Methinks if gamers need to see real ads to feel real when they 'game', then they are getting bombarded with waaaayyyy too many ads in the real, real world. (this ad is brought to you by the un-named company listed above, and discredits itself and submits that users will all eventually die after using this ad, due to a little-advertised but well known defect in advertising.) thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
If you are right for the job in the first place, teach them to think. Teach them how to analyze. Teach them how to see things. Teach them the value of an open mind. Give them the raw materials of problem-solving, not the specifics of 'how to grow worms in your backyard'. Remember the old story about don't give them fish, rather, teach them how to fish? Whatever your choice of project, keep the project secondary, only an excuse to think deeply. Thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
I have this belief that our world is going in the direction of unitary control. Some would call this conspiracy theory. I call it reality. But I digress... you made the point of that which will make this shift in power possible... people will never revolt and make necessary repairs and corrections as long as they feel secure as they are. Give them a bone while you cut off a tail and listen to them purr. It's the old adage about the frog and the water: put a frog into hot water and he jumps about frenetically, screaming and trying to get out of the pot. But put him into cool water, and raise the temperature a degree at a time, slooooowly, and he will remain at peace until well cooked. That's what they are doing to us, and that's how they will win.... unless..... more of us realize what's going on! thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
Too bad there aren't more people than there are who see things the way you do. I applaud your way of putting it. It isn't culture, or a mixing thereof that is the problem in any immigration discussion... the word to consider is RESPECT. When you move into another's neighborhood, city or country, you must RESPECT it and those who live there already. Our problem with immigrants today is that they come and have no respect for us or what we've endured to get where we are.... they just come to get the goodies, and as you say, work to subvert what we have into what they've just left and screwed up on their own soil. OUR problem isn't intolerance of races and cultures; we lack understanding of what we don't like about immigration, and we've allowed political correctness to make us believe we are wrong for wanting to protect and preserve OUR lives and society. Your assessment of predatory religions is also dead-on. That applies to all of them! As for checking your innards at the gate, don't let them fool ya.... it's not what they want you to believe! thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
Just an observation.... the driving, cell-talkers I see are just plain crappy drivers from the git-go! (Reason I see them talking is because I looked at them because of their crappy driving. ) They don't have a clue about 'driving in context', and don't see anything wrong with driving the speed limit or below, even if it means there are a hunnert honking cars behind them, all flashing their lights and fingers. They are in another world! These kinds of drivers are dangerous even without a cell phone! But WITH one, they are more than a menace. I can't image one of THEM, a bit near-sighted, leaning over the console to get a closer look at the dash mount to see where they are.... Me? I talk and drive. But I drive FIRST, and talk secondarily. I also follow the rules of the road in the first place.... 1) Keep up or Move Over! 2) Drive between the dotted lines! 3) Don't hit nuttin'! thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
Easiest way is just keep the page flat! For many cases, a thin piece of metal, plastic etc clipped behind the page being photoed would do it. Of course it's work, but if there are just a few pages, it's worth the effort. 'sides, it works and it's cheap! In case you aren't home where the metal is, just use another book's cover. thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
You are right, REAL crashes hit indeterminately, but in crashes such as these which are designed for comparison purposes, the test was a sham! To be real, both cars would have hit head-on. In this case, the new car had the full-frontal protection, smacked squarely across the front bumper, while the poor ol' timer had to put up with a car driven right into the driver's seat from the quarter. Where's the comparison to that? I wonder how the new Malibu would have fared if it had been hit by the Bel Aire at the same angles as in their test?
jes' wonderin' thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
ps, I DO agree that newer cars are made better and safer, btw!
If it's American Tax-payer dollars funding it, please spend the money on American soil, using American companies, American technology, and of course, American workers!
thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
I agree with your sentiments. We have allowed our govts to become monsters, and whether by design or by failure, they have come far, to totally undo us. But what can we expect from people who vote for such as we have?
There are lots of folks out there who really live by two credos:1) Don't confuse me with the facts... my mind's made up! and 2) I'd rather die in hell than let someone show me I'm wrong about anything! Don't count on any of them making things better. I try to talk to lots of folks, but most are still unwilling to believe that NASTY things can, and WILL happen to us, very soon!
