Re:All I can say, I'm perfectly happy with my old
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All I can say, I'm perfectly happy with my old G3! (Score:0, Offtopic)
Um, hm...story's about Mac benchmarks, there's assholes posting whiny rants about how their oh-so-important stories about unrelated subjects didn't get posted, yet this post gets rated "Offtopic." Time to lay off the shrooms, man.
Bah, I'm a regular Apple user, and I've decided that Windows isn't half-bad. At least the error messages when something bombs out are more meaningful than "type 1".
K5 doesn't nearly have enough linux news, linux advocacy, first posts, hot grits, and Jon Katz. And everyone knows that's all that matters.
And what does matter is an endless number of posts trying to decide just how wrong the k5 FAQ is, how evil Christians are, and general wanking about how stupid Americans are from the viewpoint of people who have never been to America, or even met an American.
Oh, and k5'ers are highly intolerant of spamming. Of course, regular k5'ers would never spam other sites about k5...um, nevermind.
When I was running Mandrake Cooker, I knew quite a few people who had to frequently start from scratch and re-install. Then there were those of us who used apt-get.;-)
Re:alternative to nvidia linux only drivers?
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The BSD license Locks up any code so that people can't view it. It's just an easy way to commercialize and privatize code that was once free.
Um, not quite right...the BSD license allows people to make non-public changes to source code, and release software binary-only.
If you, the software author, don't really care if someone ships your project binary-only, and further, makes whatever changes they desire without sharing with you, then yes, the BSD license is more free. Releasing under the BSD license certainly makes more sense than releasing under the GPL, then turning your project into abandonware. Or releasing under the GPL, then giving blanket permission to do with the source as you wish.
Actually I was advocating Slack as a focused distro, not an "ultimate distro". It doesn't try to be one-size-fits-all. Those who like Slack's direction will be the most happy with it, but definitely not every Linux user.
I'm an on-again, off-again Slack user, and I don't see the focus you're talking about. It ships with packages to allow one to use Slack as a web server, etc. yet it also ships with packages for KDE and GNOME, as well as a number of things that just have Slack running all over the place.
So, what, it's more focused because it isn't as newbie-friendly?:-)
So for God's sake install telnet already and quit bitching! Are you too lazy to install it, or what?
$ which telnet
/usr/bin/telnet
$ rpm -ql telnet
/usr/bin/telnet
/usr/lib/menu/telnet
/usr/share/icons/large/telnet.xpm
/usr/share/icons/mini/telnet.xpm
/usr/share/icons/telnet.xpm
/usr/share/man/man1/telnet.1.bz2
Interesting...and this on a Mandrake box. And from a Mandrake package.
Look, I don't mean to sound harsh...but for God's sake, Mandrake isn't aimed at the one-size-fits-all distro market. And really, you do list some halfway-decent reasons for using telnet, but really, most people who are adequately served by Mandrake don't use telnet that often. What, you're running sendmail on Mandrake? Why? You're using a Mandrake box as a web server? Why?
I'll agree that it's a bit silly for distros to try to be one-size-fits-all, but...
First off, lets look at other distros. Redhat has a few install options, like workstation, server, etc. But then so does Mandrake. And so do others. Why? Isn't the point of distributions to be their own unique piece of the Linux pie? If all distros have the same sorts of install options, and all distros have many target platforms, and they support all desktop environments, then what's the point? There's no uniqueness.
Does RH have menu now? And you consider vast differences between distros to be a good thing? Get real.
I'll admit now that I'm not a GNOME fan. At one point I used Redhat (totally a GNOME-ish distro). One day, I found Mandrake and thought it might just be the KDE-version of Redhat. Boy was I wrong. Configuration is mostly Gtk, and a whole lot of work has been put into Mandrake to keep the menus synced between each Window Manager (and it comes with lots). I'll ask again, why? I haven't used the latest Mandrake, but 7.2 was a mess.
Erm, I fail to see the problem. At one point, yes, Mandrake was RH + KDE. So in the beginning, they used the RH config tools, which were a hodgepodge of GTK and TK. Now? GTK. And really, I'm happy to see that Mandrake isn't solely KDE-centric. They use the Debian-born menu system now, which can keep menus in sync between different windowmanagers/desktop environments. Can you explain why that's a bad thing?
Oh, and where did you get your copy of 7.2? If it says Macmillan anywhere on the box (if you got a box) you've got a beta release. 8.0 final and beyond are pretty nice, IMHO.
I later messed with SuSE. SuSE is a MUCH more focused distribution. Granted, it's KDE-centric, but hey, you GNOME folks have Redhat. For the record, anyone looking for a KDE-centric distro should look at SuSE.
