Well, if you like getting all the new toys (new phones) about ½-1 years later than the rest of the world, then 1900Mhz is fine. Nokia, SonyEricsson and many other first design for 900/1800 band, not 1900. With population of 250mil and phone density of 20% US is not that a big of a market to fret over (when compared to china, yurop, india, and middle-east combined).
One single biggest reason US gets any phones at all, is that there needs to be something shown for investors. Something they can hold in their hand and use.
ha-ha. ROTFLMAO.
That was good one. Sheesh. Get a new phone from provider? Where are you living in, Siberia? Oh wait, there's the GSM net, they can just switch the card inside phone, any time. They can also have multiple phonecards with different numbers and have them in a single phone. But hell, all Yurop can do that to. So wheredoyoulive?
Funny thing is. I run Word 97 on my 2x1800XP, and you know what?
The fucking PoS(hit) still has those 2-3 sec pauses all the time. It didn't sped up from a PPro200 even a tiny bit.
The point in 2+ CPU systems. It's not about getting multithreaded apps gettin faster, it's about getting more programs run together better.
When using 2 cpus (or HT), when one process takes all the juice there's still some left for everything else, and system will appear more responsive.
So, there You go, You can encode some divx, and still browse comfortably net, or listen to mp3's, or watch some divx. (Of course I don't know how effective HT is, but my 2xAthlon lets me do just that).
mp3 is perfectly legal. many bands share their music via p2p networks. I also download some drivers & game demos from p2p, as it's often faster way to get them.
borrow a debian cd. if it's new enough (2.0 or something around there), it'll update itself all the way up. (you need a broadband connection though). Debian is also installable from 2 floppies (network install grabs everything from net). I believe mandrake & Redhat have those too.
it depends largely on what you do. If you handle many small files a lot, this would be an imporvement. For bigger files it's not yet known.
In theory it could speed up an httpd when clients access lots of different static html files. Also nntpd (news) would be afected. maildir / imap servers could benefit too.
What does this translate into real-world usage? Or am I just another stupid Micro-Serf who doesn't get that _every_ percentage increase is an increase to write to Slashdot about.
Do I have to explain everything?
Simple. MOER FERKIN' PR0N, FESTER, FESTER!!!
Well, it can't. I recently upgraded my machine from 200Ppro to 2x1800, and Word hasn't sped up a shit. It still pauses to think for some quarterseconds, not very long but very noticeable. So I think there's some other problems with word, it just doesn't seem to work correctly.
All the applications in Linux though have sped up tremendously. I knew that SMP evens the system load, but thought that there wasn't that many multithreaded applications, but the system just feels silken smooth (I first ran it with 1 processor, before modding XP's L5 bridge so they appear as MP).
If you get some PC's with enough RAM, and 'young' enough, I suggest you run Knoppix. It's a CD-ROM distro, and lives from ROM. It doesn't need to be installed, and doesn't need a hard-drive. It can save your settings on a flpppy though. (And it supports burning CD's). It has lots of niceties like autodetecting most if not all hardware, kde, openoffice and alike.
What I see you argueing is that the debian installer is purposefully left hard to use because it helps to keep the less skilled from using debian.
Well if you see that, then your vision is clearly better than mine, because I didn't say such thing. All I said that debian installer is not aimed at n00bs. It doesn't mean that it was done so on purpouse.
Frankly, improving installer that is already fully functional and is used for approx 15min out of 3-4 years of uptime, seems a bit ridiculous to me. If you want to do it, then go ahead, this is a free world, but demanding people doing this for free, is a bit fat for me.
Debian is not aimed at simple minds. It's done by developers for developers/power users. If you're n00b, then you should start with some other distro, with some available commersial support.
Then, When that becomes too limiting, move on to debian. At that point debian installer is not confusing, but raher powerful. (I just installed debian from scratch after disk failure, so I know what I'm talking about). That install of mine was first in 3-4 years.
my GF2MX PCI is not only fanless, it's also sinkless;)
It's not a great gaming card, but it runs some HW acceleration, and frankly, my processor speed is the one which lags behind. The card is clocked something like 175Mhz for core and 143 for memory. I've pushed memory to 160, but it starts to show lots of glitches (no hangs however). Ventilation is nonexistant, and I haven't touched it;)
I sure hope they can pull the same trick when Apple makes switch to x86 based boxen. At that time (03Q4-04Q3) any x86-proc will emulate hardware faster than it runs live on G4.
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Well, if you like getting all the new toys (new phones) about ½-1 years later than the rest of the world, then 1900Mhz is fine. Nokia, SonyEricsson and many other first design for 900/1800 band, not 1900. With population of 250mil and phone density of 20% US is not that a big of a market to fret over (when compared to china, yurop, india, and middle-east combined).
One single biggest reason US gets any phones at all, is that there needs to be something shown for investors. Something they can hold in their hand and use.
ha-ha. ROTFLMAO.
That was good one. Sheesh. Get a new phone from provider? Where are you living in, Siberia? Oh wait, there's the GSM net, they can just switch the card inside phone, any time. They can also have multiple phonecards with different numbers and have them in a single phone. But hell, all Yurop can do that to. So wheredoyoulive?