Some day enough little folks will wake up and realize how bad it really is, and do the open window and scream 'I'm mad as hell and I won't take it any more...' trick. It'll be a revolution. I do hope not a violent one. I'd like to see one where our elected officials, if for no other reason than because they want to keep their jobs, begin to serve us, and not live their lives as if they are the rulers and we are the subjects. As for me, let the idiots in power repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot and continue doing harm to freedom. One day, either we will wake up or they will.
thanks for lis'nin'
seekertom
I clicked on the 'mirror' link and saw the two scenes, top with a black guy at the table, lower with a white guy's head. However, clicking on the link above the lower pic brought me to the polish site, and the pic there has not been altered. Maybe I'm wrong, but looks like the slashdotters have been hoodwinked, and ms really didn't do the dasterdly deed at all!
Corrections humbly accepted if offered....
thanks for lis'nin'
seekertom
Again, you said it... 70 years the same story. Why has it not changed? I believe it's because we really don't see/believe the tyrannie, and besides that, we're not unhappy enough with our circumstances to move to change things, yet. I don't believe progress means watching the pendulum swing back and forth and that's how things get 'fixed'. Consider this... in a heartbeat, we have been handed (we never asked for it) jobs lost due to outsourcing and un-balance of trade agreements, illegal aliens up the gazoo, and the govt handing out billions to business executives with absolutely no oversight to the distribution of same. None of these things are the results of any pendulum swing, and the pendulum won't fix the damage already done. It's up to the folks like you and I who bitch and complain, and help each other keep our thoughts on track, to make the difference. We've gotta stand up and decide what we want, and then go for it. Me? I want America returned to the American people. I don't want any more 'they' are the rulers and 'we' are the indentured servants. Democracy is a responsibility. I think we have shirked that responsibility for too long. We need to begin monitoring congress more closely, and keep them in line. No more fleece, no more pork, no more gold-service for them. As for the time frame, I only used the 20 year figure thinking it was in both our lifetimes of personal experience. We've both seen better in some aspects of life, worse in others, but do we really need to be bounced back and forth? Is it unreasonable to want a statement of purpose that we can agree on and follow it? (wasn't the Declaration of Independence just that?) Do we all want to be part of the 'new world order'? Why don't we get to vote on such radical changes to our way of life?
thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
Well said, and well felt. However, I'm not talking about absurdity, only working on the fact that corruption is still corruption even though laws protect it. As far as folks 'hating' govt officials, look around you and tell me you are PROUD of them and their behavior. As for our Constitution, I think there have been so many laws, bills and words enacted that its true meaning has been significantly altered, and not always in our favor! Isn't it true that the Supreme Court 'Interprets' the law? And a liberal court acts liberally etc etc? And aren't they chosen by the same govt that many of us are ashamed of and do not trust?
Actually, I missed the point of WHY the gal did her deed. It makes a difference. Was she one of the druggies who got caught and she's seeking revenge, or was she an innocent bystander who got mauled and wants to expose the weakness of the undercover system? I don't want to be able to holler 'fire' in a movie theater, but when I see a bad guy doing bad things, I DO want to be able to let the world know what I've seen, and maybe let the world judge who's wrong. Your heart is in the right place, but I hope you do not let idealism shield you from reality. The world, our beautiful America ain't what she used ta be, and we need to decide which direction she goes from here out. As for me, if ya can't play your cards on the table, move out of the room, please.
thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
What you said is exactly my point... laws have been passed to legalize activities, but these are activities that most of us learned in grade school or sunday school were wrong. But we've been led to believe that the ends justify the means, so pass a law and that makes it ok. But my problem is this.... there WILL be laws, there most likely already ARE laws that G. Orwell would be proud of, and we won't like. Now what? Too late to stop the steamroller? As for checks and balances, if both sides of the balance-beam are playing the same game, then what? Are YOU happy with the way things are and have been going the past 20 years?
