It's patently obvious to anyone who knows how ASP works that this was done by the nice folks at aspalliance.com and not by Microsoft. You can use ASP to build netscape and opera friendly sites with no problem. You can also use mod_perl and apache on linux to build sites that reject netscape clients and only allow ie.
I've seen the same thing done by linux sites but with ie users as the targets. It's not new and it's not likely to become popular as it alienates customers.
Finally you'll note that the URL is http://www.aspalliance.com/dagon/rejectNS/rejectNS.html
Dagon is a demonic fish god that was worshiped by the heathen cananites. This smacks of the actions of a lone satanist rather than a major corporation. Although I would expect satanists to like mozilla, the mascot is a demonic fire-breathing lizard after all.
Larry Augustin - President, CEO & Director, VA Linux Systems Great, a guy that's currently on the recieving end of a shareholder lawsuit due to not playing by the rules when his company IPO'd.
Tim O'Reilly - President, O'reilly Associates Isn't this the guy Bruce Perens described as the "biggest parasite in the open source community"? Why yes, I believe it is. This was part of why Bruce resigned from OSI and returned to the Free Software movement.
Eric Raymond - Author, The Cathedral and the Bazaar Didn't this guy threaten to kill Bruce Perens? Yes, I believe he did. Question for you ESR, why isn't Open Source a trademark anymore? Is it because you couldn't work and play well with others (namely Bruce)?
Randy Terbush - Co-founder, Director & Treasurer, Apache Foundation; Founder & CTO, Covalent Actually an OK guy by all accounts I've heard.
Bob Young - Chairman, Red Hat Software I think Mae Ling Mak said it best: There's a bug in redhat and his name is Bob. The way Bob reacted after discovering that one of his employess had been sexually harassing Ms. Mak online was disgraceful. There needs to be a zero tolerance policy against sexual harassment in the workplace. I hope the guy involved never works again.
Wow, talk about choosing the lesser of several evils.
Why isn't linux as good as xBSD?
Did a traumatic childhood experience give you a shaving phobia?
When was the last time you bathed?
Why are you so damned fat - don't you excercise?
Did you know that you have bits of food caught in your beard?
Do you even remember what fresh air feels like?
--Shoeboy
How is keeping a vulnerability secret until you've got a fix for it "security through obscurity?" There's a big difference between releasing source and releasing vulnerabilities. Releasing vulnerabilities only guarantees that they'll be exploited.
Even the mighty Linux community sometimes keeps vulnerabilities secret until a fix is released.
What makes this security through obscurity rather than good security practices?
Won't some strong virile slashbot please explain it to timid pert little me?
--Shoeboy
Members that discover a new cyber-threat -- a new strain of virus or a break-in method that foils existing electronic defenses -- will be able to send detailed warnings to the rest of the group via e-mail, telephone, fax and pagers.
I wish I had $750,000 dollars to sink into a non-profit center so that I could email, telephone, fax and/or page my friends when something important happened.
*Sigh*
Too bad only big buisness has these capabilities. I guess I'll go feed my carrier pigeons now.
--Shoeboy
This article screams out for a pro-Microsoft, anti-linux troll.
Failing that, a right-wing anti-government troll would work.
And let us not forget the beauty that is a left wing, anti-corporate, amerika is a cultural imperialist troll.
All 3 would pretty much write themselves.
I appreciate your throwing us a bone timothy, but trolling is just no fun without a challenge.
I feel a bit patronized.
--Shoeboy
Problèmes: Acceptation de criminel: " payez cet impôt, juste au cas où vous seriez un criminel. " C'est ridicule. Le paiement de l'assurance auto est une chose, parce que personne ne projette jamais avoir un accident, mais impôt des personnes juste au cas où elles décideraient de faire quelque chose de illégal. Shit. Qui volonté il aide? Qui est ceci censé pour bénéficier? Les artistes? Bullshit encore - ils obtiennent déjà vissés, juste comme ils ont toujours été, et continueront à être. Pas que chaque musicien est exploité, mais un grand nombre soyez, et ils ne verront pas un cent de ceci. Modèle d'affaires. Au noyau, c'est des impôts de prélèvement de gouvernement sur une population à étayer vers le haut d'un modèle périmé d'affaires. Si la vraie concurrence étaient présente dans l'industrie, les compagnies rechercheraient à améliorer leurs plans d'affaires plutôt que demandent le gouvernement une aumône. Il n'est pas mon travail de compenser des imbéciles des procédures de gestion échouées: la stupidité devrait être douloureuse.
