Bullshit! No wonder we get the damn politicians we get.. You people who support this crap are the problem. I guess you all are just too rich to give a damn.. Must be nice.
This disposable credit card thing might be useful, but the fees might be a rip off... See, contrary to your prejudices and bigotry on the matter, this is the bigger issue..
Who is this guy? It appears he's with the Greens... What the hell is wrong with them to let somebody like this in the party? Looks like the Greens should be tossed into the dustbin with the others.. I never did trust them considering the strange bedfellows they hang with... I sure as hell would never vote for them.. I hope nobody else does.
The choice they made. They can always turn a major party into a minor one with the stroke of a... what do they vote with? Pen? Magic marker? Touch screen? Anyway the choice is there to squander away with a wasted vote for the regulars, and then resume complaining about it.
So that's what we've reduced ourselves to, huh? Let's hope everybody acts on that assumption and does their best to put a stop to this. And quit electing these assholes! Alright?
Yes, and I saw and smelled the river. Believe me it stunk. And, if he were still alive, my grandfather could tell you some stories that you probably wouldn't believe anyway, so he'd be wasting his time, and have nothing left to say but, Get off of my lawn!
If the bit rate can be measured accurately, you could be charged for whatever it is averaged out over the month. Then they wouldn't have to guarantee a set rate, unless you want to pay for one. The last mile is where the government is most needed to compete against the private firms. Only then could the price become reasonable. Heh, just like American health insurance. (couldn't help taking the pot shot there)
I don't believe, for example, that we should put cameras in parliament and in politician's homes, and provide 24 hour public access via the internet.
Parliament should have cameras, their homes no.. unless they wish regulate what we do in our homes, in which case there most definitely should be cameras in theirs. I give a person authority only if I believe them to be better than me, or if I can be assured they can live by the rules they set forth. And in the process they must prove that they are better, more civilized. Their job requires that higher standard. Our obligation is to hold them to it, and presently that requires close monitoring. They have to earn our trust. They can't just demand it.
It's important that we have the power to kill off a proposal before it ever comes close to being a part of any legislation. If we don't, they will just slip it in through some back door. I believe the saying goes, nip it at the bud, before it becomes too big to kill. If they resist giving out the info, we are reduced to speculation and have every reason to expect the worst. That is much more harmful to the democratic process than laying it all out in the open from the start.
...I was hoping that if I could show an example of something that exists on the other side of the line...
I can wait... If you do find something, I'll be more than happy to hear what it could be... Because outside of military tactics and strategy during legitimate wartime activities, and a citizen's personal effects, I have yet to see a single thing that should be kept secret by government. We need the equivalent of the airport scanner to put them through. Fair's fair.
Why? He's doing us all a big favor. Nothing will bring a system down faster than exploiting it for all its worth. More patent trolls are what is needed, lots more.. until the damn thing chokes on its own vomit.
If they start metering, then I'll want any and all unwanted advertising to subsidize my connection. That's why I think it shouldn't happen, because we'll still be dealing with content regulation. A flat fee for a set speed is the best way. Charging for bit rates is the fairest way, not the number of bits.
$50CDN/month for unlimited Internet at cable speeds? Sounds fair.
Actually, you're right. If I download hundreds of gigs, or a terabyte or two, I'll come out way ahead... Unfortunately, I don't expect the price cap to remain for long.
I'm all for making the ISPs a public utility. It might be the only way to turn them into what they should be.. a pipe, just like the gas and lights.
That sucks! Maybe Netflix should offer lower quality, smaller files, while you Canadians get up and raise holy hell about the lack of competition for internet access, even if that means the government should offer some.
Well first off, unlike a government, I'm not dictating any policy to my boss, so that analogy doesn't hold up. Being boss enables him to kill the project at any time, right up to completion. And I find nothing wrong with making my existing documentation available to him. He would be welcome to it at any time. That is what we should demand from a government. If they want to maintain authority over us, we must assure that the entire process remain completely open.. right from the start. That's the price. It's our little Sword of Damocles, so to speak. We don't have to be in the room shouting them down. They just have to know that we are watching. Or even if they don't know, I don't care. But their past performance indicates that watch we must, very closely
I said nothing about "you don't want to see that"...
