Most times outsourcing is not done for saving costs (that just the excuse). its done because the current team has become too set in its ways and pissed off one too many administrator.
Scams were not invented in India. In fact scam calling is just another form of outsourcing where US based criminals use low paid foreign workers to do the grunt work. So if no singularity happened when Americans were scamming Americans none will happen when Indians scam Indians.
India: It appears that your entire IT workforce has not paid their Indian taxes on their Apple salaries. We are attaching their Indian properties. (Cue: Entire Apple IT workforce flies to India to file legal injuction cases. Apple grinds to a halt) Apple: To whom do I make out the cheque?
First of all India's major expot is not IT services. It is people. India exports people and the people send back remittances for their families which is the largest fraction of incoming foreign exchange into India. India has a large and young population and needs mass manufacturing to move from a developing to a newly developed country like China has. The total size of the software industry is 1 million people in India. That cannot be the solution when you need to find jobs for a 100 million. Manufacturing is the only solution so it would be national suicide to allow imports of stuff that can be manufactured locally.
If I could have a middle class life with high school education and a stress free manufacturing job why would I go into professions and deal with all the mental stress of college and professional career? One cannot expect to have the same standard of life by being less smart and less hardworking. No amount of Unions will ever change that.
Its not a rare language. After Hindi, English,Bengali its the 4th most spoken language in India. Also the largest number of low cost offshore programmers are either Telugu speaking or Kannada speaking. Of course everyone speaks English as all technical education is in English in India. Point is there are ways to set up requirements for what you want. Well you don't like the language requirement. How about a requirement having experience working with teams in different time zones. Only employees and clients of offshoring companies would have the experience of a daily 9 PM phone call. You couldn't say it is extraneous to the job , in fact its critical for a successful off-shored team. You can ask for many other things. At the end of the day its a capitalist society and in a capitalist society govt. cannot tell business who to employ or who to give their business to. You want central planning with employment for all there is this nice tropical island off the coast of Florida with free medical care. I heard there are direct flights now.
Good for you. Your situation is not the typical situation. Classmate of mine is a CEO of a startup with a valuation of 10 Billion. I dont ask my manager to match my salary to match his. For the skills and experience we are hiring for there is a competitive market and the salary range I specified is the market range.
You do not argue with the officer. You take your ticket which is after all only an accusation not a conviction. You go to the traffic office and plead not guilty. Go to walk in arraignment and plead not guilty ask for a speedy trial and then send off a letter to the DA's office asking for the survey. Turn up for your trial date and the commisioner will dismiss your case. It needs you to turn up twice and spend 2 hours each time but it may be worth getting a 400 dollar ticket dismissed. I have done it myself. In fact if I was really speeding I would probably pay the ticket but what got me really irritated was I was on a highway with overpasses and the cop got me coming down a slope when the car tends to accelerate by itself and got me for 67 on grade separated 8 lane (4 each way) highway. 55 was a ridiculously low speed limit for an 8 lane road. So I fought it and won. Probably thought I was a tourist who would just pay up as it was middle of the day and not the typical rush hour. Didnt know I was just going back to office after attending a School conference meeting at my sons school. This was my locality and it was barely 5 min drive for me to go to the traffic court. I could just popin twice before work so no hassle to get it dismissed.
I just used the defense last month for a ticket of going 67 in a stretch marked 55 (ridiculously so since its a grade separated 8 lane highway). I didnt even have to speak a word. All I did was send a registered delivery proof required letter to the DA's office asking for the survey a week before trial date. On trial day the Officer turned up and told the traffic commisioner they dont have a survey and the commisioner dismissed the charge.
The whole concept of a corporation is that the Govt. is indemnifying the owners from being sued directly and only the corporation can be sued for crimes committed by the corporation. Any company complaining against govt regulation is just hypocricy as a company couldnt exist without govt regulation (unless its a sole proprietership)
Illegal immigrants are still prosecuted for breaking the law in San Francisco especially for driving without a license (This is why California grants driving licenses to illegal Immigrants. To make sure everyone driving has given a Driving license test). All a sanctuary city means is that when an illegal immigrant is released after serving their sentence the Cops dont call INS to come pick them up for deportation.