--Shoeboy
In the days when he editted Sunstone, it was very different from what Sunstone became (which is why he left it). He still speaks with essentially the same voice he did then -- willing to explore the truths of his religion with honest eyes, and without losing his faith.
2 questions:
1. If Sunstone changed rather than Card, why does he refer to his "Sunstone phase"?
2. What exactly has Sunstone become? Since the excommunication of the September 6, it's been more conservative and mainstream than it was in the Card years.
Kathy Kidd's Paradise Vue books are well written and inciteful
Do yourself a favor and read Levi S. Peterson's "The Backslider". Actually, read anything by him. Your taste in Mormon fiction needs help.
Links? Sunstone doesn't even have a web site. (AFAIK)
They use AOL for @#$%'s sake.
SunstoneUT@aol.com is the email address. You can inquire about why Card refuses invitations to the symposium and the other suchnot I've mentioned.
--Shoeboy
Orson Scott Card is getting old.
As he ages, he becomes more and more devout.
He used to edit Sunstone, but now he won't even attend the Sunstone symposium because they allow excommunicated members of the church to speak.
He's been proclaiming some horrible pieces of uplifting trash as "the best Mormon novels ever written" and he's apologized for some of his early works.
I don't think he could write a quality sentence these days much less a novel.
Such a pity.
--Shoeboy
I think what we need is a truly open-source solution to the problem of printing.
Now, I know you're all saying "but what about patents?" That used to be a valid concern. Fortunately however, the printing press was invented in 1452, meaning that the patent expired in 1469 (this was back when patents lasted for 17 years - not 20 like they do now).
This means that we can LEGALLY reverse engineer the original Gutenberg press and distribute our version.
I emailed RMS about this and he's very excited. As long as we call it the Gnutenberg printing press we'll have the full support of the fsf.
Isn't it about time the linux community stopped relying on papyrus scrolls? This is a major step in making us competitive with M$ Winbloze (the 1337 h4x0r way to spell Microsoft Windows).
Of course it'll take years before we manage to get smooth fonts with the Gnutenberg printing press, but I think that's a small price to pay for freedom.
--Shoeboy
This seems like a great idea, usable as a computer in those situations where a full computer just doesn't "feel" right. When I'm taking notes, jotting down a poem, etc, I usually hate to type, rather, I like to scrawl my scribblings on a pad of paper. Don't ask me why, it just feels better to get those emotions down on ground up trees. However, since one can't send a sheet of paper to someone across the country nearly as fast as you can send an email, so I end up having to type it out anyways. This seems like it'll get rid of most of the redundancy of having to put down an idea twice just to get people to be able to read it.
Et Shoeboy, petit garçon très mal élevé, sache que tu es sans manières, et pas très marrant non plus. Si tu veux utiliser babelfish, il vaut mieux que tu sois poli, parce que les insultes sont toujours familières, et ne se traduisent pas très bien. Ben, j'ai plus rien à dire, parce que je crois que tout le monde pensent deja que il est con...
I translated this to english, and I'm a little worried about you.
This is what the fish gave me:
And Shoeboy, little boy with amazing buttocks, knows that I myself am thinking while touching of you. If you want to use babelfish, it is better that you are polished, because the sheen your skin intoxicating is. Ben, I have more anything to say, because I believe that everyone think already that he is beautiful...
Wow, I guess it is true what they say about the french.
--Shoeboy
Vous êtes un morceau sans valeur de droppings de babboon. Votre posez la question de slashdot était le morceau d'abats le plus sans valeur sur lequel j'ai jamais étendu des yeux. Si je vous rencontre jamais je donnerai un coup de pied votre âne. Non, brouillon qui, je violera votre âne. Et vous l'apprécierez. Ayez un jour agréable.
