I disagree with the comment that installing games on Linux is like performing open-heart surgery.
I bought RR II - ran the install file as root (install.sh?). 3 or 4 minutes later I was playing. No funky options to choose, ran great first try. Crashed a bit after that, but there were patches (same as Windows games). So, where is the difficulty?
People will not wake up. I remember reading somewhere (really don't remember) - maybe it's urban legend - about someone that created a script that would simply pop up a message on the persons screen. He sent it out to the office stating - This is a Virus - DO NOT OPEN IT.
personally, I'd recommend either the Epox 7KXA or the Asus K7M, but that's just me
I wouldn't recommend K7M, go for the newer K7V, it's got the via chipset for agp which supposedly works a little faster, and also has current kernel support. The K7M uses the irongate chipset and the agp support for that is not fully patched into the kernel yet.
I have an Asus K7M motherboard with an Athlon 700, and absolutely no problems at all. Well.. at least not since the latest (not in the kernel yet) patch to agpgart anyways. Direct rendering in X woowoo:-)
but, sh*t, that was years ago on boxes that were DOS 6.2 and WinFWG; there isn't a BASIC that's on these new Win95/Win98 boxes that I'm aware of..
Hmm, AFAIK qbasic still comes with all the Win flavors up until 2000. In fact, gorrila.bas (cheesy little basic game) was included with NT workstation, just had to look for it:-)
There are a lot of remixes of songs out there that are pretty much only available on Napster, along with other music (foreign, mostly) that would be near impossible to get any conventional way. They're never at stores, and the only websites that I can find that have them are in Japanese, which doesn't help me much.
Ok, but how did you here of these artists? Through Napster? I think not. There is AFAIK (I don't use it a lot) NO browsing function within Napster, you need to run a search, the search is obviously some band/song that you know and want a copy of their music. So how does this promote independant artists? You still have to have heard of them in order to get their music.
I think that was the point that Lars was making, Napster is a tool to trade music (legal or not), there still has to be someone to promote the bands, the record companies spend the money to do this. MP3.com is a viable alternative, but that's a different issue.
Here is a good article showing why we can expect some differences in the 3d rendering between Linux and Windows. Basically it states that 3d in Linux is geared more towards compliancy with OpenGL vs Fastest Damn Frame Rate we can get. This results in a stable driver that still performs reasonably well. I am extremely happy with the results I have seen using the DRI mga driver.
I think that the Linux implementation of these drivers will be more feature rich (meaning prettier) and more stable than the Windows equivalent at the sacrifice of a few FPS.
I no longer play games using Windows, I use linux full-time at home, and am close to having a box built that I can use at work (anyone know of a linux SMS administrator??:-)). I have purchased quake3, railroad tycoon, and myth II for linux, I will be picking up call to power shortly. I also play Unreal using linux - check out OpenUT on sourceforge for the better engine..
The only reason I keep windows on it's 300 meg partition at home is for VPN access into work. Once shiva finishes their linux client it will be toast.
So, yes, I for one will fully support games for linux by purchasing them. I cannot say that I did the same for windows. If you want to see games ported for linux, give up the warez.. pay for it, support the company that's ported/created it.
I am appaled at how many different things IP stands for.
Every time I read IP - my first thought is.. huh? What does Internet Protocol have to do with this thread, there are no laws regarding that.. oh wait.. no.. he means Internet Phone.. but that still doesn't make much sense.. OOOHH - he means Intelectual property. Maybe it's just me, but that is almost always my train of thought..
Good point. Is this really any different than babelfish?
Or the jesus translator (sorry lost the link), or the candaianizer and all the rest (there are a LOT of these things).
Bablefish is probably the best example though, it is doing the same thing that this guys was. Personally I hope someone does try to take on altavista regarding babelfish. They should have the resources to fight it.
Ah, but that means you are running software without the latest security patches applied. And that's a no-no no matter what OS you use:-)
Agree with the sentiment, but I have the latest Outlook 2000 security patch (according to the downloads section of the microsoft website). It does not prevent the execution of the embedded script that was in the email that I mentioned above. I reapplied the patch just to make sure, rebooted my 2k machine just to make sure. Opened the email again, immediately pops up the message box. So to me, this is still a (as of yet unexploited) problem.
The love virus did not make use of this, but if it had, the spreading would have been a lot worse.
You're not going to tell me that if Linux offered similar functionalities of Outlook and WSH, that there wouldn't be a problem? You could always program around it at fix it, but then again, so could Microsoft, if they'd just be a little bit more careful, things like this wouldn't happen.
