The point is that MGM pays so little to these folks (less than minimum wage as they get tips) that the robots will cost more in maintenance than what MGM pays in wages for these folks today so this is a financially bad decision.
We have had this debate once before. The Southern states wanted apportionment according to their population including slaves. The northern states wanted apportionment according to voters. They reached a compromise 3/5th. Lets do the same. All Robots will be assumed to have at least the minimum wage and 3/5th of that will be taxed at personal tax rates on the owner of the company. Wages not profits. Its easy to show zero or negative profits but no of robots * min wage *2000 hours *.6. Thats an easy formula and tax at personal income tax rates. If someone says robots dont take as many resources as people say thats why its taxed at 3/5ths.
The casino industry works on tips. No one is going to tip a robot waitress or robot dealer. Their non tip wages are probably the same as the maintenance cost of the robots.
That maybe for NASA missions as NASA is hyperconservative and does not want to reuse. However for commercial space tourism I will bet they will reuse the same capsules. In contrast the 60s capsules were allowed to sink to the bottom of the ocean if not needed for inspection.
The 60s capsules were throw away. the Dragon is reusable. This makes it affordable to build much nicer seats, controls and creature comforts into the capsule. Its the difference between a WW2 Glider and a private Citation 6 seater plane.
No Developed nation would be able to grow its own food without centrally planned subsidies. Farming is simply not that high value , the land and people can be used for something more economically viable . Food would all be imported from the third world if we didn't have central ministries of agriculture centrally planning we nned to have this much corn production capability in case of war hence we need this much subsidy.
So now instead of merely sharing my data, I am going to have to allow Google to run code on my devices. Somehow I feel giving execution privileges is a bigger hole than data privileges. Next they will ask for your bank details so they can keep you safe from being hacked....
You are saying because the Tesla did not perform upto spec the Kona wont? BTW the Kona has a battery heater so its performance doesnt fall that drastically in cold weather.
Over the last 30 years as the earth has got warmer rain has increased in the Sahara and famines in Africa have gone down. The higher levels of Co2 in the atmosphere has meant the rainforests in both Indonesia and the Amazon have got greener with more dense foliage. The only downside I see is hurricanes are getting stronger and California is going into a long term drought. Also if the Gulf stream shuts down UK will be a frozen wasteland. But if you dont live in Florida, California, UK or some minor islands , Global Warming is a net benefit. Why are we trying to stop it?
Your comment isnt very clear. Are you saying that the range of the Kona sold in Europe is 121 KM or around 80 mile? Thats not the official mileage on any review.
It has higher range than SR and SR+ while being 2000 and 4000 dollar cheaper. It has the same range as MR while being 10000 dollar cheaper. Only the LR has higher range which is 13000 dollar more expensive. For 13000 less I am willing to take a 260 Mile Range instead of a 310 mile range. Very few times will I drive more than 260 but less than 310 without a break.
Obviously I have not sat in one as its not available to general public yet but all reviewers have given it much better reviews than Model 3 as far as internal space is concerned. The SUV movement in the US is more about a high driving position with better visibility than any real Sport or Utility. Noone takes their SUVs offroading. THey take them to the Safeway and want to have a high driving position so that if they have an accident they are not in a sedan where the SUVs bumper might come into your windshield
Yes Hyundai earns very little from their EVs as they are selling a 50000 dollar car for 37000. They can afford to do it as their gas cars are subsidizing the EV. I have no problem other drivers subsidizing my car. Tesla unfortunately for them has to make money on each car but thats not my problem.
Yes it is a rich person tax break but then so does anything to do with the Green Movement - whether it is the National Park system which only the upper middle class can afford to go enjoy, the solar panel subsidies which only upper middleclass homeowners can afford or embassies all around the world to help stranded travellers (again dont think too many people working minimum wage jobs are travelling internationally) A govts primary job is to protect the rich from the poor and shift as much money as possible from the working class to the owner class. Why single out the EV tax breaks. Just try and break into the owner class so that govt starts working for you and not against you.
It has level 3 charge which mean 80% and 200 miles in 34 minutes. Overnight is level 2 if you dont have access to a fast charger.
It has heated and cooled seats. A heads up display. Actual dials . I drove a friends Model 3 and it is very disconcerting to have to look to your right as there are no dials where we have grown up expecting them to be.
