Well, I don't want to be a muggenzifter (nitpicker), but just try CTRL-C in Microsoft's own paint program; it doesn't copy anything, it toggles the colorbar on or off. (Yeah, yeah I know, who uses this program...:)
I agree with you on the part of not targeting the Linux platform. I disagree with you on the 'one look & feel' in Windows. Maybe that's the case on Mac's, but certainly not in Windows. First of all Microsoft changes it's GUI quite often, but not all of their applications follow those rules. Just look at the differences in GUI within Office. And not I'm just talking about Microsoft's own applications. Nowadays more and more software suppliers develop their own GUI's within an application.
Yeah, from a technological point of view it's usefull to work in different directions. But from a user's point of view, why all these desktops? I think there's not enough energy spent on interfaces that differ from the WIMP GUI.
Maybe it's about time to start a website called yawi.org, whereby yawi stands for Yet Another WIMP Interface. I'm not just trying to be negative, and I know that choice is good, but all in all I think that too much choice is not good. I think that too much time, effort and energy is wasted on too many things that are more or less the same. All those desktops, and they are all alike. When trying to get Linux promoted to a greater audience, maybe a site that can show people the way in the ever growing desktop-forrest is a good idea. But my main argument is that it *should not* be necessary.
A quick scan of chapter one seems to learn that Oracle itself doesn't do
anything Open Source, except supplying Oratcl, a scripting tool.. So it's all
about what *other* people do concerning open source and Oracle compared to what
Oracle itself is doing in Open source. The last part can be easily answered: not
a lot, except the already mentioned Oratcl and porting Oracle 8i to Linux (but
not free and open source I presume).
Well, there's a difference between being paranoid and realistic. We have privacy laws here, but law enforcement is a different story alltogether. This law provides in the right to have an insight in the data the government or a company have about you. If you want to use that right, and actually try to see the data, you're reminded of the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy: "Of course you can look in to the plans, they are in a locked cabinet in the unlit basement, behind a door which says 'beware of the tiger'". I actually tried to gather some information, and soon found out that it's easier to go through a brick wall by running very hard into it. So tell me again, am I paranoid of realistic?
Yep, the government is even advertising for this: "The Netherlands go digital" (Nederland gaat digitaal). It seems to me that the Dutch government is profiling itself to be as renewing as possible, they try to be a trendsetter whenever possible: like in legalizing softdrugs, prostitution, euthanasia etc..
Disclaimer: I'm Dutch, and not very happy with this plan.
From the perspective of efficiency it may be a good idea, but from the
perspective of theft, misuse and privacy it's perhaps one of the most stupid
ideas I've ever heard of. It's funny though that after fifty years the Dutch are
planning to centralize their data again (not storing data in one central
location is a leftover from WW II. The Germans could lay their hands on all
public records in an matter of hours or days, and the Dutch government vowed to
not let that happen ever again)
Anyhow, if the public can have a say in this, they are not going to have my
vote!
Shouldn't there be a sort of consistency among the different applications used within one GUI. Before you know it, we are back in the 'goold' old DOS day, where every application was setting it's own standards (remember WordPerfect?). These gestures would only be nice if they were an integral part of the GUI, and thus useable for all applications.
I agree with the largest part of your reply, except for this:
"Security holes are only an issue because of the damn hackers.
Hacker: 'Hey, we're helping you exposing security holes so you can fix them'.
Dude: 'And why should we fix the holes?.' Hacker: 'Um uh. To protect you from us.'"
There are enough proven cases in which information, creditcard numbers for
example, was stolen. I wouldn't be very happy if people broke into my machines,
but I could live with it if I knew if it was only for the 'sport of it'.Unfortunately
it happens too often that information is stolen, and therefore it is necessary
to fix holes. I think it is a bit too easy to compare hackers with criminals.
So they plan to wipe out Telford on on Oct 16 2023, but "The impact
would be accurate to within a few hundred miles...". So it's also very
well possible that they miss England alltogether? Sounds like a good, well
thought out, plan to me **chuckles**.
