Americans dont value education enough. In India maids will skip a meal in order to buy a text book for their kids. Instead the poor in the US would much rather buy videogames than spend time studying at the library. Life is not hard enough in the USA. It needs to get harder. The period from 50s to 70s where you could lead a middle class life on working class skills is never coming back. It was an anomaly created by the WW2 where all the other countries had destroyed economies and depended on US manufacturing and US could export its way to wealth. Now all countries are recovered from WW2/colonialism. Its an equal competition and working class skills will not get you a middle class lifestyle.
In countries like India most middle class software programmers have a maid who cleans the house, makes the bed,washes dishes and clothes,a cook who comes cooks the evening meal, a driver who drives them to work, a gardener who comes and maintains their yard and a laundryman who comes picks up their laundry presses and returns it. In USA you have to do all of this yourself or go out to a central place to get food made by someone else. Personal services are only feasible when their is a large gap in income between the middle class and the working class. If you expect middle class wages for jobs like taxi driver or food delivery than these services will only be avilable to the elite and not to the middle class. Working class folks need to have an uncomfortable life . This is motivation for their children to work harder in school than their middle class counterparts and clim out of the working class. In every generation some middle class kids will screw up and fall back to the working class. Hence you will always have your supply of working class people. The fallacy is to believe just because your parents were middle class you will be middle class and not working class. If yu try to prevent downward social mobility you also block upward social mobility
H1Bs were introduced as part of WTO negotiations. When India agreed to let US sell Caterpillar backhoes and Pepsico Sugar water in India , US agreed to let India sell software services in the US and as the work permit process in the US is messed up and the L1 is very restrictive, H1s were introduced. The conflation of H1B (a free trade visa) with immigration is unfortunate and happened because of a quota which put an artificial limit on number of people coming to US to provide short term software services. Trump can put conditions which prevent Indian software companies from selling software services in US. India will probably retaliate with restrictions on US companies selling into India. If I was a Boeing, Caterpillar, GE, Coca Cola , Apple or Microsoft shareholder I would not be very happy. If I was a worker at these companies' plants I would be very worried about layoffs.
You do realize that most developing countires have higher income inequality than the US. What this means is that while beginning and average salaries are lower , salaries at the higher end are higher than in the US. Cardiac surgeons from India will not move to the US as they earn much more in India than in the US. Same for folks earning 150K plus. The kind of folks who would attract those salaries in the US are getting paid much more (PPP adjusted) in India. Only people at the beginning of their careers are willing to go to the trouble of moving to the US. All this measure would mean is that companies would do more work offshore and reduce their US presence.
Its for skills that cant be found locally. The latest cutting edge research is done in universities and as the majority of grad students are foreigners if companies want people with reseaerch experience at the cutting edge they need foreign students. Students are getting H1Bs because the US immigration system is so screwed that it has no specific visa for Students who have graduated from US universities to stay and work in US (every other country which has a large education industry has a student work visa post graduation) so they use the H1B which was meant for Models. Also mostly students are now spending 2-3 years in OPT so by the time they are on H1B they have the skills and the experience.
All this would not be needed if the Comprehensive Immigration Reform under Bush had got passed which had basically said every student graduating in STEM would have a Greencard stapled to their Diploma.
GCs are always better than H1Bs as they have the same freedom to work for anyone and do not depress the market like H1s do.
You are talking about what is fair for the child. I am talking about what is fair for the parents. 2 different aspects. You might want to be fair to all kids but the fact remains if people are not going to get a benefit from wealthy what is their motivation to work hard?
If I cannot use my wealth to give my children an advantage what is the point of the wealth? Why work hard and earn money if someone who doesnt will get the same opportunities for their kid. Ye society should try to keep the ladder open for social mobility as smart kids can be born to poor parents and we would not want to lose their potential but the kids of wealthy parents have already got a track record so their is nothing wrong in society giving an advantage to the chidren of successfull folks. If really smart poor kids will catch up in 2 or 3 generations.
Colleges began as a place for the rich to network. Trade schools were or the working class. Dont expect an Ivy to teach technical skills. They are all about the networking and hence of value to those who have enough inherited wealth to not need a backup.
Tell me again why should developing countries in the Global south complicate their industrialization so that lifestyles and ecosystems can stay the same in the rich Global North?
If you want to fight Global Warming because currently your country is on top climatically speaking but not sure what would happen in a changed world you should pay developing countries in hard cash to adopt measures which complicate their industrialization.
