I think you're making some very wrong assumptions... firstly, ubuntu is not a "Leading Edge" Distro, whatever that means, its goal is to bring linux closer to the masses, they chose debian as their base partly because of the broad range of architectures it supports. dropping support for 32-bits goes against that goal.
You're also completely off base in implying that ubuntu is unfit for older computers, it runs as well as most linux distros on older hardware. Yes ubuntu offers the latest eye-candy features, but many of its users disable them, I use ubuntu because it's a breeze to maintain, it stays out of my way, and its very popular and well supported, so I know I'll be able to find help when I need it.
I think requiring 64 bits is a completely unreasonable requirement, and would affect WAY more people than you realize. Sure there are other distros that will support 32 bit, but tbh, I dont want to run them, I've tried many of them and none are as pleasant as ubuntu, I'm not about to give that up because of your dim-witted notion that 32 bit computers are obsolete.
On top of that, the whole idea dropping support for an architecture seems downright stupid unless you're totally sure there are only a handful of them in existence. that is clearly not the case with 32-bit x86 cpu's, and it wont be for a VERY long time.
TL;DR you can pry my 32-bit CPU's from my cold dead hands.
I dont know about this "Chrome for linux" thing, but Chromium is not a windows app with any kind of compatibility layer, or wrapper. Its a native linux browser that actually works REALLY well (unlike all of the other apps that google 'ported' to linux)
i think you might be jumping the gun a little, I have 3 computers in this house, none of which is more than 4 years old, and none of which are 64-bit. if ubuntu stopped supporting 64-bit any time in the next 4 or 5 years, I would be forced to stop using it.
What planet are you on? this seems pretty reasonable as far as smartphones go. granted IMO they're ALL ridiculously expensive. but this seems about on par with what I would pay for an android or pre phone. (Candian Citizen here, I can't even get my hands on a pre yet, and an android device will run me about $700 CAD) I've been saving up to buy a nice smartphone outright (dont want to get locked into an expensive data plan with rogers) and was trying to decide between an HTC android phone and a Palm Pre. but this looks like it might be a better fit.
I've heard this a lot, but I've never seen any evidence of it. someone may very well be a great programmer, but the chances are equally good that they just think they're great because the people they've worked with in the past were also bad. Show me someone who programs in at least some of their free time, and its a pretty safe better that they're a lot more proficient and knowledgeable than the guy who doesn't.. and like it or not, most people would rather not take the risk hiring the strictly 9-5'er
I half agree. Firefox is not as fast as it used to be, and it doesn't seem to be getting better. I've been using ubuntu and its default firefox for as long as I can remember and i've yet to see much of a performance increase from it in each revision.
I have a (strange?) habit of reading pages by selecting the text as I go, so I hold my cursor at the bottom of the window and it sort of slowly scrolls and highlights each line as I read it. on any moderately long page, this uses 100% CPU and stutters like crazy. WHY?
on many other sites I have a very hard time selecting text at all, its just so unresponsive that it takes three or four tries just to make sure its selecting the right area. if I try to drag the selected text somewhere, and release the mouse button the text slowly slowly floats back to the original place on the page, all the while using 100% CPU.
Except that you CAN'T see how they're spending their appropriations because they redact all of the relevant information...
FWIW. I have no strong feelings either way, I'm Canadian, we have our own shit government to worry about, I just find it appalling that anyone can quote 18million for a website with a straight face.. were any other companies given a change to quote on this site? its just not possible that this was the best value they could find.
Well lets assume that your credibility in my eyes currently sits at 5% (which it doesn't). regardless of how ridiculous your comment was, you didn't have a long way to drop, so yes, in both cases, "all" (5%) of your credibility is gone.
(of course this assumes that you can't have negative credibility)
FWIW, I wasn't in any way referring to the burning comment, or your reaction to it, only pointing out the fact that constantly referring to copyright infringement as theft doesn't sit well with many people.
Canada is NOT cheaper than the US for mobile service. RTFA. We are the SINGLE MOST EXPENSIVE IN THE WORLD.
We get raped like you couldn't believe.
