Not trying to be a Debian zealot, but that's exactly what apt does. Applications etc are submitted from throughout the world to the centralised Debian package management system, where they are incorporated into the 'apt' system. The Debian package maintainers take care of all the libraries and dependancies to ensure it fits into the required branch perfectly. It works beautifully!
A lot of groups have set up their own networks, without the help of Consume. We're trying to do similar at http://www.glasgownet.com along with our http://www.backnet.org.uk friends in Edinburgh
If only they didn't send you your password to the email address you specify... My solution was to set up an alias in/etc/aliases for the email, and then to bin the alias after I got it. Any mail to it just bounces now:-)
I name my servers after black project aircraft, like A-12, Oxcart, Blackbird, Have_Blue, D-21, M-12 and so on.
Why try to think of unique names when you can get other people to do it for you?!
ach fsck it. Who cares what it is. I don't care what you think, but I do care what he thinks - he has the balls to post under a proper account. In the end, I'm uploading data to my servers, and downloading data from them. It semantics/pedantics though.
Since when has a big machine at the end of a network connection, which thousands of people access via the network, but never physically, been called a client?
The definition between a server and a client is a clear one.
Yes, but under the preferences options you can deselect the option of allowing others to see when you are online. This allows your friends to see you online, but stops your ICQ homepage from displaying a status image.
Never stopped me from talking to my mates in Portugal. As far as they're concerned, that legislation doesn't exist. And if they are stopped by their ISP, they'll find another way. Bagpuss
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Nothing new, first done in 1962 by a Scotsman called Jame Cuthbertson. Commonly called a "Cuthbertson Conversion" Try http://www.worldoffroad.com/vehicles/cuthbertson.a sp
I could have had it done to my Land Rover years ago. I thought this was supposed to be a NEWs site??? Bagpuss
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doing 55mph with a 2 mile traffic jam behind them.
Is it just me or is this a purely British trait??
Also, the government ain't gonna lay a finger on my 20 year old Land Rover and I sure as hell won't voluntarily put one of those systems in my car.
Incidentally, I am an Autotest timekeeper. What happens when all these hobbyist racers for the local Sporting Club take their *road legal* cars on to our Motorsports Authority authorised competition area (usually car parks closed to the public for a day - and usually different for each event) and attempt to break the speed limit *for that area but legally*???
The system just won't work and if the government don't listen the public will react (remember the petrol crisis) Bagpuss
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Three years ago at an exhibition they had a "BEAM Landscape" with BEAM plants, BEAM herbivores and BEAM carnivores.
They all basically worked on the same prinicipal, they would charge up via solar power and if they were touched in the right place by another robot with the right sensors and power levels they would discharge. If a herbivore touched a plant (pyramid shaped rocking thingy with solar panel sides) it would gain energy from it and the plant would lose energy. If the plant lost enough energy, enough to destabilise the "neural network" of transistors, it would die.
The same also applied to the herbivores and carnivores (who could be killed by poisonous plants)
It was all rather interesting (lots of green "animals" hopping, rolling and rocking around a field), albeit a little bit slow!
1> I guess so. After all, they communicate with spacecraft on the edge of our solar system with no bother, ie the Voyager crafts before they left for good.
2> With the eternal vacuum (sp?) of space they should have no problems dissipating heat. Dunno about heat from the sun though!
3> The laser could be de-focused slightly at the source so that it covers the required area by the time it gets to the craft.
4> If it is a laser they use then in theory it has infinite range with no loss of power. I don't have a clue about microwaves though!
5> Depends on the power and wavelength of the laser. Yet again, don't ask me if it is microwaves!;) Bagpuss Your friendly cloth cat
Of course, they are only "created" if you are thinking of a photon as a particle. If you are thinking of a photon in terms of energy then it is the excess energy emitted when an electron drops from one energy level down to a lower energy level. I could come out with the equations but it's too early in the morning;) Bagpuss Your friendly cloth cat
"So what if gas is at $1.79/gal for premium?"!! Some of us don't have the money to keep up with technology in the same way you obviously can... Over here in crappy Britain, petrol (the normal unleaded kind) is a shocking £4 per gallon. That's $6.31360 (courtesy of xe.net) a gallon to most of you... Fair enough, it may be nice having a top end PC, but what's the point if you don't have the money to keep it top end with the latest motherboards, memory, TNT graphics cards etc etc. If you don't have the money to do so then it is pointless doing so to start with.
http://kernel.glasgownet.com will serve up that page for you. It'll be up there for the rest of eternity hopefully ;-)
Not trying to be a Debian zealot, but that's exactly what apt does. Applications etc are submitted from throughout the world to the centralised Debian package management system, where they are incorporated into the 'apt' system. The Debian package maintainers take care of all the libraries and dependancies to ensure it fits into the required branch perfectly. It works beautifully!
