I used Qwest DSL in Boise. When I heard of this I asked a droid why they were switching to msn for their home users, and he said it was because there was so much demand for it... ??? Who would demand to have his ISP switched to msn? I told him that I, for one, would be switching to another ISP.
Anyway I found that in the Boise area, there are several mom & pop type ISP's offering DSL connections on your Qwest hardware setup, interestingly enough they are based in Pocatello.
I signed up with one a couple of weeks ago and am
surely glad I did (so far).
I also understand that you can get an entirely different hw setup through McCleod(sp?), but I
haven't pursued it.
Where did you get the idea it was 'Liberals' who were pushing this stuff? It's the 'Consevatives' who are always trying to use 'National Security' to quash someone else's rights...
If anyone says "I believe in the first amendment, BUT..." that person probably, at their core, doesn't.
...First, explicit incitement to riot is NOT protected by the first amendment...
I don't want to be too picky, but if you read the First Amendment, you will notice there are no qualifications on the speech part, including incitement to riot. If you can qualify it for that, then any other qualifications are just as justified.
What is pretty well known is that monopolies can exist for reasons that have nothing to do with the quality of their products, or government intervention. The monopoly can be enforced by the necessity of interoperation.
The best example of this is driving on the right/left side of the road. Which side your community chooses might start out being arbitrary,
but pretty soon the 'users' are locked into whatever the choice was. Luckily noone has yet had
the wit to patent sided driving. Note that Sweden was able to undo its monopoly of left-handed driving, in order to interoperate more effectively with the rest of Europe, but the difficulty they had still reinforces the point.
Another good example is the querty keyboard, which was adopted precisely because it was inferior, (forcing slower typing precluded key jams), but made an empire for its inventor because the first secretaries learned it and everyone else had to follow.
This type of effect can be understood by recourse to mathematics (try game theory) or history, which
may be Left-Wing Hogwash, but believe me, hogwash might just be refreshing and even educational after a steady diet of whatever you have been imbibing.
Having waded thru 300 odd posts of hand wringing and back biting, I failed to see the most obvious
remedy mentioned. Writing Congressmen and columnists is all well and good, but so far it hasn't shown significant results.
The proper way to kill the DMCA is to make it innefective, by ensuring that the program in question is disseminated as broadly as possible over the internet. The real significance of the DeCSS case was that regardless of what the courts or the government did, the cat was out of the bag.
The most distressing thing to me about this case is that I have seen no evidence of Sklyarov's program ( or anyone else's ) being posted anywhere.
If you really want to make a difference, this is the strategy to follow.
Please, someone with access to his program, or the
necessary skills to duplicate it, get to work and post the damn thing (and become a martyr yourself if necessary, although that shouldn't be ineviatable.) and render the whole foolishness moot.
If you have scruples about violating Sklyarov's (or Elcomsoft's(?)) intellectual property rights,
by all means ask for donations for him or them, but this is war, and he is already a casualty.
If you don't think that the proper way to kill a law is by showing that it is unenforceable, or that doing so is immoral or unethical, then you
simple are living on the wrong planet.
I think it's (note correct usage of "it's") pretty
obvious that he was just trying to avoid the obligatory end of thread mandated by Godwin's Law..
Of course you have spoiled his plan..
IIRC, one of the main points of UCITA is that liability is the 'default' state of software license, and that a EULA is required to relieve the licensor of liability. Hence, Bill, with his
EULA's, will be able to evade liability, while
Linus, without a EULA, will be stuck and liable.
Hello! Sonny Bono was a Republican. The significance of this is that it is important for us average schmuck voters to start realizing that the best way of countering all this corporate crap coming down the pike is to NEVER vote Republican!
I think it is interesting that none of the comments mention the disquieting fact that this is apparently the same guy who is going to be deciding important issues about 'fair use' regarding Copyrights.
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I used Qwest DSL in Boise. When I heard of this I asked a droid why they were switching to msn for their home users, and he said it was because there was so much demand for it... ??? Who would demand to have his ISP switched to msn? I told him that I, for one, would be switching to another ISP.
Anyway I found that in the Boise area, there are several mom & pop type ISP's offering DSL connections on your Qwest hardware setup, interestingly enough they are based in Pocatello.
I signed up with one a couple of weeks ago and am
surely glad I did (so far).
I also understand that you can get an entirely different hw setup through McCleod(sp?), but I
haven't pursued it.
Isn't that what we all love about closed source?
