Of course. Bash Microsoft and you get modded up to 5. BR>You claim that Microsoft has no trademark on Windows. That's irrelevant. The guy decided not to fight.
Thats funny. You dog people for bashing Microsoft, but you point out that he decided not to fight. Why did he not fight? Because he doesn't want to waste his time and HIS MONEY in court over this BS. Would you fight Microsoft? You, the individual? Didn't think so. You have better things to do in life than waste your time with that.
Its not irrelevant; its called choosing your battles. My bank account and my cheap ass lawyer vs Microsoft's and thier legions of laywers.. Hmm...
There are alternatives to violence. Reread the works of Dr. Martin Luther King or Gandhi for powerful accounts of effective alternatives. Nonviolent tactics did work against far more dangerous and evil enemies than the entertainment industry. Perhaps the newer communications tools such as the web can be used to organize effective boycotts and other tools of social change
Martin Luther King was murdered for what he believed in as well.
I also somewhat agree with the lawyer who responded to your post - that the lawyers aren't necessarily the problem... There really are two problems:
a) Most lawyers are still prostitutes, and no matter how immoral the case is, they will still represent the person with the money
b)We can't fix this problem at election time, because *all* politicians are corrupt. This is the exact reason we have wording in our Declaration of Independence which states, "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." Without that, we have exactly what we have today - a system whereby whoever gets elected gets and endless supply of money by doing 'favors' for corporations, special interest groups, lobbyists, etc. This is what the Found Fathers feared would happen AGAIN, so they put wording in their document that should a time such as that arise again, then damnit, we need to destory it before it gets out of control..
C'mon people, where are your damn pitch forks? Its gotten outta control, and rather than doing something about it, we're "arm-chair grumblers" in front of our computer.. You're probably getting ready to go watch that latest and greatest movie from Hollywood on your Sony bigscreen TV, drink a Coke, and maybe even read some Harry Potter afterwards. STOP BEING SHEEP. Stop feeding the man, and fight him. We (Americans) are fat and lazy - physically and politically.
As we all know, how pretty your user interface looks is the best barometer of how easy it is to use, how simple it is to program for, how much leverage applications get from the underlying API, and how powerful applications written using the underlying toolkit will be.
American readers should append the word "NOT" onto the end of the last paragraph.
Gorm and GNUstep are mostly about the underlying API. It's possible to rapidly build incredibly powerful applications using Gorm - significantly faster than you can with the KDE or GNOME toolkits.
Lets not forget the speed at which GNUstep runs. Why do we all accept the fact that computers keep getting faster, but our desktops keep getting slower? I can guarantee you my 386DX/33 with 8M of RAM would navigate within Windows 3.1's menus, and default programs FASTER than WinXP on a modern machine. Its sad that none of us complain more to the GUI developers (Gnome and KDE are NOT exempt from this either!). There is no reason for the bloat that we're all accustomed to.
Yes, we're going to put the UN in charge of the Internet.
The organization that put Libya in charge of human rights. Yes, Brilliant.
About time someone said that. The UN seems to think that if you're a member, you need a chance at do something, deserving or not. Well, life isn't fair, and just because little Joey got a new toy for good grades in school, doesn't mean I have to get a new one for failing half of my classes.
If the UN ran PE class, there would be no benchwarmers; they'd alter the rules to allow for a team of X number of players now, so all could play, and no one had hurt feelings. Well, thats not how life works,and damnit, thats not how governments work either.
You need to prove you can do the job, not just be there to have it handed to you.
Sorry, but this statement is total bullshit. Nothing back to the community ? Giving the customer a much better price-performance than everybody else means nothing?
It means absolutely nothing. We (humans) are bargin hunters. At least the masses are, because they don't understand quality, they understand quantity. Therefore, Dell's business model is sound. They should continue to do very well in the market place, and will probably put many of their competitors out of business...
This is where the trouble comes in. Their competitors are the ones designing the new technology that Dell makes a buck on. Not Dell. You can rant and rave all you want about assembly lines, mass production, cheap computers, yada yada yada, but in the end, when Dell has eaten the competition, there will be nothing to sustain Dell either, because Dell spends ZERO on R&D.
Perhaps Sun could learn to promote their products on their own merits, rather than insulting a competitor.
I think those ads speak very well of Sun's merits. A) Sun's servers use less power B)Sun's servers put off less heat C)Sun's servers are faster than Dell's.
