I suggest we all hit the books, become lawyers, congressman and senators and abolish unjust laws like the DMCA. Then we can hunt down the real criminals responsible for such laws and lock their asses up.
I would recommend that you try Mandrake. I have installed Red Hat, Mandrake and Debian in the past month and as far as ease of use and easy installation Mandrake beats them both. I have seen quite a few posts recommending Red Hat. Here are a few reasons I would chose Mandrake instead. Let's talk about out of the box functionality.
1) Mandrake definately has the easiest install program. Red Hat comes close.
2) My mouse wheel worked when X started. This is not always the case with other distro's. While this might seem trivial to those already using Linux we have to understand that Windows users are used to things working (hold the flames) when they are plugged in. Trying to configure a cryptic file in/etc/X11/ is just out of the question for a newbie.
2)Disks are mounted automatically in Mandrake. Again this is just my experience with the 3 previously mentioned distros. This is a no brainer for those who have used Linux for a significant amount of time. But for someone trying out Linux for the first time imagine when they want to grab some files of CD-R and realize that they can't just pop it in, open up the file manager and browser to/mnt/cdrom.I could never get this to work under Red Hat. In Mandrake, you put the disk in and it's mounted. It has worked since Mandrake 7.2 (maybe even earlier?). And Debian? haha. Not out of the box.
Yeah, thats only two reasons, but I didn't want to make this too long. Again, I am talking about out of the box functionality. You put the CD-ROM in, boot up, install, and you get most functionality from Mandrake. For a Windows user I believe that they will get the closest Windows experience with Mandrake. Maybe that's not what we want. I mean we want them to see that Linux can do much more than Windows. But, you have to start somewhere. Use Mandrake for about 6 months, learn your way around a Unix system, then install Debian. (poster is biased)
Yeah, but where is the Webmail support?
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I still can not retrieve my Webmail even though the Netscape 6.1 download page says that it has the ability to do so. They have been saying this since The first Netscape 6 betas. Has anyone else had any luck with this feature? If I could send and recieve my Webmail with the Netscape Mail client I would use it all the time. I find Web based mail to be short on features and just clunky. I loved Messenger, but since my only choice of Email with Bellsouth DSL is Web based (Bellsouth's web based Email is a joke) I signed up with a Netscape account. It's small thing like this that start to deter people from using a product. Don't tout a new feature if it doesn't work. I tried to get my roommate to switch to Netscape 6 because she could check her Webmail with it. But when it doesn't work she asks why she should bother upgrading to 6.1 since this is one features that would make her use it. Also, on the download page they show a new Theme and tell you that you too can have this theme. But when you go to the Theme download page it is nowhere to be found. Inconsistencies will ultimalely push people away from your product. Netscape/AOL should stop relying on release numbers to draw people to their product. Does anyone still download a browser because it has a higher version number? Maybe when there was actually a browser war. That is over. Stick to making a product with features that work.
Well, I just finished reading through every post, even the ones down at -1. What is going here? Slashdot is a good website. I have been coming here for years, before it was actually Slashdot. Granted, many of the technical articles have been lost somewhere in the submission pile, but I still come back. Why are there so many people who visit this site and absolute hate it? Why put that much effort into posting something negative? It just seems pretty juvenile. All these links to that guy's ass are really getting old. Yeah, it's not shocking anymore. We have seen it enough. I got it in an Email the other day. (yawn) Come with something new please. It's rare that I read all of the posts associated with an article. I don't know if I will read many more after this. I realize that is why the moderation system is in place, but this is just stupid. I am a bit a conspiracy theorist so I have come to my own conclusions on this matter. Are the majority of the people posting these negative comments working for a certain Redmond company? I mean, what better way to get the Linux community to completely fall apart and look ridiculous but by planting this hate in the heart of the community where MANY Linux users go daily? It's probably not the case and judging from what I have read so far I am sure you will put me in my place and tell me how wrong I am. I just don't understand it. Granted, VA Linux will not make or break the Linux community. It might put 2 extremely talented programmers out of work, but I doubt it. We will still have Enlightenment. I have to agree with those that actually stayed on topic here. VA Linux charges too much money for something that many of us could put together for a 1/3 of the price. And all this shit about ESR. Why are we attacking people? A company is not doing well and we want to kick them while they are down. I don't know much about ESR. I