Just asking them to do it from the goodness of their heart is being disingeneous
Now that Chinese companies have the lead in Solar panel manufacturing it makes sense for the Chinese to support their home industry rather than building coal plants and importing turbines from GE
High risk high reward. Who would you rather be? Underpaid but safe as firing you makes the average salary go up or overpaid but have a target on your back. I prefer overpaid. I can always get a new job and as most HR managers have no idea of how to offer comp they look at last salary and base the offer off it
Visa workers are well aware that they are being exploited. They are working till they can get their GCs and then do their own share of discrimination against the next wave of immigrants. Thats the American way. America's success is built on the exploitation of successive waves of immigrants. Every immigrant gets exploited and his/her American born children grow up to exploit the next wave of immigrant.
Asians is code word for Indians. The key thing about Indians is the Indians coming to the US are coming from the top levels of Indian society. They are not used to being the underdog. Rather they are used to being the boss so they rise fast in a meritocracy as they do not have any hangups like US born minorities holding them back. Indians are also pretty racist. India itself has multiple ethnic groups and people favour their own ethnic group. When Indians get into hiring manager positions they hire Indians only as far as possible that too from their own ethnic group. They will hire a white if they cant get a sutable Indian. They will hardly ever hire a black or latino due to the Indian fetish for fair skin they thinks whites are smarter. However Indians dont discriminate between men and women when hiring. If Oracle is having mostly Asian aka Indian hires it means that Indians have reached middle management in Oracle and controlling the hiring. At the same time the old school whites still left are probably the critical folks or those who know where the skeletons are buried so they are paid far higher than the norm (In fact this whole case is probably because one of these folks felt they were not getting enough to keep shut about the skeletons)
IT jobs are not that complicated. With a college full of grad students there is really no need for a an IT dept. Grad students will do it for a pittance.
So you want public money to be used to overpay govt employees instead of getting the best value for the money by using the lower cost private sector provider. No wonder taxes are so high in California.
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Americans dont value education enough. In India maids will skip a meal in order to buy a text book for their kids. Instead the poor in the US would much rather buy videogames than spend time studying at the library. Life is not hard enough in the USA. It needs to get harder. The period from 50s to 70s where you could lead a middle class life on working class skills is never coming back. It was an anomaly created by the WW2 where all the other countries had destroyed economies and depended on US manufacturing and US could export its way to wealth. Now all countries are recovered from WW2/colonialism. Its an equal competition and working class skills will not get you a middle class lifestyle.
In countries like India most middle class software programmers have a maid who cleans the house, makes the bed,washes dishes and clothes,a cook who comes cooks the evening meal, a driver who drives them to work, a gardener who comes and maintains their yard and a laundryman who comes picks up their laundry presses and returns it.
In USA you have to do all of this yourself or go out to a central place to get food made by someone else.
Personal services are only feasible when their is a large gap in income between the middle class and the working class.
If you expect middle class wages for jobs like taxi driver or food delivery than these services will only be avilable to the elite and not to the middle class.
Working class folks need to have an uncomfortable life . This is motivation for their children to work harder in school than their middle class counterparts and clim out of the working class.
In every generation some middle class kids will screw up and fall back to the working class. Hence you will always have your supply of working class people. The fallacy is to believe just because your parents were middle class you will be middle class and not working class. If yu try to prevent downward social mobility you also block upward social mobility
Since the only jobs left for the 99% is to be sex toys and body servants for the 1%, clothes are kind of redundant
H1Bs were introduced as part of WTO negotiations. When India agreed to let US sell Caterpillar backhoes and Pepsico Sugar water in India , US agreed to let India sell software services in the US and as the work permit process in the US is messed up and the L1 is very restrictive, H1s were introduced. The conflation of H1B (a free trade visa) with immigration is unfortunate and happened because of a quota which put an artificial limit on number of people coming to US to provide short term software services. Trump can put conditions which prevent Indian software companies from selling software services in US. India will probably retaliate with restrictions on US companies selling into India. If I was a Boeing, Caterpillar, GE, Coca Cola , Apple or Microsoft shareholder I would not be very happy. If I was a worker at these companies' plants I would be very worried about layoffs.
You do realize that most developing countires have higher income inequality than the US. What this means is that while beginning and average salaries are lower , salaries at the higher end are higher than in the US. Cardiac surgeons from India will not move to the US as they earn much more in India than in the US. Same for folks earning 150K plus. The kind of folks who would attract those salaries in the US are getting paid much more (PPP adjusted) in India. Only people at the beginning of their careers are willing to go to the trouble of moving to the US. All this measure would mean is that companies would do more work offshore and reduce their US presence.