Uber is a mega con . It has always lost money and will always lose money. The only reason it is still getting funded is with a 0% rate environment pension funds are putting Mom and Pop's pension money in the hands of VCs and VCs have so much money they are desperate to fund something anything even something loss making as long as it is scalable. They do not have the mental badwidth to handle a 1000 1 million dollar investments as they are trying to deploy billions in pension money. As long as its a scalable enterprise they can justify a 100 million investment. In the valley right now you dont need to make money you just need to show your idea is scalable and you will get funded. Its 2000 all over again and they are playing with cheap pension money and when the Pensions go bankrupt the govt meaning you and me Joe taxpayer will have to pick up the bill through the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation. So doesnt matter whether you use Uber or not your dollars are going to pay for it either through your pension money or through your taxes.
Can you tell me what is the functional difference between someone picking tomatoes in California with a work permit and visa and without one? Exactly what change has occurred in the process, besides Government suddenly being involved. Is the state going to take any responsibilities for tomatoes picked by legal labor any differently than if they didn't have a permit?
My guess is that there is no functional difference, in which case, we have regulation just for the sake of regulation.
Actually in California all Speed Limits are suggestions rather than rules. The actual law states drive at a reasonable speed which is defined as 85 percentile of all the cars on the road. Also there needs to have been a survey of the highway/freeway during the past 5 years for the 85 percentile value to be valid. So if you ever get a speeding ticket in California just plead not guilty go to trial and ask to see the survey. 9 cases out of 10 the case will be dismissed. People just dont bother exercising their right to a fair trial when it comes to traffic offenses.
Its very difficult to analyze an individual and come up with any actionable data. It is much easier to analyze a bunch of individuals. Cops have known this forever. They can always predict what a mob will do but an individual is more difficult.
Nobody is 100% free. We live in society and agree to society's rules. E.g I am not free to murder you. The cops are not free to ignore it if I do. You are not free to not pay taxes which pay for the cops. It all goes together. Believe me you do not want total freedom. Where each society determines its limits on freedom to be should be left to each society and we should not try to impose our society's value system on another.
Life is constant learning. Nowhere more so in Software. Of course the challenge is that the Software field is very fad driven and moves in cycles instead of in a straight line. Mainframe (centralized CPU) ->PC (decentralized)->Web (Centralized) -> Apps (decentralized). A fresh kid coming out of college knows the latest fad so the old fogies have to also know the latest fad as well as provide other value ad to justify their much higher salaries.
You are comparing Apples and Oranges. I have no problem with people for whom money is not motivator number 1 but I need it to be on the list. Doing meaningfull work maybe great but my line of business (IT software development) most work is meaningless and will be replaced in 2 years. At the same time it is hard work. So I need to be able to use money as a motivator.
India has no power. If India had power their best and brightest would be staying at home to develop India instead of doing mind numbing IT work in USA for which they are overqualified
Oh Indians have always been racist. There have always been 3 races in India- Aryan, Dravidian and Mongoloid. But the races have learnt how to live with each other. So Indians will discriminate against other Indians based on skin color or flatness of nose but they do not have the hatred of White supremacists who want to have a one race nation. They do not want to wipe other races out. Indians know a one race nation is not possible. So they are well equipped to deal with a multiracial culture as they come from one themselves. In fact they may be better equipped to live in USA than the original settlers who did not come from multi-racial nations.
I am a hiring manager in the valley and hire both citizens and H1Bs regularly. We are a consulting firm and always prefer Citizens as they can join at 2 weeks notice while H1Bs will take 6 weeks to process an H1 transfer with the additional 6000 dollar cost of an H1 transfer. In the people I have hired in the last 3 months we have paid from 90-125K. Noone gets paid 60K. I still end up hiring a lot of H1Bs. Its a demand and supply issue. So I am speaking from experience . Where are you pulling your facts from?
The thing is why is a 40 year old doing work that can be done by a 20 year old. That guy is no better than the one trying to raise a family on a McD job. With 20 years of experience you should be doing work that a 20 yr old cant do.
If you have 3 very experienced people maintaining an entire system and one of them falls sick, goes to a different company or goes on leave you are severely affected. However if you have 10 mediocre people doing it at lower salaries than the 3 than 1 falling sick or resigning does not affect you that bad. You probably have that much redundancy built in. Its like how earlier we used to build Supercomputers using highly specialized chips and they used to cost a lot. Now we build them by putting Intel chips in the 1000s. The key is to figure out a system where the work can be scaled and the IT Outsourcing companies have figured out the scaling problem. That is there USP
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Most times outsourcing is not done for saving costs (that just the excuse). its done because the current team has become too set in its ways and pissed off one too many administrator.