Well, there's always something called freedom of speech; it's not up to the
German minister go around on the internet like a real hauptstormbahnfuhrer, and
blocking all sites that he doesn't like. The only way to deal with these
situations is through the proper international legal channels, no country should
be their own judge in these matters. I mean what would be next:
Islamitic countries blocking access to christian websites
Christian countries blocking Islamitic sites
McDonalds blocking access to websites with hamburger recipes
Good call.. I even think that there are quite a few number of people saying that "..they always thought that Linux and Open source would never actually work; it's all about money and advertisement you little boys, go home and play!".:(
Well, according to those scientists, the first effects of the oncoming ice age would be notable within one or two decades. So if they're right, start buying warm underwear:)
Yep, that would be the same theory allright. It talked about the reduced 'pumping effect' in the area of Greenland (colder water sinks and it transported back to the caribean, to be replaced by warmer water). They said that this effect was measurably diminishing, and we could have another ice age on our hands. The big question is if humaity is causing all this, or are we just adding to an already present natural effect? This last assumption is not so strange - we have had quite a number of ice ages already. All the environmentalists are yelling that we are the cause of all this, but they easily forget the fact that there is natural occuring pattern of heating up and cooling down. Maybe humanity is a bit too arrogant to think that they are the *only* cause
A while ago I saw a documentory about global heating, and about the effect it could have on ice ages. They argued that the heating up of the earth caused the flow of warmer water from the gulf of mexico to the north pole. This warmer water 'holds the ice back'; if the warm water flow diminishes, the ice forming will not be held back, and we would have a new ice age, despite the fact that the earth was heating up. Does anybody know more about this?
In an ideal world you are right; however in this universe things are looking rather different. An application will needs all sorts of 'handles' and code to embed GUI parts & functionality. I personally don't want IE to embed Word when I download a document, just smack it on the disk and I'll deal with it later; I also don't want in-document Excel editing, but the functionality is there and hogs the application. But I think it has all got to do with the average Joe being able to use his computer without too much of a hassle, so we will have to put up with it:(
I don't know how privacy regulations are in the USA, but I do know we have privacy laws here in the Netherlands. If they actually *work* is a completely different story. Companies *must* give you insight in data they haven on you, but in reality it is almost impossible to track down what information the do have on you. I have tried this with a few companies: I was constantly being put on hold, talked with a lot of different people, and nobody knew anything. One company could tell me that they regularly bought personal data from 'another' company, but they couldn't which one. So you can have all the laws and regulations thath you want, but what companies do with your information is quite something else!
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Well, I don't want to be a muggenzifter (nitpicker), but just try CTRL-C in Microsoft's own paint program; it doesn't copy anything, it toggles the colorbar on or off. (Yeah, yeah I know, who uses this program...:)
I agree with you on the part of not targeting the Linux platform. I disagree with you on the 'one look & feel' in Windows. Maybe that's the case on Mac's, but certainly not in Windows. First of all Microsoft changes it's GUI quite often, but not all of their applications follow those rules. Just look at the differences in GUI within Office. And not I'm just talking about Microsoft's own applications. Nowadays more and more software suppliers develop their own GUI's within an application.
Yeah, from a technological point of view it's usefull to work in different directions. But from a user's point of view, why all these desktops? I think there's not enough energy spent on interfaces that differ from the WIMP GUI.
Maybe it's about time to start a website called yawi.org, whereby yawi stands for Yet Another WIMP Interface. I'm not just trying to be negative, and I know that choice is good, but all in all I think that too much choice is not good. I think that too much time, effort and energy is wasted on too many things that are more or less the same. All those desktops, and they are all alike. When trying to get Linux promoted to a greater audience, maybe a site that can show people the way in the ever growing desktop-forrest is a good idea. But my main argument is that it *should not* be necessary.
A quick scan of chapter one seems to learn that Oracle itself doesn't do anything Open Source, except supplying Oratcl, a scripting tool.. So it's all about what *other* people do concerning open source and Oracle compared to what Oracle itself is doing in Open source. The last part can be easily answered: not a lot, except the already mentioned Oratcl and porting Oracle 8i to Linux (but not free and open source I presume).
Well, there's a difference between being paranoid and realistic. We have privacy laws here, but law enforcement is a different story alltogether. This law provides in the right to have an insight in the data the government or a company have about you. If you want to use that right, and actually try to see the data, you're reminded of the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy: "Of course you can look in to the plans, they are in a locked cabinet in the unlit basement, behind a door which says 'beware of the tiger'". I actually tried to gather some information, and soon found out that it's easier to go through a brick wall by running very hard into it. So tell me again, am I paranoid of realistic?
That would probably be our fearsome leader Wim Kok (no pun intended :)
Yep, the government is even advertising for this: "The Netherlands go digital" (Nederland gaat digitaal). It seems to me that the Dutch government is profiling itself to be as renewing as possible, they try to be a trendsetter whenever possible: like in legalizing softdrugs, prostitution, euthanasia etc..
Disclaimer: I'm Dutch, and not very happy with this plan.
