What I'd prefer to see is everyone EXCEPT Microsoft in on this in an attempt to finally beat the giant at one of its markets. We all know that no matter what courts say Microsoft is gonna be around for a looong time. If the other companies recognize this, perhaps we can finally get a little fair play.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
Aren't there online IDs that you can get to prove you're an adult? Fingerprint scanning seems pretty far out - who's gonna go spend money on the scanner so they can spend more money? Plus, I'll be interested to hear from the first script kiddie to winnuke the server (since you KNOW it's gonna be NT). I think this is a pretty horrible idea for the gamblers (it'd be so easy to stack games for the casinos) - plus, those with gambling addictions are in a casino even when they're not in a casino - that can't be right, can it?
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
There's a deisel pump at every station I go to. It used to be more expensive: now its fifty cents cheaper at least. I wouldn't mind me having a deisel engine (when I was a kid my parents had one until it got totalled)
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
I usually am never saddened by a celebrity's death. I don't know them. It seems distant.
I picked up Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy in fourth grade because I had seen my older cousin reading it. It nearly single-handedly launched me on my way to reading better and better literature and taught me how to think for myself better than any school could. I don't know what I can say to make this comment different from the hundreds of others that have appeared here, so I will say it plainly: Douglas Adams, you will not be forgotten. You have achieved one of Man's main goals, which is more than billions of other people on this planet can say: you will never die. You live on in your books and words of wisdom. Though your physical body has passed on, you are still with us and will be forever.
Rest in peace and watch over us.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
So, um, is anyone going to try to reinforce the GPL license in court, or, as usual and as expected by Apple, are we going to march around protesting but do jack shit? Be honest. I'd like to see the programmer / company with the balls to bring Apple to court over this. People complain that the GPL has never been proven in court - now's a golden opportunity. So, all you zealots and ragers, time to put those oh-so-eloquent big words to the test and aswer the question: do you have the balls?
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
Wow. You'd do all that? That'd be a first! I have not once seen the GPL fought in court - perhaps if you showed me where it has been I could believe you, but until then I say that the GPL is a great idea but that its useless without legal backing (i.e. a won court case) - - plus, as an open source developer, where are you getting money to get a lawyer and bring suit? I don't see too many high paying jobs that deal with open source (sure, there are SOME, and if you're one of them I can understand).
The GPL is useless until it has won a court case.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
Its not like your vote counts anyways, whoever the big guys want will get into office. If anything this will be good for open source software after the mainframe doing the vote counting continually BSODs and reboots off into infinite.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
A highly unstable space probe is being decomissioned. On its controlled re-entry burnup, it loses contact with the world. After awhile, contact is regained....
It was supposed to brun up entering the atmosphere
It didn't
And now its brought something with it...
Expect to see The MIR Incident out in theatres this summer!
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
Linux (or BSD or whatever - even though I've never needed to recompile my OBSD kernel to get all the functionality of Linux, now that I think about it) is never going to go truly mainstream until we get some sort of uber-kernel out there that has everything in it ready to go. Helix is on the right track with UI, but can you imagine some computer-illiterate user who only wants to use email and games and whatnot recompile the kernel? Hells no. Flame me or moderate me down if you realy feel the need, but its true.
On another note - - I saw some games shipping with both Windows and Linux version on the same CD, perhaps that is a good thing for id to check out.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
OpenBSD has just had more releases than NetBSD. I guess Theo must have played with OBSD 0.1->1.9 on his own computer instead of releasing it to the public.
No matter what the version I'm very excited to order my copy of the CD.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
That's fine, as long as it gets the name out there - see, I'm not like most OSS users, there is no such thing as selling out - it's called being succesful. Red Hat gets the Linux name out, I know a bunch of people who don't LIKE Red Hat, but it gets the name out, and that's the most important thing.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
I think that BSD is extremely cool. Please, PLEASE don't think I'm trying to start a holy war here. This is MY opinion - you have yours, and I respect that.
I prefer BSD over Linux.
OK, I can hear you all yelling at me now. Yes, I prefer BSD. I don't know why, but I do. I run OpenBSD as a desktop. I have found that the biggest issue I have with it is the ports tree - it just isn't big enough. No XMMS, no mozilla (C++ linker issue there), no Gnome. These are purely aesthetic things, though, and these ARE available on FreeBSD - but I'd never change from OpenBSD.
However, the biggest issue I have with BSD is this - there needs to be more user groups. I see Linux user groups and Linux shows everywhere, I see a BSD group maybe a few states away. I see BSD shows on the opposite coast of the US. I think that it needs to get *out there* more, and I think that Mac OS X will help get it more recognition, and I think that perhaps soon I will see more BSD shows and more BSD groups around.
Now, you may not agree with me - fine, think what you want.