Scams were not invented in India. In fact scam calling is just another form of outsourcing where US based criminals use low paid foreign workers to do the grunt work. So if no singularity happened when Americans were scamming Americans none will happen when Indians scam Indians.
India: It appears that your entire IT workforce has not paid their Indian taxes on their Apple salaries. We are attaching their Indian properties. (Cue: Entire Apple IT workforce flies to India to file legal injuction cases. Apple grinds to a halt)
Apple: To whom do I make out the cheque?
First of all India's major expot is not IT services. It is people. India exports people and the people send back remittances for their families which is the largest fraction of incoming foreign exchange into India.
India has a large and young population and needs mass manufacturing to move from a developing to a newly developed country like China has. The total size of the software industry is 1 million people in India. That cannot be the solution when you need to find jobs for a 100 million. Manufacturing is the only solution so it would be national suicide to allow imports of stuff that can be manufactured locally.
If I could have a middle class life with high school education and a stress free manufacturing job why would I go into professions and deal with all the mental stress of college and professional career? One cannot expect to have the same standard of life by being less smart and less hardworking. No amount of Unions will ever change that.
Its not a rare language. After Hindi, English,Bengali its the 4th most spoken language in India. Also the largest number of low cost offshore programmers are either Telugu speaking or Kannada speaking. Of course everyone speaks English as all technical education is in English in India. Point is there are ways to set up requirements for what you want. Well you don't like the language requirement. How about a requirement having experience working with teams in different time zones. Only employees and clients of offshoring companies would have the experience of a daily 9 PM phone call. You couldn't say it is extraneous to the job , in fact its critical for a successful off-shored team. You can ask for many other things. At the end of the day its a capitalist society and in a capitalist society govt. cannot tell business who to employ or who to give their business to. You want central planning with employment for all there is this nice tropical island off the coast of Florida with free medical care. I heard there are direct flights now.
Good for you. Your situation is not the typical situation.
Classmate of mine is a CEO of a startup with a valuation of 10 Billion. I dont ask my manager to match my salary to match his.
For the skills and experience we are hiring for there is a competitive market and the salary range I specified is the market range.
You do not argue with the officer. You take your ticket which is after all only an accusation not a conviction. You go to the traffic office and plead not guilty. Go to walk in arraignment and plead not guilty ask for a speedy trial and then send off a letter to the DA's office asking for the survey. Turn up for your trial date and the commisioner will dismiss your case. It needs you to turn up twice and spend 2 hours each time but it may be worth getting a 400 dollar ticket dismissed. I have done it myself. In fact if I was really speeding I would probably pay the ticket but what got me really irritated was I was on a highway with overpasses and the cop got me coming down a slope when the car tends to accelerate by itself and got me for 67 on grade separated 8 lane (4 each way) highway. 55 was a ridiculously low speed limit for an 8 lane road. So I fought it and won. Probably thought I was a tourist who would just pay up as it was middle of the day and not the typical rush hour. Didnt know I was just going back to office after attending a School conference meeting at my sons school. This was my locality and it was barely 5 min drive for me to go to the traffic court. I could just popin twice before work so no hassle to get it dismissed.
I just used the defense last month for a ticket of going 67 in a stretch marked 55 (ridiculously so since its a grade separated 8 lane highway). I didnt even have to speak a word. All I did was send a registered delivery proof required letter to the DA's office asking for the survey a week before trial date. On trial day the Officer turned up and told the traffic commisioner they dont have a survey and the commisioner dismissed the charge.
They cant hand him over to the feds. Doesn't mean he cannot be prosecuted for the crime and be sent to jail
The whole concept of a corporation is that the Govt. is indemnifying the owners from being sued directly and only the corporation can be sued for crimes committed by the corporation. Any company complaining against govt regulation is just hypocricy as a company couldnt exist without govt regulation (unless its a sole proprietership)
Illegal immigrants are still prosecuted for breaking the law in San Francisco especially for driving without a license (This is why California grants driving licenses to illegal Immigrants. To make sure everyone driving has given a Driving license test). All a sanctuary city means is that when an illegal immigrant is released after serving their sentence the Cops dont call INS to come pick them up for deportation.
