>that's not "Insightful," it didn't even answer the guy's question!
Sonded like an answer to me.:-P The question wasn't even a question; it was flamebait. All the so-called question was doing was implying that Slashdot (as if it were a single person, or something) thought that eye-candy in OS-X was bloat, and that the same thing in KDE was OK.
Well, it is OK in KDE, since you aren't stuck with the stupid eyecandy. I have a machine that only has 64MB of RAM; KDE2 runs fine on it. OSX needs 256MB of RAM. That's kinda extreme.
>that doesn't give you an excuse to write an evangelical flame in response to a legitimate question.
Okay, so you're stating that, since in your opinion the show will suck, that this isn't news, and that no-one else that reads Slashdot will care, either.
/*
It was obvious to me from the release of Star Wars (aka Episode 4, "The New Hope") in 1977 that George Lucas really wanted to make a Dune movie. It is ironic that when people now revisit Dune that Star Wars is the reference point they use to speak of it.
*/
It certainly is.:-)
You can also draw parallels between the Star Wars series and Isaac Asimov's Foundation series. Star Wars has Coruscant; the Foundation series has Trantor. Star Wars deals with the fall of a galactic government, the Foundation series deals with the fall of a galactic government. It remains to be seen, in the next two movies, if the Skywalker clan's saving the galaxy from itself is part of some spiritual part; I'm not sure how one could draw a parallel between Skywalker and Seldon.
Handy is typically used (in the U.S., at least) to refer to anything that makes life easier, as in, "Having a mobile phone is handier than having to use a payphone." I'm not sure the origin of that word.
"Speaking of idiots, what makes you qualified to speak? You aren't even employed or graduated from high school yet
(with apologies to other high school students.) Setting up a router in your house does not count."
Okay, I'm feeding the troll. What makes you qualified to speak? You're too fucking lazy to make an account. Who the hell cares about your opinion?
Seriously, I'm sure there are some other examples like these and it'd be fascinating to find out about these people. SE is a great skill that can either 1.) get you into a lot of trouble or 2.) into a decent sales career.;-)
>>FYI, my Windows 2000 crashes less than my Mandrake install (Don't flame me about using other distros).
Could you define less than never? Never as in, my Mandrake box never "crashes." And when can we get a copy of your Win2K? It sounds like yours might be better than Microsoft's.
/*On Debian, I've had a whopping lot more success running GNOME applications than I have had with KDE
applications; your "clearly superior" code has tended to suffer badly from segmentation faults. I've never
gotten any of the prepackaged KOffice stuff running. */
An excellent attempt at being a troll; you've made good use of the unwillingness of Debian packagers to make sure the dependencies and packages for KDE are up-to-date (so that it could possibly run without segfaulting) since we're still supposed to be punishing the KDE team for past transgressions (can you show me some legal documents on "past transgressions"?) without ever mentioning it. It's nice to see that people have learned to use tricks from the political arena when dealing with software matters. You've brightened my day.
The laptop's stupid *what*? Pathetic battery? Keyboard? Expensive screen? You've implied that there's something stupid about the laptop, but haven't told us what it is.
I don't understand. Perhaps I should throw my mid-tower machine out the window--the company that sold it to me won't support Linux or FreeBSD.
Honestly, folks--the free OS community has been dealing with this sort of thing for *years*, and I don't know about the FreeBSD crowd, but I know the Linux crowd tends to migrate toward companies who at least sell laptops that run Linux.
I fail to see the story here. Try posting it on k5--I'm sure it'd go down in flames. Too bad that's not an option on/.
"Applixware is arguably the most stable and mature Linux office suite available, but it will no longer be aggressively marketed as a desktop product, according to VistaSource marketing vice president R.J. Grandpre."
Now, someone riddle me this: since when does "no longer be agressively marketed" mean "no longer produced"? Is this just a poorly written article (yes) or even more likely just the typical knee-jerk/. post?
Yeah, I know, that only works with the real Acrobat Reader. The solution is less than optimal, but simple: substitute Helvetica for Arial, Times for Times New Roman...if you're working on a free pdf reader/writer, it might help to look at what AbiWord is using in place of those fonts (though I know little of such matters.)
Not many, especially since the software isn't available. It's a vicious cycle--people don't do dtp in Linux since there's no software, and companies don't port to Linux since there aren't any people using Linux to do dtp. Linux is growing in the production side of printing, but it can't and won't grow on the dtp side unless some company grows some juevos and just PORTS.
Frankly, I'm a dtp person first, and a Linux person second, and I'll tell you, I think you're underestimating the typical dtp person. Anyone who can diagnose postscript problems, can write AppleScript, etc. can handle a Linux box with a reasonable level of competence. Give someone an already-set-up Linux box, booting to runlevel 5 and running either KDE or GNOME, and they'll be able to handle it IMHO. I know I have little difficulty (and you so conveniently lumped me into the category of "too clueless to EVER use a UN*X box.)