Really, one thing to consider here: Sun makes an OS, makes CPUs, makes chipsets.. And we're not talking just the fabrication. They have engineers designing this stuff... What has Dell ever developed? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. They've developed nothing, except for a business model that takes other people's desgins and hard work, and mass produces them so each unit can make a $5 profit, and hope that they'll sell a million units.
They are the leech of the industry, and with our patronage, future R&D is in grave trouble, because they give nothing back to the community.
Say you send one 1MB Word document to 100 of your colleagues. In a relational database-based, Single Instance Store-driven mail server, that document takes up exactly 1MB on the server. If somebody in the organization forwards the Word doc to the remaining 900 people in your organization, how much space does it take on the server? 1MB
The Samba team publicly denoucned SCO for their GPL contridictions:
We observe that SCO is both attacking the GPL on the one hand and benefiting from the GPL on the other hand. SCO can't have it both ways. SCO has a clear choice: either pledge not to use any Open Source/Free Software in any of their products, or actively participate in the Open Source/Free Software movement and reap the benefits. For SCO to continue to use Open Source/Free Software while attacking others for using it is the epitome of hypocrisy.
The strength of Open Source/Free Software is that it is available to all without restrictions on fields of endeavor, as the Samba Team believes the ability to freely use, modify and learn from software code is one of the grounding principles of computer science, and a basic freedom for all.
Because of this, we believe that the Samba must remain true to our principles and be freely available to use even in ways we personally disapprove of.
Even when used by rank hypocrites like SCO.
Jeremy Allison, Marc Kaplan, Andrew Bartlett, Christopher R. Hertel, Jerry Carter, Jean Francois Micouleau, Paul Green, Rafal Szczesniak.
First they came for the catholics, and I said nothing because I wasn't catholic Then they came for the witches, and I said nothing because I'm not a witch Next they came for the jews, and I said nothing because I'm not jewish Now they've come for me, and there is no one left to say anything for me.
As a result, this produces people who, for instance, are certified for MS Exchange, but don't know much about SMTP -- they just know Exchange.
Nevertheless, I suppose it's still impressive when a 10-year old gets though these exams... if only because it means they did a lot of reading and actually worked with a computer (instead of just playing games on it). Hell, most kids that age have the attention span of a flash bulb!
I think its amazing that any kids these days can actually get into computers and start learning about how they work, how to program them, and what an interrupt is.
Windows, and GUIs in general make it so kids don't try to delve into the inner workings, because its not necessary anymore to actually do something with a computer. It obfuscates the underlying technology in such a way that you're exactly right - people are MCSE with a bonus of Exchange, but have no freaking clue that there is more to SMTP than the Virtual Server checkbox.
What kids need these days is a CLI - that piqued my interest, and with the low power machines of my day, you had to learn how everything worked in order to do anything. Now its just point-click-drool-consume.
I want circular windows.. We could even call the new OS "Portholes" rather than Windows.
Seriously though, I know its more difficult to program for a circular area than a rectangular one, but with modern video cards being able to do what they do, it'd be a neat thing to see.
spokesman Blake Stowell argued. 'We don't necessarily have issues with open source, we just have an issue with open-source technology that includes intellectual property it shouldn't' he said."
Yeah, he's got no problem with something that cost his company nothing, and actually makes their POS OS actually do something.
And how long ago was that? What kind of servers had loads increase by 20% when you dumped the "smart" NICs? How much faster have general purpose CPUs gotten since then? And whose unusually inefficient TCP/IP stack and/or Ethernet driver were you running?
"Smart" network cards are one of those bad ideas that keep coming back from the grave, because computer science seems to lose its collective memory every decade or so.
Fifteen years ago, Van Jacobsen did a wonderful presentation at SIGCOMM 1990 on just why they were such a bad idea. The reason is very simple. A modern, well-tuned and optimized TCP/IP stack can process a packet with only about 20 instructions on average. Very few "smart" controller cards have host interfaces that can be spoken to with so few instructions! The switch to and from kernel context will usually cost you more than TCP/IP.
Smart cards do more than just offload the CPU from handling TCP data. They offload the PCI bus from handling interrupts. Every packet of data triggers an interrupt. Do the math on a busy 100mbit network, where your standard ethernet packet is 1500. And thats the maximum packet size. You have much smaller packets on your lan, for the majority.