Some things are right, but they are illegal. Some things are wrong and they are legal.
thanks for lis'nin' sertom
We always have alternatives, but not always the incentive to seek them out. I've been using w98se for as long as it's been out and things have been working out fine for me. It works for me. I have it installed on a dozen or more pcs. I still get the same work done now as I did years ago, actually more, with faster pcs.
True, the rest of the world is forging ahead, expensively, I might add, but think about it... if no one bought vista, they'd be still getting the work done with their original os, and maybe, just maybe, MS might have noticed the crap still on the shelves and then worked to put together a better package at a more reasonable price. Unfortunately, we are not yet at the tipping point of techy revolt. If we were so inclined, we'd fund a group of nerds to do the job right, in the first place, and deliver the message to the big boys that we are so-over the herd mentality ( I thought Linux was supposed to do that? Or apple... I'd buy an Apple, if I could afford one....). But not yet. We'll probably wait until folks like MS and USG have all our money, and we'll have no more for them to extract. And we'll have nothing left to buy the next un-working version of whatever. So they will probably sell it to someone who has all the money, and it will continue.
Things endure either because of their quality or because of our stupiditity.
Thanks for lis'nin'
seekertom
"Why are you directing this at Republicans when Democrats have a veto and filibuster proof control of the entire government?"
For my 2 cents... ALL govt activities are the results of BOTH PARTIES working in collusion (hope that's the right word). NOTHING is ever done in dc unless BOTH PARTIES want it, in spite of how they try to play the blame-card for the public's consumption.
America will be a far better place when we ALL recognize this and do something to change it, like maybe firing all the players and starting up a new team!
thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
"Thank you for your interest in how the federal government is spending its money and we hope you enjoy USAspending.gov "
I went to the website USAspending.gov, as linked in the slashdot article on govt/technology. The above is the last line in the show.... "ITS" money?????? I always thought it was OUR money the fg was spending!
Was this a slip of the tongue or a tongue-in-cheek statement?
thanks for lis'nin'
seekertom
"Security through obscurity" in this case, I think refers to folks hiding their identities today so they can go out and catch another bad guy tomorrow, and that's what is supposed to make us feel secure... that we see the bad guys getting caught. (But the dirty-pool game doesn't bother us enough... yet!)
I think we watch too much tv, if we believe that this approach to society is valid in America. But we do need to take a stand, all of us. Do we accept or not, any and all underhanded activities of govt officials put forth because the ends justify the means? Or, do we stand under the constitution and do what's right, even when it hurts? When things go badly, and someone gets caught doing the wrong thing, 'everyone' gets vocal about 'what is the country coming to', yet I'm afraid there are way too many of us who applaud the same dirty tricks when they 'get the job done'.
So which USA do you want to live in, the clean one or the dirty one?
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seekertom
You sound like you would drop the constitution in a heartbeat if someone convinced you it was in the interest of protecting some govt official.
Gotta love them cops, but this is not about them cops... it's about us folks getting tired of seeing all the govt can do to us while they set themselves up as above the law. If they want public info, they must also live by the public info.
Yes, sir, it IS about the 1st amendment (and all the others, too) and equal rights under the law. And it is about equality of all Americans, including govt officials. The law is for all of us.
Question for ya: what do you call a form of govt where that govt is above the law, and the laws are strictly for controlling the populace?
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seekertom
put a dollar value on what was 'stolen'. now look at what bernie madoff stole and compare the two. to have equal justice based on harm done, i guess maybe instead of prison, bernie should have been drawn and quartered in a public place or cooked slowly over an open pit on the front lawn of the white house... that would be a deterrent, wouldn't it?
(psst... hint... we don't do that in America, do we?)
yes, the punishment ought to fit the crime. unfortunately, it doesn't always, and when there's conflict of interest involved, it's usually the wrong decision.
i wonder what you think we should have done with bill clinton and his defilement of the oral office, or lying to congress? (or didn't that happen?)