--Shoeboy
This is so cool!
I need to go refresh my collection of rootkits.
I'll show George W. Bush that he's not the only one who can rig an election.
--Shoeboy
Personally, I've never been a huge fan of OOP, so I tend to agree on a lot of these points.
Taco,
Some of us remember what slashcode looked like before pudge and friends started cleaning it up.
Not only are you opposed to OOP, but you don't seem to be terrible wild about structured programming either. Nor do you give readibility and maintainability the time of day. Your relationship with elegant code is in the "distant admiration" category and you seem to consider sobriety an impediment to productivity.
Not that I disagree with you on any of these points, I just wanted to mention that we allready know about them.
--Shoeboy
Damn Linus and his self mocking humor to hell. Doesn't he realize that mocking major figures in the geek community is a job for trolls?
Why does he have to be so damned friendly and likable? Why god, why?
Why can't he be a self important blowhard like ESR, Bruce Perens or (best of all) Theo De Raadt?
Doesn't he realize that he's making it impossible to mock him?
I can't believe the nerve of that fucker.
--Shoeboy
Thanks for reminding me.
One throw away comment and something like 15 responses going "uh, actually bind does hold the net together."
Slashbots crack me up at times.
--Shoeboy
Slashdot Mirror
It's patently obvious to anyone who knows how ASP works that this was done by the nice folks at aspalliance.com and not by Microsoft. You can use ASP to build netscape and opera friendly sites with no problem. You can also use mod_perl and apache on linux to build sites that reject netscape clients and only allow ie.
S .html
I've seen the same thing done by linux sites but with ie users as the targets. It's not new and it's not likely to become popular as it alienates customers.
Finally you'll note that the URL is http://www.aspalliance.com/dagon/rejectNS/rejectN
Dagon is a demonic fish god that was worshiped by the heathen cananites. This smacks of the actions of a lone satanist rather than a major corporation. Although I would expect satanists to like mozilla, the mascot is a demonic fire-breathing lizard after all.
--Shoeboy
Larry Augustin - President, CEO & Director, VA Linux Systems
Great, a guy that's currently on the recieving end of a shareholder lawsuit due to not playing by the rules when his company IPO'd.
Tim O'Reilly - President, O'reilly Associates
Isn't this the guy Bruce Perens described as the "biggest parasite in the open source community"? Why yes, I believe it is. This was part of why Bruce resigned from OSI and returned to the Free Software movement.
Eric Raymond - Author, The Cathedral and the Bazaar
Didn't this guy threaten to kill Bruce Perens? Yes, I believe he did. Question for you ESR, why isn't Open Source a trademark anymore? Is it because you couldn't work and play well with others (namely Bruce)?
Randy Terbush - Co-founder, Director & Treasurer, Apache Foundation; Founder & CTO, Covalent
Actually an OK guy by all accounts I've heard.
Bob Young - Chairman, Red Hat Software
I think Mae Ling Mak said it best: There's a bug in redhat and his name is Bob. The way Bob reacted after discovering that one of his employess had been sexually harassing Ms. Mak online was disgraceful. There needs to be a zero tolerance policy against sexual harassment in the workplace. I hope the guy involved never works again.
Wow, talk about choosing the lesser of several evils.
--Shoeboy
Why isn't linux as good as xBSD?
Did a traumatic childhood experience give you a shaving phobia?
When was the last time you bathed?
Why are you so damned fat - don't you excercise?
Did you know that you have bits of food caught in your beard?
Do you even remember what fresh air feels like?
--Shoeboy
How is keeping a vulnerability secret until you've got a fix for it "security through obscurity?" There's a big difference between releasing source and releasing vulnerabilities. Releasing vulnerabilities only guarantees that they'll be exploited.
Even the mighty Linux community sometimes keeps vulnerabilities secret until a fix is released.
What makes this security through obscurity rather than good security practices?
Won't some strong virile slashbot please explain it to timid pert little me?
--Shoeboy
Members that discover a new cyber-threat -- a new strain of virus or a break-in method that foils existing electronic defenses -- will be able to send detailed warnings to the rest of the group via e-mail, telephone, fax and pagers.
