Not fair to blame Gosling for Swing. He mostly participated in actual Java development back when Java was still called Oak, and was still viewed mainly as an embedded systems language. Swing didn't appear until after Sun began its big push to sell Java as a general-purpose platform. By then, Gosling had been promoted to "Chief Scientist", a job that seems to consist mostly of giving speeches and writing papers.
I've heard variations of this story many times. You go ask a "primitive" person to count for you, hoping to learn their number words. They do so for a short while, but soon lose interest in your little game and insist that "there are no more". Investigators jump to the conclusion that not all cultures know how to count. But I'm convinced the truth is more like this: people that don't have a lot of use for numbers find talking about them intensely boring, find the "I don't know a word for that" a convenient end to the disucssion.
I read a classic example of this in Ishi in Two Worlds, which is a biography of the last Yahi Indian. When this guy first emerged from the wild in 1911, he gave investigators the usual "one, two, many" brushoff. But later, when Ishi was working as a janitor/informant at a museum in San Francisco, they discovered that he had no trouble counting the money he was paid -- in his native language! The difference was that Ishi cared about his money, but not about abstract linguistics.
OK, in most of the English-speaking world, "Broadband" is just a synonym for "High Bandwidth". But since this is Slashdot, I'm allowed to pick a technical nit and point out that the "correct" definition refers to a kind of multiplexing.
He's even bigger idiot if he starts treating something as if it's physical just because of those wacky theories, even if he's already tested her and knows that it is not the case.
He knows no such thing. Until somebody invents one of those magic Star Trek scanners, a medical test isn't something that authoritatively describes what is and isn't wrong with a patient's body. It's just another symptom subject to interpretation.
Mind you, I don't believe this woman is allergic to light bulbs either. That's not the point. Fixing a human being isn't like fixing a toaster. It's a complicated collaboration between physician and patient. Like all collaborations, it requires that both parties show some flexibility.
Now, it might well be that this particular patient needs to see a shrink of some kind. I'd be the last to deny that this is often the right choice. But a physician that uses psychiatric referrals to avoid dealing with "wonky" patients isn't doing his job.
I bet you're one of those that reboots your computer every time the tech support guy tells you, aren't you?
Hey! No need to be insulting!
...but the perception that he's being intellectually lazy isn't fair based on the circumstances presented.
The "circumstances presented" is that this physician was dismissing a whole class of patients as wackos that didn't deserve a proper listen. What else is that but bigotry? Of course, the fact that I view bigotry and intellectual laziness says something about my own prejudices....
It's all well and good to talk about treating patients holistically...
Excuse me, where do I suggest anything like that? I mean jeez, speaking of allergies -- the word "holistic" makes me break out in hives!
All I'm asking of this guy is that he not get intellectually lazy. He doesn't have to throw out his training to do that. He simply has to recognize that the stuff he learned in school is not handed down from Mount Olympus. If his training says one thing, and his patient says another, it does not necessarily follow that his patient is misguided.
Kind of silly asking this question on Slashdot. You appear to know more about chemical sensitivity issues than most of the people here. Plus this kind of discussion always brings out the arrogant know-it-alls who want to lecture you about it being all in your head.
One practical suggestion: that fancy air filter probably does some good -- but in my experience a simple activated carbon filter is much more effective -- and a lot cheaper!
Jeez guy, stop treating conditions, start treating people. OK, your patient has some wacky theories. But you're an idiot if you just dismiss them because they're not in your textbook. Your patient isn't going to get better unless she develops some intuition into her own condition.
In any case, you're doing what I've seen too many doctors do: you're avoiding dealing with issues you have no patience for, and doing so by stereotyping some of your patience as wackos. I guess it's OK for Rush Limbaugh to do that with Liberals, but a physician has no business with that kind of intellectual laziness.
Finally, you need to educate yourself on the whole mind-body thing. A perfectly sane person can think themselves into all kinds of immunological difficulties. There's plenty of stuff in the literature about people who get hayfever from being around artificial flowers.
