Call me a jerk, but I found a lot of what was said to be totally accurate. I tried to love Gentoo, off and on, for three years. While it's true that you can start on a fairly complete base system, and while it's true that there are tools available such as glsa-check now and revdep-rebuild (to say nothing of the joys of being able to unmask only what you want to have as totally bleeding-edge) it's true that it's it's a major time sink.
I'll be more than happy to let the folks at Canoical, Red Hat, Novell, or wherever be the ones to put in several hours of work; I simply can't, at home, put in the hours required to maintain a "stable" system. When I quit using Gentoo a couple of years ago, it was to the point where I'd search the forums before I'd ever install a piece of software. And you know what? That gets old. Real old. Especially if you're sitting in front of what should be a desktop machine and you're waiting for revdep-rebuild to rebuild a couple dozen packages because libpng applied a non-backwards-compatible patch that fixed a major security flaw.
Sorry, kids, but although I can deal with running a Gentoo system, I choose to run Kubuntu 6.10. Not because I'm too much of a wuss to run Gentoo, or because I'm too stupid to run anything other than Ubuntu, but because I'd rather spend the hour or so of computer time I have at home some days getting pix and video of my adorable girl (now at toddler age) ready for the grandparents. Not glamorous, and doesn't help push the state of the art, but it's much more gratifying than, say (I'm making this one up), trying to chase down the ruby package maintainer to get him to apply a patch so that you can use Getopt::Long without having to edit files by hand.;-)
Why, when you have an OS that has support for a lot of hardware, modern niceties such as hotplugging hardware, building blocks such as X11 and standards-compliant building blocks such as CUPS, why must that be ditched in favor of a from-scratch effort such as ReactOS? Or why should it be a necessity to target a server-targeted OS such as FreeBSD?
Indeed, most those references are old, and the replies to yours list cable shows, such as Galactica, Deadwood, and others.
I wish I could say I knew of a non-crap show, but I really don't. Even shows I try to catch once in a while are crap. Then again, TV has largely been crap since TV came to be. Even Galactica, my current favorite, is crap. I mean, c'mon, they didn't have any failsafes built into their 'droids? And the only way to build a networked computer system is to leave it so open that any virus broadcast over radio will work? C'mon.
I suppose you want the Starship Enterprise to go boldly.
Repeat after me: Unless we're talking about a romance language, there's nothing wrong with a split infinitive. It wouldn't be permissible in those languages, largely because it wouldn't be possible. But English is not a romance language, therefore rules of Latin do not apply, you pedantic git.
"What "anything" could be that would require him to have our passwords is never stated, and the answer is evaded when the question is asked."
Where I work, "in case anything happens" includes things like death, illness, resignation or termination, "anything" like that. And nevermind the cheerful people who cheerfully write down passwords, enter them, then cheerfully lose and forget the password, only to be prompted months later and come to the IT guy for password recovery. Brilliant. Or how about the people who, when presented with the mail admin's requirement of 'six characters and a digit' respond with 'pete'? To be cruel, I generate passwords; to be kind, it's a sort-of-pronounceable routine that, by default, fulfills the requirement listed above. Some people balk at having someone like me having the passwords to all their email accounts...but since it's an office full of old MacOS 9 machines and OS X and Windows machines that are never logged out, auto-login, and where only my machine has password locking enabled on the screensaver, there are far easier ways for people to read the email.
And hey, once in a while, our ISP requests that we send them an Excel doc with usernames and passwords to check against their records. Back when I started at this place, that would have involved a lengthy series of department-head meetings, mostly to determine whose schlong was longer and stouter. This way, I can send it on, no need for a lengthy meeting, no one need be bothered, have a nice day.
Some asshat decided to let people pick their own voicemail passwords, and the joy that causes every time someone quits in a huff...I tell ya, some people are a waste of oxygen.
Letting employees pick their own passwords for everything and allowing them to keep secrets is about as dumb as letting the employees have their own locks installed on the building doors.
The raving fanboys hate Microsoft when the story is about Windows, security, stability, applications, business practices, etc.
However, when the story is about gaming, everything else is a moot point.
I notice the same thing with raving GNU loons. I've seen name-calling, tantrum-throwing, etc. in forums devoted to Linux when proprietary software is brought up, yet some of these same people are more than happy to throw a party when some gaming company does a native port to Linux. The only exception is Cedega (the proprietary WINE gaming fork) but only because it allows for non-native (Windows) games to be played on x86 Linux machines without anyone porting the game first.