Most of any country is a shithole. Have you tried living in the Midwest or the deep south? Mumbai is much better than Omaha.
Its for skills that cant be found locally. The latest cutting edge research is done in universities and as the majority of grad students are foreigners if companies want people with reseaerch experience at the cutting edge they need foreign students. Students are getting H1Bs because the US immigration system is so screwed that it has no specific visa for Students who have graduated from US universities to stay and work in US (every other country which has a large education industry has a student work visa post graduation) so they use the H1B which was meant for Models.
Also mostly students are now spending 2-3 years in OPT so by the time they are on H1B they have the skills and the experience.
All this would not be needed if the Comprehensive Immigration Reform under Bush had got passed which had basically said every student graduating in STEM would have a Greencard stapled to their Diploma.
GCs are always better than H1Bs as they have the same freedom to work for anyone and do not depress the market like H1s do.
You are talking about what is fair for the child. I am talking about what is fair for the parents. 2 different aspects. You might want to be fair to all kids but the fact remains if people are not going to get a benefit from wealthy what is their motivation to work hard?
Now watch the the EB Green Card cap being abolished. If all the H1Bs get Greencards salaries will go up as they will start jumping around.
lol +1
So does being Jewish give you a pass for being an A*hole? Finally I understand Israeli behaviour.
Newsflash July is winter in Antarctica
If I cannot use my wealth to give my children an advantage what is the point of the wealth? Why work hard and earn money if someone who doesnt will get the same opportunities for their kid.
Ye society should try to keep the ladder open for social mobility as smart kids can be born to poor parents and we would not want to lose their potential but the kids of wealthy parents have already got a track record so their is nothing wrong in society giving an advantage to the chidren of successfull folks. If really smart poor kids will catch up in 2 or 3 generations.
Colleges began as a place for the rich to network. Trade schools were or the working class. Dont expect an Ivy to teach technical skills. They are all about the networking and hence of value to those who have enough inherited wealth to not need a backup.
Tell me again why should developing countries in the Global south complicate their industrialization so that lifestyles and ecosystems can stay the same in the rich Global North?
If you want to fight Global Warming because currently your country is on top climatically speaking but not sure what would happen in a changed world you should pay developing countries in hard cash to adopt measures which complicate their industrialization.
Just asking them to do it from the goodness of their heart is being disingeneous
Now that Chinese companies have the lead in Solar panel manufacturing it makes sense for the Chinese to support their home industry rather than building coal plants and importing turbines from GE
The hottest year statistics are based off mostly warmer winters than hotter summers. Global Warming== a More pleasant Climate
Most H1Bs in the valley are paid 90-120K. 100K will not be an adequate wall. Companies will raise their salaries by 10%.
High risk high reward. Who would you rather be? Underpaid but safe as firing you makes the average salary go up or overpaid but have a target on your back. I prefer overpaid. I can always get a new job and as most HR managers have no idea of how to offer comp they look at last salary and base the offer off it
Visa workers are well aware that they are being exploited. They are working till they can get their GCs and then do their own share of discrimination against the next wave of immigrants. Thats the American way. America's success is built on the exploitation of successive waves of immigrants. Every immigrant gets exploited and his/her American born children grow up to exploit the next wave of immigrant.
read the article... idiot!
I did . It doesnt say anything clear. Also using a swear word does not make your point any more valid
Asians is code word for Indians. The key thing about Indians is the Indians coming to the US are coming from the top levels of Indian society. They are not used to being the underdog. Rather they are used to being the boss so they rise fast in a meritocracy as they do not have any hangups like US born minorities holding them back. Indians are also pretty racist. India itself has multiple ethnic groups and people favour their own ethnic group. When Indians get into hiring manager positions they hire Indians only as far as possible that too from their own ethnic group. They will hire a white if they cant get a sutable Indian. They will hardly ever hire a black or latino due to the Indian fetish for fair skin they thinks whites are smarter. However Indians dont discriminate between men and women when hiring. If Oracle is having mostly Asian aka Indian hires it means that Indians have reached middle management in Oracle and controlling the hiring. At the same time the old school whites still left are probably the critical folks or those who know where the skeletons are buried so they are paid far higher than the norm (In fact this whole case is probably because one of these folks felt they were not getting enough to keep shut about the skeletons)
Make up your mind. Which is it? They are paying more to white males or discriminating against white males by preferring Asian workers?
IT jobs are not that complicated. With a college full of grad students there is really no need for a an IT dept. Grad students will do it for a pittance.
So you want public money to be used to overpay govt employees instead of getting the best value for the money by using the lower cost private sector provider. No wonder taxes are so high in California.