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Microsoft Workers' Letter Demands Company Drop $479 Million HoloLens Military Contract (theverge.com)
A group of Microsoft workers have addressed top executives in a letter demanding the company drop a controversial contract with the U.S. army. The Verge reports: The workers object to the company taking a $479 million contract last year to supply tech for the military's Integrated Visual Augmentation System, or IVAS. Under the project, Microsoft, the maker of the HoloLens augmented reality headset, could eventually provide more than 100,000 headsets designed for combat and training in the military. The Army has described the project as a way to "increase lethality by enhancing the ability to detect, decide and engage before the enemy." "We are alarmed that Microsoft is working to provide weapons technology to the US Military, helping one country's government 'increase lethality' using tools we built," the workers write in the letter, addressed to CEO Satya Nadella and president Brad Smith. "We did not sign up to develop weapons, and we demand a say in how our work is used."
The letter, which organizers say included dozens of employee signatures at publication time, argues Microsoft has "crossed the line into weapons development" with the contract. "Intent to harm is not an acceptable use of our technology," it reads. The workers are demanding the company cancel the contract, stop developing any weapons technology, create a public policy committing to not build weapons technology, and appoint an external ethics review board to enforce the policy. While the letter notes the company has an AI ethics review process called Aether, the workers say it is "not robust enough to prevent weapons development, as the IVAS contract demonstrates." "As employees and shareholders we do not want to become war profiteers," the letter sent today concludes. "To that end, we believe that Microsoft must stop in its activities to empower the U.S. Army's ability to cause harm and violence."
The letter, which organizers say included dozens of employee signatures at publication time, argues Microsoft has "crossed the line into weapons development" with the contract. "Intent to harm is not an acceptable use of our technology," it reads. The workers are demanding the company cancel the contract, stop developing any weapons technology, create a public policy committing to not build weapons technology, and appoint an external ethics review board to enforce the policy. While the letter notes the company has an AI ethics review process called Aether, the workers say it is "not robust enough to prevent weapons development, as the IVAS contract demonstrates." "As employees and shareholders we do not want to become war profiteers," the letter sent today concludes. "To that end, we believe that Microsoft must stop in its activities to empower the U.S. Army's ability to cause harm and violence."
Really? They employ how many thousands but only dozens signed it? They should fire every employee on that signed it.
It's hypocritical to take a half stance. Certainly many computers used in every US war are running Microsoft basic products like OSs and data bases. It's evident software is becoming a weapon. What do they suggest? leave the development to Russia and China? Humanity is far from leaving in peace, in the meantime you better keep up.
Won't someone think of the Minecraft players?
I'm kind of surprised these demands do not result in the immediate termination of employment. Or is WA not a state where that can happen?.
This kind of thing is getting a little ridiculous.
The pencils that sit on the desk at some military office somewhere are also involved with the end result. Should people object to making pencils that are bought by the military?
If these people have a problem with what the military does (and I'm not necessarily saying they shouldn't), perhaps they should get involved with politics instead. That's the right way to solve the problem, rather than hiding behind a letter and thinking that absolves them of something.
What do you mean becoming? Windows has been used in command & control and weapons applications for almost two decades.. I'd be happy if Microsoft stepped aside and let UNIX/linux become the primary platforms in DoD. At least something that made sense would be in use... well besides systemd.
I demand that Boeing stop making B-17s... oh wait. I mean, B-52s
Yeah, good luck Microsoft employees. Microsoft never claimed you were going there to change the world or "do good". Google invited its own problems by claiming to do such, and caused itself to hire people who would eventually debate politics at work, object to customers, and believe that business has morals above and beyond those imposed by regulations.
Microsoft employees know what they signed up for. A boring corporation that sells its product to whomever will pay. And mediocre applications that do their job just enough. It's not going to change out of its niche, and I have no expectation that it should.
Most highly intelligent people will be anti war.
And now we get to read all the comments from the sociopaths who can't comprehend how anyone could be anti war.
Weapons aren't optional. If we had none, then evil people would roll through our cities and murder us all!
Further, weapons deter violence. Nations don't launch assaults against nations they know will kick their ass.
Weapons are not inherently evil. That is entirely a matter of how they are used. If you want a say in that, get involved in politics.
Personally, I hope that the U.S. Military gets top-notch tech. I don't care whether or not it comes from Microsoft, I just want to make sure that we don't lose an edge and hence invite assaults from rogue nations.
