Figures that an unemployed, unemployable AC would make a remark like that.
Troll. Someone in *your* world tells you that he's getting hate directed towards him because his an Asian, and you just write him off as an unemployed AC?
How 'bout I write you off as a teenaged troll fuck?
Did this REALLY need to be posted the day before Sep 11? No mention on/. of the brave firefighters who perished that day, or the other thousands of innocent people who died. Just someone griping because they think someone is going to take their precious internet anonymity away. Jackass.
Ok dude , where to begin.... First of all, I lost a cousin in S11, and he was a NYPD cop. So does that mean that we should not discuss the issues? Better just rally round that ol' flag huh? HOLY FUCK! What are we thinking? The president is FUDing to the *MAX* about sending young 18 year old boys to,potentially, there death in Iraq, and no we cant discuss it because it's september 11?
Keep that line of thinking AC , big brother loves YOU!
Has anyone else seen the Anti-Drug commercials saying that by buying drugs we help terrorists. This angers me since every sack I ever bought has been straight from Mexico.
Yup. And do you know what the worst thing is?
Even discussing this sort of stuff can get one branded as "unpatriotic" or "insensitive". Having worked in the media , it was clear that a HUGE chilling effect came over it, even over here in australia.
Whereas we SHOULD ask questions like "Hey , is this interference in the mid east part of the cause of S/11. Why where we funding the taliban?", we havent been asking that, because any given question can be answered with "SHH! WHERE FIGHTING TERRORISTS! BOW YOUR HEAD IN SHAME!"
And the cycle goes on... And get's nuttier too. Questioning govt anti-hacker legislation can get one branded as "un-patriotic". ditto for fcking phone tapping legislation, drug legislation, camp X-ray legislation..... Any questioning is..... "unpatriotic"
So maybe we should give up , hey guys?... Freedom of speech is dead in the water. MIA.
Those founding fathers would not be impressed with a president who claims "There should be limits to freedom". (Rant ends here)
Is there a port of Midnight Commander for OSX? I've found that on the linux server I run, I've setup MC for dudes who get baffled by the command line, and they love it. It's a ripper for the point and click crew.
INTEROPERABILITY!!!!!! I maintain a site that has , a linux server, a coupla win pcs, a coupla linbox pc's and a shiteload of macs. One of the biggest problem is the mac's reliance on metadata to determain filetype. Far too often I've had one of the graphic designer fluffheads panic because the've saved , like, 1000 jpegs with no.jpg extension and it works fine on the macs, and as soon as it ends up on the linboxen or pcs the said machines just don't know where to start. Short of apache developing a mod to look in the.AppleDouble nests to find the right mime type, it just is a pain in the arse. 3 letter file types solve this whole metadata problem perfectly. It's a perfectly good idea.
Yeah. It certainly is. If you've ever done embedded work before and found oneself subject to the cosmic horror that is slaying $500 worth of flash hardware because the kernel configs made a booboo one will realise just how fantastic ESR's theorem checking autoconfigurator would of been. What a shame it's been beaten off by the anti-python mob.Stupid stupid stupid.
Sure, although given a suitable fitness criteria (such as both 'getting it' and whatever the 'learning' process entails) that can be shortened drastically. I think the key inovation here is the reproduction of social constructed-ness of interaction and behaviour. An agent sees itself as part of a group and thus follows the discourses entailed in it. I think this a highly exciting idea and I am indeed interested to see how this works. I for one thought black and white's AI worked marvelously.
Or maybe television, that would be fun; Touched by an Angel or Seventh Heaven special edition on DVD. Add a shotgunning here, a shower scene there, redub the characters with sound-alikes who utter a profanity every sentence...
Angel woman:I think it's time you learned that I was an Angel
Sad Guy:Holy FuCK!
It's a funny thing. I'm buddies with a few comic book artists, and most start off by copying favorite characters, Dredd, Xmen, Lobo, Jonny homicidal maniac or whatever. Over time however the originality kicks in and the artist starts developing original styles and characters. I suspect theres a degree of this here. The daughter may be a comic nut at an early stage of artistic development. Just kinda using photoshop or sumfin for tools. Still pretty lame tho , and yeah MIT can afford to pay royalties for this one.