That's the implication when defending government secrecy. It's like defending how ACTA is being dealt with. Sorry, I consider that unacceptable.
Some of us need an alternative to PayPal... Online only works for those who carry the mark of the beast (have a bank, or PayPal account, or a credit card)
Actually an educated consumer is bad for the market as it functions today. Just like it's bad for today's politician who depends on deceit and FUD to win the election. There's a reason they're making all those cutbacks in education.
Since speculation seems to be the rule here, let's try to imagine how blackened the skies would be if we didn't have the environmentalists demanding that these industries clean up their act a little. Maybe if you lived fifty or a hundred years earlier you might understand... IOW "you had to be there". You had to see what Lake Michigan or the Chicago river used to look and smell like. And furthermore, the government subsidies towards alternative power is infinitesimal compared to what is given to oil and coal. Let's cut out that crap and see where the chips fall.
Telling the cell phone makers to print out some info they already have won't cost them anything. Me personally, I don't care to be holding a radio transmitter by its antenna, much less bridging it, reducing its performance... The RF is fairly concentrated at that spot, unlike ambient radiation.
Wrong. The public should know who's making such proposals from the beginning, so they can vote them out in the next election. You make not like to see the process, but the rest of us might like to know how they make the sausage and what they put into it. We certainly have that right. We should put the entire government in a glass house to keep it honest, regardless of whether it makes it a bit less "efficient".
Whether it's legal or illegal doesn't matter. It's a distraction away from the real intention of just killing all forms of real peer to peer networking. And it is why we should demand that the ISP operate as a dumb pipe, a simple router like the one sitting on my shelf, nothing more.
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That doesn't exclude it being accurate.
Bullshit! No wonder we get the damn politicians we get.. You people who support this crap are the problem. I guess you all are just too rich to give a damn.. Must be nice.
This disposable credit card thing might be useful, but the fees might be a rip off... See, contrary to your prejudices and bigotry on the matter, this is the bigger issue..
Yeah! I like to smell its feet..
Who is this guy? It appears he's with the Greens... What the hell is wrong with them to let somebody like this in the party? Looks like the Greens should be tossed into the dustbin with the others.. I never did trust them considering the strange bedfellows they hang with... I sure as hell would never vote for them.. I hope nobody else does.
That's exactly the crappy attitude I run up against. A big hearty "Fuck you!" to those who actually believe that shit.
You trying to be funny?
What sort of a choice is this?
The choice they made. They can always turn a major party into a minor one with the stroke of a... what do they vote with? Pen? Magic marker? Touch screen? Anyway the choice is there to squander away with a wasted vote for the regulars, and then resume complaining about it.
So that's what we've reduced ourselves to, huh? Let's hope everybody acts on that assumption and does their best to put a stop to this. And quit electing these assholes! Alright?
I hope they are sloppy as we are about redacting PDFs...
:-) Looks like we would be more on topic over here.
Yes, and I saw and smelled the river. Believe me it stunk. And, if he were still alive, my grandfather could tell you some stories that you probably wouldn't believe anyway, so he'd be wasting his time, and have nothing left to say but, Get off of my lawn!
If the bit rate can be measured accurately, you could be charged for whatever it is averaged out over the month. Then they wouldn't have to guarantee a set rate, unless you want to pay for one. The last mile is where the government is most needed to compete against the private firms. Only then could the price become reasonable. Heh, just like American health insurance. (couldn't help taking the pot shot there)
I don't believe, for example, that we should put cameras in parliament and in politician's homes, and provide 24 hour public access via the internet.
Parliament should have cameras, their homes no.. unless they wish regulate what we do in our homes, in which case there most definitely should be cameras in theirs. I give a person authority only if I believe them to be better than me, or if I can be assured they can live by the rules they set forth. And in the process they must prove that they are better, more civilized. Their job requires that higher standard. Our obligation is to hold them to it, and presently that requires close monitoring. They have to earn our trust. They can't just demand it.