Now bump it up to a gigabit, or even the latest 10gigabit. See where this is leading? If the card can do the processing of the data without generating an interrupt, the host is much better off.
If interrupt congestion wasn't so much of an issue, we wouldn't have multiple PCI buses in servers, DMA, bus mastering, etc. These are all means to help keep the load on the host down, and allow the other cards in the system a chance to talk.
Because it would cost them money to (1) write coherent and complete documentation and (2) review that documentation to make it safe and legal for public consumption. Why would they spend all the extra time and money to do that when it doesn't bring them any more profit?
I disagree with that one. If I know Adaptec's RAID card won't work with my 2.6 kernel, but LSI's will, who's card am I going to buy? It affects their bottom line way more than they realize.
There is no way the public would touch this with a barge pole
That may be because most of the public doesn't have a barge pole, and the ones that do are probably somewhere where they aren't any dvds to touch with it.
Do I need to be the one that points out, again, that software piracy causes maybe a 5% profit loss? Most of those who use it illegally would never have paid for it, if they couldn't get it for free.
Damn, stop wasting your money on copy protection, macro-media, catus data sheild, yada yada yada, and focus on writing good software. Its not stopping ANYONE from using it illegally. Its only making it hard for those who would never pay for it to use it.
which if passed, would appear to be a departure from the requirements of the WIPO Internet Treaties as well as the international standards adopted by most OECD countries in the world.
OECD? WTF is that? Over-Economic-Corporate-Dictatorship?
The MPAA's president Dan Glickman applauded the move, stating he wanted to 'thank the congressional sponsors of this legislation for their strong advocacy for intellectual property rights.'"
Wait a minute. Dan has to do post-thanks as well as pre-thanks? How much money do these "sponsors" need to push bills through?
Slashdot Mirror
Electing this asshole for governer? Thats the big question.
... I just woke up and checked Slashdot... Have I been sleeping so long its now April Fool's Day?
Of course. Bash Microsoft and you get modded up to 5.
BR>You claim that Microsoft has no trademark on Windows. That's irrelevant. The guy decided not to fight.
Thats funny. You dog people for bashing Microsoft, but you point out that he decided not to fight. Why did he not fight? Because he doesn't want to waste his time and HIS MONEY in court over this BS. Would you fight Microsoft? You, the individual? Didn't think so. You have better things to do in life than waste your time with that.
Its not irrelevant; its called choosing your battles. My bank account and my cheap ass lawyer vs Microsoft's and thier legions of laywers.. Hmm...
There are alternatives to violence. Reread the works of Dr. Martin Luther King or Gandhi for powerful accounts of effective alternatives. Nonviolent tactics did work against far more dangerous and evil enemies than the entertainment industry. Perhaps the newer communications tools such as the web can be used to organize effective boycotts and other tools of social change
Martin Luther King was murdered for what he believed in as well.
I also somewhat agree with the lawyer who responded to your post - that the lawyers aren't necessarily the problem... There really are two problems:
a) Most lawyers are still prostitutes, and no matter how immoral the case is, they will still represent the person with the money
b)We can't fix this problem at election time, because *all* politicians are corrupt. This is the exact reason we have wording in our Declaration of Independence which states, "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." Without that, we have exactly what we have today - a system whereby whoever gets elected gets and endless supply of money by doing 'favors' for corporations, special interest groups, lobbyists, etc. This is what the Found Fathers feared would happen AGAIN, so they put wording in their document that should a time such as that arise again, then damnit, we need to destory it before it gets out of control..
C'mon people, where are your damn pitch forks? Its gotten outta control, and rather than doing something about it, we're "arm-chair grumblers" in front of our computer.. You're probably getting ready to go watch that latest and greatest movie from Hollywood on your Sony bigscreen TV, drink a Coke, and maybe even read some Harry Potter afterwards. STOP BEING SHEEP. Stop feeding the man, and fight him. We (Americans) are fat and lazy - physically and politically.
Re:I know where the MPAA got that figure
Must be one big ass.
Yes folks.
As we all know, how pretty your user interface looks is the best barometer of how easy it is to use, how simple it is to program for, how much leverage applications get from the underlying API, and how powerful applications written using the underlying toolkit will be.
American readers should append the word "NOT" onto the end of the last paragraph.