Oh yeah, now tell me, how are you going to host 700 websites on a machine with 699 IP addresses? Oh, you need one more? What a shame, I'm already using the one you're missing to host all of my 700 sites! It's called virtual hosts.
Ok... Now you've lost me. Here I am still marvelling on how I've managed to host a whole buncha websites with diff domain names on my one IP adress, and you throw this curve ball at me telling me it's because I've not used up my 699 IP adresses, all of which just happen to be the same. Trippy dude.... Verrry trippy. And I thought that the virtual host section on that nutty old Apache server just wanted diff dns listings.
And I still don't get how this ties in to the original post. Or for that matter how google *would* replace DNS?
Damn right. Some time ago, It really struck me that the traditional meaning of.com and.org etc as meaning "usa";- (1)seemed to me real unfair to overseas folk because our tld's where second level really, or (2)unfair to US folk because it hid the identity of US entitys. Ultimately it's actually (2) that seems prevelant because no tld represents "multinational" and yeah theres no common use USA tld. Ie microsoft.com.us or whitehouse.gov.us . international bodies should perhaps get a amnesty.org.in or un.org.in (Or for a rofl for conspiracy heads un.gov.in)
You might just be onto something bucko..... Consider. You build a GA to start fucking around with DVD protection , say with the aim of maximising some sorta criteria (minimum 'noise' max sine waves or sumfin). And let it rip. The resulting algorithm (A) has NO reference to an existing method, it is random. At best the existing algorithm can be intentionaly divined simply as "GA". (B) The program has no intentional purpose, it could be utterly said that it was not created for copyright infringement unless the court was prepared to accept that a software algorithm was (1) capapble of forming an intention and (2) knew wrong from right thus (3) being responsible for its action. (C) That of course implies that the software would be sued , as no human "willed" it to do it, really.
Boing. Lose a point. The calendaring and like are damn usefull , particularly in service industries. It's a handy thing having the girls at the front desk take an apointment for me and drop it straight on my calendar. Too easy, never lets me down. Except that I loathe ms:(
That is a radical claim your making there! But hey if it's true.... YipEEEE! Let's force that bitch to GPL and finally get an open source WEAPON against the Ms/exchange beast. Oh yeah. Mod that post up. It's important.
Brilliant idea. Note the loud *HINT* *HINT* REDHAT!.... MANDRAKE?
Seriously if redhat want to do something truly clever, buy that damned bynari server software, hook it up with that redhat supertweaked pgsql and napalm the corporate "back office" exchange/ms sql market.
The whole thing looks pretty simple to me, maybe a mail handler of sort (tweezle exim or something into it), something that drops mail into a db, structure that db tree like with acl's and all. An auth method, and an XML-RPC (or soap) interface. Add calendars, todo's and toys to suit. Write an Outlook interface and go nuts. And while I'm at it phpgroupware has an xml-rpc AND a soap interface (if I remember rightly the xml-rpc had some sort of haxor auth/session type hack in it) so one just needs to write some code to interface it to outlook and BlAMO! Instant exchange clone.
Shouldn't we all be cooperating after September 11, 2001?
I understand your sentiment, but dude, exploiting S11 for argument points is a little off colour, I lost a cousin on that bitch of a day, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels a little uncomfortable with the way it's bandied about as a justification for, like, everything.I'm not going at you tho , I just needed to say that. As to the original point , I guess a co-op model offers some sorta accountability/redress over being screwed over. The difference, is that a corporation exists to serve it's share holders, a co-op exists to serve it's members. It's an ideological thing as well, in that it's a friendly demonstration of the anarch-syndical concept. Sorta.
Big stakes fighting huh? I've got an idea for em. You may not be able to do this over in the USA, but in Australia we have a legal concept where you can get someone suing you declared a "Vexatious Littigant". Basically if a littigant has a history of launching huge amounts of fucked up lawsuits, one can get them declared a vexatious littigant ("habitually suing asshole") to strangle off all the stupid lawsuits and wasting good court time
Imagine if RIAA and the move guys where declared vexatious. That'd hose em sommething bad. But again, IANAL, so it's just a guess.
Microsoft , to it's credit, seemed to make a concious effort to make sure it's API's remined consistently backwards over time. DLL's from microsoft, (notable exceptions.. Fucking wang/kodak imaging library, grrrr) can be updated without too high likelyhood of slaying previous versions of software.
