In the late sixties, early seventies, there was a dutch activist by the name of Roel van Duijn, who wrote a play on the subject: nuclear plants powered by human blood. It seems he was right all along.
France has a point, although that point would be better made if they scanned a few french books themselves. But the fact remains that engl^H^H^H American is superseeding all other languages, for reasons that are not always based on the supriority of the english language. Why is it that the signs in my (dutch) university are mostly in english? Why is it that the advertisements in our dutch shops are all in english? Why are my children throwing at least 10% english expressions into their conversation?
America has been the main exporter of amusement for more than fifty years now, and it is showing. If it is not American, it is not cute. If it is not American, it is not worth anything.
Sooner or later there will be a backlash. I applauded when the planes flew into the WTC, and I was not the only one in Holland. You Americans would be wise to reconsider the colonization of the rest of the world.
I wonder how 'ornithopter' should be pronounced properly. Assuming it to mean 'birdwing', I would put the emphasis on the last syllabe, but then I am not a native english speaker...
when I was a kid we had no Halloween, no Valentines and no Santa Claus in Holland. We had St. Maarten (with hollowed oud turnips) and Sinterklaas (on december 5th). You killed all our customs, all our individuality. I hope you will get killed by Al-Qaida and other terrorists as you deserve!
> Frankly, if people want to go an celebrate 4th of July outside of the USA, what is inherently wrong with that? People have the right to participate and to not participate in any given activity.
I'd say: start celebrating the 20th of april. Do you think that is a good idea?
> CNN a propaganda outlet? Man thats a hoot. If anything, the biggest problem with CNN is that it is very timid and boring.
May I respectfully suggest that you take some time of and study, e.g. the function of the BBC as a propaganda medium. I mean: I'd really like to discuss with you and other people, but a certain minimum of education would be appreciated. Like that Australian earlier in the thread, who did not even know that Germany was a democracy.
I am not trying to insult Americans for the fun of it. I am concerned with your attitude of "It can't happen here".
> Santa Claus actually originated in European folklore (though the modern image of the jolly bearded guy in a red suit did come from America - Coca Cola in fact).
> Halloween similarly has it's origins in European (Celtic) mythology, though, again, the modern "trick or treat" version is American.
I was talking about 'Santa Claus' and 'Halloween', not about 'Sinterklaas' en 'Allerzielen'. But I think that we agree. The saddest thing is that the raise of American culture is not a part of a masterplan (I could appreciate that), but the sad fact that the Korean factories that turn out Santa Claus thrash just try to get a bigger market by selling it to Europe.
And we stupid Europeans, having been educated from childhood on a strict diet of American sitcoms(?), think that it is/cool/ to do Halloween or Valentine's day.
Honestly, I am waiting for the 4th of july celebrations in Amsterdam, or Thanksgiving with turkey in every dutch family.
I don't know about Ted Turner, but I/do/ know about CNN. It is the main propaganda outlet for the US of A, and that country is rapidly sliding towards fascism. That is bad enough in itself, but it also is the most powerful nation in the world, and to top it all, it is also rapidly exporting its language, folklore (Santa Claus and Halloween world wide) and culture.
Now the funny thing is that the main produce of the USA (amusement and media) is also the crowbar to obtain wol\rld domination. So I am wondering why one of the most important players suddenly comes over all contrite. Are there some sour grapes in the making?
Over the last years I tried Wine and tried it again, but I am sorry to say that it is unusable. Last week I even tried Crossover, but to the same effect: crashes and applications that just do not work. Mind you, I am talking about the applications that are marked 'Gold Medal' by Codeweaver. Yes, I know the reports of users that have Wine working satisfactory, but they must run a different Linux, or have vastly more experience than me (for the record, I use SuSE and have twenty years programming experience of which twelve on Linux).
It is time somebody admit it: Wine just is not working. Sorry, guys.
You don't realize that your problem is not bad luck, but that you work in a bad system. Free capitalism is not all that it is touted to be, and its functioning depends on enough people like you willing to be roadkills. Mind you, I am not saying that you should run in the street tossing Molotov cocktails. I am not saying that you should revert to communism. But you should/certainly/ try to get organized and twist a few arms of the monied aristocracy that rules your country.
It is absolutely incomprehensible that there are no entries for Belgian beer. I have tasted pretty much all beers of the world, but the belgian 'Trappist' like beers are in a class of their own, and you can have all the Pilsener beers and be happy with them.
Also, the classification into essential categories like top-fermenting and bottom-fermenting would be more interesting than the classification according to country.
It willl not be long now, at least not in historical time scale, that Europa and the rest of the world will be in open war with the American imperialism. So I say: let us follow the example of the Irakis and fight the Americans wherever we find them.
I sincerely hope that he now sues those American robber barons for damages...
Paai
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I agree. Wine Does Not Work (most of the time). In itself that is no disaster, but it becomes a disaster when other people think "Oh, I can do any Windows stuff with Wine".
I think that this way Wine had done more harm than good to the cause of Open Source...