Right, but, Microsoft has refused to admit that this is their problem.. therein lies the difference.
Maybe not impossible, but, I haven't seen an email prog for Linux yet that makes an attachment executable by default.. So, there are a lot more steps there, right? I have to save it, chmod it, then run it.. I would hope that the majority of people would also take the second or 2 to cat the file and see if it does anything first. I know that if I see one that I don't know exactly what it's doing, I'm not running it. Now you may argue that an email prog will come out that will do that very thing, but, like the article stated, I have a choice, no company will "force" something onto my Linux machine that will allow this vulnerability... Whereas Outlook Express/2000/98/99/etc is more or less a "standard" in any corporate setting right now. The scary part about Outlook (as has been mentioned by many posters) is that you are not warned about it. In fact, I received an email shortly after the loveyou worm that scared the crap out of me, until I realized that it was one of our IS guys making a point. No attachment, reread that, no attachment, double click the message, popped up a message box, not an email, but a message box, basically saying it could have been a lot worse than it was. That is a BAD THING as far as I am concerned.
Maybe the people they should be trying to find are the people that burned that studio master in the first place.. I mean, there can't be THAT many people allowed to have the pre-release right?
A good way to stop these from running - go start/run - wscript - set it to 1 second:-)
If the vbs script is going to finish executing within a second, it's going to be either non threatening, or non destructive. I did test this out with the ILOVEYOU one as well..
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I disagree with the comment that installing games on Linux is like performing open-heart surgery.
I bought RR II - ran the install file as root (install.sh?). 3 or 4 minutes later I was playing. No funky options to choose, ran great first try. Crashed a bit after that, but there were patches (same as Windows games). So, where is the difficulty?
People will not wake up. I remember reading somewhere (really don't remember) - maybe it's urban legend - about someone that created a script that would simply pop up a message on the persons screen. He sent it out to the office stating - This is a Virus - DO NOT OPEN IT.
Apparently (many!) people still opened it.
actually I use DRI for XF86 4.0 on my Athlon system :-)
DRI
It works great.. 65sih fps in quake 3 on 800x600 with high settings.. use a matrox g400 max, they've come a long ways with that driver..
personally, I'd recommend either the Epox 7KXA or the Asus K7M, but that's just me
I wouldn't recommend K7M, go for the newer K7V, it's got the via chipset for agp which supposedly works a little faster, and also has current kernel support. The K7M uses the irongate chipset and the agp support for that is not fully patched into the kernel yet.
It is available off of the utah-glx-devel list at source-forge.
:-)
*looks for link*
ahh.. here it is..
just copy and decode
it should make it into the 2.3.99-whateveritsatnow real soon now..
I have an Asus K7M motherboard with an Athlon 700, and absolutely no problems at all. Well.. at least not since the latest (not in the kernel yet) patch to agpgart anyways. Direct rendering in X woowoo :-)
Way to go!! /.ed kuro5hin.. /. now...
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*sigh* too bad, I find I read that more than
Well.. that's easy!
Diablo II of course.. I should really play with the stress test and see if it'll go...
Well, OK, Shiva VPN as well would be nice..
but, sh*t, that was years ago on boxes that were DOS 6.2 and WinFWG; there isn't a BASIC that's on these new Win95/Win98 boxes that I'm aware of..
:-)
Hmm, AFAIK qbasic still comes with all the Win flavors up until 2000. In fact, gorrila.bas (cheesy little basic game) was included with NT workstation, just had to look for it
After four months IIRC, he got his first check. It was an mount of just over seventy dollars
:-)
Maybe that was because he was a pianist?
There are a lot of remixes of songs out there that are pretty much only available on Napster, along with other music (foreign, mostly) that would be near impossible to get any conventional way. They're never at stores, and the only websites that I can find that have them are in Japanese, which doesn't help me much.
Ok, but how did you here of these artists? Through Napster? I think not. There is AFAIK (I don't use it a lot) NO browsing function within Napster, you need to run a search, the search is obviously some band/song that you know and want a copy of their music. So how does this promote independant artists? You still have to have heard of them in order to get their music.
I think that was the point that Lars was making,
Napster is a tool to trade music (legal or not), there still has to be someone to promote the bands, the record companies spend the money to do this. MP3.com is a viable alternative, but that's a different issue.
I am surprised to see the 3Dfx drivers do so poorly, though. Isn't anyone helping out Daryll Strauss now that we've got source code available?
I believe this answers your question.
Basically, no.