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seekertom
yes,I agree with what you said. I suppose the real issue is this... someone is stepping up to the plate to act as our 'protector', and we don't like it. However, the implied consent of the ticket forms a contract, and unless we can prove it unlawful or invalid, I agree, it sticks.
How many other things in our society are like this? Give me something I really like or want or need and place so many controls and restrictions on it that I get crap on my candy, or, I just don't take the candy.
Does it sound like the fine print in the credit card agreements?
We, as Americans, need to get a grip and decide what we really want in life. Take the candy with the crap on it or don't. It's our choice. Just do it with open eyes and don't bitch when the constitution is gone.
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seekertom
I wonder how you might respond to this.... my house, my yard, are areas of the world that I and most others would believe to be 'private property', not public in any way, shape or form. Yet photos on Google Maps have presented a view of my privacy to the entire world. Do you believe that I have no right to control such invasions?
If you believe that this is ok because it's a matter of 'what's visible' from a public place, the street, then would it also be ok for the goodyear blimp to fly above the bm event, take all kindza pics and sell them to the highest bidder. Would you mind if your pics went on the internet like that?
Besides that, what if you bought a ticket to Disney World... and what if Disney said they, not you, owned the photos you took of your wife and kids, just because Mickey was in the background?
I don't have answers. only questions.
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seekertom
Another point of view.... I watch netflix shows on my laptop. I seldom watch my cable-powered tv. Why? It's because of all the fk$%^kg commercials!
Years ago, we had ota tv, funded by commercial sponsors. That seemed reasonable. Then came along paid subscription tv, cable tv, and it was supposed to give us commercial-free tv, since the service was paid for directly by the consumer, not the commercial advertisers.
However, corporate greed intervened and after market share was gained, the rules changed and commercials crept in to cable tv, slowly at first, but eventually ending up with more commercial than content like we have now!
What's worse, so many of the commercials are advertising the damn show in progress! How stoopit is that?
Point is, get rid of the heavy load of commercial interruptions and I'll go back to watching tv again. Sounds like competition working in favor of the consumer, but if the isps are legally allowed to block or interfere with my netflix shows, they effectively eliminate competion, and that sure as heck ain't the American way!
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seekertom
Slashdot Mirror
Methinks if gamers need to see real ads to feel real when they 'game', then they are getting bombarded with waaaayyyy too many ads in the real, real world. (this ad is brought to you by the un-named company listed above, and discredits itself and submits that users will all eventually die after using this ad, due to a little-advertised but well known defect in advertising.) thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
If you are right for the job in the first place, teach them to think. Teach them how to analyze. Teach them how to see things. Teach them the value of an open mind. Give them the raw materials of problem-solving, not the specifics of 'how to grow worms in your backyard'. Remember the old story about don't give them fish, rather, teach them how to fish? Whatever your choice of project, keep the project secondary, only an excuse to think deeply. Thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
I have this belief that our world is going in the direction of unitary control. Some would call this conspiracy theory. I call it reality. But I digress... you made the point of that which will make this shift in power possible... people will never revolt and make necessary repairs and corrections as long as they feel secure as they are. Give them a bone while you cut off a tail and listen to them purr. It's the old adage about the frog and the water: put a frog into hot water and he jumps about frenetically, screaming and trying to get out of the pot. But put him into cool water, and raise the temperature a degree at a time, slooooowly, and he will remain at peace until well cooked. That's what they are doing to us, and that's how they will win.... unless..... more of us realize what's going on! thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
Too bad there aren't more people than there are who see things the way you do. I applaud your way of putting it. It isn't culture, or a mixing thereof that is the problem in any immigration discussion... the word to consider is RESPECT. When you move into another's neighborhood, city or country, you must RESPECT it and those who live there already. Our problem with immigrants today is that they come and have no respect for us or what we've endured to get where we are.... they just come to get the goodies, and as you say, work to subvert what we have into what they've just left and screwed up on their own soil. OUR problem isn't intolerance of races and cultures; we lack understanding of what we don't like about immigration, and we've allowed political correctness to make us believe we are wrong for wanting to protect and preserve OUR lives and society. Your assessment of predatory religions is also dead-on. That applies to all of them! As for checking your innards at the gate, don't let them fool ya.... it's not what they want you to believe! thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