Who says I was overestimating their level of organization?? All we do is use their database, cos it's nice.
A lot of groups have set up their own networks, without the help of Consume. We're trying to do similar at http://www.glasgownet.com along with our http://www.backnet.org.uk friends in Edinburgh
If only they didn't send you your password to the email address you specify... My solution was to set up an alias in /etc/aliases for the email, and then to bin the alias after I got it. Any mail to it just bounces now :-)
I name my servers after black project aircraft, like A-12, Oxcart, Blackbird, Have_Blue, D-21, M-12 and so on.
Why try to think of unique names when you can get other people to do it for you?!
Obviously you space your machines more than 25 meters apart then. (GPS resolution)
Since when did it collapse??! For Pop Idol they limited amount of lines they had in order to prevent a collapse from occuring.
ach fsck it. Who cares what it is. I don't care what you think, but I do care what he thinks - he has the balls to post under a proper account. In the end, I'm uploading data to my servers, and downloading data from them. It semantics/pedantics though.
Since when has a big machine at the end of a network connection, which thousands of people access via the network, but never physically, been called a client? The definition between a server and a client is a clear one.
Because you upload to a server and download to a client.
Yes, but under the preferences options you can deselect the option of allowing others to see when you are online. This allows your friends to see you online, but stops your ICQ homepage from displaying a status image.
It works for me anyway.
http://www.tpsonline.org.uk
Telephone Preference System
I signed up for it ages ago and it works a treat. We've even had companies writing to us to ask for permission to call us!
Yeah, give it a shot. What have you to lose?!
Bagpuss
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Never stopped me from talking to my mates in Portugal. As far as they're concerned, that legislation doesn't exist. And if they are stopped by their ISP, they'll find another way.
Bagpuss
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Nothing new, first done in 1962 by a Scotsman called Jame Cuthbertson. Commonly called a "Cuthbertson Conversion" Try http://www.worldoffroad.com/vehicles/cuthbertson.a sp
I could have had it done to my Land Rover years ago. I thought this was supposed to be a NEWs site???
Bagpuss
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I think I found a copy of that Alcatel document. Here's a mirror http://www.glasgownet.com/CPE_statement.PDF"
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doing 55mph with a 2 mile traffic jam behind them.
Is it just me or is this a purely British trait??
Also, the government ain't gonna lay a finger on my 20 year old Land Rover and I sure as hell won't voluntarily put one of those systems in my car.
Incidentally, I am an Autotest timekeeper. What happens when all these hobbyist racers for the local Sporting Club take their *road legal* cars on to our Motorsports Authority authorised competition area (usually car parks closed to the public for a day - and usually different for each event) and attempt to break the speed limit *for that area but legally*???
The system just won't work and if the government don't listen the public will react (remember the petrol crisis)
Bagpuss
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They've not been thinking, they've been doing!
Three years ago at an exhibition they had a "BEAM Landscape" with BEAM plants, BEAM herbivores and BEAM carnivores.
They all basically worked on the same prinicipal, they would charge up via solar power and if they were touched in the right place by another robot with the right sensors and power levels they would discharge. If a herbivore touched a plant (pyramid shaped rocking thingy with solar panel sides) it would gain energy from it and the plant would lose energy. If the plant lost enough energy, enough to destabilise the "neural network" of transistors, it would die.
The same also applied to the herbivores and carnivores (who could be killed by poisonous plants)
It was all rather interesting (lots of green "animals" hopping, rolling and rocking around a field), albeit a little bit slow!
Bagpuss
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I stand corrected ;o
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1> I guess so. After all, they communicate with spacecraft on the edge of our solar system with no bother, ie the Voyager crafts before they left for good.
;)
2> With the eternal vacuum (sp?) of space they should have no problems dissipating heat. Dunno about heat from the sun though!
3> The laser could be de-focused slightly at the source so that it covers the required area by the time it gets to the craft.
4> If it is a laser they use then in theory it has infinite range with no loss of power. I don't have a clue about microwaves though!
5> Depends on the power and wavelength of the laser. Yet again, don't ask me if it is microwaves!
Bagpuss
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Of course, they are only "created" if you are thinking of a photon as a particle. If you are thinking of a photon in terms of energy then it is the excess energy emitted when an electron drops from one energy level down to a lower energy level. I could come out with the equations but it's too early in the morning ;)
Bagpuss
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"So what if gas is at $1.79/gal for premium?"!! Some of us don't have the money to keep up with technology in the same way you obviously can... Over here in crappy Britain, petrol (the normal unleaded kind) is a shocking £4 per gallon. That's $6.31360 (courtesy of xe.net) a gallon to most of you... Fair enough, it may be nice having a top end PC, but what's the point if you don't have the money to keep it top end with the latest motherboards, memory, TNT graphics cards etc etc. If you don't have the money to do so then it is pointless doing so to start with.