The only thing stopping a military from waging war on the planet and eventually come around to doing so on its own citizenry is money and sophistication. The desire is and has always been there.
Those who bask in the shade of its security deserve the sunburn they will get when that shade befrays them however. Those who work for or are in any way connected to the defense sector and its massive waste of taxpayer money, deserve far far worse. Their jobs are not to police the world nor to build itself up at taxpayer expense to defend allies who would rather create treaties to have them defend them but not pay to employ them directly.
Less German bases to defend Europe from Russia when Germany pays for the Russian military by buying Russian gas. Less Fat Leonards to make corrupt and arrogant arsefaces feel important about themselves.
Profit. It's the only reason that for-profit companies exist. They make money, or they die. If a company passes up an opportunity to make money, another company will step in. That's capitalism, baby! It's got tons of advantages, but cutthroat cold-heartedness is a downside to the system, and there isn't really any way around it. The Microsoft employees signing this petition have somehow deluded themselves into thinking that they work for a non-profit. They don't, and they don't get much of a say in company policy. Their only real option is to vote with their feet. That's how our system works. A few of my friends refused jobs because they didn't want to design/research/construct weapons. They found something else that suited them better. That's how you express your displeasure with an employer. Everything else is noise.
A time when you can stand on your ethical anti-combat high horse. But please consider there was a time when this was not possible, and then thank your grandparents.
There are companies who already work for the military, usually exclusively. And people who decide to work there. There are other companies who do not work for the military, and shall not change this. It is ridiculous to see the absence of ethics when a business is concerned. But employees are not work drones, and have the right to criticize the course of the company. War has brought many problems in the world, and always there is propaganda to find an excuse for attacking, like the lie that Saddam Hussein has ABC weapons. What has happened in Ucrania? A country which has thrown nuclear bombs onto populated cities and contaminated the environment of another country with Agent Orange shall be very cautious in considering military options, and there luckily are American people who feel like global citizens and want to do something productive. At the moment we have a severe problem with climate change, which can only be resolved globally because of economic competition, and this cannot be resolved with military. So people like to work in a direction which makes more sense in the situation they and we all are now. I can understand them very well and hope that more will follow to accomplish a change in corporate policy.
I do see how this contract is different, but Microsoft's self-serving business practises have held back the progress of human civilization by two decades. I don't feel anything connected with Microsoft - certainly not their employees - have any credibility on matters relating to ethics.
Why, there are dozens of signatures on that letter of protest. Management simply can't ignore that!
No, wait, they totally CAN ignore that, and will surely do so. Because dozens, out of ~135,000.
Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
drop him into an enemy country and pretty soon
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no one can survive
Ada language for military purpose.
C language for civilian purpose.
Mismatch!!!
Where in the World Is the U.S. Military? (July/August 2015)
Quote: "... the United States still maintains nearly 800 military bases in more than 70 countries and territories abroad..."
IMHO, such employees, who keep trying to control/command their company, need to fired immediately, before such behavior gets out of control, in the whole IT industry!!!
How many of those who signed are on H-1B visas?
How many are infected by memes aimed at weakening the US military?
Where's the letter demanding they stop developing Windows 10? I can't be the only one here who finds it more offensive than sci-fi style targeting computers.
In other words, they prefer their own soldiers to die rather than the people attacking them and they prefer more civilian deaths.
If they couldn't foresee the possible uses of augmented reality tech, they have no business working on anything new as everything contributes to the military. Go back to making data entry applications. They also signed away their rights to demand how the work is used. Read your employment contract.
The delusions people have of how the world works is mind boggling. Striving for peace is good, but being unprepared for war is death. You can do both at the same time. You stop wars through politics, not tech. If they care so much, they should be political activists not complaining about how people use their code. Why don't they complain each time IE loads .mil addresses? Why didn't they work to get Windows off military systems?
Pacifism is a luxury afforded to those whose enemies live far from them
Quoth George Orwell: "Those who “abjure” violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf."
Let's make this more real. If Microsoft drops the contract, how about Microsoft takes the $479 million out of the paycheck of every employee who signed the petition?
I get tired of the tech employees who petition against government contracts. Do they not realize that their employer isn't accountable to them, but instead is accountable to increasing profits, in order to increase shareholder value? Do these employees not understand that this is real money, that funds their paychecks, bonuses, benefits, and raises?
> Most highly intelligent people will be anti war.
Yes, normal people don't want to be fighting.
And virtually all mammals know what ends a fight. You seem to be missing that particular insight.