Nice flamebait, BTW. I was actually looking for a desktop-centric, no-fuss distro. I found Mandrake. And yes, I could grab source tarballs and build my own system from scratch if I wanted to, which I don't. I don't want to spend my time off from work futzing with building libs and apps and diagnosing incompatibilities. I want a mostly-working system, which I've found.:-)
Maybe the distributions need a wide audience so they can guarantee more sales? Really, these desktop-distributions should not be targetting the server market, but they all do. This is nuts. Pick a goal guys.
I'm so torn on this one. On the one hand, it'd be nice to see distributions settle on one little area. On the other hand, different distributions couldn't be trusted to settle on conventions between different systems, so web-server-centric distros would have one config methodology, the file-sharing server distro would have another, the print-server distro yet another setup, the desktop distro yet another...
So now Mandrake will operate on PPC as well. Gee, another distro on the road to being the "ultimate distro". The trouble is that I don't think anyone wants an ultimate distro (I sure don't) that does everything to some extent, but nothing to the full extent.
Which is why I use Slackware. It does its job well.
Hm. A few points:
You say it does the job well, but fail to tell us what job it does well (for you). Since you're sure to be using it for the one area it excels at, what is it?
Last time I checked, Slack was not just x86, but also Alpha and Sparc. So it's not okay for Mandrake to be on more than one platform, but it is for your favorite distro, eh? Interesting. And why advocate one distro above all others when you don't want an "ultimate distro"?
Actually, I tend to agree that the usual plan is to get cut the sales staff when sales are down, but this sounds sensible, if it's merely for financial reasons. It comes from a (foreign to USians) simple theory that if the company is failing, it is being mismanaged, so management is to blame.
The bad thing about those quick glances is that you missed that they do massive contributions to WINE.
Then again, you got the score of 5 for the "look, it's bad for Linux 'coz it lets you use non-Open-Source software on Linux." I suppose you refuse to play Quake 3 Arena on Linux, too. And you never used Netscape 4.x. And never used StarOffice to deal with Office documents. Never used aviplay to play DivX;-) files. And so on.
One of the big complaints about Linux (and other free OSs) is the lack of commercial software. "Uh, we don't have the Sorenson codec for QuickTime, but Ogg Tarkin is gonna be l33t." Sure. So how is it I convert those Sorenson QuickTime files to Ogg Tarkin again? And how do I do it using 100% Open Source software? Oh, I don't because I'd have to use non-Free software and that's bad for Linux, eh? Sure. Whatever.
I see it as a good sign. People have an interest in seeing software "ported" to Linux. Means that there's an interest in marginalizing Windows. It's a first step. And frankly, I never understood why people had such a fit over WINE. Sure, there's a risk that developers won't port code over, and sure using binary drivers means you're stuck with x86 only. But WINE isn't just a binary abstraction layer; it's also winelib, a nice porting tool. Heck, if IE were ever to come over to Linux, what, you think Microsoft would pay people to remove all the Win32 API references and port it to, say, GTK+? LOL. How do you think IE was ported to Solaris?
why would i want to do away with IE when it works so fucking well?
I suppose it depends on what your definition of "works fo fucking well" is. Usually when I see that sort of statement, I automatically assume it's sarcasm, because I've had such horrible luck with IE in the past and in recent history. If you weren't intending to be sarcastic, my apologies.
Re:Prediction of posts here:
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You're also forgetting the "They should give up because IE is the best; why NS tries to compete with IE I'll never know, and Windows 2K never crashes for me" trolls.
And to be quite honest, you're dead-on there. The rest of the article was in the same tone: half-truths wrapped in a goofy rant. God, I wish I could get paid to write garbage like that.
Well, I suppose that Slashdot really is dead when such an uninformed post gets (5, Informative.)
Oh, I guess that because it praises WinXP, it gets a 5, because as everyone knows, Slashdot is now the mouthpiece of Microsoft marketing, even if the people in charge don't like MS.
I really doubt that you really have 8 final because I'm running Cooker and I haven't had whatever it is that crashes on you crash. The kernel panics? X crashes? What? What crashes? You haven't told us anything about what crashes, just that "it" crashes, whatever the hell it is. Konqueror crashes? What?
I agree that Mandrakesoft needed to do a bit more QA/debugging work before they did a release, but FWIW they seem to be trying to recover from the PR nightmare that Macmillan created for them with their 7.2RC Christmas release. If 8.0 final doesn't work for you so well, grab apt off of a Mandrake mirror, run 'apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade' and bring your system up to speed with the development release. It's not perfect (on my machine, KHTML seems to be broken, and libperl seems to have disappeared, which FWIW only affects Xchat) but it seems to be pretty solid overall.