Amen. Every time I see a story hyping Blu-ray I think of Laserdisc. And anyone who's watched a movie on Laserdisc can properly gripe about the average DVD's poor quality, as good Laserdisc transfers are awesome. Nobody wanted to watch 'movies on record', as I often heard them called.
Can anyone confirm--the latest release of 'A New Hope', does it include the on-set audio and original director's commentary?
If you're constantly switching context, someone messed up. Big time.
I work in a totally different business, a newspaper office to be exact, and sometimes it seems like all I do is switch context. And it's always because someone fucked up. Every time. Maybe someone forgot to tell our department that there was a publication going to print today. Or maybe someone forgot to turn in the paperwork for an ad that runs tomorrow and they need the proof right now. Or maybe they're just idiots and have to explain everything verbally the moment they think of it (think mental diarrhea).
To my mind, yes, I should be able to switch context, and do so often. However, I'm still more than happy to point out that someone fucked up and that needs to be addressed so it stops happening.
There must be a middle ground, and once you reach it (as we have very nearly done here) things will be much happier. Maybe not as smooth as you'd like, and maybe the bean counters and paper pushers won't like the process being so chaotic, but once you reach that middle ground, things aren't exactly bliss, but they're a lot more fun.:-)
So how do you maintain context when things are sheer chaos, anyway? I dunno; tell me when you get it figured out. *wink* Seriously, if you're an OS X user, at the very least keep Stickies running and make a note about what you were doing before you switch. Or write it down on a piece of paper. Sure, use a 3x5 index card with your neato space pen if you think Merlin Mann is God. Or if you're an Emacs nerd, try keeping a todo list via org-mode. Whatever you do, do something to maintain some sanity.
And if you're not a manager, bug your manager to bug their managers to start getting things organized, make salespeople be polite about butting in, and so on; we're not talking about drastic change here (unless, like here, your salespeople have the manners and attention span of five-year-olds.)
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I think once YARV is ready for general consumption, it'll take off like wildfire. They're doing a lot of cleanup, and it'll be considerably faster than the current Ruby.
Once you look beyond Rails, you find it's a great language. Whether it'll overtake Perl and/or Python remains to be seen, but for what little scripting I do on a regular basis, I'd die if I had to use anything other than Ruby.
True, Ruby is slow, and I'm looking forward to 2.0. But to misquote Guido, sometimes it's Fast Enough. I've done a few things here at work where rewrites in faster languages were negligibly faster, really. It all depends on what you're trying to do, and how over-engineered your solution is;-)
Yeah, I think people actually think that JFS for Linux is the AIX JFS, when really it's a close cousin to the JFS that was developed for OS/2.
I keep meaning to try it out; it sounds great, but people get so wound up over the EXT3 vs. ReiserFS that other systems tend to get forgotten. Plus people went all giddy when XFS was released for Linux...JFS just wasn't as hyped-up as the others.
Yes, and while we're at it, let's convince companies that they should do away with billing software that was last updated in 1984 but nonetheless comes with a hefty support contract, largely because the software sucks. And while we're at it, let's ask the bean counters for a pony, because they love being asked to spend money that doesn't have an immediate measurable benefit and love giving the green light to a cheaper, untried solution over an expensive, tried system.
See, I think I'm stumbling on to why Western businesses are beginning to fail.
Agreed. In the late 70s and through most the 80s, any self-respecting computer manufacturer shipped some sort of BASIC interpreter, and Apple even built a DOS around BASIC.
The historical irony is that Microsoft, whose main claim to fame was tight BASIC interpreters, is the company I feel is most responsible for killing BASIC. It's hard to convince people to buy and use Office when you can write a short BASIC program to track your small-business data.;-)
Granted, these days I'd rather see kids get involved in Python or Ruby development, and I'll have to say that good ol' line-number GOTO-ridden BASIC probably killed more than a few of my braincells, but I find that to be the biggest problem. Secondary would be that schools feel the need to teach about business software instead of about writing custom software. Speaking purely from a USian perspective, or some reason, in a competitive international workspace, we USians feel that kids need to be ready for low-level data entry. U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
I've seen this for years. Someone comes up with a piece of software to make up for a Microsoft product oversight and/or shortcoming. They start pulling in green, someone at Microsoft says, "Hm, we should be doing that," and when Microsoft ships it, the tears and/or lawsuits start.