Unfortunately the haphazzard linux update cycle has tended to mean that one needs the correct libraries for each expected invokation (eg ver 6.7 AND 6.8 rather than just 6.8).
Think KDE here. That's where the magic of debians apt stuff kicks in. The program really does not much except maintain a well pruned dependancy tree and make sure that libs are there (and autogets them if necesarrily), the magic is that Debian lords with an iron fist over packagers and make sure that package descriptions list EXACTLY what is needed. I have no doubt that apt & RPM are a groovy enough combo, but one still depends on a central body to enforce strict rules to enforce compliance.
With out that, dependancy-fucking your box hasn't gone away, it's just become automatic.
As way of analogy, it reminds me of the forrest blockade demonstrations in western australia. For nearly 20 years, the rather rightious cause of not killing the forrest was fought by greenies in dreadlocks, wierd wool, tatters and threads. Then around 97/98 the conservative world got interested. A woman with the name dame xxxx (insert correct name, I cant remember!!!!!), basically a founder of the wa liberal party, and sister veronica, a catholic nun, did a "lock on" , which basically is your locking onto a tree to stop loggers from killing it vibe. After 20 years sudenly the media was interested, and a year later, finally the scientific community finally was listened to and we saved those old karri stands. Geek activism at it's most primordial. I guess what I'm trying to say is, via analogy, despite our wierd headed tendency to get all anti-ms (right on!) and pro-free and what not. It's the eric raymonds, the orators, the suits , flutes and not absolutes in our community that will win this fight. Guys & Gals, finally we have a *real* O/S on our hands, after years of puting our hands over our eyes and saying "make it true" , KDE3 / kernel 2.5, gnome making sense , and all of that, we got there. Let's not let our ideology ruin it. Truth stands on it's own two feet.
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Oh dude Sorry!... The moderation filter unlinked your comment from the original. I thought you where hassling out the unemployed asian guy.
Could someone please mod down my original comment.(The one where I call h4x0r-3l337 a teenage troll)
Figures that an unemployed, unemployable AC would make a remark like that.
Troll. Someone in *your* world tells you that he's getting hate directed towards him because his an Asian, and you just write him off as an unemployed AC?
How 'bout I write you off as a teenaged troll fuck?
Did this REALLY need to be posted the day before Sep 11? No mention on /. of the brave firefighters who perished that day, or the other thousands of innocent people who died. Just someone griping because they think someone is going to take their precious internet anonymity away. Jackass.
,potentially, there death in Iraq, and no we cant discuss it because it's september 11?
Ok dude , where to begin.... First of all, I lost a cousin in S11, and he was a NYPD cop. So does that mean that we should not discuss the issues? Better just rally round that ol' flag huh? HOLY FUCK! What are we thinking? The president is FUDing to the *MAX* about sending young 18 year old boys to
Keep that line of thinking AC , big brother loves YOU!
Has anyone else seen the Anti-Drug commercials saying that by buying drugs we help terrorists. This angers me since every sack I ever bought has been straight from Mexico.
Yup. And do you know what the worst thing is?
Even discussing this sort of stuff can get one branded as "unpatriotic" or "insensitive". Having worked in the media , it was clear that a HUGE chilling effect came over it, even over here in australia.
Whereas we SHOULD ask questions like "Hey , is this interference in the mid east part of the cause of S/11. Why where we funding the taliban?", we havent been asking that, because any given question can be answered with "SHH! WHERE FIGHTING TERRORISTS! BOW YOUR HEAD IN SHAME!"
And the cycle goes on... And get's nuttier too. Questioning govt anti-hacker legislation can get one branded as "un-patriotic". ditto for fcking phone tapping legislation, drug legislation, camp X-ray legislation..... Any questioning is..... "unpatriotic"
So maybe we should give up , hey guys?... Freedom of speech is dead in the water. MIA.
Those founding fathers would not be impressed with a president who claims "There should be limits to freedom". (Rant ends here)
Is there a port of Midnight Commander for OSX? I've found that on the linux server I run, I've setup MC for dudes who get baffled by the command line, and they love it. It's a ripper for the point and click crew.
My fiance needs OS 9 still for Quark, Illustrator, Photoshop and all the other essentials tools that she needs....
One could allways warez them... Not that I'd advocate such a thing...
Oh.. Mod me down.