Here is a good article showing why we can expect some differences in the 3d rendering between Linux and Windows. Basically it states that 3d in Linux is geared more towards compliancy with OpenGL vs Fastest Damn Frame Rate we can get. This results in a stable driver that still performs reasonably well. I am extremely happy with the results I have seen using the DRI mga driver.
I think that the Linux implementation of these drivers will be more feature rich (meaning prettier) and more stable than the Windows equivalent at the sacrifice of a few FPS.
Good, most of the good points brought up from the previous stories comments made it into that letter.
Can't wait to see the reply.
How many more days until the 10 days (dmca like) is over?
I no longer play games using Windows, I use linux full-time at home, and am close to having a box built that I can use at work (anyone know of a linux SMS administrator?? :-)). I have purchased quake3, railroad tycoon, and myth II for linux, I will be picking up call to power shortly. I also play Unreal using linux - check out OpenUT on sourceforge for the better engine..
The only reason I keep windows on it's 300 meg partition at home is for VPN access into work. Once shiva finishes their linux client it will be toast.
So, yes, I for one will fully support games for linux by purchasing them. I cannot say that I did the same for windows. If you want to see games ported for linux, give up the warez.. pay for it, support the company that's ported/created it.
I am appaled at how many different things IP stands for.
.. he means Internet Phone.. but that still doesn't make much sense.. OOOHH - he means Intelectual property. Maybe it's just me, but that is almost always my train of thought..
Every time I read IP - my first thought is.. huh? What does Internet Protocol have to do with this thread, there are no laws regarding that.. oh wait.. no
Good point. Is this really any different than babelfish?
Or the jesus translator (sorry lost the link), or the candaianizer and all the rest (there are a LOT of these things).
Bablefish is probably the best example though, it is doing the same thing that this guys was. Personally I hope someone does try to take on altavista regarding babelfish. They should have the resources to fight it.
What I thought was funny...
They distributed the information in a "Microsoft OS only format" (ie:exe - it was an exe right?).
So.. tell me how that's not monopolistic. Essentially they are saying "Sure, you can see it, as long as you run Windows".
OK, OK, there's Dr DOS and dosemu etc.. but still, they're all designed to emulate a MS OS..
Ah, but that means you are running software without the latest security patches applied. And that's a no-no no matter what OS you use :-)
Agree with the sentiment, but I have the latest Outlook 2000 security patch (according to the downloads section of the microsoft website). It does not prevent the execution of the embedded script that was in the email that I mentioned above. I reapplied the patch just to make sure, rebooted my 2k machine just to make sure. Opened the email again, immediately pops up the message box. So to me, this is still a (as of yet unexploited) problem.
The love virus did not make use of this, but if it had, the spreading would have been a lot worse.
You're not going to tell me that if Linux offered similar functionalities of Outlook and WSH, that there wouldn't be a problem? You could always program around it at fix it, but then again, so could Microsoft, if they'd just be a little bit more careful, things like this wouldn't happen.
Right, but, Microsoft has refused to admit that this is their problem.. therein lies the difference.
When you give the code to everybody, you're begging for people to exploit it.
well duh.. that's kinda the point..
Maybe not impossible, but, I haven't seen an email prog for Linux yet that makes an attachment executable by default..
So, there are a lot more steps there, right? I have to save it, chmod it, then run it.. I would hope that the majority of people would also take the second or 2 to cat the file and see if it does anything first. I know that if I see one that I don't know exactly what it's doing, I'm not running it.
Now you may argue that an email prog will come out that will do that very thing, but, like the article stated, I have a choice, no company will "force" something onto my Linux machine that will allow this vulnerability...
Whereas Outlook Express/2000/98/99/etc is more or less a "standard" in any corporate setting right now. The scary part about Outlook (as has been mentioned by many posters) is that you are not warned about it. In fact, I received an email shortly after the loveyou worm that scared the crap out of me, until I realized that it was one of our IS guys making a point. No attachment, reread that, no attachment, double click the message, popped up a message box, not an email, but a message box, basically saying it could have been a lot worse than it was.
That is a BAD THING as far as I am concerned.
Damn.. I'm really rambling here aren't I..
Maybe the people they should be trying to find are the people that burned that studio master in the first place.. I mean, there can't be THAT many people allowed to have the pre-release right?
A good way to stop these from running - go start/run - wscript - set it to 1 second :-)
If the vbs script is going to finish executing within a second, it's going to be either non threatening, or non destructive.
I did test this out with the ILOVEYOU one as well..
I'm sure the suspect being little brown fellow from a third world country has nothing to do with it.
:-)
Of course not.. the thing deleted mp3's..
It was the RIAA