I wish I had $750,000 dollars to sink into a non-profit center so that I could email, telephone, fax and/or page my friends when something important happened.
*Sigh*
Too bad only big buisness has these capabilities. I guess I'll go feed my carrier pigeons now.
--Shoeboy
This article screams out for a pro-Microsoft, anti-linux troll.
Failing that, a right-wing anti-government troll would work.
And let us not forget the beauty that is a left wing, anti-corporate, amerika is a cultural imperialist troll.
All 3 would pretty much write themselves.
I appreciate your throwing us a bone timothy, but trolling is just no fun without a challenge.
I feel a bit patronized.
--Shoeboy
Don't be fooled by the article. Those guys aren't really the founders. Here's the real scoop from the REAL seti founders:
QIn'latDaq jevwI'
QIn'lat veng jaHtaH jevwI'
veHnaghmeyDaq QanmeH nejta' ghotpu'
'ach Hur ratlhta' wa' loD
ghaHDaq jaHta' qeylIS' 'ej jatlh nuq bIvangtaH
mughIjbe' SuS jatlh nagh ruSwI' je vISo'be' qabwIj
SuSDaq vIQam 'ej muvuvmoH 'oH
batlh Qochbe'ta' qeylIS 'ej vengDaq jaHta'
jajchu' ghoSpu' jevwI' 'ej loD HoHpu' 'oH
ghotpu' jatlh qeylIS qoH vuvbe' SuS
--Shoeboy
Problèmes: Acceptation de criminel: " payez cet impôt, juste au cas où vous seriez un criminel. " C'est ridicule. Le paiement de l'assurance auto est une chose, parce que personne ne projette jamais avoir un accident, mais impôt des personnes juste au cas où elles décideraient de faire quelque chose de illégal. Shit. Qui volonté il aide? Qui est ceci censé pour bénéficier? Les artistes? Bullshit encore - ils obtiennent déjà vissés, juste comme ils ont toujours été, et continueront à être. Pas que chaque musicien est exploité, mais un grand nombre soyez, et ils ne verront pas un cent de ceci. Modèle d'affaires. Au noyau, c'est des impôts de prélèvement de gouvernement sur une population à étayer vers le haut d'un modèle périmé d'affaires. Si la vraie concurrence étaient présente dans l'industrie, les compagnies rechercheraient à améliorer leurs plans d'affaires plutôt que demandent le gouvernement une aumône. Il n'est pas mon travail de compenser des imbéciles des procédures de gestion échouées: la stupidité devrait être douloureuse.
--Shoeboy
so where did you repost it? I'm curious. It was original and a true story.
--Shoeboy
So many problems here:
In the days when he editted Sunstone, it was very different from what Sunstone became (which is why he left it). He still speaks with essentially the same voice he did then -- willing to explore the truths of his religion with honest eyes, and without losing his faith.
2 questions:
1. If Sunstone changed rather than Card, why does he refer to his "Sunstone phase"?
2. What exactly has Sunstone become? Since the excommunication of the September 6, it's been more conservative and mainstream than it was in the Card years.
Kathy Kidd's Paradise Vue books are well written and inciteful
Do yourself a favor and read Levi S. Peterson's "The Backslider". Actually, read anything by him. Your taste in Mormon fiction needs help.
--Shoeboy
Kathy Kidd's Paradise Vue books are well written and inciteful
I bet you like User Friendly too.
--Shoeboy
Links? Sunstone doesn't even have a web site. (AFAIK)
They use AOL for @#$%'s sake.
SunstoneUT@aol.com is the email address. You can inquire about why Card refuses invitations to the symposium and the other suchnot I've mentioned.
--Shoeboy
Orson Scott Card is getting old.
As he ages, he becomes more and more devout.
He used to edit Sunstone, but now he won't even attend the Sunstone symposium because they allow excommunicated members of the church to speak.
He's been proclaiming some horrible pieces of uplifting trash as "the best Mormon novels ever written" and he's apologized for some of his early works.
I don't think he could write a quality sentence these days much less a novel.
Such a pity.