And then there's me and cigarette smoke. I get the nastiest headaches from the slightest whif. Not suprising, since my skin tests for tobacco produce whelts the size of raisins. But then why do I get these same headaches from watching Bogart movies?
--Highlander 2 and 3 **NEVER HAPPENED**, kay?;-) The only ones that truly exist are the 1st one and the one with Adrian Paul.
You mean Endgame? But that one can't have happened in the same universe has the first movie, since it has Duncan McLeod outliving Conner McLeod, and the first movie has Conner McLeod outliving all the other immortals (including, presumably, Duncan McLeod).
If you think Highlander II is the worst movie of all time (and I agree it's a serious stinker), you obviously haven't seen Highlander III, Highlander IV....
How many little things like this has various Mozilla people working on it? I'd say "ho hum", except that this project has the backing of two leading Open Source citizens, IBM and Novell. I surely hope this means increased recognition of the importance of web standards. There are too many specs that sound exciting, but never go anywhere, except to be described in some hard-to-read document on w3.org.
The Mozilla Foundation isn't a charity -- they got a donation, and are going to use it.
That's what a charity does -- people give them money, and they spend it in ways that are consistent with their charter.
Let me guess -- you associate the word "charity" with well-meaning handouts that mainly benefit people who have lots of lame excuses for not working. There are charities like that, but that's not what the word means.
Sure, but why? The whole point of a program like graphviz is to spare you exactly that kind of manipulation. Plus, tweaking a graph on the XML level would be a nightmare.
Carrying every conceivable grocery isn't implied in the term "grocery store"
But carrying every possible kind of packet is implied by "internet service". Yeah, that's consistent.
I could argue you with you point by point, but why should I bother? You're insisting on words that have meanings that suit your arguments. Not a productive discussion.
I got interested in Graphviz when I did a Tech Writing contract that required me to use Doxygen. One useful feature of Doxygen is that it can feed inheritance and dependency information to graphviz to create cool diagrams for your API manuals. Alas, Graphviz only knows how to connect nodes with simple arcs. That means you can't follow standard conventions for creating things like org charts. And even if you're not that picky, you need more contro over placement and line drawing if you're going to readable charts with more than a very few nodes.
FreeMind is just a freeware version of either MindJet or some other software for doing Mind Mapping. If it's like other MM software, it's a brainstorming tool -- which means it's deliberately messy. Not good for doing presentations.
The same reason everybody else does an IPO: to get filthy stinking rich. It's just that those hippies at Craigslist just don't have that particular priority.
The amount of money Craigslist rakes in sounds like a lot, but it's just enough to pay the bills and cover the (probably ample) payroll. Not a fraction of what they could make if they charged for more of the services they already provide, never mind expanding their operation. Which is fine with me -- it's not like greed is mandatory.
By your logic, a "grocery store" should stock every grocery there is. Come to think of it, that'd be great. Then I wouldn't have to hunt around for those obscure cookies I like and nobody else does. Of course, it'd be hard on the grocers, since they'd have to stock a lot of stuff they'd never sell. But that's their problem, right?
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Not fair to blame Gosling for Swing. He mostly participated in actual Java development back when Java was still called Oak, and was still viewed mainly as an embedded systems language. Swing didn't appear until after Sun began its big push to sell Java as a general-purpose platform. By then, Gosling had been promoted to "Chief Scientist", a job that seems to consist mostly of giving speeches and writing papers.
I read a classic example of this in Ishi in Two Worlds, which is a biography of the last Yahi Indian. When this guy first emerged from the wild in 1911, he gave investigators the usual "one, two, many" brushoff. But later, when Ishi was working as a janitor/informant at a museum in San Francisco, they discovered that he had no trouble counting the money he was paid -- in his native language! The difference was that Ishi cared about his money, but not about abstract linguistics.
OK, in most of the English-speaking world, "Broadband" is just a synonym for "High Bandwidth". But since this is Slashdot, I'm allowed to pick a technical nit and point out that the "correct" definition refers to a kind of multiplexing.