From the perspective of efficiency it may be a good idea, but from the perspective of theft, misuse and privacy it's perhaps one of the most stupid ideas I've ever heard of. It's funny though that after fifty years the Dutch are planning to centralize their data again (not storing data in one central location is a leftover from WW II. The Germans could lay their hands on all public records in an matter of hours or days, and the Dutch government vowed to not let that happen ever again)
Anyhow, if the public can have a say in this, they are not going to have my vote!
Shouldn't there be a sort of consistency among the different applications used within one GUI. Before you know it, we are back in the 'goold' old DOS day, where every application was setting it's own standards (remember WordPerfect?). These gestures would only be nice if they were an integral part of the GUI, and thus useable for all applications.
I agree with the largest part of your reply, except for this:
"Security holes are only an issue because of the damn hackers. Hacker: 'Hey, we're helping you exposing security holes so you can fix them'. Dude: 'And why should we fix the holes?.' Hacker: 'Um uh. To protect you from us.'"
There are enough proven cases in which information, creditcard numbers for example, was stolen. I wouldn't be very happy if people broke into my machines, but I could live with it if I knew if it was only for the 'sport of it'.Unfortunately it happens too often that information is stolen, and therefore it is necessary to fix holes. I think it is a bit too easy to compare hackers with criminals.
Yeah, I can see the apology now: "Sorry we blasted Paris away, we thought we used metric values to calculate the trajectory..."
So an asteroid strike would make vast areas of land inaccessable for the masses? How is that like golf?
All in all, this is very much like golf - so it's a good comparison in my book! :)
So they plan to wipe out Telford on on Oct 16 2023, but "The impact would be accurate to within a few hundred miles...". So it's also very well possible that they miss England alltogether? Sounds like a good, well thought out, plan to me **chuckles**.
A nervous system? My system can get quite nervous from time to time, ending in a kernel panic :)
Well, there's always something called freedom of speech; it's not up to the German minister go around on the internet like a real hauptstormbahnfuhrer, and blocking all sites that he doesn't like. The only way to deal with these situations is through the proper international legal channels, no country should be their own judge in these matters. I mean what would be next:
Good call.. I even think that there are quite a few number of people saying that "..they always thought that Linux and Open source would never actually work; it's all about money and advertisement you little boys, go home and play!". :(
So Scientology is reading Slashdot now? *shudder* Next they will be after me! Maybe there's still time, I ... Hey , hello ... I... Aaaaahaaaaaaaaargh!
We have a theory, not substantiated yet, that Linux runs cooler than other operating systems
I always thought that Linux was cool, but that was only metaphorically !Well, according to those scientists, the first effects of the oncoming ice age would be notable within one or two decades. So if they're right, start buying warm underwear :)
BTW I'm european tooYep, that would be the same theory allright. It talked about the reduced 'pumping effect' in the area of Greenland (colder water sinks and it transported back to the caribean, to be replaced by warmer water). They said that this effect was measurably diminishing, and we could have another ice age on our hands. The big question is if humaity is causing all this, or are we just adding to an already present natural effect? This last assumption is not so strange - we have had quite a number of ice ages already. All the environmentalists are yelling that we are the cause of all this, but they easily forget the fact that there is natural occuring pattern of heating up and cooling down. Maybe humanity is a bit too arrogant to think that they are the *only* cause
A while ago I saw a documentory about global heating, and about the effect it could have on ice ages. They argued that the heating up of the earth caused the flow of warmer water from the gulf of mexico to the north pole. This warmer water 'holds the ice back'; if the warm water flow diminishes, the ice forming will not be held back, and we would have a new ice age, despite the fact that the earth was heating up. Does anybody know more about this?
In an ideal world you are right; however in this universe things are looking rather different. An application will needs all sorts of 'handles' and code to embed GUI parts & functionality. I personally don't want IE to embed Word when I download a document, just smack it on the disk and I'll deal with it later; I also don't want in-document Excel editing, but the functionality is there and hogs the application. But I think it has all got to do with the average Joe being able to use his computer without too much of a hassle, so we will have to put up with it :(
Wow, forgot to preview, and what do you know: I'm the typo king of the world!
I don't know how privacy regulations are in the USA, but I do know we have privacy laws here in the Netherlands. If they actually *work* is a completely different story. Companies *must* give you insight in data they haven on you, but in reality it is almost impossible to track down what information the do have on you. I have tried this with a few companies: I was constantly being put on hold, talked with a lot of different people, and nobody knew anything. One company could tell me that they regularly bought personal data from 'another' company, but they couldn't which one. So you can have all the laws and regulations thath you want, but what companies do with your information is quite something else!