I signed up for a family plan for my girlfriend and I with rogers... the CHEAPEST plan which "costs" $40, actually costs $64 after the hidden fees. tack on Voicemail and CallerID for each phone (THESE SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN ALL PLANS!) and it it was just under $90. On top of that, rogers wouldn't even give me the option of getting a decent phone. Anything that qualifies as a "Data Phone" means that you are REQUIRED to have a data plan with rogers, you can't get the nice phone and just use it on your wifi for playing around/hacking. no, you have to pay $30/month IN ADDITION to your regular plan for the privilige of 1GB/month download.
Criminal.. Ass... Raping.
From what I hear, its REAL Bread too. not like what us north-american's eat. I met a couple of german exchange students who were shocked and disgusted when they first saw WonderBread.
I bought my PS3 (40GB) fully expecting it to have PS2 B/C. (yes, I didn't do my homework, but I didn't think I had to. I never in a million years would have thought Sony would release a PS3 without making it backwards compatible.)
Needless to say I was quite disappointed, I would be completely willing to pay more for a "deluxe" model of some kind that had B/C. (and maybe give me back the card reader and some more USB ports too)
I have a friend that was going to buy a ps3 recently and decided against it when I informed him about the lack of B/C. I wonder rhow often something like that happens and how much its affecting PS3 Sales. Either way, I'm sure there are plenty of people who would not have bought their PS3's if had known in advance that they wouldn't be able to play their PS2 games on it.
.. but the Appalachain trail jokes arent funny. The first one wasn't even remotely funny, and the two dozen that followed it in the last post about this guy were annoyingly lame. This one is just way past the line. If I see the word Appalachian in this thread I'm going to stab my face with an icepick.
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I think you're making some very wrong assumptions... firstly, ubuntu is not a "Leading Edge" Distro, whatever that means, its goal is to bring linux closer to the masses, they chose debian as their base partly because of the broad range of architectures it supports. dropping support for 32-bits goes against that goal.
You're also completely off base in implying that ubuntu is unfit for older computers, it runs as well as most linux distros on older hardware. Yes ubuntu offers the latest eye-candy features, but many of its users disable them, I use ubuntu because it's a breeze to maintain, it stays out of my way, and its very popular and well supported, so I know I'll be able to find help when I need it.
I think requiring 64 bits is a completely unreasonable requirement, and would affect WAY more people than you realize. Sure there are other distros that will support 32 bit, but tbh, I dont want to run them, I've tried many of them and none are as pleasant as ubuntu, I'm not about to give that up because of your dim-witted notion that 32 bit computers are obsolete.
On top of that, the whole idea dropping support for an architecture seems downright stupid unless you're totally sure there are only a handful of them in existence. that is clearly not the case with 32-bit x86 cpu's, and it wont be for a VERY long time.
TL;DR you can pry my 32-bit CPU's from my cold dead hands.
I dont know about this "Chrome for linux" thing, but Chromium is not a windows app with any kind of compatibility layer, or wrapper. Its a native linux browser that actually works REALLY well (unlike all of the other apps that google
'ported' to linux)
of course I meant to say "If ubuntu stopped supporting 32-bit..."
i think you might be jumping the gun a little, I have 3 computers in this house, none of which is more than 4 years old, and none of which are 64-bit. if ubuntu stopped supporting 64-bit any time in the next 4 or 5 years, I would be forced to stop using it.
He said "for a fee" not "for free"
15 I think. still a pretty small number to qualify as a study.
"Just to clarify, I am a Linux guy."
I call BS. A "Linux Guy" would know that 8.9 is not a valid ubuntu version number.
I wont need to run a VM and 2 shit proprietary apps just to put a ring-tone on my phone. thats a plus in my book.
What planet are you on? this seems pretty reasonable as far as smartphones go. granted IMO they're ALL ridiculously expensive. but this seems about on par with what I would pay for an android or pre phone. (Candian Citizen here, I can't even get my hands on a pre yet, and an android device will run me about $700 CAD) I've been saving up to buy a nice smartphone outright (dont want to get locked into an expensive data plan with rogers) and was trying to decide between an HTC android phone and a Palm Pre. but this looks like it might be a better fit.