Uber is a mega con . It has always lost money and will always lose money. The only reason it is still getting funded is with a 0% rate environment pension funds are putting Mom and Pop's pension money in the hands of VCs and VCs have so much money they are desperate to fund something anything even something loss making as long as it is scalable. They do not have the mental badwidth to handle a 1000 1 million dollar investments as they are trying to deploy billions in pension money. As long as its a scalable enterprise they can justify a 100 million investment. In the valley right now you dont need to make money you just need to show your idea is scalable and you will get funded. Its 2000 all over again and they are playing with cheap pension money and when the Pensions go bankrupt the govt meaning you and me Joe taxpayer will have to pick up the bill through the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation. So doesnt matter whether you use Uber or not your dollars are going to pay for it either through your pension money or through your taxes.
Can you tell me what is the functional difference between someone picking tomatoes in California with a work permit and visa and without one? Exactly what change has occurred in the process, besides Government suddenly being involved. Is the state going to take any responsibilities for tomatoes picked by legal labor any differently than if they didn't have a permit?
My guess is that there is no functional difference, in which case, we have regulation just for the sake of regulation.
Actually in California all Speed Limits are suggestions rather than rules. The actual law states drive at a reasonable speed which is defined as 85 percentile of all the cars on the road. Also there needs to have been a survey of the highway/freeway during the past 5 years for the 85 percentile value to be valid. So if you ever get a speeding ticket in California just plead not guilty go to trial and ask to see the survey. 9 cases out of 10 the case will be dismissed. People just dont bother exercising their right to a fair trial when it comes to traffic offenses.
Its very difficult to analyze an individual and come up with any actionable data. It is much easier to analyze a bunch of individuals. Cops have known this forever. They can always predict what a mob will do but an individual is more difficult.
Nobody is 100% free. We live in society and agree to society's rules. E.g I am not free to murder you. The cops are not free to ignore it if I do. You are not free to not pay taxes which pay for the cops. It all goes together. Believe me you do not want total freedom.
Where each society determines its limits on freedom to be should be left to each society and we should not try to impose our society's value system on another.
Life is constant learning. Nowhere more so in Software. Of course the challenge is that the Software field is very fad driven and moves in cycles instead of in a straight line. Mainframe (centralized CPU) ->PC (decentralized)->Web (Centralized) -> Apps (decentralized). A fresh kid coming out of college knows the latest fad so the old fogies have to also know the latest fad as well as provide other value ad to justify their much higher salaries.
You are comparing Apples and Oranges. I have no problem with people for whom money is not motivator number 1 but I need it to be on the list. Doing meaningfull work maybe great but my line of business (IT software development) most work is meaningless and will be replaced in 2 years. At the same time it is hard work. So I need to be able to use money as a motivator.
India has no power. If India had power their best and brightest would be staying at home to develop India instead of doing mind numbing IT work in USA for which they are overqualified
Apple uses over 20000 contractors from the Indian Outsourcing companies. Its the most valuable company in the world. So much for circling the drain
Oh Indians have always been racist. There have always been 3 races in India- Aryan, Dravidian and Mongoloid. But the races have learnt how to live with each other. So Indians will discriminate against other Indians based on skin color or flatness of nose but they do not have the hatred of White supremacists who want to have a one race nation. They do not want to wipe other races out. Indians know a one race nation is not possible. So they are well equipped to deal with a multiracial culture as they come from one themselves. In fact they may be better equipped to live in USA than the original settlers who did not come from multi-racial nations.
I am a hiring manager in the valley and hire both citizens and H1Bs regularly. We are a consulting firm and always prefer Citizens as they can join at 2 weeks notice while H1Bs will take 6 weeks to process an H1 transfer with the additional 6000 dollar cost of an H1 transfer. In the people I have hired in the last 3 months we have paid from 90-125K. Noone gets paid 60K. I still end up hiring a lot of H1Bs. Its a demand and supply issue.
So I am speaking from experience . Where are you pulling your facts from?
The thing is why is a 40 year old doing work that can be done by a 20 year old. That guy is no better than the one trying to raise a family on a McD job. With 20 years of experience you should be doing work that a 20 yr old cant do.
If you have 3 very experienced people maintaining an entire system and one of them falls sick, goes to a different company or goes on leave you are severely affected. However if you have 10 mediocre people doing it at lower salaries than the 3 than 1 falling sick or resigning does not affect you that bad. You probably have that much redundancy built in. Its like how earlier we used to build Supercomputers using highly specialized chips and they used to cost a lot. Now we build them by putting Intel chips in the 1000s. The key is to figure out a system where the work can be scaled and the IT Outsourcing companies have figured out the scaling problem. That is there USP