Gates also took some credit for the genesis of open-source software. He said Microsoft made it possible by standardizing computers: "Really, the reason you see open source there at all is because we came in and said there should be a platform that's identical with millions and millions of machines," he said.
To be fair, Slashdot's site has crapped out plenty of times as we all know. And its certainly true that Kuro5hin looks nicer and has more features.:)
One thing about Slashcode tho - they've put a lot of thought into caching pages and also into database locking issues. How about k5? Is there an article somewhere that discusses performance aspects of Scoop?
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By similar hardware, I meant similar hardware, not necessarily as much hardware. You have an eight-way Xeon whearas slashdot has a four-way Xeon and a bunch of ordinary servers that could each be built for about $5-600(except for the NFS server, which might run $900-1000). They also have significantly more traffic. Sept. 11, in particular proved that slash has what it takes to handle a heavy load.
And I'm not at all trying to put down kuro5hin, its a nice site, and I like it. I apologize if my comment about it being slow was insulting.
My point is that slash has undergone severe circumstances and they have adapted their site accordingly. Because of that, its my belief that slashcode lives up to Rob's claim in this article.
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my bad. Scoop is also perl. But my point about Slash being able to handle heavier loads than other weblogs is still valid. Their code has been tested under fire like nothing else has.
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Hmm. I haven't seen a PHP package that would do nearly as well as Slash under heavy load. Kuro5hin is a perfect example - while they have similar hardware their site is usually slow and often painfully slow. And that's with a fraction of the traffic.
It seems as if there are two different versions of GPL/Open Source development. One is where the project is open to anyone capable enough to contribute to it. Mozilla and KDE are examples of this. The other is where the development, while open to suggestions, is tightly controlled.
Slashcode seems to fall into the second camp. There doesn't seem to be a wide variety of people who have contributed, rather the credit is purely to CmdrTaco and friends.
Instead of doing all the work yourselves, why not have a todo list and let others make contributions to the project, rather than just implementing suggestions?
I'm not trying to be harsh but your comment shows that you primarily value women for their sexual attractiveness. You value their outer qualities, and then blame them for choosing the highest bidder?
Save yourself the emotional roller-coaster. If you wanna get laid, just pay for it.
for the SMB and CIFS protocols? What more than the API do you need to create interoperability? I've been using Samba for years and it works fine. I had a mild argument with Jeremy once(he proved me wrong of course) when I stated that MS doesn't use hidden API's. He pointed to an API that allowed single sign-on between SQL Server and NT server. But since then, Microsoft has documented even that one.
I'm sure its been said many times before, but I guess it needs to be said again. There are no hidden API's! So I have to ask, what do people want that's not already being provided?
By the way, I even found help on msdn on a problem that occurs when you copy files to a full Samba volume. That was pretty interesting. Seems like Microsoft has at least some interest in providing interoperability.
Perhaps Microsoft would be more than happy to provide Samba with detailed documentation. I really have to wonder, have they ever asked for it? Or are they just demonizing them for no reason?
I don't think I've heard more criticism of Linux than that of its desktop - its fragmented between different projects, its goal is to clone Windows, its way behind Windows, there are no applications, yada, yada, yada.
But the reason it will eventually succeed is that Microsoft can't compete against it, can't put it out of business. It will eventually succeed because it cannot be stopped.
By the way, I just got Mandrake 8.1 and the desktop looks phenomenal. Once the office products start to mature and we see some more games I think the desktop will start seeing market share numbers like Linux on the server. You have to understand, the server has 30 years of development behind it. The desktop will eventually get there. Its not a question of if, but when.
that's the only thing a multinational corp will listen to. And its far more effective than a violent protest at a WTO convention.
Organize boycotts, and create consumer awareness programs if you want the sweatshops to stop. They'll listen to the bucks, but probably won't listen to a bunch of angry tree huggers.
oops should have said "less than" instead of using the less than symbol. I meant to say "well, if you had a less than 1000 uid account, you could probably sell it. Others have. Just don't get caught or that account might get banned.
well if you had a
And for that matter, I agree. VA is going down the tubes fast and if this were my site I'd be thinking exit strategy. Slashdot needs to start selling subscribtions now, and start thinking about ways to sell advertising. Personally, I would subscribe, and I bet most daily readers of this site would. If 20% of the users on this site subscribed that would equal 100,000 subscribers. I think Slashdot could pay for itself.