/*
* Inferior architecture - I've used Corel Photopaint on Linux, and it looks very ugly because of the lack of things like
anti-aliasing (in the OS, not at a user level - the program looks ugly).
*/
Ignorance is bliss, isn't it. Funny thing about Linux; the poor graphics quality you speak of isn't part of the OS at all. Blame XFree. Frankly, I don't know what you're talking about here; antialiasing seems to work just fine under Photopaint for me.
And frankly, antialiasing with hardware support(!) is in the works for XFree. =)
/*This is a *good* and brave decision - it's better to write the money off than to pour money into the Linux blackhole of
giveaway software (Photopaint, etc.) - we don't want Adobe going the way of Corel.
*/
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. No points for you. There is no REQUIREMENT that all software under Linux be free from cost. Go back and read that again. If you try to claim that all Linux software must be free from *cost*, I'll smack you. Some people claim (through a series of logic misleaps) that since Linux systems are typically so GNU-based, and since the GNU System is a collection of software (much of which Linux boxen use typically) that all software on a Linux box must be free (as in speech, i.e. the source must be available to the user.) The zealots like these seem to get some perverted thrill flooding the inboxes of companies that write proprietary software, which causes companies to shy away (Apple's Quicktime is a good example.) Corel, in their eyes, has done two things wrong with Photopaint: They haven't released the source, and they left it based on the Win32 API (even further, it's still a mostly-Windows binary, which is a third strike against them from the PPC, Sparc, Alpha, etc. users.) Companies fear bad PR. It's a healthy fear.
I suppose that if people like you get to be in charge, when I set up my shop, I'll just have to become a l33t hax0r and hack WINE and/or maconlinux (or whatever it's called) so I can run Photoshop, Illustrator, QuarkXPress, etc. on Linux boxen. Better yet, get some investors and start writing opensourced alternatives (complete with Windows/Mac ports)--and put the clueless bastards out of business.
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>that's not "Insightful," it didn't even answer the guy's question!
:-P The question wasn't even a question; it was flamebait. All the so-called question was doing was implying that Slashdot (as if it were a single person, or something) thought that eye-candy in OS-X was bloat, and that the same thing in KDE was OK.
Sonded like an answer to me.
Well, it is OK in KDE, since you aren't stuck with the stupid eyecandy. I have a machine that only has 64MB of RAM; KDE2 runs fine on it. OSX needs 256MB of RAM. That's kinda extreme.
>that doesn't give you an excuse to write an evangelical flame in response to a legitimate question.
Again, there was no question; just metatrolling.
When you consider that nothing about the Windows UI is original, one has to wonder what makes copying a copied interface so wrong.
Well, happily, many people who run for CS just to make tons of money never get past the first year.
Erm,
Okay, so you're stating that, since in your opinion the show will suck, that this isn't news, and that no-one else that reads Slashdot will care, either.
I care, so shut up.
/*
:-)
It was obvious to me from the release of Star Wars (aka Episode 4, "The New Hope") in 1977 that George Lucas really wanted to make a Dune movie. It is ironic that when people now revisit Dune that Star Wars is the reference point they use to speak of it.
*/
It certainly is.
You can also draw parallels between the Star Wars series and Isaac Asimov's Foundation series. Star Wars has Coruscant; the Foundation series has Trantor. Star Wars deals with the fall of a galactic government, the Foundation series deals with the fall of a galactic government. It remains to be seen, in the next two movies, if the Skywalker clan's saving the galaxy from itself is part of some spiritual part; I'm not sure how one could draw a parallel between Skywalker and Seldon.
Good for you.
:-P
Your post helps show why we need moderation.
Hah.
Hows that for a low UID?
D'oh!
Goddamn it...
:-/
Now I gotta get mean. I have goatse.cx in my hosts file as 127.0.0.1 and that damned link STILL worked.
Handy is typically used (in the U.S., at least) to refer to anything that makes life easier, as in, "Having a mobile phone is handier than having to use a payphone." I'm not sure the origin of that word.
"You means US English (as opposed to British English). "
Over here, on the other side of the pond, we would say "You mean US English."
...the percentage of Enlish-speaking Americans declined while the percentage of Spanish-speaking Americans increased.
Hey, if timothy can post BS, I can too.
Funny how reading the story would have given you a clue. *chuckles*
Heh, sad that this is news? :-)
"Speaking of idiots, what makes you qualified to speak? You aren't even employed or graduated from high school yet
(with apologies to other high school students.) Setting up a router in your house does not count."
Okay, I'm feeding the troll. What makes you qualified to speak? You're too fucking lazy to make an account. Who the hell cares about your opinion?
for the American series "The Pretender"?