Just an observation.... the driving, cell-talkers I see are just plain crappy drivers from the git-go! (Reason I see them talking is because I looked at them because of their crappy driving. ) They don't have a clue about 'driving in context', and don't see anything wrong with driving the speed limit or below, even if it means there are a hunnert honking cars behind them, all flashing their lights and fingers. They are in another world! These kinds of drivers are dangerous even without a cell phone! But WITH one, they are more than a menace. I can't image one of THEM, a bit near-sighted, leaning over the console to get a closer look at the dash mount to see where they are.... Me? I talk and drive. But I drive FIRST, and talk secondarily. I also follow the rules of the road in the first place.... 1) Keep up or Move Over! 2) Drive between the dotted lines! 3) Don't hit nuttin'! thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
Easiest way is just keep the page flat! For many cases, a thin piece of metal, plastic etc clipped behind the page being photoed would do it. Of course it's work, but if there are just a few pages, it's worth the effort. 'sides, it works and it's cheap! In case you aren't home where the metal is, just use another book's cover. thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
You are right, REAL crashes hit indeterminately, but in crashes such as these which are designed for comparison purposes, the test was a sham! To be real, both cars would have hit head-on. In this case, the new car had the full-frontal protection, smacked squarely across the front bumper, while the poor ol' timer had to put up with a car driven right into the driver's seat from the quarter. Where's the comparison to that? I wonder how the new Malibu would have fared if it had been hit by the Bel Aire at the same angles as in their test? jes' wonderin' thanks for lis'nin' seekertom ps, I DO agree that newer cars are made better and safer, btw!
If it's American Tax-payer dollars funding it, please spend the money on American soil, using American companies, American technology, and of course, American workers! thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
I agree with your sentiments. We have allowed our govts to become monsters, and whether by design or by failure, they have come far, to totally undo us. But what can we expect from people who vote for such as we have? There are lots of folks out there who really live by two credos:1) Don't confuse me with the facts... my mind's made up! and 2) I'd rather die in hell than let someone show me I'm wrong about anything! Don't count on any of them making things better. I try to talk to lots of folks, but most are still unwilling to believe that NASTY things can, and WILL happen to us, very soon! Some day enough little folks will wake up and realize how bad it really is, and do the open window and scream 'I'm mad as hell and I won't take it any more...' trick. It'll be a revolution. I do hope not a violent one. I'd like to see one where our elected officials, if for no other reason than because they want to keep their jobs, begin to serve us, and not live their lives as if they are the rulers and we are the subjects. As for me, let the idiots in power repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot and continue doing harm to freedom. One day, either we will wake up or they will. thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
I clicked on the 'mirror' link and saw the two scenes, top with a black guy at the table, lower with a white guy's head. However, clicking on the link above the lower pic brought me to the polish site, and the pic there has not been altered. Maybe I'm wrong, but looks like the slashdotters have been hoodwinked, and ms really didn't do the dasterdly deed at all! Corrections humbly accepted if offered.... thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
Again, you said it... 70 years the same story. Why has it not changed? I believe it's because we really don't see/believe the tyrannie, and besides that, we're not unhappy enough with our circumstances to move to change things, yet. I don't believe progress means watching the pendulum swing back and forth and that's how things get 'fixed'. Consider this... in a heartbeat, we have been handed (we never asked for it) jobs lost due to outsourcing and un-balance of trade agreements, illegal aliens up the gazoo, and the govt handing out billions to business executives with absolutely no oversight to the distribution of same. None of these things are the results of any pendulum swing, and the pendulum won't fix the damage already done. It's up to the folks like you and I who bitch and complain, and help each other keep our thoughts on track, to make the difference. We've gotta stand up and decide what we want, and then go for it. Me? I want America returned to the American people. I don't want any more 'they' are the rulers and 'we' are the indentured servants. Democracy is a responsibility. I think we have shirked that responsibility for too long. We need to begin monitoring congress more closely, and keep them in line. No more fleece, no more pork, no more gold-service for them. As for the time frame, I only used the 20 year figure thinking it was in both our lifetimes of personal experience. We've both seen better in some aspects of life, worse in others, but do we really need to be bounced back and forth? Is it unreasonable to want a statement of purpose that we can agree on and follow it? (wasn't the Declaration of Independence just that?) Do we all want to be part of the 'new world order'? Why don't we get to vote on such radical changes to our way of life? thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
