Where does it include Quicken2005? Its not on my Mac mini!/Applications/Quicken2005/
That's where it's on my Mac mini, right along side all of the other preinstalled applications. It's also on the installer CD.
Maybe you got a Mini with a botched drive image? If all else is working, stick in the installer CD and open up the "Install Bundled Software Only" package.
Mac Mini does come with some pretty nice software out of the box. To me this makes up the difference between the price of a Mini and the price of a low end PC ($300 Celeron/Semperon + Radeon 9200)
Mac OS X (Windows XP OEM costs at least $50) iMovie - editing software, better than Avid FreeDV or Microsoft Movie Maker 2.0 iDVD - DVD mastering software for making menus, etc, and burning to DVD Garage Band - compose, edit, and mix music
Also included, but not too useful for schools: iPhoto - sort, edit, and print digital photos iTunes Xcode - software development suite for C/C++/Java Quicken 2005 Nanosaur 2
The hard drive is only 4200RPM While a faster hard drive will give you better scrubbing performance, you don't really *need* to have a fast drive for editing DV.
The DV codec that most of us use with our camcorders is DV25, which is 25 Mbits/sec = 3.125 MB/sec.
DV editing was fine on notebooks even 4 years ago on the original "toilet seat" iBook.
The 533 MHz bus on a P4 is actually 133 MHz quad pumped. The actual thruput is less than what would be possible with a "real" 533 MHz FSB. However, even the 133x4=533 MHz FSB is still faster than the G4's 167 MHz FSB.
Where the low end PCs really suck is with their onboard integrated chipset graphics. "Intel Extreme Graphics", "VIA DeltaChome Graphics", etc are major performance killers. They zap CPU and RAM bus performance and are overall ickky. If you want a fun experiment, try some benchmarks with a PC with such integrated graphics. Then install a PCI Radeon 7000 (very low end GPU) and disable the integrated graphics. BOOM, instant huge performance boost. Basiclly, any GPU is better than no GPU. Or perhaps more correctly, real dedicated gfx RAM is better than sharing system RAM.
The school district that I work for has been looking for a sub $500 video editing and DVD playback solution (budgets are REALLY tight these days). How does the Mac Mini stack up (with and without overclocking it)? You can't get one for less than $480, and that's for the 256 MB combodrive version.
I bought a 512 MB superdrive Mac Mini last week. It works great for video editing, it's actually a pretty fast little machine.
BUT... transcoding from DV to MPEG2 takes awhile. Editing and even designing the buttons and menus for the DVD image is fast as can be, but be prepared to wait *at least* an hour before the finished DVD pops out after you click the burn button.
This is for the electrical engineers: Why is the MoBo blue? Is there a signifigance to the color of the board? Or did Apple just pick it because on the order sheet it was "aqua"? Because Red mobos run the fastest, and Apple didn't want to make the Mac Mini too fast otherwise it would have killed G5 sales.
I second that... (plus my Mac Mini experiences)
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Good point.
I bought a 512 MB 1.25 GHz Mac Mini last week. It's been a pretty sweet little machine. iMovie works great with MiniDV video, I don't have a HDV camcorder to try HD though.
Garage Band ROCKS! 18 tracks of audio of different formats and it keeps on trucking!
I haven't tried anything harder than Warcraft 3 or Sim City 4 on it yet though.
The original Mac 128K intro was supposidly really an early proto 512K in disguise. That's correct. However the difference between the Mac 128K and the 512K were the number and density of the RAM chips. The Mac 128K was actually designed in a way such that the board could easily be reworked by a third party to upgrade to 256K or 512K (this was a very common aftermarket mod). The main reason for the 512K machine in the demo was to support MacInTalk and the animated introduction. The Finder, MacWrite, and MacPaint worked just as good under 128K as they did under 512K. In Feb 1984 the price for 512K would have almost doubled the cost of the original Macintosh.
The original MacII intro (playing Applachain Spring, et al) I was told was running off of a super-fast external hard drive behind the curtain under the demo table. Possible, but it would have still been limited by the 5 MB/sec SCSI interface. The Mac II came out long after Steve Jobs left Apple. He left shortly after the original Mac introduction. I think he already had Pixar going by the time the Mac Plus came out.
On the Mac, Office totally dominated. The Mac version of Word has always been, and remains to this day, superior to the Windows version. In ten years of working with Macs and running IT for Mac shops, I've never seen a product for the Mac OS that could really compete with Office.