And I never feel sorry for the little guy, because, in my opinion, they were just the lamphreys attaching themselves to MS. Does that make me heartless?
Wouldn't know about the first part, but the second part...no surprise. What they'll do eventually is come up with something that replicates 95% of the functionality of Fink, pkgsrc, and DarwinPorts while being not only incompatible, but will actually break all three.
I have to say 'amen' to everything Linus said. It must be said. I was using Kubuntu up until recently, and switched back to Ubuntu proper not because I love GNOME, but because the release managers chose to treat Kubuntu as if it were a red-headed stepchild.
Ahem.
The print dialog is a great example! In Windows and OS X, I have handy Properties buttons that allow me to get at the printer settings. Where are they in GNOME? I'm currently using TurboPrint, so I have to fire up the TurboPrint Setup program just to change paper type and resolution. Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! Boneheaded! Ass-backwards! Usability nightmare! Dumb! Contrary to the Rule of Least Surprise! The first time I wanted to print to glossy paper, I expected to need to change my printer settings--so I went through every possible pane and setting looking for what I missed, over and over. WHERE IS IT???!? Turns out it's not there, apparently by design.
Oh, don't bother talking with a hardcore GNOME dev about it, especially not on IRC. I truly wish I'd logged this one, so it's from memory...my apologies. I'll label me as "me" (Rule of Least Surprise) and the GNOME dev as "bonehead" (applying the rule again.)
[me] So where's the printer-specific options [bonehead] they're not there [me] why [bonehead] they're not there for usability reasons [bonehead] essentially it leads to user confusion to have that many options [bonehead] it's a good thing for the typical user [me] but I'd like to see it and I think I'm a typical user [bonehead] no you're not [bonehead] look you're on irc you can't be a typical user ...
Look, I'm not anti-user or anti-usability and I'm not even saying that usability is a bad goal. All I'm saying is that leaving something out (or in some cases, ripping features out) as opposed to making the features easier to understand is pretty goddamn stupid. And defining your goals based on the lowest common denominator and calling that "the average user" is an insult to average and above-average users everywhere.
Seriously, where are the hordes of drooling morons using GNOME? Those people who think mauve has the most RAM and that throwing files away will give them more memory, who somehow ended up with a GNOME desktop? Will removing options really suddenly make Uncle Dimwit realize that the filesystem has nothing to do with RAM? Well, will it?
The state is leaking money and jobs like a sieve, you keep pushing for more state programs and jobs to be done away with, and not only do you waste taxpayers' money by flying between Chicago and Springfield all the time, now you're wasting your time with this stupid-ass videogame law!
Just remember Mr. Blagojevich, your time in office is coming to an end. Thank God.
I haven't played a purely text-based adventure in years, sadly (other than wasting time at work with Adventure) but it makes perfect sense.
I mean, think about this: millions of dollars were spent producing the game engine for Tribes 2. Was it a popular game? Sure, but so was Zork, and nobody will ever convince me that the Zork engine was expensive.
Plus, how many people who've fragged a few people in a deathmatch can still enjoy reading? Ayuh, I thought so.
Just try to keep an open mind about it; I remember playing these games and having great fun, although some of the things that others have pointed out here (illogical puzzles, being forced to talk to every-frickin-other-character, weird grammar, etc.) are certainly true.
Miguel isn't important???!? Mono isn't an issue?????!?
What the hell are you smoking?
C'mon. Look at all the truly interesting stuff that people are clamoring for. GNOME fanboys I know play their music in Muine, keep their various notes in Tomboy, and are just dying to index their stuff using Beagle. And I hate to point it out, but F-Spot is in the official GNOME CVS.
Take a look at this http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=9780">stor y now several months old listing SEVERAL Mono-based apps. You think Mono's just going to be a minor footnote in the history of Free Software? Especially with Novell employing core GNOME people? You're deluding yourself.
As we learned with KDE, people flock to legally encumbered Free Software for some reason.
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Call me a jerk, but I found a lot of what was said to be totally accurate. I tried to love Gentoo, off and on, for three years. While it's true that you can start on a fairly complete base system, and while it's true that there are tools available such as glsa-check now and revdep-rebuild (to say nothing of the joys of being able to unmask only what you want to have as totally bleeding-edge) it's true that it's it's a major time sink.