Well said, and well felt. However, I'm not talking about absurdity, only working on the fact that corruption is still corruption even though laws protect it. As far as folks 'hating' govt officials, look around you and tell me you are PROUD of them and their behavior. As for our Constitution, I think there have been so many laws, bills and words enacted that its true meaning has been significantly altered, and not always in our favor! Isn't it true that the Supreme Court 'Interprets' the law? And a liberal court acts liberally etc etc? And aren't they chosen by the same govt that many of us are ashamed of and do not trust? Actually, I missed the point of WHY the gal did her deed. It makes a difference. Was she one of the druggies who got caught and she's seeking revenge, or was she an innocent bystander who got mauled and wants to expose the weakness of the undercover system? I don't want to be able to holler 'fire' in a movie theater, but when I see a bad guy doing bad things, I DO want to be able to let the world know what I've seen, and maybe let the world judge who's wrong. Your heart is in the right place, but I hope you do not let idealism shield you from reality. The world, our beautiful America ain't what she used ta be, and we need to decide which direction she goes from here out. As for me, if ya can't play your cards on the table, move out of the room, please. thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
What you said is exactly my point... laws have been passed to legalize activities, but these are activities that most of us learned in grade school or sunday school were wrong. But we've been led to believe that the ends justify the means, so pass a law and that makes it ok. But my problem is this.... there WILL be laws, there most likely already ARE laws that G. Orwell would be proud of, and we won't like. Now what? Too late to stop the steamroller? As for checks and balances, if both sides of the balance-beam are playing the same game, then what? Are YOU happy with the way things are and have been going the past 20 years? Some things are right, but they are illegal. Some things are wrong and they are legal. thanks for lis'nin' sertom
We always have alternatives, but not always the incentive to seek them out. I've been using w98se for as long as it's been out and things have been working out fine for me. It works for me. I have it installed on a dozen or more pcs. I still get the same work done now as I did years ago, actually more, with faster pcs. True, the rest of the world is forging ahead, expensively, I might add, but think about it... if no one bought vista, they'd be still getting the work done with their original os, and maybe, just maybe, MS might have noticed the crap still on the shelves and then worked to put together a better package at a more reasonable price. Unfortunately, we are not yet at the tipping point of techy revolt. If we were so inclined, we'd fund a group of nerds to do the job right, in the first place, and deliver the message to the big boys that we are so-over the herd mentality ( I thought Linux was supposed to do that? Or apple... I'd buy an Apple, if I could afford one....). But not yet. We'll probably wait until folks like MS and USG have all our money, and we'll have no more for them to extract. And we'll have nothing left to buy the next un-working version of whatever. So they will probably sell it to someone who has all the money, and it will continue. Things endure either because of their quality or because of our stupiditity. Thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
"Why are you directing this at Republicans when Democrats have a veto and filibuster proof control of the entire government?" For my 2 cents... ALL govt activities are the results of BOTH PARTIES working in collusion (hope that's the right word). NOTHING is ever done in dc unless BOTH PARTIES want it, in spite of how they try to play the blame-card for the public's consumption. America will be a far better place when we ALL recognize this and do something to change it, like maybe firing all the players and starting up a new team! thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
We pay according to goods actually received...I love it! c'mon over and run for prez! thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
"Thank you for your interest in how the federal government is spending its money and we hope you enjoy USAspending.gov " I went to the website USAspending.gov, as linked in the slashdot article on govt/technology. The above is the last line in the show.... "ITS" money?????? I always thought it was OUR money the fg was spending! Was this a slip of the tongue or a tongue-in-cheek statement? thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