Hint - singing a song does not stop an attack.
If the people who believe in the mission of the US military had cared about it's reputation, they should have stopped the Iraq War before it started.
An entire generation of young people watched "vietnam 2" happening before their eyes, and just decided to rebel. A huge part of the Trump and Bernie vote was, essentially, a modern version of the anti-war vote.
Ironically, when people compare Trump to Nixon, and point to all the Nixon-era people he is involved with, they forget that Nixon's campaign was based on the idea of getting out of Vietnam.
They didn't sign up to work on gov't projects for the military? Fine, leave - they'll find someone else to do your job. This is a half-billion dollar project, with private market implications and potential, these dozen engineers are replaceable. They replaced Ray Ozzie, they can replace a dozen random engineers fairly quickly.
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It's funny, the closer they were to combat, the more pacifistic they were.
World War I, in particular, was completely avoidable, and since WWII was directly caused by WWI, you could say that WWII was completely avoidable.
Than the tiny, tiny bubble of people who actually try to live by their beliefs.
Writing Win10 code that is designed to hoover every piece of data you have on your computer. Faux outrage at its best.
One thing the military is involved in a lot of places around the world is humanitarian relief, since they can bring in basically a small city with modern medical supplies, doctors, food and water purification plants on demand to any coast.
So don't forget you are demanding not to help THAT either. Seems fairly short-sighted and ill considered to me.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Since this is a US website talking about US company and the US military:
Back then, 70 years ago, the US was defending against attacks, even defending other countries.
Nowadays it is always the US which starts the attacks, committing war crimes and massacres. No more "defense".
So as the ones you defended against back then, you are the same murderous criminal thugs now.
Even that one time 70 years ago was a fluke, a one time thing basically. The US is built on genocides of indians, continued with war and exploitation abroad. Just one generation before the grandparents, the US was a normal a murderous plundering and occupating country just like it is today.
Quote from Smedley D. Butler USMC General:
“I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”
It's reasonable to demand that Microsoft stop making products for the military, but you're right, that covers a lot of ground. It's also reasonable for Microsoft to replace those employees, because they're in business to make money, and if it's not Microsoft then it will just be someone else. If need be they'll make USABSD, or use Linux, etc etc.
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Among the signatories. Deport them all
I doubt very much Microsoft is going to listen. If fact, they are probably going to tell them to quit if they don't like it.
Not that I'm trying to draw comparisons, but this reminds me of when Google withdrew from AI development for the military. Their withdrawal was based on arguments from, and resignations by, some of the people involved in the project. I, for one, am absolutely sure that the fact that many of those people were Russian and Chinese citizens had nothing to do with their objections to the project. /s
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I fail to see what's wrong with selling military applications of a product such as Hololens.
1) It's more profit for Microsoft.
2) A stronger United States make was LESS likely.
I fail to see what's wrong with selling military applications of a product such as Hololens.
1) It's more profit for Microsoft.
2) A stronger United States make war LESS likely.
When you are brutally murdered it will be a celebration of American culture.
Brett Buttfuck here to defend traitor Drumpf and his tiny bone spur feet that his father threateend a podiatrist tenant to make him write the letter keeping his fat, cowardly faggot traitor inheritor out of Vietnam, like most pussy Republicans.
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They clowns are arguing against better training? Better training means fewer casualties and higher survival rates for friendly troops.
I agree that Microsoft should stop making software for the military, but for a completely different reason: patriotic and I want only the best software for our soldier. Wouldn't want their augmented reality kit to be hacked by the enemy. Better give the contract to a more competent development group. The only area where Microsoft excels is finding new ways to allow a buffer overflow, confused deputy, weak key, etc.
The better weapons you have (bigger, more accurate stick), the less you tend to have to use it. Also the less collateral damage. You can be sheep, or you can be the sheepdog.
Just another day in Paradise
Look systemd is a psyop meant to drive other countries crazy
And zero world wars since those bases opened.
stop buying and using all Microsoft products. And while they're at it, they should let it be known that they are no longer interested in defending the lives and property of the Microsoft corporation and/or its employees; it would simply be too tawdry to defend these awful and immoral people and their business.