;-)
I'll be more than happy to let the folks at Canoical, Red Hat, Novell, or wherever be the ones to put in several hours of work; I simply can't, at home, put in the hours required to maintain a "stable" system. When I quit using Gentoo a couple of years ago, it was to the point where I'd search the forums before I'd ever install a piece of software. And you know what? That gets old. Real old. Especially if you're sitting in front of what should be a desktop machine and you're waiting for revdep-rebuild to rebuild a couple dozen packages because libpng applied a non-backwards-compatible patch that fixed a major security flaw.
Sorry, kids, but although I can deal with running a Gentoo system, I choose to run Kubuntu 6.10. Not because I'm too much of a wuss to run Gentoo, or because I'm too stupid to run anything other than Ubuntu, but because I'd rather spend the hour or so of computer time I have at home some days getting pix and video of my adorable girl (now at toddler age) ready for the grandparents. Not glamorous, and doesn't help push the state of the art, but it's much more gratifying than, say (I'm making this one up), trying to chase down the ruby package maintainer to get him to apply a patch so that you can use Getopt::Long without having to edit files by hand.
Why, when you have an OS that has support for a lot of hardware, modern niceties such as hotplugging hardware, building blocks such as X11 and standards-compliant building blocks such as CUPS, why must that be ditched in favor of a from-scratch effort such as ReactOS? Or why should it be a necessity to target a server-targeted OS such as FreeBSD?
Indeed, most those references are old, and the replies to yours list cable shows, such as Galactica, Deadwood, and others.
I wish I could say I knew of a non-crap show, but I really don't. Even shows I try to catch once in a while are crap. Then again, TV has largely been crap since TV came to be. Even Galactica, my current favorite, is crap. I mean, c'mon, they didn't have any failsafes built into their 'droids? And the only way to build a networked computer system is to leave it so open that any virus broadcast over radio will work? C'mon.
Heh, and I think your .sig sums it up well on Perl. :->
And you may have hit the nail on the head on the state of software development.
I suppose you want the Starship Enterprise to go boldly.
Repeat after me: Unless we're talking about a romance language, there's nothing wrong with a split infinitive. It wouldn't be permissible in those languages, largely because it wouldn't be possible. But English is not a romance language, therefore rules of Latin do not apply, you pedantic git.
Hell, for a while they were blocking port 22, so it's not just email. That made ssh'ing into work, well, impossible. I was a happy customer, yesiree.
"What "anything" could be that would require him to have our passwords is never stated, and the answer is evaded when the question is asked."
Where I work, "in case anything happens" includes things like death, illness, resignation or termination, "anything" like that. And nevermind the cheerful people who cheerfully write down passwords, enter them, then cheerfully lose and forget the password, only to be prompted months later and come to the IT guy for password recovery. Brilliant. Or how about the people who, when presented with the mail admin's requirement of 'six characters and a digit' respond with 'pete'? To be cruel, I generate passwords; to be kind, it's a sort-of-pronounceable routine that, by default, fulfills the requirement listed above. Some people balk at having someone like me having the passwords to all their email accounts...but since it's an office full of old MacOS 9 machines and OS X and Windows machines that are never logged out, auto-login, and where only my machine has password locking enabled on the screensaver, there are far easier ways for people to read the email.
And hey, once in a while, our ISP requests that we send them an Excel doc with usernames and passwords to check against their records. Back when I started at this place, that would have involved a lengthy series of department-head meetings, mostly to determine whose schlong was longer and stouter. This way, I can send it on, no need for a lengthy meeting, no one need be bothered, have a nice day.
Some asshat decided to let people pick their own voicemail passwords, and the joy that causes every time someone quits in a huff...I tell ya, some people are a waste of oxygen.
Letting employees pick their own passwords for everything and allowing them to keep secrets is about as dumb as letting the employees have their own locks installed on the building doors.
Easy!
The raving fanboys hate Microsoft when the story is about Windows, security, stability, applications, business practices, etc.
However, when the story is about gaming, everything else is a moot point.
I notice the same thing with raving GNU loons. I've seen name-calling, tantrum-throwing, etc. in forums devoted to Linux when proprietary software is brought up, yet some of these same people are more than happy to throw a party when some gaming company does a native port to Linux. The only exception is Cedega (the proprietary WINE gaming fork) but only because it allows for non-native (Windows) games to be played on x86 Linux machines without anyone porting the game first.