I've heard this a lot, but I've never seen any evidence of it. someone may very well be a great programmer, but the chances are equally good that they just think they're great because the people they've worked with in the past were also bad. Show me someone who programs in at least some of their free time, and its a pretty safe better that they're a lot more proficient and knowledgeable than the guy who doesn't.. and like it or not, most people would rather not take the risk hiring the strictly 9-5'er
clearly you suck.
I half agree. Firefox is not as fast as it used to be, and it doesn't seem to be getting better. I've been using ubuntu and its default firefox for as long as I can remember and i've yet to see much of a performance increase from it in each revision.
I have a (strange?) habit of reading pages by selecting the text as I go, so I hold my cursor at the bottom of the window and it sort of slowly scrolls and highlights each line as I read it. on any moderately long page, this uses 100% CPU and stutters like crazy. WHY?
on many other sites I have a very hard time selecting text at all, its just so unresponsive that it takes three or four tries just to make sure its selecting the right area. if I try to drag the selected text somewhere, and release the mouse button the text slowly slowly floats back to the original place on the page, all the while using 100% CPU.
they can't?
I've been running ubuntu since edgy and its always come with "Mozilla Firefox" as the default browser.
I didn't understand ANY of it.
Except that you CAN'T see how they're spending their appropriations because they redact all of the relevant information...
FWIW. I have no strong feelings either way, I'm Canadian, we have our own shit government to worry about, I just find it appalling that anyone can quote 18million for a website with a straight face.. were any other companies given a change to quote on this site? its just not possible that this was the best value they could find.
Somewhere in those redacted lines has to be the explanation for how any website can possibly cost 18 million dollars.
I'd like to know the answer to this too.
Well lets assume that your credibility in my eyes currently sits at 5% (which it doesn't). regardless of how ridiculous your comment was, you didn't have a long way to drop, so yes, in both cases, "all" (5%) of your credibility is gone.
(of course this assumes that you can't have negative credibility)
FWIW, I wasn't in any way referring to the burning comment, or your reaction to it, only pointing out the fact that constantly referring to copyright infringement as theft doesn't sit well with many people.
And you lose all credibility when you refer to copyright infringement as stealing.
Canada is NOT cheaper than the US for mobile service. RTFA. We are the SINGLE MOST EXPENSIVE IN THE WORLD. We get raped like you couldn't believe. I signed up for a family plan for my girlfriend and I with rogers... the CHEAPEST plan which "costs" $40, actually costs $64 after the hidden fees. tack on Voicemail and CallerID for each phone (THESE SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN ALL PLANS!) and it it was just under $90. On top of that, rogers wouldn't even give me the option of getting a decent phone. Anything that qualifies as a "Data Phone" means that you are REQUIRED to have a data plan with rogers, you can't get the nice phone and just use it on your wifi for playing around/hacking. no, you have to pay $30/month IN ADDITION to your regular plan for the privilige of 1GB/month download. Criminal.. Ass... Raping.
From what I hear, its REAL Bread too. not like what us north-american's eat. I met a couple of german exchange students who were shocked and disgusted when they first saw WonderBread.
I bought my PS3 (40GB) fully expecting it to have PS2 B/C. (yes, I didn't do my homework, but I didn't think I had to. I never in a million years would have thought Sony would release a PS3 without making it backwards compatible.) Needless to say I was quite disappointed, I would be completely willing to pay more for a "deluxe" model of some kind that had B/C. (and maybe give me back the card reader and some more USB ports too) I have a friend that was going to buy a ps3 recently and decided against it when I informed him about the lack of B/C. I wonder rhow often something like that happens and how much its affecting PS3 Sales. Either way, I'm sure there are plenty of people who would not have bought their PS3's if had known in advance that they wouldn't be able to play their PS2 games on it.
.. but the Appalachain trail jokes arent funny. The first one wasn't even remotely funny, and the two dozen that followed it in the last post about this guy were annoyingly lame. This one is just way past the line. If I see the word Appalachian in this thread I'm going to stab my face with an icepick.
What question?