I'm disgusted by the vomitous behaviour of the munchkin employees of these completely unnecessary tech companies. The world was working and the US military was fully capable long before these virtue signalling fools even existed. Nobody needs Google or Microsoft, there are other search engines and operating systems, and if they're gonna do business with evil totalitarian dictatorships like China and help them use tech to oppress people by the millions while dissing the US military and American national security then the US Government should re-classify them as foreign entities, invalidate all their intellectual property claims, and deport all their non-citizen workers. If they hate this country so much they are jolly well free to leave - all the fences and walls we erect on the borders are to limit people trying to flood in from elsewhere illegally, NEVER to force people to stay here.
- US Navy vet
I once heard you killed three men in a bar with nothing but a pencil...a fucking pencil! Who the fuck does that?!?
About to discover the meaning of the term, at will.
Their definition of base is very, very small.
When a US company, brand does not want to work with the US mil, let them.
But know the US mil still needs the same products and services.
0. Do it within the mil. That might not happen due to politics and having to always buy in services/products.
1. Create a CIA front company and let it be free to "compete" in the open marketplace.
Wy the CIA, so any sudden international interest can be detected globally.
2. Give that created new company mil work.
3. Let it grow and become a normal company.
4. Find a much better existing patriotic company that has great staff who support the USA fully.
5. Find an existing larger company that can be asked to make a new product.
6. Upgrade an existing smaller company and provide it the details needed to support the mil.
Make sure the staff like the USA, support the US and are actually patriotic.
7. Due full background investigations on short list of approved brands so they can be trusted with mil work this time.
Make sure the company is in the USA and does its great work in the USA. No brands that are an office in the USA and a much larger work force well outside the USA.
Never invest in any US brands that are not security cleared and fully trusted by the US mil again.
8. Where was the security in this? Why are reading about this in real time?
US mil production, secrets should stay secret for decades and/or until allowed to be released to the public/declassified.
Talk with the FBI, GCHQ, MI5/6, NSA/CIA about decades of production lines of quality mil equipment that never got/gets talked about.
Could it be a trap to see who looks, asks, responds to a mentioned US mil project? So its put out to see who requests/looks/networks/asks for more information?
Other nations are fooled into wasting billions of $ and years on VR and start fully importing NSA altered VR consumer computer parts?
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
If you want to troll you need to be accurate. For example, your weak ass troll about Jews? Gates is not a Jew. No one import7at MS has ever been a Jew. Why mention Jews? Because you stupidly believe you will trigger Jews? You wont. Jews survived the nazis. Real ones, not fake trump hating nazis. So some fat nerd on the internet is beneath notice,
You want to troll? Try how Hillary has never been questioned under oath. Or the post-op trans suicide rate. Or the criminally unconstitutional Obama admin list of anti American evil. Or the religious anti-science belief based nature of AGW.
All true. All triggers. All quality trolls.
Jews? Lololololol lololol, weak sauce, kiddo.
Troll harder.
Meta-trolls R us.
Congratulations snowflakes, tens of thousands of tech jobs are for companies that have sold hundreds of millions of software to military agencies around the globe.
Your tech job, even if it is not tied directly to the military is affected by military purchases of tech.
More impressive: South Korea pays 900 million for US troop protection:
> Seoul will pay roughly $920 million this year for the 28,500 U.S. military personnel stationed in
> the country, according to officials from both countries. That represents an increase of
> about 8% from what Seoul paid in 2018. South Korea foots about half of the overall cost
https://www.wsj.com/articles/south-korea-to-pay-more-under-new-military-deal-with-u-s-11549794220
Now if only self righteous EU countries would pay up for the 70+ years the US has been protecting them and paying huge parts of NATO's budget.
Likewise, the US Navy keeping the straights near Singapore open for the international shipping industry. Surely, Central and South America are paying nothing for that.
So complain about excessive military spending or tech companies cozying up with military agencies somewhere else.
That international presence keeps large numbers of the world's people employed and fed - not to mention the hundreds of thousands of California, Oregon and Washington residents jobs directly tied to receiving and processing imports from Asia and the Middle East.
ABC employees to protest the mistreatment, hostile work place, degradation and systemic harassment of
Dads everywhere:
- Shows that sell advertising because it's funny to see men get injured in their groi n
- Shows that make dads into bumbling fools
- Shows that make dads into forgetful idiots
- Shows that make dads into insensitive ogres
Where is the protest?
Where's the protest about hostile workforce in K-6 education where 80% of teachers are female and 20% are male over the last 50 years?
Where's the protest about contract riders being used to staff 75% females on a larger movie's crew and production company to the detriment of men which get systemically excluded from jobs.
None of those above are liberal or conservative issues.