Amen. Every time I see a story hyping Blu-ray I think of Laserdisc. And anyone who's watched a movie on Laserdisc can properly gripe about the average DVD's poor quality, as good Laserdisc transfers are awesome. Nobody wanted to watch 'movies on record', as I often heard them called.
Can anyone confirm--the latest release of 'A New Hope', does it include the on-set audio and original director's commentary?
If you're constantly switching context, someone messed up. Big time.
:-)
I work in a totally different business, a newspaper office to be exact, and sometimes it seems like all I do is switch context. And it's always because someone fucked up. Every time. Maybe someone forgot to tell our department that there was a publication going to print today. Or maybe someone forgot to turn in the paperwork for an ad that runs tomorrow and they need the proof right now. Or maybe they're just idiots and have to explain everything verbally the moment they think of it (think mental diarrhea).
To my mind, yes, I should be able to switch context, and do so often. However, I'm still more than happy to point out that someone fucked up and that needs to be addressed so it stops happening.
There must be a middle ground, and once you reach it (as we have very nearly done here) things will be much happier. Maybe not as smooth as you'd like, and maybe the bean counters and paper pushers won't like the process being so chaotic, but once you reach that middle ground, things aren't exactly bliss, but they're a lot more fun.
So how do you maintain context when things are sheer chaos, anyway? I dunno; tell me when you get it figured out. *wink* Seriously, if you're an OS X user, at the very least keep Stickies running and make a note about what you were doing before you switch. Or write it down on a piece of paper. Sure, use a 3x5 index card with your neato space pen if you think Merlin Mann is God. Or if you're an Emacs nerd, try keeping a todo list via org-mode. Whatever you do, do something to maintain some sanity.
And if you're not a manager, bug your manager to bug their managers to start getting things organized, make salespeople be polite about butting in, and so on; we're not talking about drastic change here (unless, like here, your salespeople have the manners and attention span of five-year-olds.)
I think once YARV is ready for general consumption, it'll take off like wildfire. They're doing a lot of cleanup, and it'll be considerably faster than the current Ruby.
Once you look beyond Rails, you find it's a great language. Whether it'll overtake Perl and/or Python remains to be seen, but for what little scripting I do on a regular basis, I'd die if I had to use anything other than Ruby.
True, Ruby is slow, and I'm looking forward to 2.0. But to misquote Guido, sometimes it's Fast Enough. I've done a few things here at work where rewrites in faster languages were negligibly faster, really. It all depends on what you're trying to do, and how over-engineered your solution is ;-)
Yeah, I think people actually think that JFS for Linux is the AIX JFS, when really it's a close cousin to the JFS that was developed for OS/2.
I keep meaning to try it out; it sounds great, but people get so wound up over the EXT3 vs. ReiserFS that other systems tend to get forgotten. Plus people went all giddy when XFS was released for Linux...JFS just wasn't as hyped-up as the others.
A few stupid videos, some music, a couple of shellscripts (one for work, one left over from apt-zip) and a Subversion repository.
Yes, and while we're at it, let's convince companies that they should do away with billing software that was last updated in 1984 but nonetheless comes with a hefty support contract, largely because the software sucks. And while we're at it, let's ask the bean counters for a pony, because they love being asked to spend money that doesn't have an immediate measurable benefit and love giving the green light to a cheaper, untried solution over an expensive, tried system.
See, I think I'm stumbling on to why Western businesses are beginning to fail.
Except for the annoying detail that you're dead wrong, you...um, I'm sorry, I guess you don't have a valid point. Bad luck.
Googling (hah!) reveals a PPC winelib port dating back to 2000.
Agreed. In the late 70s and through most the 80s, any self-respecting computer manufacturer shipped some sort of BASIC interpreter, and Apple even built a DOS around BASIC.
;-)
The historical irony is that Microsoft, whose main claim to fame was tight BASIC interpreters, is the company I feel is most responsible for killing BASIC. It's hard to convince people to buy and use Office when you can write a short BASIC program to track your small-business data.
Granted, these days I'd rather see kids get involved in Python or Ruby development, and I'll have to say that good ol' line-number GOTO-ridden BASIC probably killed more than a few of my braincells, but I find that to be the biggest problem. Secondary would be that schools feel the need to teach about business software instead of about writing custom software. Speaking purely from a USian perspective, or some reason, in a competitive international workspace, we USians feel that kids need to be ready for low-level data entry. U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Just what I was thinking.