As a whole, yes, you are correct. However there has always been Nisus Writer which has been the choice of many writers for a long time. It has 90% of Word's features for a fraction of the cost, disk space, and CPU usage.
The last versions for "Classic" Mac OS supported System 7.1 all the way up to Mac OS 9.2.2 and required only 2 MB of RAM.
The Mac OS X version, Nisus Writer Express, is still an excellent word processor and makes for a great complement to Apple's page layout app, "Pages".
This doesn't really help the original poster, but isn't it possible to use an external HDTV tuner (like the kind that a lot of HDTV monitor owners had to buy) and then connect it to your HTPC via Firewire and record the video that way?
From what I've seen, most of those tuners also have a serial port for changing the channel, etc, so that could be connected to the HTPC as well for control. Using DirecTV with ReplayTV is similar, you can use either the IR blaster to control the DirecTV box or you can connect the two with a serial cable.
Even some folks on Nekochan.net have managed to compile 3.3.x on SGI IRIX. Believe me, if you can get code to compile on SGI's overly-anal MIPSpro compiler, you can get it to compile ANYWHERE!
Aren't anti-aliased fonts a basic feature of any modern desktop environment? If you have the CPU power, sure. But there are those of us that want to run the latest software on older existing hardware. I generally forgo AA on everything except for my semi-modern main PC at home. The machines at work, at the church, and my older PCs suffer too much of a hit when I use AA.
Excited about KDE 3.4
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I'm looking forward to giving 3.4 a try. Why? Because on my modest hardware it seems like Qt has gotten faster over the past 2 years while GTK2 has gotten slower.
TI-85 Calculator Tetris. LOL, that reminds me too much of an old high school classmate. He failed at least one math class by spending every class period playing Zcasino on his TI-85. He even filed bug reports.
You're right it ain't free - It's $600 for the version that will work for all three OSes, or a grand if you want a 12 month subscription.
That's peanuts and pocket change compared to what many corporations used to pay (and in some cases, still pay) for X-Designer and BX Pro to drag-and-drop design GUIs for their in-house Motif apps.
Many still use these expensive apps now that most support native MFC and Motif-in-MFC.
Am I the only one who likes the Tk widgets? They're not ugly, they're clean and simple. They're just as nice or perhaps even better than the Win32 widgets.
I think NeXTSTEP had the coolest widgets for its time, and these days there are some pretty nice GTK themes. But yeesh, why bash the Tk and Motif widget sets? Do you really find them that ugly? My only complaints about the look and feel of some Tk and Motif apps is when the designer has no concept of layout and makes for an ugly mess of buttons, or worse yet, has a complex layout in a small window that requires the user to resize or scroll just to see all of the UI. Then there's the colorblind Motif user that uses the default blue theme! Yikes!
The saddest thing I ever saw was a computer lab of newbies surfing the web on semi-modern Macs.... using Pointcast as the browser!! That beast made Netscape 4 look like high class code.
It's been ages since I've used pointcast, so I don't even remember how one went about enabling it's browser (rather than just have it pass the URL off to Netscape or IE).
Sure, if you owned a mac and didn't have a CHOICE. I was playing DOOM on the Mac in late 1995. And I was playing Wolf3D on the Mac during Christmas 1993. A little behind the DOS world, but not too bad. Games are still fun even 2 years after their release.
I too remember the fun of Marthon and Bolo LAN parties. Late nights in 1995 with a bunch of Macs linked together with Ethernet and/or LocalTalk PhoneNet. Voicechat was awesome fun back then!
My first Mac LAN party was actually in school around 1991 or 1992. We had a lab of Mac Classics (a modernized Mac Plus) that were netwoked mainly to share a couple laser printers. But the coolest use of the network??... OREGON TRAIL!!! The Mac version that we had supported LAN play. Each wagon could be made up of 1 - 5 players on different machines. You could vote to figure out what to do next... chat... even go on hunting parties! I've never had so much fun with a 512x384 grayscale game before!
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They have 128MB in there for 2 reasons:
1) To meet the $500 price level
2) So they can charge $100+ more for a 256MB version.
Nope, not on either the Mini or the Installer DVD. Must be a region thing, as Im in the UK and Im betting you are in the States.
Bingo.
Where does it include Quicken2005? Its not on my Mac mini! /Applications/Quicken2005/
That's where it's on my Mac mini, right along side all of the other preinstalled applications. It's also on the installer CD.