Rear visibility. The Model 3 is really difficult to get a clear rear view even if you turn around due to the sloping roof. Ye it does have a camera but I grew up driving cars without a rear camera and still find the reduced rear visibility disconcerting
Also the mPGe is higher which means Hyundais electric drivetrain is more efficient than Teslas and can get more range out of the same battery pack
It has 260 miles and access to CCS and ChargeAmerica so it is pretty much a better long range car than a Tesla MR for 10000 dollars less.
And if you are doing a long 400 mile drive would you rather do it in a cramped sedan or a SUV with more legspace.
The Model 3 is OK for short distances but for long distance drives it will give you blood clots.
The Hyundai Kona Electric is now available to order with deliveries on Mar 15. Its 37000 or 27000 after tax breaks in California. 260 Mi range and an SUV rather than a Sedan. The only problem is its so much in demand even though the MSRP is 37000 dealers are charging 41000 as its a better car than the 42000$ Model 3. Now that the 35000$ Tesla has got released maybe the price premium on the Kona Electric will go down Thanks Elon. I was in 2 minds about the Kona Electric purchase. Your timely move will let me get it for $27K. (Note its still cheaper than the base model Model 3 as Hyundai gets the entire 10K tax break)
What I am arguing is that dropping th bombs was not necessary to end WW2 so the excuse that thy saved lives is false. The bombs were dropped as a demonstration to the USSR. At the end of WW2 USSR had a fully mobilized and larger army. If they had decided to keep going they could easily have taken most of IndoChina, middle East, heck even Western Europe. The Allied forces in France were a fraction of the Soviet forces in Germany. The bomb was a shot over the bow of the Soviets to keep to the agreed Yalta conference spheres of influence. Didnt work long term though. Within 5 years the Soviets built their own bombs and within 10 years were ahead having developed fusion bombs. Short term though South Korea, Unified Japan, Taiwan owe their existence to the atomic bombing as it did give a pause to the Soviets.
The war was pretty much won by the time the bombs were dropped. The US had an agreement with the USSR that 1 month after Germany surenders USSR will declare war on Japan. As soon that happened and the Japanese were fighting a 2 front war they would have surrendered but that would have menat sharing Japan with USSR so Truman dropped the bomb one day before USSR declared war. The Japanese still did not surrender but in the meantime in just 3 days the Soviet armies rolled over Manchuria. So Truman dropped the second bomb adn the Japanese surrendered but one could argue the surrender was because of the pasting the Japanese Army was getting from the Soviets in Manchuria rather than the bomb. And they made sure to surrender to the Americans and not the Russians as the Americans are foreigners in Asia and always will be dependent on the host countries but the Russians are an Asian power and would have just absorbed them like they absorbed Eastern Europe.
Yeah if all of society is gene edited except for one backward group and then that backward group gets a mad scientist to create a lethal virus which affects the gene edited, all we will be left with is a backward group who wont be able to maintain modern civilization and then we are back to the stone age. Genetic diversity has its uses
Thats a distinction without a difference. Neither US is a capitalist country nor is China a Communist country. Both of them are Crony Capitalist or Fascist (Like Mussolinis Italy). Fascism without the racism comes down to state directed capitalism where the State instead of being a regulator (as in Capitalism) or owner (as in Communism) is a promoter of industry. State directed capitalism. Mostly directed through export licenses, tax incentives, tariffs, exemptions to worker laws. Nothing wrong with fascism (as long as you can keep the racism out of it) as it can lead to rapid progress like in Italy and Germany prior to WW2 (and prior to Hitler wasting resources on killing Jews) but please lets stop pretending that the US and Chinese systems are really different.
If you think US Industry and US Government are not connected when the corporations basically buy the elections for their favorit politicians than I have a bridge to sell you. US National Security is defined as whatever is good for US business. Huawei was alright till it was making copies of Western Tech. Now that they have actually overtaken and hold most of the 5G patents they are bad for US business and hence bad for US National Security. Whether the companies are state owned or the state is company owned in neither China or the US system do you have independent govt and industry.
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The point is that MGM pays so little to these folks (less than minimum wage as they get tips) that the robots will cost more in maintenance than what MGM pays in wages for these folks today so this is a financially bad decision.
A simple question which you have already answered partially.
How many were reused?
