As a male, let me just say that it is sometimes good to be in the minority. The downside is that unless you are a dirty old man, there is no way to take advantage of the beautification of the female portion of the human race.
There are only two physical traits with universal sexual appeal cross-culturally, symmetry you mentioned and clear skin. All of these ratios and such are measuring the current cultural zeitgeist with regards to beauty, and those standards are largely culturally plastic. Little better in methodology than phrenology.
While they can't "call it in" in a direct sense, there's more than one way to skin a cat. It's no secret China is very quickly losing faith in the value of US bonds. Them losing faith in value = actual loss of value. If they think they aren't getting paid anyway, they can cut us off, which they've done some of already, and can certainly devalue our economy if they wanted to, forcing the USA to scramble for a new loan source... and if China dumps us, welcome to the REAL depression.
Why was this modded down? The poster asks some questions very valid for discussion. Science forbids we hold anything but a one-sided discussion? Do we just mod anybody down we don't agree with out of existence?
It was probably modded down because his question has been answered on this page and his car argument makes little sense. How in heaven's name can it be said that because science can explain a car it was not created and instead "evolved". The amount of ridiculous thinking in the post hints that the poster will not listen.
The poster made a bad analogy, but that dismisses the validity of the post all together? I believe Slashdot discussions are here to add to the discussion.
The poster makes a valid point. I'm personally annoyed by all the mouth breathers who are SO anxious to prove Intelligent Design people wrong, so much so that they don't use good science and claim ridiculous things as being evolution. I heard a discussion one day about how big corn is now compared to in the past. They said something about people meddling with corn genetics and that was somehow evolution because the corn "changed". Ugh! Bad science is WORSE than no science at all. Can we stop the madness?
Well evolution means change, look it up in the dictionary. The theory of evolution attempts to explain how this change occurs (and more). Therefore to say by human selection of the biggest corn kernels over many years the corn has changed to become bigger is absolutely right. Substitute the word evolution for the word change and it is still right.
"Evolution" in the context of the conversation was referring to Darwinian evolution. The point was they did not understand what qualifies. And apparently you do not read things in context. I was talking about people who are too eager to prove the other "supreme being" type believers wrong, then going on to cite an example. I believe the next statement in their discussion would be "chew on that, Creationists!".
Evolution if fact! It is the fact that over time the life on Earth has changed!
Evolution is not "fact". Look it up in the dictionary, and then the scientific requirements for a theory to be called fact. Just because it may not be possible to prove it in a lifetime does not give the science community the go-ahead to just label it as scientific fact. This is one of the things I'm talking about when I say "bad science".
Of course. This place is so welcoming that Africans used to come over here by the boatload.
If you rated each country purely by negative aspects of their history, you'd hate every place you come across. Point? Get over it. It's only one of many driving forces of cultural and racial segregation in this country.
U.S.A. is a larger melting pot than most when it comes to variety of nationalities, cultures, and languages. I can literally walk ten square blocks starting from where I live, and during that time I'll have come across hispanic, indian, leotion, african american, laotian, korean, and "redneck" cultures, with a number of those speaking their own languages amongst themselves... and I live in the "conservative" midwest, much less the more largely diversified cities like New York.
Caucasians still dominate, but their numbers are shrinking. Just take a look at census data over the last 30 years and you'll get a pretty clear picture of just how amazingly welcoming we are. If we weren't, we wouldn't have such high numbers of immigration (legal or otherwise).
... you still need jobs to run the Data Centers and develop the applications and software. It's not like cloud computing makes tasks magically teleport to la-la land and be materialized back in your computer.
Good God, I can't be the only one so sick of this cloud computing bullshit. Seriously, just because it works for some types of data and/or applications, doesn't mean it'll work for everything.
Put down the fucking hammer, not every IT task is a frigging nail.
Idiots.
Agreed.
SkyNet will realize that too, ironically. Killing humans will be just too damn inefficient using cloud computing.