Another issue I have is documentation. I would love for there to be more HOWTOs for BSD. I see lots of documentation on compiling kernels, but there is no user friendly way of doing it (such as make xconfig) (on another note - I enjoyed being able to download a tarball of the kernel source instead of using CVS). Also, I would like to be able to look at a HOWTO specific for the subject of installing a CDRW or getting other hardware to work - with compatibility lists on each thing.
I like BSD a lot on all other counts, though. Things will get better, its not a dead OS (which is what I thought when I first installed it, like it was just an old OS that some hobbyists kept going). It is probably at the same stage Linux was at when I first started using it (when redhat 5.0 was released). I expect to see a lot from it soon.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
There are a lot of very nice ergonomic keyboards out there right now. IMHO it is a much better interface than, say, the mouse (having just switched to larswm, I barely use my mouse at all now)
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
I wouldn't download windows if it were free. I use no microsoft products. (well, except for at my high school, because that's all they have, set up a Debian box awhile ago but that's gone now, 386 anyways;) I have an OpenBSD box as my main OS, but I plan to get another box for possibly BeOS.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
Mere internet users do not need to see the source. But, I am not a mere internet user, and I doubt that many people who read this are. So I guess that means that we can see the source, by his definition? We should band together and write a letter telling him about us and the contributions we as a community have made, and make it evident that we are NOT 'mere internet users.'
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
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The user base doesn't matter for crap. It matters what the industry thinks. Looks like they're embracing GNOME and not KDE. Therefore, the user base will grow. The same thing is happening in the *nix vs MS debackle, companies are starting to realize which the better product is, embracing it, therefore the user base increases.
IMHO KDE and GNOME are tools to interface more cleanly with your computer. Both are excellent products. In the 'one man's trash is another's treasure' view, different people want different things. This may not be a very business oriented statement, but if the companies are going for the OSS philosophy, they should allow the other to co-exist without arguement so that there will always be a choice. Neither KDE nor GNOME should be obliterated, therefore taking away the choice, therefore going against the OSS philsophy, and in kind shedding bad light on OSS. When people read that the OSS philosophy is about choice, then see flamewars like these pop up, it can not look good in the public eye.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
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What I'd prefer to see is everyone EXCEPT Microsoft in on this in an attempt to finally beat the giant at one of its markets. We all know that no matter what courts say Microsoft is gonna be around for a looong time. If the other companies recognize this, perhaps we can finally get a little fair play.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
Aren't there online IDs that you can get to prove you're an adult? Fingerprint scanning seems pretty far out - who's gonna go spend money on the scanner so they can spend more money? Plus, I'll be interested to hear from the first script kiddie to winnuke the server (since you KNOW it's gonna be NT). I think this is a pretty horrible idea for the gamblers (it'd be so easy to stack games for the casinos) - plus, those with gambling addictions are in a casino even when they're not in a casino - that can't be right, can it?
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
There's a deisel pump at every station I go to. It used to be more expensive: now its fifty cents cheaper at least. I wouldn't mind me having a deisel engine (when I was a kid my parents had one until it got totalled)
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
Has an MS product ever NOT crashed at the first showing? IIRC 2000, 98, and 95 all did, but perhaps I am mistaken.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
Heh, thanks for the laugh, Microsoft... now where's your REAL case against Linux?
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
I usually am never saddened by a celebrity's death. I don't know them. It seems distant.
I picked up Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy in fourth grade because I had seen my older cousin reading it. It nearly single-handedly launched me on my way to reading better and better literature and taught me how to think for myself better than any school could. I don't know what I can say to make this comment different from the hundreds of others that have appeared here, so I will say it plainly: Douglas Adams, you will not be forgotten. You have achieved one of Man's main goals, which is more than billions of other people on this planet can say: you will never die. You live on in your books and words of wisdom. Though your physical body has passed on, you are still with us and will be forever.
Rest in peace and watch over us.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
So, um, is anyone going to try to reinforce the GPL license in court, or, as usual and as expected by Apple, are we going to march around protesting but do jack shit? Be honest. I'd like to see the programmer / company with the balls to bring Apple to court over this. People complain that the GPL has never been proven in court - now's a golden opportunity. So, all you zealots and ragers, time to put those oh-so-eloquent big words to the test and aswer the question: do you have the balls?
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
Which character, if any, in Dragon Ball Z would you want to be?
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
When you become a famous hip-hop freestyle break-beat scratcher, will you remember slashdot and all of its wonderous trollies?
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
Wow. You'd do all that? That'd be a first! I have not once seen the GPL fought in court - perhaps if you showed me where it has been I could believe you, but until then I say that the GPL is a great idea but that its useless without legal backing (i.e. a won court case) - - plus, as an open source developer, where are you getting money to get a lawyer and bring suit? I don't see too many high paying jobs that deal with open source (sure, there are SOME, and if you're one of them I can understand).