Can governments preserve the environment, keep work secure and equitable, ensure fair wages, control capitalism, distribute new technologies equitably, respect diverse cultural values, contain greed and restrict the imagery that Americans love but that frightens and offends large segments of the world population?
Yes, as long as we retain our sovereignty and don't turn that over to a multi-national body. I think it would dangerous to allow a multi-national organization like the U.N. to have final say in matters of law and of military over the U.S. We have the longest running democracy of any nation, and it works. Thus, I think its dangerous for countries like Britain, with long-established laws, to turn over power to multi-national institutions like the EU. Let each country govern itself and come to agreements with other countries, but never turn over power or the right to have final say to these organizations. Doing so is a recipe for disaster; it places more power into the hands of fewer people, it makes it more likely for a despot to control more lands, and it takes away from people the ability to govern themselves. The right to self-govern is supreme in the U.S. and hopefully will remain so.
By doing so, we ensure our government responds to us as a people and has control of the military. As long as we have an elected government that controls the military, we don't have to worry too much about the power of other countries, and other multi-national organizations. But if we give up any power to multi-national organizations, we lose ability to govern ourselves, and we lose the freedoms we have worked for over 225 years to create and preserve.
You are right of course, and when standard programs like Microsoft Access, Excel or MySQL can uniformly upload XML files I'll agree they are just as useful.
As far as your statement on parsing is concerned, perhaps I was not clear about using formatted text files. By that I meant standard comma or tab delimited files. You don't need a parser to load those into a database, and any database will accept such files. The same can't be said about XML.
However, I agree. XML is a formatted text file, with the metadata built in. Once that becomes widespread enough that any database will accept these, then I'll agree. XML will be as useful as plain text, and likely more so.
can be solved with text files, at far less expense.
I'm not just talking out of my ass either. I've worked with EDI systems(data in binary format means you need proprietary software on both ends), XML, and plain old text files. I've used all 3 in the context of transferring data between businesses, which is what XML aims to solve. My feeling is that plain old text files, along with a descriptive file of how the text file is laid out, is overall the best solution for most data interchanges between businesses.
One really good example of this is using diff. Suppose your supplier maintains a database of products you can order, and this data changes daily. Using text files you can easily diff todays file with the one you retrieved the day before and get a much smaller file to use to update your internal database. I can't imagine a more elegant solution using XML.
I have found one good solution that uses XML - outputting XML on the fly over the net in response to a query. If you have customers that query your data regularly over the web, any change to the HTML will throw their queries off if they are "screen scraping" to get at your data. XML solves this problem nicely, even if new fields are added or if the XML page layout changes in some way. I don't see the logic of actually storing XML in the database though.
My experience of being in a business where data interchanges take place on a regular basis with other businesses, is that formatted text files are still the best way overall. They are easier to deal with and faster than XML ever will be.
First of all, why would Linux be banned? Its not like you're going to be running anything illegal on it.
Instead of a registry lockdown, why not have an automated licensing check run on the companies software. You would have a program that scanned registries across the network for installed software, and check the installation against company licenses. It would quickly ferret out things like pirated copies of Photoshop and the like.
FYI, people like "Linux For Assholes", having proven themselves likely to write foul garbage rather than insightful posts, default to posting at -1. In other words, he wasn't moderated.
I've never bought a Dell or Compaq, its always been a machine I put together myself.
I recently put together a 1GHz Althon system complete with 17" monitor, CD burner and 256 MB of RAM for $600. So yeah, I still think I'd pay double for an equivalent Mac.
It's nifty and all, but I just can't see businesses using software that has the potential to shut itself down(intentionally, anyway).
I'm starting to see more and more "normal" people like my parents and grandparents become aware of Microsoft's bullying business tactics. They couple what they've heard about Microsoft will the fact that Microsoft will force them to register their software online and are saying "no, thanks".