So if a gene change causes the species of bird to stop mating due to feather color, thus causing "science" to predict eventual new species, Why hasn't this "science" been extrapolated to humans? If humans with certain traits stop breeding with other humans of certain traits (by nature or design), would not science say that those humans where on course for "speciation"? Likewise, if humans with distinct traits breed together, wouldn't that be argued by "science" as a process of "de-speciation"?
Science can explain how things exist and work as we observe them. Science can explain a car, but science cannot explain why a car exists or why it came to be. Either the existence of a car was a random event in nature or was not a random event in nature, in either case for cause, the same science of a car is equally valid (assuming we have the "science" right). One could look at a car and say it was created, others may look at a car and say, hey, science can explain this, therefore it was not created (we can document snapshots of various "cars" evolving from a horse drawn carriage to the car of today as proof).
The real question is can it be proven that everything we can see, hear and feel toady came into existence and coexists together in balance via a string of completely random and unrelated natural events? Or do you "choose" to "believe" science will be able to prove this one day?
Cheers.
Why was this modded down? The poster asks some questions very valid for discussion. Science forbids we hold anything but a one-sided discussion? Do we just mod anybody down we don't agree with out of existence?
The poster makes a valid point. I'm personally annoyed by all the mouth breathers who are SO anxious to prove Intelligent Design people wrong, so much so that they don't use good science and claim ridiculous things as being evolution. I heard a discussion one day about how big corn is now compared to in the past. They said something about people meddling with corn genetics and that was somehow evolution because the corn "changed". Ugh! Bad science is WORSE than no science at all. Can we stop the madness?
You think China is going to take any steps to de-value our currency? Who would buy their crap and keep their economic engine running. Any slide in the dollar versus their currency means a stop to new manufacturing construction.
Yes. They already called in some of the debt... thus our auctioning off of more bonds out of thin air. They had their own stimulus package to pay for, and they had to get some back somewhere.
Oh, DC is just the worst. So many self-serving jackasses.
Nice use of sarcasm for a defense. It's been long known how inefficient and bickery DC is. Also, if you don't think our "representatives" aren't self-serving jackasses, you're clearly blind to historical facts and current events.
The government has long had it's nose in banking
Our government always had their noses in banks, thus the federal reserve, but never in history on such a personal level. Combined with taking over by strong-arming the auto industry, bailing out (and taking ownership) of failed businesses, including FIRING AN EMPLOYEE OF A BUSINESS that the WH should have NO business in doing... all that happened within months of each other. If that isn't the beginning of a massive shift, I don't know what is.
Humor aside, let's not all jump on the bad science bandwagon here. The title of the article and the description of the article are misleading. If you RTFA (I know, I should know better, this is/.), it clear states that two subspecies of birds with different colored bellies behaviorally aren't mating with each other. Splitting into new species? Clearly not. All this article argues is that it is the next step in evolutionary theory necessary. It doesn't mean it will actually happen.
And, as we all know, that part isn't news and has been observed before.
*yawn* Move along folks, nothing to see here.
As a side note, in TFA: "When two populations stop exchanging genes-that is, stop mating with each other-then they can be considered distinct species."
I'm clearly the same species as fat chicks.
I agree - but in our case the "system" is primarily private enterprise... and it did collapse. Which is good. Our government, though entangled, is still a mostly separate entity from the broader economy - so it survives when the economy crashes.
In the Soviet system, the government WAS the economy. When the economy crashed, so did the government. Or was it the other way around? You can't separate the two.
We're currently in a massive shift from private enterprise to "the government's bitch". In fact, I think spending trillions on a phantom "bailout" actually accomplishes the tie-in itself. We're spending money we don't have, when we're already way too far in a deficit we can't possibly pay back. It's all phantom dollars. Once our lenders decide to call it in, or once they realize how much our overinflated buck is actually worth -- POOF! I'm hesitant to call lended money that doesn't actually represent any real value a solid economy OR government.
It's really not just one administration's fault either. It's no argument the previous one gave it a good start down the hill, especially in the last 4 years. But the current one is kicking it the rest of the way. I know many will argue the current administration is full of minigods, but it's like saying Cleveland is awesome because it's not Detroit (I apologize to the Cleveland population).