An AI ethics review bot, are you kidding me? You couldn't be bothered to hire a human for the review of subjective man made standards? Especially after your Twitter AI became a raging Nazi, satanist Homophobe?
I guess they had the same AI in the 80s to review the ethics of stealing intellectual property. "Our ethics board is based on Alice, it will deal with it in 200 cycles or less, promise"
Looks like MS has a little tumour.
I have an idea.
Take all the people at MS who will lose their jobs by dropping this contract. Keep them. Fire the people signing the demand. Transfer the first group into those new positions.
Put your money where your mouths are people.
Why should Microsoft stop making products for the military?
It depends a bit on who those people are. The Hololens team is pretty small in comparison to the total size of Microsoft. If those people are all part of the Hololens project then having them all leave could be a problem. If they're distributed across the entire company then having them all leave would be statistical noise in the normal staff turnover for a company the size of Microsoft.
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You must have meant imperialistic. No wait, they are same thing in america.
Good point, anyone who ever changes their opinion on anything is a hypocrite and should be condemned. Never learn or evolve your ethics, figure them out when you are a kid and stick to them no matter what.
Oh, and whatever you do don't think anything is less than black and white. There is literally no difference between typing up orders in Word and using a Hololens in the field to direct drone strikes.
Good point about China and Russia too. The ICBMs and the hypersonic cruise missiles won't deter them, but Hololens is sure to make them think twice. And that's definitely what it will be used for.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Great point. Unless you have at least 100,000 followers on Twitter your opinion is basically worthless. Never mind that you are one of the key engineers on that project, they will effortlessly replace you if you quit. Remember that next time you think about asking for a raise.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
If these employees don't want to be protected by the US military, send them to Syria, Libia or Nicaraqua to fend for themselves.
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Some of you libtards probably wrote code for it.
Heil Hitlary as mandated by law!
There is literally no difference between typing up orders in Word and using a Hololens in the field to direct drone strikes.
There's a big difference: the guy writing up orders in word has the potential to do a lot more damage than the guy directing the drone strike.
Do they even have armed personal in the data bases? Or is it just like file cabinets and such?
Well, if you read slashdot enough. You will realize there is a large left leaning anti-American group here who are very loud. And you replied to one asking why he hates America.
Funny, there was not a peep when they developed technology for the police state and shoved tracking/telemetry into most of the worlds computers. But oh no, the military wants a vr headset, the horror.
You want to find Russian meddling? Here's where you look - the KGB was skilled at exploiting "useful idiots" in the West throughout the cold war.
This has all the hallmarks of the strident, well-intentioned but stupid protests against the Pershing 2 in the 1980s.
-Styopa
that time is long, long gone. And that's before you take into account Globalism's effect. The rich and powerful have stopped allowing wars except for the occasional one to steal resources (oil mostly). For example, Pakistan has been glibly ignoring terrorists attacking India for decades and still no war there. Why? Bad for business.
At this point the only thing keeping wars going is the Military Industrial Complex. Folks standing up to stop feeding that beast is a good thing.
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he just recognized that the Nazi's having the bomb would be worse.
Also, the bomb is pretty much the last word in military. Between that and our two oceans we don't need to keep building up like we do.
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What really worries me, is that somewhere, someone is running something critical there on a VB3 app......
At what point can we question their patriotism? They are domestic enemies of the United States.
Well, software engineering recruitment is all about the theory of "rockstar" developers and their 1000x productivity. If you have 12 "rock stars" you're talking about 12k employees on strike. That's pretty significant..
Just because you dislike wealthy private interests influence over government, and therefor, the effects of those interests on the military and the lives of fellow Americans sent to senselessly risk their lives to protect specific private interests (over the interests of citizens of the country at large) doesn't make you anti-American.
If anything, it makes you far more American than worshiping capital.
A military is necessary because unfortunately, not all reasonable requests can be resolved through diplomacy. What many don't support is use of military for unreasonable requests or pushing military over diplomacy. I don't see how that makes people "anti-American" unless American is synonymous with irrational forceful violence.
These signators are morons. It's impossible to know, but not impossible to understand, that potential wars have been avoided because the enemy knew they would face a highly trained, highly professional, well equipped US military. How many more wars would there be in the world if the US military was poorly trained, and unable to enforce a peace among belligerents? These "dozens" are most likely of the Leftist stripe that think that the US is the cause of all the world's problems, and if we just stayed out of wars, peace would break out everywhere.
Now now, hold your horses there mini-Mussolini. Part of the system you support encourages these sort of freedoms of expression.