Maybe you got a Mini with a botched drive image? If all else is working, stick in the installer CD and open up the "Install Bundled Software Only" package.
Mac Mini does come with some pretty nice software out of the box. To me this makes up the difference between the price of a Mini and the price of a low end PC ($300 Celeron/Semperon + Radeon 9200)
Mac OS X (Windows XP OEM costs at least $50)
iMovie - editing software, better than Avid FreeDV or Microsoft Movie Maker 2.0
iDVD - DVD mastering software for making menus, etc, and burning to DVD
Garage Band - compose, edit, and mix music
Also included, but not too useful for schools:
iPhoto - sort, edit, and print digital photos
iTunes
Xcode - software development suite for C/C++/Java
Quicken 2005
Nanosaur 2
2. Someone steal the source for AQUA and ports it to x86
http://www.gnustep.org/
The hard drive is only 4200RPM
While a faster hard drive will give you better scrubbing performance, you don't really *need* to have a fast drive for editing DV.
The DV codec that most of us use with our camcorders is DV25, which is 25 Mbits/sec = 3.125 MB/sec.
DV editing was fine on notebooks even 4 years ago on the original "toilet seat" iBook.
The 533 MHz bus on a P4 is actually 133 MHz quad pumped. The actual thruput is less than what would be possible with a "real" 533 MHz FSB. However, even the 133x4=533 MHz FSB is still faster than the G4's 167 MHz FSB.
Where the low end PCs really suck is with their onboard integrated chipset graphics. "Intel Extreme Graphics", "VIA DeltaChome Graphics", etc are major performance killers. They zap CPU and RAM bus performance and are overall ickky. If you want a fun experiment, try some benchmarks with a PC with such integrated graphics. Then install a PCI Radeon 7000 (very low end GPU) and disable the integrated graphics. BOOM, instant huge performance boost. Basiclly, any GPU is better than no GPU. Or perhaps more correctly, real dedicated gfx RAM is better than sharing system RAM.
The school district that I work for has been looking for a sub $500 video editing and DVD playback solution (budgets are REALLY tight these days). How does the Mac Mini stack up (with and without overclocking it)?
You can't get one for less than $480, and that's for the 256 MB combodrive version.
I bought a 512 MB superdrive Mac Mini last week. It works great for video editing, it's actually a pretty fast little machine.
BUT... transcoding from DV to MPEG2 takes awhile. Editing and even designing the buttons and menus for the DVD image is fast as can be, but be prepared to wait *at least* an hour before the finished DVD pops out after you click the burn button.
This is for the electrical engineers:
Why is the MoBo blue? Is there a signifigance to the color of the board? Or did Apple just pick it because on the order sheet it was "aqua"?
Because Red mobos run the fastest, and Apple didn't want to make the Mac Mini too fast otherwise it would have killed G5 sales.
Good point.
I bought a 512 MB 1.25 GHz Mac Mini last week. It's been a pretty sweet little machine. iMovie works great with MiniDV video, I don't have a HDV camcorder to try HD though.
Garage Band ROCKS! 18 tracks of audio of different formats and it keeps on trucking!
I haven't tried anything harder than Warcraft 3 or Sim City 4 on it yet though.
The G4 is crippled by its 167 MHz FSB, so how about overclocking that for some real performance boosts?
The original Mac 128K intro was supposidly really an early proto 512K in disguise.
That's correct. However the difference between the Mac 128K and the 512K were the number and density of the RAM chips. The Mac 128K was actually designed in a way such that the board could easily be reworked by a third party to upgrade to 256K or 512K (this was a very common aftermarket mod). The main reason for the 512K machine in the demo was to support MacInTalk and the animated introduction. The Finder, MacWrite, and MacPaint worked just as good under 128K as they did under 512K. In Feb 1984 the price for 512K would have almost doubled the cost of the original Macintosh.
The original MacII intro (playing Applachain Spring, et al) I was told was running off of a super-fast external hard drive behind the curtain under the demo table.
Possible, but it would have still been limited by the 5 MB/sec SCSI interface. The Mac II came out long after Steve Jobs left Apple. He left shortly after the original Mac introduction. I think he already had Pixar going by the time the Mac Plus came out.
On the Mac, Office totally dominated. The Mac version of Word has always been, and remains to this day, superior to the Windows version. In ten years of working with Macs and running IT for Mac shops, I've never seen a product for the Mac OS that could really compete with Office.