And now, the two major parties - and the extremists on both sides of the population representing them - are in such a hissy fit with each other, they're ignoring what the consequences of their fights. Instead of collectively using differing perspectives to strengthen the quality of decisions made, everybody's ignoring proper practice, using illegal and hideous methods to push and prod their way through ridiculous legislation, unable to see past their own noses, and damn everybody who gets in their way (including the well-being of their own country and citizens).
Time to stop fighting children. Look at what we're doing.
To be fair, a typical machine idling uses about the same energy as 1 incandescent light bulb (60w - 75w). A typical machine under load is even comparable to the 100w bulbs.
I'd imagine laptops to be less than that.
So, I guess if you're playing Quake, turn the light off in the room and make up the difference.
I will send you $20 to stay in a hole, write software and restrict yourself from communicating with the outside world. Really, the world would be a better place.
Wow, that's a bit harsh. Who's the asshole again?...
To be fair, that does seems to be the conditions of so many of programming jobs nowadays...
Dogs are just big happy needy retarded children compliant by force and bribery/trickery.
Their neediness is what really turns me off....
I take it by your ignorance of how varied breeds are that you are one of those elitists that likes to claim that, just because they have a stubborn animal, they're SO much smarter than everything else. Would you call a mule smarter than a horse? Horses are much more trainable. Mules are smart? No. Are dolphins stupid? No.
Your logic on the situation is lacking.
But going back to dogs... really, there's a breed for almost everybody. If you want an aloof independent creature like a cat, there are tons of dog breeds out there that fit the bill. Try a Pekingese or a Basenji. I've had experience with Basenjis and I can testify to how "proper" and civilized they are. Incredibly smart, they hate messes, and are extremely independent. As a bonus, they will bark at intruders, where a cat will cover it's own ass and run like a little chickenshit, which makes a Basenji more dependable when you actually need them.
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As a male, let me just say that it is sometimes good to be in the minority. The downside is that unless you are a dirty old man, there is no way to take advantage of the beautification of the female portion of the human race.
Rich. Not dirty, rich.
Only gotta make 'em believe you're rich.
There are only two physical traits with universal sexual appeal cross-culturally, symmetry you mentioned and clear skin. All of these ratios and such are measuring the current cultural zeitgeist with regards to beauty, and those standards are largely culturally plastic. Little better in methodology than phrenology.
Standards met today are largely surgical plastic.
Yes. They already called in some of the debt...
You have any source for this? I see stuff like this in the news.
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/business/currency/news.php?q=1246389934
and
http://business.watoday.com.au/business/markets/china-calls-for-end-to-us-dollar-domination-20090627-d077.html
While they can't "call it in" in a direct sense, there's more than one way to skin a cat. It's no secret China is very quickly losing faith in the value of US bonds. Them losing faith in value = actual loss of value. If they think they aren't getting paid anyway, they can cut us off, which they've done some of already, and can certainly devalue our economy if they wanted to, forcing the USA to scramble for a new loan source... and if China dumps us, welcome to the REAL depression.
Why was this modded down? The poster asks some questions very valid for discussion. Science forbids we hold anything but a one-sided discussion? Do we just mod anybody down we don't agree with out of existence?
It was probably modded down because his question has been answered on this page and his car argument makes little sense. How in heaven's name can it be said that because science can explain a car it was not created and instead "evolved". The amount of ridiculous thinking in the post hints that the poster will not listen.
The poster made a bad analogy, but that dismisses the validity of the post all together? I believe Slashdot discussions are here to add to the discussion.
The poster makes a valid point. I'm personally annoyed by all the mouth breathers who are SO anxious to prove Intelligent Design people wrong, so much so that they don't use good science and claim ridiculous things as being evolution. I heard a discussion one day about how big corn is now compared to in the past. They said something about people meddling with corn genetics and that was somehow evolution because the corn "changed". Ugh! Bad science is WORSE than no science at all. Can we stop the madness?
Well evolution means change, look it up in the dictionary. The theory of evolution attempts to explain how this change occurs (and more). Therefore to say by human selection of the biggest corn kernels over many years the corn has changed to become bigger is absolutely right. Substitute the word evolution for the word change and it is still right.