As is obvious to most of us, Microsoft needs some real competition. Its only occurred to me recently that the average Joe on the street is starting to realize they need real competition to stop them from bullying everyone from their suppliers to their customers.
Unfortunately, I can't yet recommend my grandma, who has trouble enough figuring out the intricacies of the mouse, that she go to something like linux. A Mac might be nice, however it would likely cost double what her PC cost.
The demand is definitely there for Microsoft to have some real competition, because nobody likes to be bullied. I wonder who will finally give it to them?
Postgres has shown time and time again that it blows the shit out of MySQL for any kind of select statement where your 'where' clause is even just slightly more complicated than 'x = y'.
I'm using MySQL to perform selects that join five tables, including one with over 800,000 rows and one with over 5 million rows. It can perform these selects in a fraction of a second, more than adequate performance for my application. MySQL has also been very reliable for me.
I find the people here slamming MySQL are often doing so based on their theoretical, rather than practical knowledge. But perhaps you are different. I'd like to see you back up your claim.
Slashdot Mirror
Why, he's the Al Gore of Open Source!
Another hint for you. Once something gets a writeup on Slashdot, its not exactly a secret anymore.
One thing about Slashcode tho - they've put a lot of thought into caching pages and also into database locking issues. How about k5? Is there an article somewhere that discusses performance aspects of Scoop?
And I'm not at all trying to put down kuro5hin, its a nice site, and I like it. I apologize if my comment about it being slow was insulting.
My point is that slash has undergone severe circumstances and they have adapted their site accordingly. Because of that, its my belief that slashcode lives up to Rob's claim in this article.
my bad. Scoop is also perl. But my point about Slash being able to handle heavier loads than other weblogs is still valid. Their code has been tested under fire like nothing else has.
Hmm. I haven't seen a PHP package that would do nearly as well as Slash under heavy load. Kuro5hin is a perfect example - while they have similar hardware their site is usually slow and often painfully slow. And that's with a fraction of the traffic.
Slashcode seems to fall into the second camp. There doesn't seem to be a wide variety of people who have contributed, rather the credit is purely to CmdrTaco and friends.
Instead of doing all the work yourselves, why not have a todo list and let others make contributions to the project, rather than just implementing suggestions?
That would piss me off too.
Save yourself the emotional roller-coaster. If you wanna get laid, just pay for it.
I'm sure its been said many times before, but I guess it needs to be said again. There are no hidden API's! So I have to ask, what do people want that's not already being provided?
By the way, I even found help on msdn on a problem that occurs when you copy files to a full Samba volume. That was pretty interesting. Seems like Microsoft has at least some interest in providing interoperability.
Perhaps Microsoft would be more than happy to provide Samba with detailed documentation. I really have to wonder, have they ever asked for it? Or are they just demonizing them for no reason?
But the reason it will eventually succeed is that Microsoft can't compete against it, can't put it out of business. It will eventually succeed because it cannot be stopped.
By the way, I just got Mandrake 8.1 and the desktop looks phenomenal. Once the office products start to mature and we see some more games I think the desktop will start seeing market share numbers like Linux on the server. You have to understand, the server has 30 years of development behind it. The desktop will eventually get there. Its not a question of if, but when.
Organize boycotts, and create consumer awareness programs if you want the sweatshops to stop. They'll listen to the bucks, but probably won't listen to a bunch of angry tree huggers.
oops should have said "less than" instead of using the less than symbol. I meant to say "well, if you had a less than 1000 uid account, you could probably sell it. Others have. Just don't get caught or that account might get banned.
well if you had a
And for that matter, I agree. VA is going down the tubes fast and if this were my site I'd be thinking exit strategy. Slashdot needs to start selling subscribtions now, and start thinking about ways to sell advertising. Personally, I would subscribe, and I bet most daily readers of this site would. If 20% of the users on this site subscribed that would equal 100,000 subscribers. I think Slashdot could pay for itself.