If the answer is 1 , they are not really reusable are they?
We have had this debate once before. The Southern states wanted apportionment according to their population including slaves. The northern states wanted apportionment according to voters. They reached a compromise 3/5th. Lets do the same. All Robots will be assumed to have at least the minimum wage and 3/5th of that will be taxed at personal tax rates on the owner of the company. Wages not profits. Its easy to show zero or negative profits but no of robots * min wage *2000 hours *.6. Thats an easy formula and tax at personal income tax rates. If someone says robots dont take as many resources as people say thats why its taxed at 3/5ths.
The casino industry works on tips. No one is going to tip a robot waitress or robot dealer. Their non tip wages are probably the same as the maintenance cost of the robots.
Not everyone is a coder but even non coders know letting a program run on your machine is a lot more dangerous than sharing data.
That maybe for NASA missions as NASA is hyperconservative and does not want to reuse. However for commercial space tourism I will bet they will reuse the same capsules. In contrast the 60s capsules were allowed to sink to the bottom of the ocean if not needed for inspection.
The 60s capsules were throw away. the Dragon is reusable. This makes it affordable to build much nicer seats, controls and creature comforts into the capsule. Its the difference between a WW2 Glider and a private Citation 6 seater plane.
No Developed nation would be able to grow its own food without centrally planned subsidies. Farming is simply not that high value , the land and people can be used for something more economically viable . Food would all be imported from the third world if we didn't have central ministries of agriculture centrally planning we nned to have this much corn production capability in case of war hence we need this much subsidy.
So now instead of merely sharing my data, I am going to have to allow Google to run code on my devices. Somehow I feel giving execution privileges is a bigger hole than data privileges. Next they will ask for your bank details so they can keep you safe from being hacked....
It seems they are interested in reducing collisions not in increasing revenue.
You are saying because the Tesla did not perform upto spec the Kona wont? BTW the Kona has a battery heater so its performance doesnt fall that drastically in cold weather.
Over the last 30 years as the earth has got warmer rain has increased in the Sahara and famines in Africa have gone down. The higher levels of Co2 in the atmosphere has meant the rainforests in both Indonesia and the Amazon have got greener with more dense foliage.
The only downside I see is hurricanes are getting stronger and California is going into a long term drought. Also if the Gulf stream shuts down UK will be a frozen wasteland.
But if you dont live in Florida, California, UK or some minor islands , Global Warming is a net benefit.
Why are we trying to stop it?
Your comment isnt very clear. Are you saying that the range of the Kona sold in Europe is 121 KM or around 80 mile? Thats not the official mileage on any review.
It has higher range than SR and SR+ while being 2000 and 4000 dollar cheaper. It has the same range as MR while being 10000 dollar cheaper. Only the LR has higher range which is 13000 dollar more expensive. For 13000 less I am willing to take a 260 Mile Range instead of a 310 mile range. Very few times will I drive more than 260 but less than 310 without a break.
Its not the entry fees. Its the fact people cant afford to miss the days of no wages to get to the park.
Obviously I have not sat in one as its not available to general public yet but all reviewers have given it much better reviews than Model 3 as far as internal space is concerned.
The SUV movement in the US is more about a high driving position with better visibility than any real Sport or Utility. Noone takes their SUVs offroading. THey take them to the Safeway and want to have a high driving position so that if they have an accident they are not in a sedan where the SUVs bumper might come into your windshield
Yes Hyundai earns very little from their EVs as they are selling a 50000 dollar car for 37000. They can afford to do it as their gas cars are subsidizing the EV. I have no problem other drivers subsidizing my car.
Tesla unfortunately for them has to make money on each car but thats not my problem.
Yes it is a rich person tax break but then so does anything to do with the Green Movement - whether it is the National Park system which only the upper middle class can afford to go enjoy, the solar panel subsidies which only upper middleclass homeowners can afford or embassies all around the world to help stranded travellers (again dont think too many people working minimum wage jobs are travelling internationally)
A govts primary job is to protect the rich from the poor and shift as much money as possible from the working class to the owner class.
Why single out the EV tax breaks.
Just try and break into the owner class so that govt starts working for you and not against you.
It has level 3 charge which mean 80% and 200 miles in 34 minutes. Overnight is level 2 if you dont have access to a fast charger.