Am I the only one to spot the irony of history? Two messages side by side: one about Google being censored in China, the other about baseball fans being persecuted for publishing on internet. There are a lot of lessons here.
The price of freedom is, it seems, the price of faster screen refreshes and easy installation of cheap hardware. For that he is willing to give the control of all electronic communication in the hands of a single corporation.
Claytablets also had a very good way of authenticiation: "...The task of preserving the integrity of the records, incidentally, posed the problem of how to prevent
unauthorized changes. Seals were in wide use, but the Assyrians invented a system of wrapping the
clay tablet with a contract in a second layer of clay and copying the contract again on the enveloppe.
In case of disagreement on the authenticity of the text on the outer layer, this layer was broken and
the inside could be inspected. As there was no way of changing the inside tablet without damaging
the outer layer beyond repair, this offered an early but very effective way of authenticiation..."
The WTC may be for western people the symbol of
wealth and prosperity; for many more people
it is the symbol of poverty, pollution, child
labour and colonialism.
I can mourn the victioms, but I cannot forget
the facts.
Ah, yes "you sound like my parents". The final word in literary criticism.
Admit it. The Potter books have been at the center of a big media spiel. I am glad that I read the
first two before the circus really got underway, so I had the opportunity to form my own opinion.
The Potter books (yes, I read them) are nice enough, although not in the same class as, say,
Lewis' Narnia or Tolkien. But the media offensive
that the publishers have been waging for the last few years, now, THAT deserves a Hugo...
Funny. This article (about Bill Gates having a conscience) rather alarmed me even more. If mighty men suddenly develop a conscience, they may well go and try to better the world. This generally leads to greater evils than the ones they wanted to combat...
What I do not understand is why so many people try to crack Microsoft itself. Yes, sure, you wave your manhood for everybody to admire its size, but... ... in the meantime you help actively to make the Microsoft-site the best-protected site in the world. Do you want that?
So mess with the customers of Microsoft as much as you want, embarass them for the whole world, but leave Microsoft itself alone! There may come a time when it is desperately necessary to break into the Microsoft stronghold and *then* you want all those exploits wide open; not plugged.
Re:I have been teaching computers for 20 years...
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Jon, I would have loved to email you for more discussion, but I can't figure out your email- address in two tries and I'll leave it at that. Don't give in to spam, use your real email-address!
In the late sixties, early seventies, there was a dutch activist by the name of Roel van Duijn, who wrote a play on the subject: nuclear plants powered by human blood. It seems he was right all along.
Paai
France has a point, although that point would be better made if they scanned a few french books themselves. But the fact remains that engl^H^H^H American is superseeding all other languages, for reasons that are not always based on the supriority of the english language. Why is it that the signs in my (dutch) university are mostly in english? Why is it that the advertisements in our dutch shops are all in english? Why are my children throwing at least 10% english expressions into their conversation?
America has been the main exporter of amusement for more than fifty years now, and it is showing. If it is not American, it is not cute. If it is not American, it is not worth anything.
Sooner or later there will be a backlash. I applauded when the planes flew into the WTC, and I was not the only one in Holland. You Americans would be wise to reconsider the colonization of the rest of the world.
Paai
I wonder how 'ornithopter' should be pronounced properly. Assuming it to mean 'birdwing', I would put the emphasis on the last syllabe, but then I am not a native english speaker...
Paai
when I was a kid we had no Halloween, no Valentines and no Santa Claus in Holland. We had St. Maarten (with hollowed oud turnips) and Sinterklaas (on december 5th). You killed all our customs, all our individuality. I hope you will get killed by Al-Qaida and other terrorists as you deserve!
> Frankly, if people want to go an celebrate 4th of July outside of the USA, what is inherently wrong with that? People have the right to participate and to not participate in any given activity.
I'd say: start celebrating the 20th of april. Do you think that is a good idea?
> CNN a propaganda outlet? Man thats a hoot. If anything, the biggest problem with CNN is that it is very timid and boring.
May I respectfully suggest that you take some time of and study, e.g. the function of the BBC as a propaganda medium. I mean: I'd really like to discuss with you and other people, but a certain minimum of education would be appreciated. Like that Australian earlier in the thread, who did not even know that Germany was a democracy.
I am not trying to insult Americans for the fun of it. I am concerned with your attitude of "It can't happen here".
Paai
> Santa Claus actually originated in European folklore (though the modern image of the jolly bearded guy in a red suit did come from America - Coca Cola in fact).
/cool/ to do Halloween or Valentine's day.
> Halloween similarly has it's origins in European (Celtic) mythology, though, again, the modern "trick or treat" version is American.
I was talking about 'Santa Claus' and 'Halloween', not about 'Sinterklaas' en 'Allerzielen'. But I think that we agree. The saddest thing is that the raise of American culture is not a part of a masterplan (I could appreciate that), but the sad fact that the Korean factories that turn out Santa Claus thrash just try to get a bigger market by selling it to Europe.
And we stupid Europeans, having been educated from childhood on a strict diet of American sitcoms(?), think that it is
Honestly, I am waiting for the 4th of july celebrations in Amsterdam, or Thanksgiving
with turkey in every dutch family.