Mind you, I don't believe this woman is allergic to light bulbs either. That's not the point. Fixing a human being isn't like fixing a toaster. It's a complicated collaboration between physician and patient. Like all collaborations, it requires that both parties show some flexibility.
Now, it might well be that this particular patient needs to see a shrink of some kind. I'd be the last to deny that this is often the right choice. But a physician that uses psychiatric referrals to avoid dealing with "wonky" patients isn't doing his job.
All I'm asking of this guy is that he not get intellectually lazy. He doesn't have to throw out his training to do that. He simply has to recognize that the stuff he learned in school is not handed down from Mount Olympus. If his training says one thing, and his patient says another, it does not necessarily follow that his patient is misguided.
One practical suggestion: that fancy air filter probably does some good -- but in my experience a simple activated carbon filter is much more effective -- and a lot cheaper!
In any case, you're doing what I've seen too many doctors do: you're avoiding dealing with issues you have no patience for, and doing so by stereotyping some of your patience as wackos. I guess it's OK for Rush Limbaugh to do that with Liberals, but a physician has no business with that kind of intellectual laziness.
Finally, you need to educate yourself on the whole mind-body thing. A perfectly sane person can think themselves into all kinds of immunological difficulties. There's plenty of stuff in the literature about people who get hayfever from being around artificial flowers.
And then there's me and cigarette smoke. I get the nastiest headaches from the slightest whif. Not suprising, since my skin tests for tobacco produce whelts the size of raisins. But then why do I get these same headaches from watching Bogart movies?
If you think Highlander II is the worst movie of all time (and I agree it's a serious stinker), you obviously haven't seen Highlander III, Highlander IV....
My favorite quote from a review of Show Girls. "Breasts, breasts, and more breasts. I like breasts too, but I never thought they could act."
Your definition of a bad movie seems to be, "It wasn't the movie I wanted it to be."
Looks fine on my monitor. Perhaps you need to adjust your alpha or brightness?
How many little things like this has various Mozilla people working on it? I'd say "ho hum", except that this project has the backing of two leading Open Source citizens, IBM and Novell. I surely hope this means increased recognition of the importance of web standards. There are too many specs that sound exciting, but never go anywhere, except to be described in some hard-to-read document on w3.org.
I agree with you. But the initial conversation was about org charts. I think you'll agree that Mind Mapping tools aren't very good for that.
Let me guess -- you associate the word "charity" with well-meaning handouts that mainly benefit people who have lots of lame excuses for not working. There are charities like that, but that's not what the word means.
Sure, but why? The whole point of a program like graphviz is to spare you exactly that kind of manipulation. Plus, tweaking a graph on the XML level would be a nightmare.
I could argue you with you point by point, but why should I bother? You're insisting on words that have meanings that suit your arguments. Not a productive discussion.
I got interested in Graphviz when I did a Tech Writing contract that required me to use Doxygen. One useful feature of Doxygen is that it can feed inheritance and dependency information to graphviz to create cool diagrams for your API manuals. Alas, Graphviz only knows how to connect nodes with simple arcs. That means you can't follow standard conventions for creating things like org charts. And even if you're not that picky, you need more contro over placement and line drawing if you're going to readable charts with more than a very few nodes.
FreeMind is just a freeware version of either MindJet or some other software for doing Mind Mapping. If it's like other MM software, it's a brainstorming tool -- which means it's deliberately messy. Not good for doing presentations.
The amount of money Craigslist rakes in sounds like a lot, but it's just enough to pay the bills and cover the (probably ample) payroll. Not a fraction of what they could make if they charged for more of the services they already provide, never mind expanding their operation. Which is fine with me -- it's not like greed is mandatory.
By your logic, a "grocery store" should stock every grocery there is. Come to think of it, that'd be great. Then I wouldn't have to hunt around for those obscure cookies I like and nobody else does. Of course, it'd be hard on the grocers, since they'd have to stock a lot of stuff they'd never sell. But that's their problem, right?
I'm amazed that the Beeb actually found the budget for a levitating Dalek. But I don't find the fact interesting enough to actually watch the episode!