It has heated and cooled seats. A heads up display. Actual dials . I drove a friends Model 3 and it is very disconcerting to have to look to your right as there are no dials where we have grown up expecting them to be.
Rear visibility. The Model 3 is really difficult to get a clear rear view even if you turn around due to the sloping roof. Ye it does have a camera but I grew up driving cars without a rear camera and still find the reduced rear visibility disconcerting
Also the mPGe is higher which means Hyundais electric drivetrain is more efficient than Teslas and can get more range out of the same battery pack
It has 260 miles and access to CCS and ChargeAmerica so it is pretty much a better long range car than a Tesla MR for 10000 dollars less.
And if you are doing a long 400 mile drive would you rather do it in a cramped sedan or a SUV with more legspace.
The Model 3 is OK for short distances but for long distance drives it will give you blood clots.
The Hyundai Kona Electric is now available to order with deliveries on Mar 15. Its 37000 or 27000 after tax breaks in California. 260 Mi range and an SUV rather than a Sedan.
The only problem is its so much in demand even though the MSRP is 37000 dealers are charging 41000 as its a better car than the 42000$ Model 3.
Now that the 35000$ Tesla has got released maybe the price premium on the Kona Electric will go down
Thanks Elon. I was in 2 minds about the Kona Electric purchase. Your timely move will let me get it for $27K. (Note its still cheaper than the base model Model 3 as Hyundai gets the entire 10K tax break)
What I am arguing is that dropping th bombs was not necessary to end WW2 so the excuse that thy saved lives is false. The bombs were dropped as a demonstration to the USSR. At the end of WW2 USSR had a fully mobilized and larger army. If they had decided to keep going they could easily have taken most of IndoChina, middle East, heck even Western Europe. The Allied forces in France were a fraction of the Soviet forces in Germany. The bomb was a shot over the bow of the Soviets to keep to the agreed Yalta conference spheres of influence.
Didnt work long term though. Within 5 years the Soviets built their own bombs and within 10 years were ahead having developed fusion bombs.
Short term though South Korea, Unified Japan, Taiwan owe their existence to the atomic bombing as it did give a pause to the Soviets.
The war was pretty much won by the time the bombs were dropped. The US had an agreement with the USSR that 1 month after Germany surenders USSR will declare war on Japan. As soon that happened and the Japanese were fighting a 2 front war they would have surrendered but that would have menat sharing Japan with USSR so Truman dropped the bomb one day before USSR declared war. The Japanese still did not surrender but in the meantime in just 3 days the Soviet armies rolled over Manchuria. So Truman dropped the second bomb adn the Japanese surrendered but one could argue the surrender was because of the pasting the Japanese Army was getting from the Soviets in Manchuria rather than the bomb. And they made sure to surrender to the Americans and not the Russians as the Americans are foreigners in Asia and always will be dependent on the host countries but the Russians are an Asian power and would have just absorbed them like they absorbed Eastern Europe.
Yeah if all of society is gene edited except for one backward group and then that backward group gets a mad scientist to create a lethal virus which affects the gene edited, all we will be left with is a backward group who wont be able to maintain modern civilization and then we are back to the stone age.
Genetic diversity has its uses
Thats a distinction without a difference. Neither US is a capitalist country nor is China a Communist country. Both of them are Crony Capitalist or Fascist (Like Mussolinis Italy).
Fascism without the racism comes down to state directed capitalism where the State instead of being a regulator (as in Capitalism) or owner (as in Communism) is a promoter of industry. State directed capitalism. Mostly directed through export licenses, tax incentives, tariffs, exemptions to worker laws.
Nothing wrong with fascism (as long as you can keep the racism out of it) as it can lead to rapid progress like in Italy and Germany prior to WW2 (and prior to Hitler wasting resources on killing Jews) but please lets stop pretending that the US and Chinese systems are really different.
They already paid the Clintons. They dont want to pay again
If you think US Industry and US Government are not connected when the corporations basically buy the elections for their favorit politicians than I have a bridge to sell you. US National Security is defined as whatever is good for US business. Huawei was alright till it was making copies of Western Tech. Now that they have actually overtaken and hold most of the 5G patents they are bad for US business and hence bad for US National Security.
Whether the companies are state owned or the state is company owned in neither China or the US system do you have independent govt and industry.