Linux-Mandrake's development branch (Cooker) is apt-enabled. You can get apt from its contrib/ dir. I've been using cooker for a while, keeping it up to date with apt-get, and I can't complain.
Hello, just pointing out that the previous two comments (the essay, and the first comment) were originally posted on kuro5hin.org and are, unless posted by the original authors or with the original authors' permission, posted here illegally. I look forward to seeing the administrators removing the offending comments.
Oh wait, Big & Tough Slashdot doesn't remove copyright violations. My bad.
You know, you should go to your local newsstand and look at the selection of magazines on the stand. A magazine is considered to be successful if it makes money after four years of operation.
Re:Another Bogus Benefit of Free software.
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Oh come on, you're just mad because you haven't had hot sweaty man sex with ESR yet. Keep at it.
I mean, think about it. The author states that banner ads have a.2% click-through rate. In contrast,
-TV has 0% click-through.
-Radio has 0% click-through.
-Newspaper ads have 0% click-through.
-Magazine ads have 0% click-through.
-Billboards have 0% click-through.
-Transit advertising has 0% click-through.
-Direct mail (not email) has 0% click-through.
There you have it--based on click-through, banner ads are the most superior form of advertising! (NOTE: No, I'm not being an idiot, just making a statement on evaluating banner-ad effectiveness solely on click-through.)
Looks like you managed to find an old screenshot of mine. That one's a few months old; maybe I'll update it later today. For now, though, keep in mind that that screenshot dates back to at least January (back when Cooker was still numbered 7.3.)
Slashdot Mirror
Um, hm...story's about Mac benchmarks, there's assholes posting whiny rants about how their oh-so-important stories about unrelated subjects didn't get posted, yet this post gets rated "Offtopic." Time to lay off the shrooms, man.
Bah, I'm a regular Apple user, and I've decided that Windows isn't half-bad. At least the error messages when something bombs out are more meaningful than "type 1".
And what does matter is an endless number of posts trying to decide just how wrong the k5 FAQ is, how evil Christians are, and general wanking about how stupid Americans are from the viewpoint of people who have never been to America, or even met an American.
Oh, and k5'ers are highly intolerant of spamming. Of course, regular k5'ers would never spam other sites about k5...um, nevermind.
Always remember that 'fdisk /mbr' using Microsoft's fdisk writes a perfectly valid DOS bootloader to the mbr.
When I was running Mandrake Cooker, I knew quite a few people who had to frequently start from scratch and re-install. Then there were those of us who used apt-get. ;-)
I suppose you are vastly superior.
Um, not quite right...the BSD license allows people to make non-public changes to source code, and release software binary-only.
If you, the software author, don't really care if someone ships your project binary-only, and further, makes whatever changes they desire without sharing with you, then yes, the BSD license is more free. Releasing under the BSD license certainly makes more sense than releasing under the GPL, then turning your project into abandonware. Or releasing under the GPL, then giving blanket permission to do with the source as you wish.
I'm an on-again, off-again Slack user, and I don't see the focus you're talking about. It ships with packages to allow one to use Slack as a web server, etc. yet it also ships with packages for KDE and GNOME, as well as a number of things that just have Slack running all over the place.
So, what, it's more focused because it isn't as newbie-friendly?
$ which telnet
/usr/bin/telnet
$ rpm -ql telnet
/usr/bin/telnet
/usr/lib/menu/telnet
/usr/share/icons/large/telnet.xpm
/usr/share/icons/mini/telnet.xpm
/usr/share/icons/telnet.xpm
/usr/share/man/man1/telnet.1.bz2
Interesting...and this on a Mandrake box. And from a Mandrake package.
Look, I don't mean to sound harsh...but for God's sake, Mandrake isn't aimed at the one-size-fits-all distro market. And really, you do list some halfway-decent reasons for using telnet, but really, most people who are adequately served by Mandrake don't use telnet that often. What, you're running sendmail on Mandrake? Why? You're using a Mandrake box as a web server? Why?
Oh, and where did you get your copy of 7.2? If it says Macmillan anywhere on the box (if you got a box) you've got a beta release. 8.0 final and beyond are pretty nice, IMHO.
Nice flamebait, BTW. I was actually looking for a desktop-centric, no-fuss distro. I found Mandrake. And yes, I could grab source tarballs and build my own system from scratch if I wanted to, which I don't. I don't want to spend my time off from work futzing with building libs and apps and diagnosing incompatibilities. I want a mostly-working system, which I've found.You say it does the job well, but fail to tell us what job it does well (for you). Since you're sure to be using it for the one area it excels at, what is it?
Last time I checked, Slack was not just x86, but also Alpha and Sparc. So it's not okay for Mandrake to be on more than one platform, but it is for your favorite distro, eh? Interesting. And why advocate one distro above all others when you don't want an "ultimate distro"?