Gorm and GNUstep are mostly about the underlying API. It's possible to rapidly build incredibly powerful applications using Gorm - significantly faster than you can with the KDE or GNOME toolkits.
Lets not forget the speed at which GNUstep runs. Why do we all accept the fact that computers keep getting faster, but our desktops keep getting slower? I can guarantee you my 386DX/33 with 8M of RAM would navigate within Windows 3.1's menus, and default programs FASTER than WinXP on a modern machine. Its sad that none of us complain more to the GUI developers (Gnome and KDE are NOT exempt from this either!). There is no reason for the bloat that we're all accustomed to.
How quaint.
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Mmmmm.. Feed me more tv.. Must consume... Must consume...
Just like us, here in the US can stop receiving all that BS spam from China and Russia too! I think this breakup will work out good for us.
Yes, we're going to put the UN in charge of the Internet.
The organization that put Libya in charge of human rights. Yes, Brilliant.
About time someone said that. The UN seems to think that if you're a member, you need a chance at do something, deserving or not. Well, life isn't fair, and just because little Joey got a new toy for good grades in school, doesn't mean I have to get a new one for failing half of my classes.
If the UN ran PE class, there would be no benchwarmers; they'd alter the rules to allow for a team of X number of players now, so all could play, and no one had hurt feelings. Well, thats not how life works,and damnit, thats not how governments work either.
You need to prove you can do the job, not just be there to have it handed to you.
Seems kind of expensive for what they are. We use these at the office: http://www.infortrend.com/ which can be purchased from Adjile Systems.
Sorry, but this statement is total bullshit. Nothing back to the community ? Giving the customer a much better price-performance than everybody else means nothing?
It means absolutely nothing. We (humans) are bargin hunters. At least the masses are, because they don't understand quality, they understand quantity. Therefore, Dell's business model is sound. They should continue to do very well in the market place, and will probably put many of their competitors out of business...
This is where the trouble comes in. Their competitors are the ones designing the new technology that Dell makes a buck on. Not Dell. You can rant and rave all you want about assembly lines, mass production, cheap computers, yada yada yada, but in the end, when Dell has eaten the competition, there will be nothing to sustain Dell either, because Dell spends ZERO on R&D.
Perhaps Sun could learn to promote their products on their own merits, rather than insulting a competitor.
I think those ads speak very well of Sun's merits.
A) Sun's servers use less power
B)Sun's servers put off less heat
C)Sun's servers are faster than Dell's.
Really, one thing to consider here: Sun makes an OS, makes CPUs, makes chipsets.. And we're not talking just the fabrication. They have engineers designing this stuff... What has Dell ever developed? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. They've developed nothing, except for a business model that takes other people's desgins and hard work, and mass produces them so each unit can make a $5 profit, and hope that they'll sell a million units.
They are the leech of the industry, and with our patronage, future R&D is in grave trouble, because they give nothing back to the community.
Say you send one 1MB Word document to 100 of your colleagues. In a relational database-based, Single Instance Store-driven mail server, that document takes up exactly 1MB on the server. If somebody in the organization forwards the Word doc to the remaining 900 people in your organization, how much space does it take on the server? 1MB
Sounds like Cyrus IMAP to me.
The Samba team publicly denoucned SCO for their GPL contridictions:
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We observe that SCO is both attacking the GPL on the one hand and benefiting from the GPL on the other hand. SCO can't have it both ways. SCO has a clear choice: either pledge not to use any Open Source/Free Software in any of their products, or actively participate in the Open Source/Free Software movement and reap the benefits. For SCO to continue to use Open Source/Free Software while attacking others for using it is the epitome of hypocrisy.
The strength of Open Source/Free Software is that it is available to all without restrictions on fields of endeavor, as the Samba Team believes the ability to freely use, modify and learn from software code is one of the grounding principles of computer science, and a basic freedom for all.
Because of this, we believe that the Samba must remain true to our principles and be freely available to use even in ways we personally disapprove of.
Even when used by rank hypocrites like SCO.
Jeremy Allison,
Marc Kaplan,
Andrew Bartlett,
Christopher R. Hertel,
Jerry Carter,
Jean Francois Micouleau,
Paul Green,
Rafal Szczesniak.
Samba Team.