The GPL is useless until it has won a court case.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
Its not like your vote counts anyways, whoever the big guys want will get into office. If anything this will be good for open source software after the mainframe doing the vote counting continually BSODs and reboots off into infinite.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
In the movie, yeah, its black, non-reflective, yada yada, but in the book its translucent.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
A highly unstable space probe is being decomissioned. On its controlled re-entry burnup, it loses contact with the world. After awhile, contact is regained....
It was supposed to brun up entering the atmosphere
It didn't
And now its brought something with it...
Expect to see The MIR Incident out in theatres this summer!
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
so, what, this is OpenBSD with an ext2fs file system, /usr/include/linux, and a /proc?
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
Linux (or BSD or whatever - even though I've never needed to recompile my OBSD kernel to get all the functionality of Linux, now that I think about it) is never going to go truly mainstream until we get some sort of uber-kernel out there that has everything in it ready to go. Helix is on the right track with UI, but can you imagine some computer-illiterate user who only wants to use email and games and whatnot recompile the kernel? Hells no. Flame me or moderate me down if you realy feel the need, but its true.
On another note - - I saw some games shipping with both Windows and Linux version on the same CD, perhaps that is a good thing for id to check out.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
Excuse my interjection, but since when is HTML hard?
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
OpenBSD has just had more releases than NetBSD. I guess Theo must have played with OBSD 0.1->1.9 on his own computer instead of releasing it to the public.
No matter what the version I'm very excited to order my copy of the CD.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
That's fine, as long as it gets the name out there - see, I'm not like most OSS users, there is no such thing as selling out - it's called being succesful. Red Hat gets the Linux name out, I know a bunch of people who don't LIKE Red Hat, but it gets the name out, and that's the most important thing.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
I think that BSD is extremely cool. Please, PLEASE don't think I'm trying to start a holy war here. This is MY opinion - you have yours, and I respect that.
I prefer BSD over Linux.
OK, I can hear you all yelling at me now. Yes, I prefer BSD. I don't know why, but I do. I run OpenBSD as a desktop. I have found that the biggest issue I have with it is the ports tree - it just isn't big enough. No XMMS, no mozilla (C++ linker issue there), no Gnome. These are purely aesthetic things, though, and these ARE available on FreeBSD - but I'd never change from OpenBSD.
However, the biggest issue I have with BSD is this - there needs to be more user groups. I see Linux user groups and Linux shows everywhere, I see a BSD group maybe a few states away. I see BSD shows on the opposite coast of the US. I think that it needs to get *out there* more, and I think that Mac OS X will help get it more recognition, and I think that perhaps soon I will see more BSD shows and more BSD groups around.
Now, you may not agree with me - fine, think what you want.
Another issue I have is documentation. I would love for there to be more HOWTOs for BSD. I see lots of documentation on compiling kernels, but there is no user friendly way of doing it (such as make xconfig) (on another note - I enjoyed being able to download a tarball of the kernel source instead of using CVS). Also, I would like to be able to look at a HOWTO specific for the subject of installing a CDRW or getting other hardware to work - with compatibility lists on each thing.
I like BSD a lot on all other counts, though. Things will get better, its not a dead OS (which is what I thought when I first installed it, like it was just an old OS that some hobbyists kept going). It is probably at the same stage Linux was at when I first started using it (when redhat 5.0 was released). I expect to see a lot from it soon.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
There are a lot of very nice ergonomic keyboards out there right now. IMHO it is a much better interface than, say, the mouse (having just switched to larswm, I barely use my mouse at all now)
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
I started binge drinking because D.A.R.E made me so damned depressed!
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
I wouldn't download windows if it were free. I use no microsoft products. (well, except for at my high school, because that's all they have, set up a Debian box awhile ago but that's gone now, 386 anyways ;) I have an OpenBSD box as my main OS, but I plan to get another box for possibly BeOS.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
Mere internet users do not need to see the source. But, I am not a mere internet user, and I doubt that many people who read this are. So I guess that means that we can see the source, by his definition? We should band together and write a letter telling him about us and the contributions we as a community have made, and make it evident that we are NOT 'mere internet users.'
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
Dude. Decaf.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson
The user base doesn't matter for crap. It matters what the industry thinks. Looks like they're embracing GNOME and not KDE. Therefore, the user base will grow. The same thing is happening in the *nix vs MS debackle, companies are starting to realize which the better product is, embracing it, therefore the user base increases.
IMHO KDE and GNOME are tools to interface more cleanly with your computer. Both are excellent products. In the 'one man's trash is another's treasure' view, different people want different things. This may not be a very business oriented statement, but if the companies are going for the OSS philosophy, they should allow the other to co-exist without arguement so that there will always be a choice. Neither KDE nor GNOME should be obliterated, therefore taking away the choice, therefore going against the OSS philsophy, and in kind shedding bad light on OSS. When people read that the OSS philosophy is about choice, then see flamewars like these pop up, it can not look good in the public eye.
If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson