Nice try but I would bet what comes out of the tailpipe of a car is cleaner than a coal plant emissions. You can't even kill yourself with a car anymore.
Did you read the post or just the subject line? At the coal fired electrical generation plant the pollution is centralized in one industrial location. There is more opportunity for filtering, capture, sequestration, etc.
The problem is that electricity (or petrol) has to be used to compress the air. And 65% of the electricity in India is generated by burning coal or natural gas.
To be fair you need to consider the energy used to refine and deliver the gasoline/diesel, and any emissions in the process.
One nice thing about electricity is that even when "dirty" sources are used for generation the emissions are centralized so that there is more opportunity for capture and sequestration.
Actually, it WAS a republican admin that killed off our human launching. W killed it in 2004, and yet, Neil did not object. And when others that he had known and worked with recommended leaving constellation because of how bad the situation was, Mr. Armstrong chose to blame O. I will say that up until 2 years ago, he had left politics out of the equation. However, that changed then.
You are mistaken. In 2004 Bush supported a government space program working side-by-side with commercial efforts. He support Ares, Constellation and Orion. In 2010 Obama decided we only needed the commercial side. Armstrong's objection seems to be the lack of a government program. You seem to be completely mischaracterizing things. Note Armstrong's use of the phrase "indeterminate time" in "... to be without carriage to low Earth orbit and with no human exploration capability to go beyond Earth orbit for an indeterminate time into the future". At worst you could say there was a short gap in the Bush plan between shuttle retirement and an operational Ares/Constellation/Orion. That is something entirely different.
"The Vision for Space Exploration (VSE) was a visionary plan for space exploration announced on January 14, 2004 by President George W. Bush. It is seen[by whom?] as a response to the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster, the state of human spaceflight at NASA, and as a way to regain public enthusiasm for space exploration. It was replaced by the Space policy of the Barack Obama administration in June 2010... The Vision for Space Exploration sought to implement a sustained and affordable human and robotic program to explore the solar system and beyond; extend human presence across the solar system, starting with a human return to the Moon by the year 2020, in preparation for human exploration of Mars and other destinations; develop the innovative technologies, knowledge, and infrastructures both to explore and to support decisions about the destinations for human exploration; and to promote international and commercial participation in exploration to further U.S. scientific, security, and economic interests." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vision_for_Space_Exploration
RIP Neil. You worked hard to get the slot and had fun for the ride.
I will say that he was a class act until recently. Over the course of the last couple of years, he allowed his politics to take hold. For example, he blasted SpaceX and stated that they would not be capable of launching humans, but spoke of private enterprise being required to take hold in space. Likewise, he blasted Obama for backing SpaceX, while ignoring the fact that the plan started in the mid-90s under NASA, killed by republicans, and then was restarted by Griffin and pushed by W.
Up until he put his loyalty to his political party, he WAS a class act. One that cared for America. Just in the last couple of years, did he seem to lose that. But I do not think that should taint what he accomplished.
I believe you misinterpret his criticism. To me it seems that he was critical of the US government for abandoning the government space program, for relying only on commercial and foreign flights. I believe he was a supporter of commercial space flight. He merely did not believe it was time to abandon government space flight. The criticism of commercial operators seems to merely pointing out one reason why abandoning the government's role was premature. Had a republican administrations chosen to do so he would have been equally appalled. A quote an AC pointed out on wiki seems quite insightful and debunks the suggestion of politics:
"In 2010, he made a rare public criticism of the decision to cancel the Ares 1 launch vehicle and the Constellation moon landing program. In an open public letter also signed by Apollo veterans Jim Lovell and Gene Cernan, he noted, "For The United States, the leading space faring nation for nearly half a century, to be without carriage to low Earth orbit and with no human exploration capability to go beyond Earth orbit for an indeterminate time into the future, destines our nation to become one of second or even third rate stature"."
So he was Jerry Rice, catching even the worst throws.
Nope. If we must continue with the silly analogy he was the pilot who turned a "bad throw" into a "good throw" in flight, after the quarterback threw it, before the receiver caught it.
Given the original statement was that it was the special ops team that had the visual (when they didn't, it was the unarmed drone that had the visual), and this statement tells us nothing of the ground situation at them time, nor the proximity of said ground forces (it merely says they could have acted more quickly, which could mean they were anywhere from minutes to hours out), he is correct in saying it is fiction. It twists the situation to make it shown like they have a sniper with the guy in his cross-hairs when that isn't what was said at all.
That's a silly and desperate interpretation of events. The fact remains the original poster suggested the whole idea was nonsense, a right wring conspiracy. The fact remains that a ground team was near enough to attempt a raid. Here's a bit more from CNN:
That is not what the GP is referring to. The GP is referring to a different incident, post embassy bombings (?), where a special ops team had a visual on Bin Laden. Clinton had them stand down.
More right-wing fiction with no basis in reality.
Right wing fiction from CBS's 60 Minutes and the Huffington post?
"Hank Crumpton, a former CIA officer and top counterterrorism official, said in a recent interview that President Bill Clinton's White House missed a golden opportunity to take out terrorist leader Osama bin Laden in 1999.
Bin Laden was in Afghanistan in 1999, Crumpton told CBS's "60 Minutes" in a segment that aired on Sunday. His convoy had been clearly identified by an early edition Predator drone, which at the time didn't have weapons capabilities.
"We saw a security detail, a convoy, and we saw bin Laden exit the vehicle, clearly," Crumpton told CBS's Lara Logan, describing aerial images captured by a drone flying somewhere outside of Kandahar. "The optics were spot in, it was beaming back to us, CIA headquarters. We immediately alerted the White House, and the Clinton administration’s response was, ‘Well, it will take several hours for the TLAMs, the cruise missiles launched from submarines, to reach that objective. So, you need to tell us where bin Laden will be five or six hours from now.' The frustration was enormous."
The administration also denied the CIA's request to engage their on-ground forces, Crumpton said, which could have acted more quickly. The missed opportunity led the CIA to speed the process of arming the unmanned drones with Hellfire missiles, so that they could act more swiftly if they found bin Laden again." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/14/hank-crumpton-cia-clinton-bin-laden_n_1514895.html
Bill Clinton signed the legislation permitting the credit default swap financial instruments.
And George W. Bush signed the legislation making it harder for consumers to declare bankruptcy - so banks promptly created a bubble by lending money to anyone or anything with a pulse. Blaming it on the CRA is the biggest wingnut lie in the history of wignnut lies.
Time magazine another right wing conspiracy member?
"Bill Clinton... Among his biggest strokes of free-wheeling capitalism was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods." http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877322,00.html
Funny that you mentioned Glass-Steagal earlier. It seems it was really Clinton not Bush that signed off on its repeal.
... will see the Android powered Nexus One and Nexus S phones command their very own small scale spacecraft...
For how long? These are consumer devices. The hardware and software are not flight rated and not radiation hardened.
That said its a really cool hack but hardly something that will radicalize design. Its not like the space program wasn't already on the path of smaller, lighter and less power consuming electronics. Our modern computers and devices are a direct result of space research.
When the football has a bad spin or tumbles it does not correct the spin/rotation itself. Armstrong did so with a Gemini capsule that was in danger of going out of control. Similarly he had to land Apollo 11 manually when the computers were hazarding the ship. He was a pilot, not a passenger.
He was a former Naval Aviator who flew combat missions in Korea. This experience probably made a significant contribution to his ability to remain focused and calm.
The nice thing about CentOS is that if/when you wind up on RHEL (comes with hardware, what you hosting provider is using, etc) the migration will be pretty simple.
A class act. And a great pilot. You will be missed.
Navy pilot - combat veteran, test/research pilot, aerospace engineer, university professor. Of course he was most famous for being an astronaut, commander of the Apollo 11 mission and the first to walk on the moon.
He inspired generations of scientists and engineers. Because of Armstrong and his fellow astronauts my friends and I in elementary school knew math and science were important and were highly motivated to pay attention. We had real heroes are role models.
1. Sorry, Democrats. You snooze, you loose. Patron saint Al Gore's wife Tipper, anyone? This almost held sway.
It wasn't just Tipper. Al Gore himself supported the ban on some music. He called for the Senate hearings, he gave her the national platform to promote the legislation, etc.
"Bill Clinton passed on Bin Laden after the first trade center attacks."
No he didn't. In 1996 Clinton authorized the use of a Cruise missile aimed at Bin Laden's satellite phone signal.
That is not what the GP is referring to. The GP is referring to a different incident, post embassy bombings (?), where a special ops team had a visual on Bin Laden. Clinton had them stand down.
"The 2008 economic decline was from......the housing bust." - and the housing bust was caused by the Housing Boom caused by the securitization of mortgages on GWB's watch while the Glass-Siegel act was gutted into uselessness
Bill Clinton signed the legislation permitting the credit default swap financial instruments. Not only did he authorize these financial WMDs but he made it illegal for States to attempt to regulate such activities. Voiding existing regulations that were on the books in some states, regulations that prevented the purchase of insurance on something you had no financial interest in.
I think you misunderstood the GP's argument. You don't go from one huge bank to another huge bank. You go to a small local bank or a credit union that is more reasonable and responsive. An actual small local bank anecdote: A friend gets a phone call from the bank manager telling her a check is about to bounce, her husband wrote a check she did not know about, giving her a chance to make a deposit/transfer to avoid bouncing the check and getting hit with the associated fees and embarrassment.
for bootstrapping kansas city's high tech industry
How? Just how many startups require ultra-fast fiber at their development site? Wherever the startup hosts their public server(s) may already have such a connection.
So, basically it's just like renting a room to anyone else, except they're knowledgeable about technology...
Some of the legal concerns addressed by the GP will be covered in the lease the renter will sign, thereby offering the landlord some protection. Plus part of the rent goes to buying insurance, further protecting the landlord.
Do you have any plans to do mobile development? If so save them for debugging and testing. You may want to leave old operating systems on them for this purpose.
If you have no interest in mobile development do you have someone among your family and friends who does? Give it to them for debugging and testing.
I don't think you got the timing correct. I believe a large part of the population was in armed revolt before the decision was made to cut our ties with England and become independent, rather than force a new relationship between crown and colonies (formally recognized autonomy in some aspects of government, representation in Parliament, etc.).
I don't think many were killed in the occupation of Boston originally, and the Boston Massacre and other incidents were really not the spark that started the armed revolution. It was the attempt to confiscate the guns at Lexington and Concord that initiated the shooting between the militia and the British regulars. This is where the "shot heard round the world" took place. If you were thinking of the Battle of Bunker Hill in Boston, that took place a couple of months later.
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Didn't the US Navy use some sort of face paint during WW2 to protect gunners from the heat and flash?
Nice try but I would bet what comes out of the tailpipe of a car is cleaner than a coal plant emissions. You can't even kill yourself with a car anymore.
Did you read the post or just the subject line? At the coal fired electrical generation plant the pollution is centralized in one industrial location. There is more opportunity for filtering, capture, sequestration, etc.
The problem is that electricity (or petrol) has to be used to compress the air. And 65% of the electricity in India is generated by burning coal or natural gas.
To be fair you need to consider the energy used to refine and deliver the gasoline/diesel, and any emissions in the process.
One nice thing about electricity is that even when "dirty" sources are used for generation the emissions are centralized so that there is more opportunity for capture and sequestration.
Actually, it WAS a republican admin that killed off our human launching. W killed it in 2004, and yet, Neil did not object. And when others that he had known and worked with recommended leaving constellation because of how bad the situation was, Mr. Armstrong chose to blame O. I will say that up until 2 years ago, he had left politics out of the equation. However, that changed then.
You are mistaken. In 2004 Bush supported a government space program working side-by-side with commercial efforts. He support Ares, Constellation and Orion. In 2010 Obama decided we only needed the commercial side. Armstrong's objection seems to be the lack of a government program. You seem to be completely mischaracterizing things. Note Armstrong's use of the phrase "indeterminate time" in "... to be without carriage to low Earth orbit and with no human exploration capability to go beyond Earth orbit for an indeterminate time into the future". At worst you could say there was a short gap in the Bush plan between shuttle retirement and an operational Ares/Constellation/Orion. That is something entirely different.
... The Vision for Space Exploration sought to implement a sustained and affordable human and robotic program to explore the solar system and beyond; extend human presence across the solar system, starting with a human return to the Moon by the year 2020, in preparation for human exploration of Mars and other destinations; develop the innovative technologies, knowledge, and infrastructures both to explore and to support decisions about the destinations for human exploration; and to promote international and commercial participation in exploration to further U.S. scientific, security, and economic interests."
"The Vision for Space Exploration (VSE) was a visionary plan for space exploration announced on January 14, 2004 by President George W. Bush. It is seen[by whom?] as a response to the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster, the state of human spaceflight at NASA, and as a way to regain public enthusiasm for space exploration. It was replaced by the Space policy of the Barack Obama administration in June 2010
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vision_for_Space_Exploration
RIP Neil. You worked hard to get the slot and had fun for the ride. I will say that he was a class act until recently. Over the course of the last couple of years, he allowed his politics to take hold. For example, he blasted SpaceX and stated that they would not be capable of launching humans, but spoke of private enterprise being required to take hold in space. Likewise, he blasted Obama for backing SpaceX, while ignoring the fact that the plan started in the mid-90s under NASA, killed by republicans, and then was restarted by Griffin and pushed by W.
Up until he put his loyalty to his political party, he WAS a class act. One that cared for America. Just in the last couple of years, did he seem to lose that. But I do not think that should taint what he accomplished.
I believe you misinterpret his criticism. To me it seems that he was critical of the US government for abandoning the government space program, for relying only on commercial and foreign flights. I believe he was a supporter of commercial space flight. He merely did not believe it was time to abandon government space flight. The criticism of commercial operators seems to merely pointing out one reason why abandoning the government's role was premature. Had a republican administrations chosen to do so he would have been equally appalled. A quote an AC pointed out on wiki seems quite insightful and debunks the suggestion of politics:
"In 2010, he made a rare public criticism of the decision to cancel the Ares 1 launch vehicle and the Constellation moon landing program. In an open public letter also signed by Apollo veterans Jim Lovell and Gene Cernan, he noted, "For The United States, the leading space faring nation for nearly half a century, to be without carriage to low Earth orbit and with no human exploration capability to go beyond Earth orbit for an indeterminate time into the future, destines our nation to become one of second or even third rate stature"."
I'll add another "me too". I was 5. My Mom found me and took me to the TV and said "Watch this, its important".
So he was Jerry Rice, catching even the worst throws.
Nope. If we must continue with the silly analogy he was the pilot who turned a "bad throw" into a "good throw" in flight, after the quarterback threw it, before the receiver caught it.
Given the original statement was that it was the special ops team that had the visual (when they didn't, it was the unarmed drone that had the visual), and this statement tells us nothing of the ground situation at them time, nor the proximity of said ground forces (it merely says they could have acted more quickly, which could mean they were anywhere from minutes to hours out), he is correct in saying it is fiction. It twists the situation to make it shown like they have a sniper with the guy in his cross-hairs when that isn't what was said at all.
That's a silly and desperate interpretation of events. The fact remains the original poster suggested the whole idea was nonsense, a right wring conspiracy. The fact remains that a ground team was near enough to attempt a raid. Here's a bit more from CNN:
""This is the third time you and your officers have put UBL in this government's sights and they have balked each time at doing the job"
"Having a chance to get ubl three times in 36 hours and foregoing the chance each time has made me a bit angry"
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/21/declassified-documents-shed-light-on-scramble-to-hit-bin-laden-before-911/
More right-wing fiction with no basis in reality.
Right wing fiction from CBS's 60 Minutes and the Huffington post?
"Hank Crumpton, a former CIA officer and top counterterrorism official, said in a recent interview that President Bill Clinton's White House missed a golden opportunity to take out terrorist leader Osama bin Laden in 1999. Bin Laden was in Afghanistan in 1999, Crumpton told CBS's "60 Minutes" in a segment that aired on Sunday. His convoy had been clearly identified by an early edition Predator drone, which at the time didn't have weapons capabilities. "We saw a security detail, a convoy, and we saw bin Laden exit the vehicle, clearly," Crumpton told CBS's Lara Logan, describing aerial images captured by a drone flying somewhere outside of Kandahar. "The optics were spot in, it was beaming back to us, CIA headquarters. We immediately alerted the White House, and the Clinton administration’s response was, ‘Well, it will take several hours for the TLAMs, the cruise missiles launched from submarines, to reach that objective. So, you need to tell us where bin Laden will be five or six hours from now.' The frustration was enormous." The administration also denied the CIA's request to engage their on-ground forces, Crumpton said, which could have acted more quickly. The missed opportunity led the CIA to speed the process of arming the unmanned drones with Hellfire missiles, so that they could act more swiftly if they found bin Laden again."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/14/hank-crumpton-cia-clinton-bin-laden_n_1514895.html
And George W. Bush signed the legislation making it harder for consumers to declare bankruptcy - so banks promptly created a bubble by lending money to anyone or anything with a pulse. Blaming it on the CRA is the biggest wingnut lie in the history of wignnut lies.
Time magazine another right wing conspiracy member? ... Among his biggest strokes of free-wheeling capitalism was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods."
"Bill Clinton
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877322,00.html
Funny that you mentioned Glass-Steagal earlier. It seems it was really Clinton not Bush that signed off on its repeal.
... will see the Android powered Nexus One and Nexus S phones command their very own small scale spacecraft ...
For how long? These are consumer devices. The hardware and software are not flight rated and not radiation hardened.
That said its a really cool hack but hardly something that will radicalize design. Its not like the space program wasn't already on the path of smaller, lighter and less power consuming electronics. Our modern computers and devices are a direct result of space research.
Neil wasn't the quarterback, he was the football.
When the football has a bad spin or tumbles it does not correct the spin/rotation itself. Armstrong did so with a Gemini capsule that was in danger of going out of control. Similarly he had to land Apollo 11 manually when the computers were hazarding the ship. He was a pilot, not a passenger.
He was non-military, for one.
He was a former Naval Aviator who flew combat missions in Korea. This experience probably made a significant contribution to his ability to remain focused and calm.
Retired is not "non-military".
The nice thing about CentOS is that if/when you wind up on RHEL (comes with hardware, what you hosting provider is using, etc) the migration will be pretty simple.
I disagree. This guy:
Redhat, with a support contract is for him.
Well if he starts with CentOS that migration will be pretty simple.
A class act. And a great pilot. You will be missed.
Navy pilot - combat veteran, test/research pilot, aerospace engineer, university professor. Of course he was most famous for being an astronaut, commander of the Apollo 11 mission and the first to walk on the moon.
He inspired generations of scientists and engineers. Because of Armstrong and his fellow astronauts my friends and I in elementary school knew math and science were important and were highly motivated to pay attention. We had real heroes are role models.
CentOS may be your best bet. Its Red Hat Enterprise Linux rebuilt from the Red Hat source code, minus the Red Hat trademark.
>Plus part of the rent goes to buying insurance, further protecting the landlord.
With any insurance company I've ever met, part of zero doesn't buy much coverage . . .
hawk
Re-read the thread. "Rent" is referring to traditional renters who sign a lease and make payments, its not referring to the visiting hackers.
And there won't be a crappy NAT router between you and the fiber?
1. Sorry, Democrats. You snooze, you loose. Patron saint Al Gore's wife Tipper, anyone? This almost held sway.
It wasn't just Tipper. Al Gore himself supported the ban on some music. He called for the Senate hearings, he gave her the national platform to promote the legislation, etc.
"Bill Clinton passed on Bin Laden after the first trade center attacks."
No he didn't. In 1996 Clinton authorized the use of a Cruise missile aimed at Bin Laden's satellite phone signal.
That is not what the GP is referring to. The GP is referring to a different incident, post embassy bombings (?), where a special ops team had a visual on Bin Laden. Clinton had them stand down.
"The 2008 economic decline was from......the housing bust." - and the housing bust was caused by the Housing Boom caused by the securitization of mortgages on GWB's watch while the Glass-Siegel act was gutted into uselessness
Bill Clinton signed the legislation permitting the credit default swap financial instruments. Not only did he authorize these financial WMDs but he made it illegal for States to attempt to regulate such activities. Voiding existing regulations that were on the books in some states, regulations that prevented the purchase of insurance on something you had no financial interest in.
I think you misunderstood the GP's argument. You don't go from one huge bank to another huge bank. You go to a small local bank or a credit union that is more reasonable and responsive. An actual small local bank anecdote: A friend gets a phone call from the bank manager telling her a check is about to bounce, her husband wrote a check she did not know about, giving her a chance to make a deposit/transfer to avoid bouncing the check and getting hit with the associated fees and embarrassment.
for bootstrapping kansas city's high tech industry
How? Just how many startups require ultra-fast fiber at their development site? Wherever the startup hosts their public server(s) may already have such a connection.
So, basically it's just like renting a room to anyone else, except they're knowledgeable about technology...
Some of the legal concerns addressed by the GP will be covered in the lease the renter will sign, thereby offering the landlord some protection. Plus part of the rent goes to buying insurance, further protecting the landlord.
Do you have any plans to do mobile development? If so save them for debugging and testing. You may want to leave old operating systems on them for this purpose.
If you have no interest in mobile development do you have someone among your family and friends who does? Give it to them for debugging and testing.
I don't think you got the timing correct. I believe a large part of the population was in armed revolt before the decision was made to cut our ties with England and become independent, rather than force a new relationship between crown and colonies (formally recognized autonomy in some aspects of government, representation in Parliament, etc.).
I don't think many were killed in the occupation of Boston originally, and the Boston Massacre and other incidents were really not the spark that started the armed revolution. It was the attempt to confiscate the guns at Lexington and Concord that initiated the shooting between the militia and the British regulars. This is where the "shot heard round the world" took place. If you were thinking of the Battle of Bunker Hill in Boston, that took place a couple of months later.