"Evolution" in the context of the conversation was referring to Darwinian evolution. The point was they did not understand what qualifies. And apparently you do not read things in context. I was talking about people who are too eager to prove the other "supreme being" type believers wrong, then going on to cite an example. I believe the next statement in their discussion would be "chew on that, Creationists!".
Evolution if fact! It is the fact that over time the life on Earth has changed!
Evolution is not "fact". Look it up in the dictionary, and then the scientific requirements for a theory to be called fact. Just because it may not be possible to prove it in a lifetime does not give the science community the go-ahead to just label it as scientific fact. This is one of the things I'm talking about when I say "bad science".
Of course. This place is so welcoming that Africans used to come over here by the boatload.
If you rated each country purely by negative aspects of their history, you'd hate every place you come across. Point? Get over it. It's only one of many driving forces of cultural and racial segregation in this country.
U.S.A. is a larger melting pot than most when it comes to variety of nationalities, cultures, and languages. I can literally walk ten square blocks starting from where I live, and during that time I'll have come across hispanic, indian, leotion, african american, laotian, korean, and "redneck" cultures, with a number of those speaking their own languages amongst themselves... and I live in the "conservative" midwest, much less the more largely diversified cities like New York.
Caucasians still dominate, but their numbers are shrinking. Just take a look at census data over the last 30 years and you'll get a pretty clear picture of just how amazingly welcoming we are. If we weren't, we wouldn't have such high numbers of immigration (legal or otherwise).
... you still need jobs to run the Data Centers and develop the applications and software. It's not like cloud computing makes tasks magically teleport to la-la land and be materialized back in your computer.
Good God, I can't be the only one so sick of this cloud computing bullshit. Seriously, just because it works for some types of data and/or applications, doesn't mean it'll work for everything.
Put down the fucking hammer, not every IT task is a frigging nail.
Idiots.
Agreed. SkyNet will realize that too, ironically. Killing humans will be just too damn inefficient using cloud computing.
So if a gene change causes the species of bird to stop mating due to feather color, thus causing "science" to predict eventual new species, Why hasn't this "science" been extrapolated to humans? If humans with certain traits stop breeding with other humans of certain traits (by nature or design), would not science say that those humans where on course for "speciation"? Likewise, if humans with distinct traits breed together, wouldn't that be argued by "science" as a process of "de-speciation"?
Science can explain how things exist and work as we observe them. Science can explain a car, but science cannot explain why a car exists or why it came to be. Either the existence of a car was a random event in nature or was not a random event in nature, in either case for cause, the same science of a car is equally valid (assuming we have the "science" right). One could look at a car and say it was created, others may look at a car and say, hey, science can explain this, therefore it was not created (we can document snapshots of various "cars" evolving from a horse drawn carriage to the car of today as proof).
The real question is can it be proven that everything we can see, hear and feel toady came into existence and coexists together in balance via a string of completely random and unrelated natural events? Or do you "choose" to "believe" science will be able to prove this one day?
Cheers.
Why was this modded down? The poster asks some questions very valid for discussion. Science forbids we hold anything but a one-sided discussion? Do we just mod anybody down we don't agree with out of existence?
The poster makes a valid point. I'm personally annoyed by all the mouth breathers who are SO anxious to prove Intelligent Design people wrong, so much so that they don't use good science and claim ridiculous things as being evolution. I heard a discussion one day about how big corn is now compared to in the past. They said something about people meddling with corn genetics and that was somehow evolution because the corn "changed". Ugh! Bad science is WORSE than no science at all. Can we stop the madness?
You think China is going to take any steps to de-value our currency? Who would buy their crap and keep their economic engine running. Any slide in the dollar versus their currency means a stop to new manufacturing construction.
Yes. They already called in some of the debt... thus our auctioning off of more bonds out of thin air. They had their own stimulus package to pay for, and they had to get some back somewhere.
Oh, DC is just the worst. So many self-serving jackasses.
Nice use of sarcasm for a defense. It's been long known how inefficient and bickery DC is. Also, if you don't think our "representatives" aren't self-serving jackasses, you're clearly blind to historical facts and current events.