As a whole, yes, you are correct. However there has always been Nisus Writer which has been the choice of many writers for a long time. It has 90% of Word's features for a fraction of the cost, disk space, and CPU usage.
The last versions for "Classic" Mac OS supported System 7.1 all the way up to Mac OS 9.2.2 and required only 2 MB of RAM.
The Mac OS X version, Nisus Writer Express, is still an excellent word processor and makes for a great complement to Apple's page layout app, "Pages".
http://www.nisus.com/Express/
This doesn't really help the original poster, but isn't it possible to use an external HDTV tuner (like the kind that a lot of HDTV monitor owners had to buy) and then connect it to your HTPC via Firewire and record the video that way?
From what I've seen, most of those tuners also have a serial port for changing the channel, etc, so that could be connected to the HTPC as well for control. Using DirecTV with ReplayTV is similar, you can use either the IR blaster to control the DirecTV box or you can connect the two with a serial cable.
Even some folks on Nekochan.net have managed to compile 3.3.x on SGI IRIX. Believe me, if you can get code to compile on SGI's overly-anal MIPSpro compiler, you can get it to compile ANYWHERE!
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Ditto for Mozilla. OOo is another story though
I think what OP was saying is it should be included as a recommended feature, not that you *have* to use it.
Oh! Good point! I was too quick to reply.
Aren't anti-aliased fonts a basic feature of any modern desktop environment?
If you have the CPU power, sure. But there are those of us that want to run the latest software on older existing hardware. I generally forgo AA on everything except for my semi-modern main PC at home. The machines at work, at the church, and my older PCs suffer too much of a hit when I use AA.
I'm looking forward to giving 3.4 a try. Why? Because on my modest hardware it seems like Qt has gotten faster over the past 2 years while GTK2 has gotten slower.
TI-85 Calculator Tetris.
LOL, that reminds me too much of an old high school classmate. He failed at least one math class by spending every class period playing Zcasino on his TI-85. He even filed bug reports.
All Sun really needs to do is dust off their old SPARC 5 and recompile the Linux version for Solaris. I doubt it has many Linux-specific calls.
You're right it ain't free - It's $600 for the version that will work for all three OSes, or a grand if you want a 12 month subscription.
That's peanuts and pocket change compared to what many corporations used to pay (and in some cases, still pay) for X-Designer and BX Pro to drag-and-drop design GUIs for their in-house Motif apps.
Many still use these expensive apps now that most support native MFC and Motif-in-MFC.
...TK-Apps that are ugly as hell...
Am I the only one who likes the Tk widgets? They're not ugly, they're clean and simple. They're just as nice or perhaps even better than the Win32 widgets.
I think NeXTSTEP had the coolest widgets for its time, and these days there are some pretty nice GTK themes. But yeesh, why bash the Tk and Motif widget sets? Do you really find them that ugly? My only complaints about the look and feel of some Tk and Motif apps is when the designer has no concept of layout and makes for an ugly mess of buttons, or worse yet, has a complex layout in a small window that requires the user to resize or scroll just to see all of the UI. Then there's the colorblind Motif user that uses the default blue theme! Yikes!
But ugly??
I guess I'm just old.
The saddest thing I ever saw was a computer lab of newbies surfing the web on semi-modern Macs.... using Pointcast as the browser!! That beast made Netscape 4 look like high class code.
It's been ages since I've used pointcast, so I don't even remember how one went about enabling it's browser (rather than just have it pass the URL off to Netscape or IE).
Sure, if you owned a mac and didn't have a CHOICE.
I was playing DOOM on the Mac in late 1995. And I was playing Wolf3D on the Mac during Christmas 1993. A little behind the DOS world, but not too bad. Games are still fun even 2 years after their release.
I too remember the fun of Marthon and Bolo LAN parties. Late nights in 1995 with a bunch of Macs linked together with Ethernet and/or LocalTalk PhoneNet. Voicechat was awesome fun back then!
My first Mac LAN party was actually in school around 1991 or 1992. We had a lab of Mac Classics (a modernized Mac Plus) that were netwoked mainly to share a couple laser printers. But the coolest use of the network??... OREGON TRAIL!!! The Mac version that we had supported LAN play. Each wagon could be made up of 1 - 5 players on different machines. You could vote to figure out what to do next... chat... even go on hunting parties! I've never had so much fun with a 512x384 grayscale game before!