Yes, as long as we retain our sovereignty and don't turn that over to a multi-national body. I think it would dangerous to allow a multi-national organization like the U.N. to have final say in matters of law and of military over the U.S. We have the longest running democracy of any nation, and it works. Thus, I think its dangerous for countries like Britain, with long-established laws, to turn over power to multi-national institutions like the EU. Let each country govern itself and come to agreements with other countries, but never turn over power or the right to have final say to these organizations. Doing so is a recipe for disaster; it places more power into the hands of fewer people, it makes it more likely for a despot to control more lands, and it takes away from people the ability to govern themselves. The right to self-govern is supreme in the U.S. and hopefully will remain so.
By doing so, we ensure our government responds to us as a people and has control of the military. As long as we have an elected government that controls the military, we don't have to worry too much about the power of other countries, and other multi-national organizations. But if we give up any power to multi-national organizations, we lose ability to govern ourselves, and we lose the freedoms we have worked for over 225 years to create and preserve.
As far as your statement on parsing is concerned, perhaps I was not clear about using formatted text files. By that I meant standard comma or tab delimited files. You don't need a parser to load those into a database, and any database will accept such files. The same can't be said about XML.
However, I agree. XML is a formatted text file, with the metadata built in. Once that becomes widespread enough that any database will accept these, then I'll agree. XML will be as useful as plain text, and likely more so.
I'm not just talking out of my ass either. I've worked with EDI systems(data in binary format means you need proprietary software on both ends), XML, and plain old text files. I've used all 3 in the context of transferring data between businesses, which is what XML aims to solve. My feeling is that plain old text files, along with a descriptive file of how the text file is laid out, is overall the best solution for most data interchanges between businesses.
One really good example of this is using diff. Suppose your supplier maintains a database of products you can order, and this data changes daily. Using text files you can easily diff todays file with the one you retrieved the day before and get a much smaller file to use to update your internal database. I can't imagine a more elegant solution using XML.
I have found one good solution that uses XML - outputting XML on the fly over the net in response to a query. If you have customers that query your data regularly over the web, any change to the HTML will throw their queries off if they are "screen scraping" to get at your data. XML solves this problem nicely, even if new fields are added or if the XML page layout changes in some way. I don't see the logic of actually storing XML in the database though.
My experience of being in a business where data interchanges take place on a regular basis with other businesses, is that formatted text files are still the best way overall. They are easier to deal with and faster than XML ever will be.
Instead of a registry lockdown, why not have an automated licensing check run on the companies software. You would have a program that scanned registries across the network for installed software, and check the installation against company licenses. It would quickly ferret out things like pirated copies of Photoshop and the like.
FYI, people like "Linux For Assholes", having proven themselves likely to write foul garbage rather than insightful posts, default to posting at -1. In other words, he wasn't moderated.
He's not "just a Sun employee" with a chip on his shoulder, he is a giant in his field. Give the guy the respect he deserves.
I recently put together a 1GHz Althon system complete with 17" monitor, CD burner and 256 MB of RAM for $600. So yeah, I still think I'd pay double for an equivalent Mac.
I'm starting to see more and more "normal" people like my parents and grandparents become aware of Microsoft's bullying business tactics. They couple what they've heard about Microsoft will the fact that Microsoft will force them to register their software online and are saying "no, thanks".
As is obvious to most of us, Microsoft needs some real competition. Its only occurred to me recently that the average Joe on the street is starting to realize they need real competition to stop them from bullying everyone from their suppliers to their customers.
Unfortunately, I can't yet recommend my grandma, who has trouble enough figuring out the intricacies of the mouse, that she go to something like linux. A Mac might be nice, however it would likely cost double what her PC cost.
The demand is definitely there for Microsoft to have some real competition, because nobody likes to be bullied. I wonder who will finally give it to them?
...to guess what technology the LinuxWorld guy thought was smarter?
No, I think not. I shall look elsewhere for real comparisons.
I'm using MySQL to perform selects that join five tables, including one with over 800,000 rows and one with over 5 million rows. It can perform these selects in a fraction of a second, more than adequate performance for my application. MySQL has also been very reliable for me.
I find the people here slamming MySQL are often doing so based on their theoretical, rather than practical knowledge. But perhaps you are different. I'd like to see you back up your claim.
You can choose a friendly guide in some celestial voice.
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill.
I will choose a path that's clear - I will choose Free Will.
Thank you.