I tell you: In the Land of Phree .
Funny thing is. I run Word 97 on my 2x1800XP, and you know what?
The fucking PoS(hit) still has those 2-3 sec pauses all the time. It didn't sped up from a PPro200 even a tiny bit.
The point in 2+ CPU systems. It's not about getting multithreaded apps gettin faster, it's about getting more programs run together better.
When using 2 cpus (or HT), when one process takes all the juice there's still some left for everything else, and system will appear more responsive.
So, there You go, You can encode some divx, and still browse comfortably net, or listen to mp3's, or watch some divx. (Of course I don't know how effective HT is, but my 2xAthlon lets me do just that).
Please, please don't use Copy Protected , but rather Copy Prevented term when talking about shit like this.
Ankka means 'Duck' in Finnish, but why should anyone care..
mp3 is perfectly legal. many bands share their music via p2p networks. I also download some drivers & game demos from p2p, as it's often faster way to get them.
borrow a debian cd. if it's new enough (2.0 or something around there), it'll update itself all the way up. (you need a broadband connection though). Debian is also installable from 2 floppies (network install grabs everything from net). I believe mandrake & Redhat have those too.
it depends largely on what you do. If you handle many small files a lot, this would be an imporvement. For bigger files it's not yet known. In theory it could speed up an httpd when clients access lots of different static html files. Also nntpd (news) would be afected. maildir / imap servers could benefit too.
What does this translate into real-world usage? Or am I just another stupid Micro-Serf who doesn't get that _every_ percentage increase is an increase to write to Slashdot about.
Do I have to explain everything?
Simple. MOER FERKIN' PR0N, FESTER, FESTER!!!
most of bugs in bugzilla aren't real 'bugs', as in code flaws, but rather wishes for enhancement / policies.
To be sure, I give the fuckers /dev/random. If lucky, it'll screw their terminal and they won't bother me.
hm. I don't know a shit about makefiles, but I use autoconf & automake rather succesfully in my applications. And I'd suggest same to you =)
well, then that's your bug-testing. report compilation failure. heck, make oldconfig debians .config, and send all failed things.
Ever heard about SSH tunneling?
IMO screen + bitchx is a much better solution.
How can Word appear any faster at 3GHz?
Well, it can't. I recently upgraded my machine from 200Ppro to 2x1800, and Word hasn't sped up a shit. It still pauses to think for some quarterseconds, not very long but very noticeable. So I think there's some other problems with word, it just doesn't seem to work correctly.
All the applications in Linux though have sped up tremendously. I knew that SMP evens the system load, but thought that there wasn't that many multithreaded applications, but the system just feels silken smooth (I first ran it with 1 processor, before modding XP's L5 bridge so they appear as MP).
If you get some PC's with enough RAM, and 'young' enough, I suggest you run Knoppix. It's a CD-ROM distro, and lives from ROM. It doesn't need to be installed, and doesn't need a hard-drive. It can save your settings on a flpppy though. (And it supports burning CD's). It has lots of niceties like autodetecting most if not all hardware, kde, openoffice and alike.
What I see you argueing is that the debian installer is purposefully left hard to use because it helps to keep the less skilled from using debian.
Well if you see that, then your vision is clearly better than mine, because I didn't say such thing. All I said that debian installer is not aimed at n00bs. It doesn't mean that it was done so on purpouse.
Frankly, improving installer that is already fully functional and is used for approx 15min out of 3-4 years of uptime, seems a bit ridiculous to me. If you want to do it, then go ahead, this is a free world, but demanding people doing this for free, is a bit fat for me.
If you only have one machine.
Debian is not aimed at simple minds. It's done by developers for developers/power users. If you're n00b, then you should start with some other distro, with some available commersial support.
Then, When that becomes too limiting, move on to debian. At that point debian installer is not confusing, but raher powerful. (I just installed debian from scratch after disk failure, so I know what I'm talking about). That install of mine was first in 3-4 years.
somebody should drive into mud with a clue/4
You really think that libc6 dependancy is there 'just because'? Or that all those apps depending on libssl don't really use it?
Get a clue.
my GF2MX PCI is not only fanless, it's also sinkless ;) ;)
It's not a great gaming card, but it runs some HW acceleration, and frankly, my processor speed is the one which lags behind. The card is clocked something like 175Mhz for core and 143 for memory. I've pushed memory to 160, but it starts to show lots of glitches (no hangs however). Ventilation is nonexistant, and I haven't touched it
..and then progress to Linux 95, Linux 98, LiNTux, Linux 2000, LinuXP and then *drum roll* Li.NET?
You probably don't know it, but 'LiNTux' comes in Finnish language pretty close to 'Birdix' ('lintu' means 'bird' in finnish). Somewhat Tuxish..
I sure hope they can pull the same trick when Apple makes switch to x86 based boxen. At that time (03Q4-04Q3) any x86-proc will emulate hardware faster than it runs live on G4.
WINE is not a virtualization software. VMware is. WINE is a mere wrapper.