INTEROPERABILITY!!!!!! .jpg extension and it works fine on the macs, and as soon as it ends up on the linboxen or pcs the said machines just don't know where to start. .AppleDouble nests to find the right mime type, it just is a pain in the arse.
I maintain a site that has , a linux server, a coupla win pcs, a coupla linbox pc's and a shiteload of macs.
One of the biggest problem is the mac's reliance on metadata to determain filetype.
Far too often I've had one of the graphic designer fluffheads panic because the've saved , like, 1000 jpegs with no
Short of apache developing a mod to look in the
3 letter file types solve this whole metadata problem perfectly.
It's a perfectly good idea.
Yeah. It certainly is. If you've ever done embedded work before and found oneself subject to the cosmic horror that is slaying $500 worth of flash hardware because the kernel configs made a booboo one will realise just how fantastic ESR's theorem checking autoconfigurator would of been. What a shame it's been beaten off by the anti-python mob.Stupid stupid stupid.
Sure, although given a suitable fitness criteria (such as both 'getting it' and whatever the 'learning' process entails) that can be shortened drastically.
I think the key inovation here is the reproduction of social constructed-ness of interaction and behaviour. An agent sees itself as part of a group and thus follows the discourses entailed in it.
I think this a highly exciting idea and I am indeed interested to see how this works. I for one thought black and white's AI worked marvelously.
Or maybe television, that would be fun; Touched by an Angel or Seventh Heaven special edition on DVD. Add a shotgunning here, a shower scene there, redub the characters with sound-alikes who utter a profanity every sentence...
Angel woman:I think it's time you learned that I was an Angel
Sad Guy:Holy FuCK!
It's a funny thing. I'm buddies with a few comic book artists, and most start off by copying favorite characters, Dredd, Xmen, Lobo, Jonny homicidal maniac or whatever. Over time however the originality kicks in and the artist starts developing original styles and characters. I suspect theres a degree of this here. The daughter may be a comic nut at an early stage of artistic development. Just kinda using photoshop or sumfin for tools. Still pretty lame tho , and yeah MIT can afford to pay royalties for this one.
Oh yeah, now tell me, how are you going to host 700 websites on a machine with 699 IP addresses? Oh, you need one more? What a shame, I'm already using the one you're missing to host all of my 700 sites! It's called virtual hosts.
Ok... Now you've lost me. Here I am still marvelling on how I've managed to host a whole buncha websites with diff domain names on my one IP adress, and you throw this curve ball at me telling me it's because I've not used up my 699 IP adresses, all of which just happen to be the same. Trippy dude.... Verrry trippy. And I thought that the virtual host section on that nutty old Apache server just wanted diff dns listings.
And I still don't get how this ties in to the original post. Or for that matter how google *would* replace DNS?
Damn right. Some time ago, It really struck me that the traditional meaning of .com and .org etc as meaning "usa" ;-
(1)seemed to me real unfair to overseas folk because our tld's where second level really, or
(2)unfair to US folk because it hid the identity of US entitys.
Ultimately it's actually (2) that seems prevelant because no tld represents "multinational" and yeah theres no common use USA tld. Ie microsoft.com.us or whitehouse.gov.us . international bodies should perhaps get a amnesty.org.in or un.org.in (Or for a rofl for conspiracy heads un.gov.in)
You might just be onto something bucko.....
Consider. You build a GA to start fucking around with DVD protection , say with the aim of maximising some sorta criteria (minimum 'noise' max sine waves or sumfin). And let it rip.
The resulting algorithm (A) has NO reference to an existing method, it is random. At best the existing algorithm can be intentionaly divined simply as "GA". (B) The program has no intentional purpose, it could be utterly said that it was not created for copyright infringement unless the court was prepared to accept that a software algorithm was (1) capapble of forming an intention and (2) knew wrong from right thus (3) being responsible for its action. (C) That of course implies that the software would be sued , as no human "willed" it to do it, really.
Boing. Lose a point. The calendaring and like are damn usefull , particularly in service industries. It's a handy thing having the girls at the front desk take an apointment for me and drop it straight on my calendar. Too easy, never lets me down. :(
Except that I loathe ms
That is a radical claim your making there!
But hey if it's true.... YipEEEE! Let's force that bitch to GPL and finally get an open source WEAPON against the Ms/exchange beast.