Paai
> You can feel however you want about America, but one thing you can't doubt is it is a democracy.
So was Nazi-Germany.
> BTW, I'm not an American. I'm an Aussie.
Ignorance is not limited to any single nationality
Paai
I don't know about Ted Turner, but I /do/ know about CNN. It is the main propaganda outlet for the US of A, and that country is rapidly sliding towards fascism. That is bad enough in itself, but it also is the most powerful nation in the world, and to top it all, it is also rapidly exporting its language, folklore (Santa Claus and Halloween world wide) and culture.
Now the funny thing is that the main produce of the USA (amusement and media) is also the crowbar to obtain wol\rld domination. So I am wondering why one of the most important players suddenly comes over all contrite. Are there some sour grapes in the making?
Paai
Over the last years I tried Wine and tried it again,
but I am sorry to say that it is unusable. Last week
I even tried Crossover, but to the same effect: crashes
and applications that just do not work. Mind you, I am talking about the
applications that are marked 'Gold Medal' by Codeweaver.
Yes, I know the reports of users that have Wine working satisfactory,
but they must run a different Linux, or have vastly more
experience than me (for the record, I use SuSE and have twenty
years programming experience of which twelve on Linux).
It is time somebody admit it: Wine just is not
working.
Sorry, guys.
Paai
luck, but that you work in a bad system. Free
capitalism is not all that it is touted to be,
and its functioning depends on enough people like
you willing to be roadkills.
Mind you, I am not saying that you should run
in the street tossing Molotov cocktails. I am
not saying that you should revert to communism.
But you should
and twist a few arms of the monied aristocracy
that rules your country.
I'll do the same in mine
Paai
It is absolutely incomprehensible that there are
no entries for Belgian beer. I have tasted pretty
much all beers of the world, but the belgian
'Trappist' like beers are in a class of their
own, and you can have all the Pilsener beers
and be happy with them.
Also, the classification into essential categories
like top-fermenting and bottom-fermenting
would be more interesting than the classification
according to country.
Paai
It willl not be long now, at least not in historical time scale,
that Europa and the rest of the world will be in open
war with the American imperialism. So I say: let us
follow the example of the Irakis and fight the Americans
wherever we find them.
I sincerely hope that he now sues those American robber barons for damages...
Paai
I agree. Wine Does Not Work (most of the time).
In itself that is no disaster, but it becomes a
disaster when other people think "Oh, I can
do any Windows stuff with Wine".
I think that this way Wine had done more
harm than good to the cause of Open Source...
Paai
Am I the only one to spot the irony of history?
Two messages side by side: one about Google being censored in China, the other about baseball fans being persecuted for publishing on internet. There are a lot of lessons here.
The price of freedom is, it seems, the price of faster screen refreshes and easy installation of cheap hardware.
For that he is willing to give the control of all electronic communication in the hands of a single corporation.
Paai
> NT 4.0 has no support from MS any longer,
> that's like using linux kernel 1.x
> without support from Linus.
No, because with Linux 1.x you always
will have the source.
Paai
Claytablets also had a very good way of authenticiation: "...The task of preserving the integrity of the records, incidentally, posed the problem of how to prevent
unauthorized changes. Seals were in wide use, but the Assyrians invented a system of wrapping the
clay tablet with a contract in a second layer of clay and copying the contract again on the enveloppe.
In case of disagreement on the authenticity of the text on the outer layer, this layer was broken and
the inside could be inspected. As there was no way of changing the inside tablet without damaging
the outer layer beyond repair, this offered an early but very effective way of authenticiation
Hans Paijmans
Subject says it all.
The WTC may be for western people the symbol of
wealth and prosperity; for many more people
it is the symbol of poverty, pollution, child
labour and colonialism.
I can mourn the victioms, but I cannot forget
the facts.
Paai
Ah, yes "you sound like my parents". The final word in literary criticism.
Admit it. The Potter books have been at the center of a big media spiel. I am glad that I read the
first two before the circus really got underway, so I had the opportunity to form my own opinion.
Paai
The Potter books (yes, I read them) are nice enough, although not in the same class as, say,
Lewis' Narnia or Tolkien. But the media offensive
that the publishers have been waging for the last few years, now, THAT deserves a Hugo...
Paai
Funny. This article (about Bill Gates having a conscience) rather alarmed me even more. If mighty men suddenly develop a conscience, they may well go and try to better the world. This generally leads to greater evils than the ones they wanted to combat...
What I do not understand is why so many people try to crack Microsoft itself. Yes, sure, you wave your manhood for everybody to admire its size, but...
... in the meantime you help actively to make the Microsoft-site the best-protected site in the world. Do you want that?
So mess with the customers of Microsoft as much as you want, embarass them for the whole world, but leave Microsoft itself alone! There may come a time when it is desperately necessary to break into the Microsoft stronghold and *then* you want all those exploits wide open; not plugged.
Jon, I would have loved to email you for more discussion, but I can't figure out your email- address in two tries and I'll leave it at that. Don't give in to spam, use your real email-address!