Taken from: http://linuxtoday.com/developer/2003082001326OSCY
First they came for the catholics,
and I said nothing because I wasn't catholic
Then they came for the witches,
and I said nothing because I'm not a witch
Next they came for the jews,
and I said nothing because I'm not jewish
Now they've come for me,
and there is no one left to say anything for me.
As a result, this produces people who, for instance, are certified for MS Exchange, but don't know much about SMTP -- they just know Exchange.
Nevertheless, I suppose it's still impressive when a 10-year old gets though these exams... if only because it means they did a lot of reading and actually worked with a computer (instead of just playing games on it). Hell, most kids that age have the attention span of a flash bulb!
I think its amazing that any kids these days can actually get into computers and start learning about how they work, how to program them, and what an interrupt is.
Windows, and GUIs in general make it so kids don't try to delve into the inner workings, because its not necessary anymore to actually do something with a computer. It obfuscates the underlying technology in such a way that you're exactly right - people are MCSE with a bonus of Exchange, but have no freaking clue that there is more to SMTP than the Virtual Server checkbox.
What kids need these days is a CLI - that piqued my interest, and with the low power machines of my day, you had to learn how everything worked in order to do anything. Now its just point-click-drool-consume.
I want circular windows.. We could even call the new OS "Portholes" rather than Windows.
Seriously though, I know its more difficult to program for a circular area than a rectangular one, but with modern video cards being able to do what they do, it'd be a neat thing to see.
spokesman Blake Stowell argued. 'We don't necessarily have issues with open source, we just have an issue with open-source technology that includes intellectual property it shouldn't' he said."
Yeah, he's got no problem with something that cost his company nothing, and actually makes their POS OS actually do something.
And how long ago was that? What kind of servers had loads increase by 20% when you dumped the "smart" NICs? How much faster have general purpose CPUs gotten since then? And whose unusually inefficient TCP/IP stack and/or Ethernet driver were you running?
"Smart" network cards are one of those bad ideas that keep coming back from the grave, because computer science seems to lose its collective memory every decade or so.
Fifteen years ago, Van Jacobsen did a wonderful presentation at SIGCOMM 1990 on just why they were such a bad idea. The reason is very simple. A modern, well-tuned and optimized TCP/IP stack can process a packet with only about 20 instructions on average. Very few "smart" controller cards have host interfaces that can be spoken to with so few instructions! The switch to and from kernel context will usually cost you more than TCP/IP.
Smart cards do more than just offload the CPU from handling TCP data. They offload the PCI bus from handling interrupts. Every packet of data triggers an interrupt. Do the math on a busy 100mbit network, where your standard ethernet packet is 1500. And thats the maximum packet size. You have much smaller packets on your lan, for the majority.
Now bump it up to a gigabit, or even the latest 10gigabit. See where this is leading? If the card can do the processing of the data without generating an interrupt, the host is much better off.
If interrupt congestion wasn't so much of an issue, we wouldn't have multiple PCI buses in servers, DMA, bus mastering, etc. These are all means to help keep the load on the host down, and allow the other cards in the system a chance to talk.
Because it would cost them money to (1) write coherent and complete documentation and (2) review that documentation to make it safe and legal for public consumption. Why would they spend all the extra time and money to do that when it doesn't bring them any more profit?
I disagree with that one. If I know Adaptec's RAID card won't work with my 2.6 kernel, but LSI's will, who's card am I going to buy? It affects their bottom line way more than they realize.
There is no way the public would touch this with a barge pole
That may be because most of the public doesn't have a barge pole, and the ones that do are probably somewhere where they aren't any dvds to touch with it.
Do I need to be the one that points out, again, that software piracy causes maybe a 5% profit loss? Most of those who use it illegally would never have paid for it, if they couldn't get it for free.
Damn, stop wasting your money on copy protection, macro-media, catus data sheild, yada yada yada, and focus on writing good software. Its not stopping ANYONE from using it illegally. Its only making it hard for those who would never pay for it to use it.
From the article:
which if passed, would appear to be a departure from the requirements of the WIPO Internet Treaties as well as the international standards adopted by most OECD countries in the world.
OECD? WTF is that? Over-Economic-Corporate-Dictatorship?
The MPAA's president Dan Glickman applauded the move, stating he wanted to 'thank the congressional sponsors of this legislation for their strong advocacy for intellectual property rights.'"
Wait a minute. Dan has to do post-thanks as well as pre-thanks? How much money do these "sponsors" need to push bills through?