It's important that we have the power to kill off a proposal before it ever comes close to being a part of any legislation. If we don't, they will just slip it in through some back door. I believe the saying goes, nip it at the bud, before it becomes too big to kill. If they resist giving out the info, we are reduced to speculation and have every reason to expect the worst. That is much more harmful to the democratic process than laying it all out in the open from the start.
I can wait... If you do find something, I'll be more than happy to hear what it could be... Because outside of military tactics and strategy during legitimate wartime activities, and a citizen's personal effects, I have yet to see a single thing that should be kept secret by government. We need the equivalent of the airport scanner to put them through. Fair's fair.
Why? He's doing us all a big favor. Nothing will bring a system down faster than exploiting it for all its worth. More patent trolls are what is needed, lots more.. until the damn thing chokes on its own vomit.
If they start metering, then I'll want any and all unwanted advertising to subsidize my connection. That's why I think it shouldn't happen, because we'll still be dealing with content regulation. A flat fee for a set speed is the best way. Charging for bit rates is the fairest way, not the number of bits.
$50CDN/month for unlimited Internet at cable speeds? Sounds fair.
Actually, you're right. If I download hundreds of gigs, or a terabyte or two, I'll come out way ahead... Unfortunately, I don't expect the price cap to remain for long.
I'm all for making the ISPs a public utility. It might be the only way to turn them into what they should be.. a pipe, just like the gas and lights.
That sucks! Maybe Netflix should offer lower quality, smaller files, while you Canadians get up and raise holy hell about the lack of competition for internet access, even if that means the government should offer some.
Well first off, unlike a government, I'm not dictating any policy to my boss, so that analogy doesn't hold up. Being boss enables him to kill the project at any time, right up to completion. And I find nothing wrong with making my existing documentation available to him. He would be welcome to it at any time. That is what we should demand from a government. If they want to maintain authority over us, we must assure that the entire process remain completely open.. right from the start. That's the price. It's our little Sword of Damocles, so to speak. We don't have to be in the room shouting them down. They just have to know that we are watching. Or even if they don't know, I don't care. But their past performance indicates that watch we must, very closely
I said nothing about "you don't want to see that"...
That's the implication when defending government secrecy. It's like defending how ACTA is being dealt with. Sorry, I consider that unacceptable.
Some of us need an alternative to PayPal... Online only works for those who carry the mark of the beast (have a bank, or PayPal account, or a credit card)
Actually an educated consumer is bad for the market as it functions today. Just like it's bad for today's politician who depends on deceit and FUD to win the election. There's a reason they're making all those cutbacks in education.
Since speculation seems to be the rule here, let's try to imagine how blackened the skies would be if we didn't have the environmentalists demanding that these industries clean up their act a little. Maybe if you lived fifty or a hundred years earlier you might understand... IOW "you had to be there". You had to see what Lake Michigan or the Chicago river used to look and smell like. And furthermore, the government subsidies towards alternative power is infinitesimal compared to what is given to oil and coal. Let's cut out that crap and see where the chips fall.
Telling the cell phone makers to print out some info they already have won't cost them anything. Me personally, I don't care to be holding a radio transmitter by its antenna, much less bridging it, reducing its performance... The RF is fairly concentrated at that spot, unlike ambient radiation.
You shouldn't be doing politics while you work anyway.
Absolutely.. I don't like working with people who are under the influence of any mind altering substances.
The 1st Amendment is little more than a toothless catch phrase now.
Wrong. The public should know who's making such proposals from the beginning, so they can vote them out in the next election. You make not like to see the process, but the rest of us might like to know how they make the sausage and what they put into it. We certainly have that right. We should put the entire government in a glass house to keep it honest, regardless of whether it makes it a bit less "efficient".
Does anyone know why the categories are always in all caps?
Because they are YELLING!
Whether it's legal or illegal doesn't matter. It's a distraction away from the real intention of just killing all forms of real peer to peer networking. And it is why we should demand that the ISP operate as a dumb pipe, a simple router like the one sitting on my shelf, nothing more.
All spam sites that make you register. But you already know that, right? :-)