Oh yeah. Mod that post up. It's important.
Brilliant idea. Note the loud *HINT* *HINT* REDHAT!.... MANDRAKE?
Seriously if redhat want to do something truly clever, buy that damned bynari server software, hook it up with that redhat supertweaked pgsql and napalm the corporate "back office" exchange/ms sql market.
The whole thing looks pretty simple to me, maybe a mail handler of sort (tweezle exim or something into it), something that drops mail into a db, structure that db tree like with acl's and all. An auth method, and an XML-RPC (or soap) interface. Add calendars, todo's and toys to suit.
Write an Outlook interface and go nuts.
And while I'm at it phpgroupware has an xml-rpc AND a soap interface (if I remember rightly the xml-rpc had some sort of haxor auth/session type hack in it) so one just needs to write some code to interface it to outlook and BlAMO! Instant exchange clone.
Shouldn't we all be cooperating after September 11, 2001?
I understand your sentiment, but dude, exploiting S11 for argument points is a little off colour, I lost a cousin on that bitch of a day, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels a little uncomfortable with the way it's bandied about as a justification for, like, everything.I'm not going at you tho , I just needed to say that.
As to the original point , I guess a co-op model offers some sorta accountability/redress over being screwed over. The difference, is that a corporation exists to serve it's share holders, a co-op exists to serve it's members. It's an ideological thing as well, in that it's a friendly demonstration of the anarch-syndical concept. Sorta.
Yeah? But unlike brix The Radio Shack didn't have a brightness knob embedded in it's web page. Only in the monitor. ;)
You *know* this is gonna be a slick OS when the webpage has a "brightness adjuster".
Dude! Now you've just doubled that slashdotting effect with everyone jumpin' over there to check out the brightness adjuster widget.
Big stakes fighting huh? I've got an idea for em. You may not be able to do this over in the USA, but in Australia we have a legal concept where you can get someone suing you declared a "Vexatious Littigant". Basically if a littigant has a history of launching huge amounts of fucked up lawsuits, one can get them declared a vexatious littigant ("habitually suing asshole") to strangle off all the stupid lawsuits and wasting good court time
Imagine if RIAA and the move guys where declared vexatious. That'd hose em sommething bad.
But again, IANAL, so it's just a guess.
Microsoft , to it's credit, seemed to make a concious effort to make sure it's API's remined consistently backwards over time. DLL's from microsoft, (notable exceptions.. Fucking wang/kodak imaging library, grrrr) can be updated without too high likelyhood of slaying previous versions of software.
Unfortunately the haphazzard linux update cycle has tended to mean that one needs the correct libraries for each expected invokation (eg ver 6.7 AND 6.8 rather than just 6.8).
Think KDE here.
That's where the magic of debians apt stuff kicks in. The program really does not much except maintain a well pruned dependancy tree and make sure that libs are there (and autogets them if necesarrily), the magic is that Debian lords with an iron fist over packagers and make sure that package descriptions list EXACTLY what is needed. I have no doubt that apt & RPM are a groovy enough combo, but one still depends on a central body to enforce strict rules to enforce compliance.
With out that, dependancy-fucking your box hasn't gone away, it's just become automatic.
As way of analogy, it reminds me of the forrest blockade demonstrations in western australia. For nearly 20 years, the rather rightious cause of not killing the forrest was fought by greenies in dreadlocks, wierd wool, tatters and threads. Then around 97/98 the conservative world got interested. A woman with the name dame xxxx (insert correct name, I cant remember!!!!!), basically a founder of the wa liberal party, and sister veronica, a catholic nun, did a "lock on" , which basically is your locking onto a tree to stop loggers from killing it vibe.
After 20 years sudenly the media was interested, and a year later, finally the scientific community finally was listened to and we saved those old karri stands. Geek activism at it's most primordial.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, via analogy, despite our wierd headed tendency to get all anti-ms (right on!) and pro-free and what not. It's the eric raymonds, the orators, the suits , flutes and not absolutes in our community that will win this fight.
Guys & Gals, finally we have a *real* O/S on our hands, after years of puting our hands over our eyes and saying "make it true" , KDE3 / kernel 2.5, gnome making sense , and all of that, we got there.
Let's not let our ideology ruin it. Truth stands on it's own two feet.
I'd prefer a helicopter personally.