--Shoeboy
I think what we need is a truly open-source solution to the problem of printing.
Now, I know you're all saying "but what about patents?" That used to be a valid concern. Fortunately however, the printing press was invented in 1452, meaning that the patent expired in 1469 (this was back when patents lasted for 17 years - not 20 like they do now).
This means that we can LEGALLY reverse engineer the original Gutenberg press and distribute our version.
I emailed RMS about this and he's very excited. As long as we call it the Gnutenberg printing press we'll have the full support of the fsf.
Isn't it about time the linux community stopped relying on papyrus scrolls? This is a major step in making us competitive with M$ Winbloze (the 1337 h4x0r way to spell Microsoft Windows).
Of course it'll take years before we manage to get smooth fonts with the Gnutenberg printing press, but I think that's a small price to pay for freedom.
--Shoeboy
I cut and pasted this from netslaves.
I don't live in New York, I'm certainly not old enough to have been a frat-boy in 1984 and my IQ is in the low 150's rather than the high 130's.
I'd like to thank everyone who responded and/or moderated it up though - you made my day!
--Shoeboy
This seems like a great idea, usable as a computer in those situations where a full computer just doesn't "feel" right. When I'm taking notes, jotting down a poem, etc, I usually hate to type, rather, I like to scrawl my scribblings on a pad of paper. Don't ask me why, it just feels better to get those emotions down on ground up trees. However, since one can't send a sheet of paper to someone across the country nearly as fast as you can send an email, so I end up having to type it out anyways. This seems like it'll get rid of most of the redundancy of having to put down an idea twice just to get people to be able to read it.
Et Shoeboy, petit garçon très mal élevé, sache que tu es sans manières, et pas très marrant non plus. Si tu veux utiliser babelfish, il vaut mieux que tu sois poli, parce que les insultes sont toujours familières, et ne se traduisent pas très bien. Ben, j'ai plus rien à dire, parce que je crois que tout le monde pensent deja que il est con...
I translated this to english, and I'm a little worried about you.
This is what the fish gave me:
And Shoeboy, little boy with amazing buttocks, knows that I myself am thinking while touching of you. If you want to use babelfish, it is better that you are polished, because the sheen your skin intoxicating is. Ben, I have more anything to say, because I believe that everyone think already that he is beautiful...
Wow, I guess it is true what they say about the french.
--Shoeboy
vas faire foutre a la vache
--Shoeboy
Vous êtes un morceau sans valeur de droppings de babboon. Votre posez la question de slashdot était le morceau d'abats le plus sans valeur sur lequel j'ai jamais étendu des yeux. Si je vous rencontre jamais je donnerai un coup de pied votre âne. Non, brouillon qui, je violera votre âne. Et vous l'apprécierez. Ayez un jour agréable.
--Shoeboy
I assure you that I am an American.
As has been posted elsewhere, I'm in seattle.
--Shoeboy
This is so cool!
I need to go refresh my collection of rootkits.
I'll show George W. Bush that he's not the only one who can rig an election.
--Shoeboy
Personally, I've never been a huge fan of OOP, so I tend to agree on a lot of these points.
Taco,
Some of us remember what slashcode looked like before pudge and friends started cleaning it up.
Not only are you opposed to OOP, but you don't seem to be terrible wild about structured programming either. Nor do you give readibility and maintainability the time of day. Your relationship with elegant code is in the "distant admiration" category and you seem to consider sobriety an impediment to productivity.
Not that I disagree with you on any of these points, I just wanted to mention that we allready know about them.
--Shoeboy
Damn Linus and his self mocking humor to hell. Doesn't he realize that mocking major figures in the geek community is a job for trolls?
Why does he have to be so damned friendly and likable? Why god, why?
Why can't he be a self important blowhard like ESR, Bruce Perens or (best of all) Theo De Raadt?
Doesn't he realize that he's making it impossible to mock him?
I can't believe the nerve of that fucker.
--Shoeboy
Other things?
I know I probably don't want to know, but...
--Shoeboy
Thanks for reminding me.
One throw away comment and something like 15 responses going "uh, actually bind does hold the net together."
Slashbots crack me up at times.
--Shoeboy