The government has long had it's nose in banking
Our government always had their noses in banks, thus the federal reserve, but never in history on such a personal level. Combined with taking over by strong-arming the auto industry, bailing out (and taking ownership) of failed businesses, including FIRING AN EMPLOYEE OF A BUSINESS that the WH should have NO business in doing... all that happened within months of each other. If that isn't the beginning of a massive shift, I don't know what is.
Humor aside, let's not all jump on the bad science bandwagon here. The title of the article and the description of the article are misleading. If you RTFA (I know, I should know better, this is /.), it clear states that two subspecies of birds with different colored bellies behaviorally aren't mating with each other. Splitting into new species? Clearly not. All this article argues is that it is the next step in evolutionary theory necessary. It doesn't mean it will actually happen.
And, as we all know, that part isn't news and has been observed before.
*yawn* Move along folks, nothing to see here.
As a side note, in TFA: "When two populations stop exchanging genes-that is, stop mating with each other-then they can be considered distinct species."
I'm clearly the same species as fat chicks.
I agree - but in our case the "system" is primarily private enterprise... and it did collapse. Which is good. Our government, though entangled, is still a mostly separate entity from the broader economy - so it survives when the economy crashes.
In the Soviet system, the government WAS the economy. When the economy crashed, so did the government. Or was it the other way around? You can't separate the two.
We're currently in a massive shift from private enterprise to "the government's bitch". In fact, I think spending trillions on a phantom "bailout" actually accomplishes the tie-in itself. We're spending money we don't have, when we're already way too far in a deficit we can't possibly pay back. It's all phantom dollars. Once our lenders decide to call it in, or once they realize how much our overinflated buck is actually worth -- POOF! I'm hesitant to call lended money that doesn't actually represent any real value a solid economy OR government.
It's really not just one administration's fault either. It's no argument the previous one gave it a good start down the hill, especially in the last 4 years. But the current one is kicking it the rest of the way. I know many will argue the current administration is full of minigods, but it's like saying Cleveland is awesome because it's not Detroit (I apologize to the Cleveland population).
And now, the two major parties - and the extremists on both sides of the population representing them - are in such a hissy fit with each other, they're ignoring what the consequences of their fights. Instead of collectively using differing perspectives to strengthen the quality of decisions made, everybody's ignoring proper practice, using illegal and hideous methods to push and prod their way through ridiculous legislation, unable to see past their own noses, and damn everybody who gets in their way (including the well-being of their own country and citizens).
Time to stop fighting children. Look at what we're doing.
Where the hell are all the aliens gonna hide now?
You're giving this abomination far too much credit.
To be fair, a typical machine idling uses about the same energy as 1 incandescent light bulb (60w - 75w). A typical machine under load is even comparable to the 100w bulbs. I'd imagine laptops to be less than that. So, I guess if you're playing Quake, turn the light off in the room and make up the difference.
... an explanation as to why so many WoW geeks shriek when they leave their parents'.... errrmmm.... their basements during the day.
Wow, that's a bit harsh. Who's the asshole again?...
To be fair, that does seems to be the conditions of so many of programming jobs nowadays...
Dogs are just big happy needy retarded children compliant by force and bribery/trickery.
Their neediness is what really turns me off....
I take it by your ignorance of how varied breeds are that you are one of those elitists that likes to claim that, just because they have a stubborn animal, they're SO much smarter than everything else. Would you call a mule smarter than a horse? Horses are much more trainable. Mules are smart? No. Are dolphins stupid? No.
Your logic on the situation is lacking.
But going back to dogs... really, there's a breed for almost everybody. If you want an aloof independent creature like a cat, there are tons of dog breeds out there that fit the bill. Try a Pekingese or a Basenji. I've had experience with Basenjis and I can testify to how "proper" and civilized they are. Incredibly smart, they hate messes, and are extremely independent. As a bonus, they will bark at intruders, where a cat will cover it's own ass and run like a little chickenshit, which makes a Basenji more dependable when you actually need them.
And yes, dogs will go in a litter box too.