Whether you can play sound files depends on how much video RAM you have. Sure sounds like the good old days, don't it.
How about if your /. ideas weren't worth including in anyone's thesis. At least as likely a scenario.
The thought has even occurred to me that there might be (shudder) paid M$ trolls submitting comments to /.
I'm probably just paranoid, tho.
Actually, I guess the real question is, do they
outnumber the bonafide contributors yet?
I think we already have a handicap. He's called 'W'.
Where did you get the idea it was 'Liberals' who were pushing this stuff? It's the 'Consevatives' who are always trying to use 'National Security' to quash someone else's rights...
Time to pull your head out and look around.
If anyone says "I believe in the first amendment, BUT..." that person probably, at their core, doesn't.
...First, explicit incitement to riot is NOT protected by the first amendment...
I don't want to be too picky, but if you read the First Amendment, you will notice there are no qualifications on the speech part, including incitement to riot. If you can qualify it for that, then any other qualifications are just as justified.
Hmm. I have been under the impression for some time now that this has already happened.
Sigh. If only you (and a few million other people plus Nader himself) had been clever enough to figure that out before the election. Oh, well.
What is pretty well known is that monopolies can exist for reasons that have nothing to do with the quality of their products, or government intervention. The monopoly can be enforced by the necessity of interoperation.
The best example of this is driving on the right/left side of the road. Which side your community chooses might start out being arbitrary,
but pretty soon the 'users' are locked into whatever the choice was. Luckily noone has yet had
the wit to patent sided driving. Note that Sweden was able to undo its monopoly of left-handed driving, in order to interoperate more effectively with the rest of Europe, but the difficulty they had still reinforces the point.
Another good example is the querty keyboard, which was adopted precisely because it was inferior, (forcing slower typing precluded key jams), but made an empire for its inventor because the first secretaries learned it and everyone else had to follow.
This type of effect can be understood by recourse to mathematics (try game theory) or history, which
may be Left-Wing Hogwash, but believe me, hogwash might just be refreshing and even educational after a steady diet of whatever you have been imbibing.
Having waded thru 300 odd posts of hand wringing and back biting, I failed to see the most obvious
remedy mentioned. Writing Congressmen and columnists is all well and good, but so far it hasn't shown significant results.
The proper way to kill the DMCA is to make it innefective, by ensuring that the program in question is disseminated as broadly as possible over the internet. The real significance of the DeCSS case was that regardless of what the courts or the government did, the cat was out of the bag.
The most distressing thing to me about this case is that I have seen no evidence of Sklyarov's program ( or anyone else's ) being posted anywhere.
If you really want to make a difference, this is the strategy to follow.
Please, someone with access to his program, or the
necessary skills to duplicate it, get to work and post the damn thing (and become a martyr yourself if necessary, although that shouldn't be ineviatable.) and render the whole foolishness moot.
If you have scruples about violating Sklyarov's (or Elcomsoft's(?)) intellectual property rights,
by all means ask for donations for him or them, but this is war, and he is already a casualty.
If you don't think that the proper way to kill a law is by showing that it is unenforceable, or that doing so is immoral or unethical, then you
simple are living on the wrong planet.
Jon Erikson, you are a master troll, and I, for one, salute you. Some swine seem not to have recognized or appreciated your pearls, however.
Any reasonably intelligent human being has to be a piss poor libertarian, so what's your point?
I think it's (note correct usage of "it's") pretty obvious that he was just trying to avoid the obligatory end of thread mandated by Godwin's Law.. Of course you have spoiled his plan..
That's funny, my favorite option would be to filter out everything BUT the sigs... I think the sigs are sometimes the best thing on /.
Thank you for mentioning the Reagan 'assassination by brain-death', so I don't have to. The 'zero-factor' still rules!
IIRC, one of the main points of UCITA is that liability is the 'default' state of software license, and that a EULA is required to relieve the licensor of liability. Hence, Bill, with his EULA's, will be able to evade liability, while Linus, without a EULA, will be stuck and liable.
I was always thankful to Nader for driving the price of a Corvair down into my price range when I was a student...
I hear Somalia has minimal government. Enjoy yourself.
preventative? No soup for you!
Hello! Sonny Bono was a Republican. The significance of this is that it is important for us average schmuck voters to start realizing that the best way of countering all this corporate crap coming down the pike is to NEVER vote Republican!
I think it is interesting that none of the comments mention the disquieting fact that this is apparently the same guy who is going to be deciding important issues about 'fair use' regarding Copyrights.