"Security through obscurity" in this case, I think refers to folks hiding their identities today so they can go out and catch another bad guy tomorrow, and that's what is supposed to make us feel secure... that we see the bad guys getting caught. (But the dirty-pool game doesn't bother us enough... yet!) I think we watch too much tv, if we believe that this approach to society is valid in America. But we do need to take a stand, all of us. Do we accept or not, any and all underhanded activities of govt officials put forth because the ends justify the means? Or, do we stand under the constitution and do what's right, even when it hurts? When things go badly, and someone gets caught doing the wrong thing, 'everyone' gets vocal about 'what is the country coming to', yet I'm afraid there are way too many of us who applaud the same dirty tricks when they 'get the job done'. So which USA do you want to live in, the clean one or the dirty one? thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
You sound like you would drop the constitution in a heartbeat if someone convinced you it was in the interest of protecting some govt official. Gotta love them cops, but this is not about them cops... it's about us folks getting tired of seeing all the govt can do to us while they set themselves up as above the law. If they want public info, they must also live by the public info. Yes, sir, it IS about the 1st amendment (and all the others, too) and equal rights under the law. And it is about equality of all Americans, including govt officials. The law is for all of us. Question for ya: what do you call a form of govt where that govt is above the law, and the laws are strictly for controlling the populace? thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
put a dollar value on what was 'stolen'. now look at what bernie madoff stole and compare the two. to have equal justice based on harm done, i guess maybe instead of prison, bernie should have been drawn and quartered in a public place or cooked slowly over an open pit on the front lawn of the white house... that would be a deterrent, wouldn't it? (psst... hint... we don't do that in America, do we?) yes, the punishment ought to fit the crime. unfortunately, it doesn't always, and when there's conflict of interest involved, it's usually the wrong decision. i wonder what you think we should have done with bill clinton and his defilement of the oral office, or lying to congress? (or didn't that happen?) thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
yes,I agree with what you said. I suppose the real issue is this... someone is stepping up to the plate to act as our 'protector', and we don't like it. However, the implied consent of the ticket forms a contract, and unless we can prove it unlawful or invalid, I agree, it sticks. How many other things in our society are like this? Give me something I really like or want or need and place so many controls and restrictions on it that I get crap on my candy, or, I just don't take the candy. Does it sound like the fine print in the credit card agreements? We, as Americans, need to get a grip and decide what we really want in life. Take the candy with the crap on it or don't. It's our choice. Just do it with open eyes and don't bitch when the constitution is gone. thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
I wonder how you might respond to this.... my house, my yard, are areas of the world that I and most others would believe to be 'private property', not public in any way, shape or form. Yet photos on Google Maps have presented a view of my privacy to the entire world. Do you believe that I have no right to control such invasions? If you believe that this is ok because it's a matter of 'what's visible' from a public place, the street, then would it also be ok for the goodyear blimp to fly above the bm event, take all kindza pics and sell them to the highest bidder. Would you mind if your pics went on the internet like that? Besides that, what if you bought a ticket to Disney World... and what if Disney said they, not you, owned the photos you took of your wife and kids, just because Mickey was in the background? I don't have answers. only questions. Thanks for lis'nin' seekertom
Another point of view.... I watch netflix shows on my laptop. I seldom watch my cable-powered tv. Why? It's because of all the fk$%^kg commercials! Years ago, we had ota tv, funded by commercial sponsors. That seemed reasonable. Then came along paid subscription tv, cable tv, and it was supposed to give us commercial-free tv, since the service was paid for directly by the consumer, not the commercial advertisers. However, corporate greed intervened and after market share was gained, the rules changed and commercials crept in to cable tv, slowly at first, but eventually ending up with more commercial than content like we have now! What's worse, so many of the commercials are advertising the damn show in progress! How stoopit is that? Point is, get rid of the heavy load of commercial interruptions and I'll go back to watching tv again. Sounds like competition working in favor of the consumer, but if the isps are legally allowed to block or interfere with my netflix shows, they effectively eliminate competion, and that sure as heck ain't the American way! Thanks for lis'nin' seekertom