If you don't support their lack of support of the US industrial military complex, we can send you to Germany 194, so you'll fit in. Throwing people out because they don't agree with you isn't how this system works.
anyone who ever changes their opinion on anything is a hypocrite and should be condemned. Never learn or evolve your ethics, figure them out when you are a kid and stick to them no matter what.
For a second there I thought you are being serious. A bit of a mixed message there.
I don't believe this arguement in the era of nuclear weapons. Stability has been brought by a degree of shared sanity avoiding mutual destruction.
It doesn't matter what treaties exist, in the modern era if you attempt to overthrow a government with a large nuclear arsenal, all bets are off. There's plenty of fighting power and will to fight to go around, thankfully, there's a degree of sanity and fear now to discourage large scale conflicts.
It looks like you're trying to fight a war.
Do you want to
- win hearts and minds
- drone strike
- lock and load!
- nuke 'em 'till they glow
Well, they could always respond by thanking those employees for their input and wishing them well in their new employment search.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Good point, anyone who ever changes their opinion on anything is a hypocrite and should be condemned. Never learn or evolve your ethics, figure them out when you are a kid and stick to them no matter what.
Wait, aren't you from the same SJW movement that thinks that a person should be judged for the rest of their life for something they wrote in their high school yearbook?
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
The way these dozens of workers can stop their work being used for weapons development is to quit in protest and find other jobs. However, like true lefties everywhere, they want to impose their beliefs on others. They want to hijack their company to do what they want. In short, they want to steal the company away from its rightful owners.
If you disagree then walk away. Anything can be used for bad, where do you draw the line?
No, they don't want people to get use to the idea of, "--out of ammo-- [shoot outside the LOS to reload!]"
The war was pretty much won by the time the bombs were dropped. The US had an agreement with the USSR that 1 month after Germany surenders USSR will declare war on Japan. As soon that happened and the Japanese were fighting a 2 front war they would have surrendered but that would have menat sharing Japan with USSR so Truman dropped the bomb one day before USSR declared war. The Japanese still did not surrender but in the meantime in just 3 days the Soviet armies rolled over Manchuria. So Truman dropped the second bomb adn the Japanese surrendered but one could argue the surrender was because of the pasting the Japanese Army was getting from the Soviets in Manchuria rather than the bomb. And they made sure to surrender to the Americans and not the Russians as the Americans are foreigners in Asia and always will be dependent on the host countries but the Russians are an Asian power and would have just absorbed them like they absorbed Eastern Europe.
**Life is too short to be serious**
Where do you get this rubbish from?
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Yep.
But see... He changed his opinion, for now. He's allowed to do that. And he'll change his opinion again tomorrow or maybe the day after.
This is how the SJWs in the USA maintain their very strict standards. They don't. At all. The rules change at their convenience. At the drop of a hat.
The fact that it sounds absolutely insane to anyone else noticing this is of no consequence. They're just simple minded buffoons who can't appreciate what SJWs are trying to fight for. Of course, that changes with the phases of the moon, but who cares about that?
Nope.
What they suggest is leaving weapons development to weapons companies.
Crazy talk!!
no, they are arguing against becoming weapons developers without their consent.
Tell them to clear out their cube and find work elsewhere.
Venezuela needs people who can code.
he just recognized that the Nazi's having the bomb would be worse.
Between that and our two oceans we don't need to keep building up like we do.
I'm certainly happy that you are such an expert on military matters that you have determined without absolute certainty that there is no need for research, investment, development or testing because there will never be any need to improve or counter any new threats since they will never exist. Thanks to you, I will sleep a lot better.
Albert Einstein you are not.
Seems rather short sighted, one man's "battlefield information network" is another's "search and rescue operations".
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Zero world wars since I was born, too.
Clearly, I am the God of Peace.
Not that Microsoft has anything to do with it, but this is actually the case. I'm actually sitting in a warship as I write this on a port visit in New York. Most of the new combat management systems we've had installed use Linux rather than Windows. Older ones, like Link 11 management consoles, and a few civillian nav radar ARPA consoles are Windows based. But most new stuff that's coming out is Linux. It makes sense. The contractors that develop the systems would rather pocket the money than give it to Microsoft.
Unless you are the majority, you should be rightfully ignored in a democracy.
Fuck em all and fire their asses! Bunch of damn pussies.
It feels like ww for those currently fighting them tho.
Also a ww3 now literally will drag almost the whole world in. Gj.