I've seen this for years. Someone comes up with a piece of software to make up for a Microsoft product oversight and/or shortcoming. They start pulling in green, someone at Microsoft says, "Hm, we should be doing that," and when Microsoft ships it, the tears and/or lawsuits start.
And I never feel sorry for the little guy, because, in my opinion, they were just the lamphreys attaching themselves to MS. Does that make me heartless?
LOL.
Wouldn't know about the first part, but the second part...no surprise. What they'll do eventually is come up with something that replicates 95% of the functionality of Fink, pkgsrc, and DarwinPorts while being not only incompatible, but will actually break all three.
That's my prediction, at least...
Not even a contender for the PDF crown. If you need the reasons spelled out for you, you don't need PDF anyway. A nice idea, though.
I have to say 'amen' to everything Linus said. It must be said. I was using Kubuntu up until recently, and switched back to Ubuntu proper not because I love GNOME, but because the release managers chose to treat Kubuntu as if it were a red-headed stepchild.
...
Ahem.
The print dialog is a great example! In Windows and OS X, I have handy Properties buttons that allow me to get at the printer settings. Where are they in GNOME? I'm currently using TurboPrint, so I have to fire up the TurboPrint Setup program just to change paper type and resolution. Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! Boneheaded! Ass-backwards! Usability nightmare! Dumb! Contrary to the Rule of Least Surprise! The first time I wanted to print to glossy paper, I expected to need to change my printer settings--so I went through every possible pane and setting looking for what I missed, over and over. WHERE IS IT???!? Turns out it's not there, apparently by design.
Oh, don't bother talking with a hardcore GNOME dev about it, especially not on IRC. I truly wish I'd logged this one, so it's from memory...my apologies. I'll label me as "me" (Rule of Least Surprise) and the GNOME dev as "bonehead" (applying the rule again.)
[me] So where's the printer-specific options
[bonehead] they're not there
[me] why
[bonehead] they're not there for usability reasons
[bonehead] essentially it leads to user confusion to have that many options
[bonehead] it's a good thing for the typical user
[me] but I'd like to see it and I think I'm a typical user
[bonehead] no you're not
[bonehead] look you're on irc you can't be a typical user
Look, I'm not anti-user or anti-usability and I'm not even saying that usability is a bad goal. All I'm saying is that leaving something out (or in some cases, ripping features out) as opposed to making the features easier to understand is pretty goddamn stupid. And defining your goals based on the lowest common denominator and calling that "the average user" is an insult to average and above-average users everywhere.
Seriously, where are the hordes of drooling morons using GNOME? Those people who think mauve has the most RAM and that throwing files away will give them more memory, who somehow ended up with a GNOME desktop? Will removing options really suddenly make Uncle Dimwit realize that the filesystem has nothing to do with RAM? Well, will it?
Just last week I was at a mall and was itchin' to fire off my BFG.
The state is leaking money and jobs like a sieve, you keep pushing for more state programs and jobs to be done away with, and not only do you waste taxpayers' money by flying between Chicago and Springfield all the time, now you're wasting your time with this stupid-ass videogame law!
Just remember Mr. Blagojevich, your time in office is coming to an end. Thank God.
I haven't played a purely text-based adventure in years, sadly (other than wasting time at work with Adventure) but it makes perfect sense.
I mean, think about this: millions of dollars were spent producing the game engine for Tribes 2. Was it a popular game? Sure, but so was Zork, and nobody will ever convince me that the Zork engine was expensive.
Plus, how many people who've fragged a few people in a deathmatch can still enjoy reading? Ayuh, I thought so.
Just try to keep an open mind about it; I remember playing these games and having great fun, although some of the things that others have pointed out here (illogical puzzles, being forced to talk to every-frickin-other-character, weird grammar, etc.) are certainly true.
Miguel isn't important???!? Mono isn't an issue?????!?
r y now several months old listing SEVERAL Mono-based apps. You think Mono's just going to be a minor footnote in the history of Free Software? Especially with Novell employing core GNOME people? You're deluding yourself.
What the hell are you smoking?
C'mon. Look at all the truly interesting stuff that people are clamoring for. GNOME fanboys I know play their music in Muine, keep their various notes in Tomboy, and are just dying to index their stuff using Beagle. And I hate to point it out, but F-Spot is in the official GNOME CVS.
Take a look at this http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=9780">sto
As we learned with KDE, people flock to legally encumbered Free Software for some reason.