;-)
Seriously, I'm sure there are some other examples like these and it'd be fascinating to find out about these people. SE is a great skill that can either 1.) get you into a lot of trouble or 2.) into a decent sales career.
>>FYI, my Windows 2000 crashes less than my Mandrake install (Don't flame me about using other distros).
Could you define less than never? Never as in, my Mandrake box never "crashes." And when can we get a copy of your Win2K? It sounds like yours might be better than Microsoft's.
/*On Debian, I've had a whopping lot more success running GNOME applications than I have had with KDE
applications; your "clearly superior" code has tended to suffer badly from segmentation faults. I've never
gotten any of the prepackaged KOffice stuff running. */
An excellent attempt at being a troll; you've made good use of the unwillingness of Debian packagers to make sure the dependencies and packages for KDE are up-to-date (so that it could possibly run without segfaulting) since we're still supposed to be punishing the KDE team for past transgressions (can you show me some legal documents on "past transgressions"?) without ever mentioning it. It's nice to see that people have learned to use tricks from the political arena when dealing with software matters. You've brightened my day.
Hrm.
>IT'S THE LAPTOP'S STUPID!!
The laptop's stupid *what*? Pathetic battery? Keyboard? Expensive screen? You've implied that there's something stupid about the laptop, but haven't told us what it is.
Okay, define real content.
Which of course explains why Wal-Mart is in on the Linux game.
I don't understand. Perhaps I should throw my mid-tower machine out the window--the company that sold it to me won't support Linux or FreeBSD.
/.
Honestly, folks--the free OS community has been dealing with this sort of thing for *years*, and I don't know about the FreeBSD crowd, but I know the Linux crowd tends to migrate toward companies who at least sell laptops that run Linux.
I fail to see the story here. Try posting it on k5--I'm sure it'd go down in flames. Too bad that's not an option on
Now, someone riddle me this: since when does "no longer be agressively marketed" mean "no longer produced"? Is this just a poorly written article (yes) or even more likely just the typical knee-jerk /. post?
// How many dtp people use Linux?
Not many, especially since the software isn't available. It's a vicious cycle--people don't do dtp in Linux since there's no software, and companies don't port to Linux since there aren't any people using Linux to do dtp. Linux is growing in the production side of printing, but it can't and won't grow on the dtp side unless some company grows some juevos and just PORTS.
Frankly, I'm a dtp person first, and a Linux person second, and I'll tell you, I think you're underestimating the typical dtp person. Anyone who can diagnose postscript problems, can write AppleScript, etc. can handle a Linux box with a reasonable level of competence. Give someone an already-set-up Linux box, booting to runlevel 5 and running either KDE or GNOME, and they'll be able to handle it IMHO. I know I have little difficulty (and you so conveniently lumped me into the category of "too clueless to EVER use a UN*X box.)
/*
* Inferior architecture - I've used Corel Photopaint on Linux, and it looks very ugly because of the lack of things like
anti-aliasing (in the OS, not at a user level - the program looks ugly).
*/
Ignorance is bliss, isn't it. Funny thing about Linux; the poor graphics quality you speak of isn't part of the OS at all. Blame XFree. Frankly, I don't know what you're talking about here; antialiasing seems to work just fine under Photopaint for me.
And frankly, antialiasing with hardware support(!) is in the works for XFree. =)
/*This is a *good* and brave decision - it's better to write the money off than to pour money into the Linux blackhole of
giveaway software (Photopaint, etc.) - we don't want Adobe going the way of Corel.
*/
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. No points for you. There is no REQUIREMENT that all software under Linux be free from cost. Go back and read that again. If you try to claim that all Linux software must be free from *cost*, I'll smack you. Some people claim (through a series of logic misleaps) that since Linux systems are typically so GNU-based, and since the GNU System is a collection of software (much of which Linux boxen use typically) that all software on a Linux box must be free (as in speech, i.e. the source must be available to the user.) The zealots like these seem to get some perverted thrill flooding the inboxes of companies that write proprietary software, which causes companies to shy away (Apple's Quicktime is a good example.) Corel, in their eyes, has done two things wrong with Photopaint: They haven't released the source, and they left it based on the Win32 API (even further, it's still a mostly-Windows binary, which is a third strike against them from the PPC, Sparc, Alpha, etc. users.) Companies fear bad PR. It's a healthy fear.
I suppose that if people like you get to be in charge, when I set up my shop, I'll just have to become a l33t hax0r and hack WINE and/or maconlinux (or whatever it's called) so I can run Photoshop, Illustrator, QuarkXPress, etc. on Linux boxen. Better yet, get some investors and start writing opensourced alternatives (complete with Windows/Mac ports)--and put the clueless bastards out of business.