Come to think of it...nice troll. :-)
And thank God for that. Maybe people will stop using Telnet, finally.
Actually, I tend to agree that the usual plan is to get cut the sales staff when sales are down, but this sounds sensible, if it's merely for financial reasons. It comes from a (foreign to USians) simple theory that if the company is failing, it is being mismanaged, so management is to blame.
Then again, you got the score of 5 for the "look, it's bad for Linux 'coz it lets you use non-Open-Source software on Linux." I suppose you refuse to play Quake 3 Arena on Linux, too. And you never used Netscape 4.x. And never used StarOffice to deal with Office documents. Never used aviplay to play DivX
One of the big complaints about Linux (and other free OSs) is the lack of commercial software. "Uh, we don't have the Sorenson codec for QuickTime, but Ogg Tarkin is gonna be l33t." Sure. So how is it I convert those Sorenson QuickTime files to Ogg Tarkin again? And how do I do it using 100% Open Source software? Oh, I don't because I'd have to use non-Free software and that's bad for Linux, eh? Sure. Whatever.
I see it as a good sign. People have an interest in seeing software "ported" to Linux. Means that there's an interest in marginalizing Windows. It's a first step. And frankly, I never understood why people had such a fit over WINE. Sure, there's a risk that developers won't port code over, and sure using binary drivers means you're stuck with x86 only. But WINE isn't just a binary abstraction layer; it's also winelib, a nice porting tool. Heck, if IE were ever to come over to Linux, what, you think Microsoft would pay people to remove all the Win32 API references and port it to, say, GTK+? LOL. How do you think IE was ported to Solaris?
I suppose it depends on what your definition of "works fo fucking well" is. Usually when I see that sort of statement, I automatically assume it's sarcasm, because I've had such horrible luck with IE in the past and in recent history. If you weren't intending to be sarcastic, my apologies.
You're also forgetting the "They should give up because IE is the best; why NS tries to compete with IE I'll never know, and Windows 2K never crashes for me" trolls.
And to be quite honest, you're dead-on there. The rest of the article was in the same tone: half-truths wrapped in a goofy rant. God, I wish I could get paid to write garbage like that.
Oh, I guess that because it praises WinXP, it gets a 5, because as everyone knows, Slashdot is now the mouthpiece of Microsoft marketing, even if the people in charge don't like MS.
I really doubt that you really have 8 final because I'm running Cooker and I haven't had whatever it is that crashes on you crash. The kernel panics? X crashes? What? What crashes? You haven't told us anything about what crashes, just that "it" crashes, whatever the hell it is. Konqueror crashes? What?
I agree that Mandrakesoft needed to do a bit more QA/debugging work before they did a release, but FWIW they seem to be trying to recover from the PR nightmare that Macmillan created for them with their 7.2RC Christmas release. If 8.0 final doesn't work for you so well, grab apt off of a Mandrake mirror, run 'apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade' and bring your system up to speed with the development release. It's not perfect (on my machine, KHTML seems to be broken, and libperl seems to have disappeared, which FWIW only affects Xchat) but it seems to be pretty solid overall.
Linux-Mandrake's development branch (Cooker) is apt-enabled. You can get apt from its contrib/ dir. I've been using cooker for a while, keeping it up to date with apt-get, and I can't complain.
...but Yahoo! seems to have taken the site down. Thank you, Yahoo!
Hello, just pointing out that the previous two comments (the essay, and the first comment) were originally posted on kuro5hin.org and are, unless posted by the original authors or with the original authors' permission, posted here illegally. I look forward to seeing the administrators removing the offending comments.
Oh wait, Big & Tough Slashdot doesn't remove copyright violations. My bad.
You know, you should go to your local newsstand and look at the selection of magazines on the stand. A magazine is considered to be successful if it makes money after four years of operation.
Oh come on, you're just mad because you haven't had hot sweaty man sex with ESR yet. Keep at it.
I mean, think about it. The author states that banner ads have a .2% click-through rate. In contrast,
-TV has 0% click-through.
-Radio has 0% click-through.
-Newspaper ads have 0% click-through.
-Magazine ads have 0% click-through.
-Billboards have 0% click-through.
-Transit advertising has 0% click-through.
-Direct mail (not email) has 0% click-through.
There you have it--based on click-through, banner ads are the most superior form of advertising! (NOTE: No, I'm not being an idiot, just making a statement on evaluating banner-ad effectiveness solely on click-through.)
Great plan; too bad Mandrake is based on RH.
Looks like you managed to find an old screenshot of mine. That one's a few months old; maybe I'll update it later today. For now, though, keep in mind that that screenshot dates back to at least January (back when Cooker was still numbered 7.3.)