read his book. It was ok. So what. If he bragged about his money, well that was stupid, but all you really know about him you read in some article. Granted I'm sure many of you are very knowledgeable when it comes to computers and software, etc. But reading many of these posts, I was just reminded of these two guys I used to work with. Swore up and down about Microsoft this and CD-burner that, blah, blah, blah. They did this all day long. People at work thought they were so smart. They were so quick to point out why Linux sucked and Microsoft was so great. Well, neither of them was ever able to get Linux installed on their computers. That's when they came to me looking for help. You know what? I use Microsoft; I use it to play games. I'm not going to scream one way or the other anymore. Just to cover my ass; I'm sure that for all of you screaming "Linux sucks" there are plenty of you who have installed it. Maybe you are Mac person, maybe BSD, whatever. "Linux sucks, BSD sucks, this sucks, that sucks." What a bunch of children. I haven't posted much on Slashdot and I don't know if this is helping my 'karma.' I really don't care. Linux used to be about adventure. Being able to write code and give it away for free, knowing how your computer works. No, I don't think you can make money off of it. The bubble has crashed and we have to come to back to reality. VA Linux is just another casualty in what will continue to be an economically depressing year. I hope they are there when it's over, but if not, some guy will be up late writing code that you Slashdot haters will complain about. "It sucks, it sucks!" Write a book or something. Title it "The year I linked to that guy's ass over 400 times when posting to Slashdot: And How I disguised it as another link." Oh, you are a genius. Learned HTML today did we? I'm sure I will be flamed to all hell for this one. Oh well, I expect it. The maturity level around here is the equivalent of a child in a schoolyard. I won't even post anonymously so you can send me a bunch of hate mail or maybe some little script that you cut and pasted. Again, VA Linux has a bad business model. I'm talking to the people who stayed on topic. I agree, give people the option of an operating system. For some odd reason people want to use Microsoft. Let them. But, I believe VA Linux would run into the problem with Microsoft's criminal licensing schemes. That, and the company is unfortunately called VA Linux. Again they based the company around a free operating system and thought they could make money doing it. I don't think they are stupid. With all the hype a while back everyone thought you could make money with Linux. I think many of these companies were a bit overzealous. Also they were playing with OTHER people's money and therefore other people expected results. I don't know if this was the case with VA Linux. I don't pretend to know anything about VA Linux other than: Rasterman works there, Mandrake works there, and they sell computers. Everything else is pure speculation. What I do know is that Linux was never about deadlines and always about making a stable operating system. I almost wish it would go back to those "hobbyist" days. Linux is getting a bad name, one that may not be able to be shaken off. That's too bad. Anyway, Rob, Hemos and the others, I appreciate the site and I will continue to visit everyday. I just don't think I will read the comments anymore.
In my area, Wilmington, NC, It is not uncommon for me to get speeds between 1-2 Mbps. I am also only about 4 kilometers from a CO. I seem to remember reading an article in Scientific American about the future of Broadband (October 1999), it of course had an article concerning DSL. It mentioned something about a then emerging, global standard called G.Lite. G.Lite limits the data rates to 1.5 Mbps downstream and 0.5 Mbps upstream. By limiting the speeds it allows for about 70% of American households to reliably experience the same results. It also lowers costs and power consumption. It may be that G.Lite or a form of it has been adopted by a majority of the providers of DSL in America.
I doubt it is the processor, I am only running a 200mhz machine. The graphics just change too fast. My guess would be that they don't want you to see too much of the phone at once (if that makes any sense). It's not coming out for a while now and the caption says that the actual phone dimensions and appearence may vary. Or it could just be a crappy page like you said.
Couldn't have said it better. My closet is full of old PCs, Macs, laptops, modems, monitors, etc. I am determined to find a use for them someday, maybe a sculpture made out of old PCs would be cool.
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"The rescue package comes after quite a turbulent time at SuSE HQ, but the company seems optimistic about the future."
I'd be pretty optimistic too if someone raised 45.5 million for my company. But seriously, why SuSE?
I suggest we all hit the books, become lawyers, congressman and senators and abolish unjust laws like the DMCA. Then we can hunt down the real criminals responsible for such laws and lock their asses up.
I would recommend that you try Mandrake. I have installed Red Hat, Mandrake and Debian in the past month and as far as ease of use and easy installation Mandrake beats them both. I have seen quite a few posts recommending Red Hat. Here are a few reasons I would chose Mandrake instead. Let's talk about out of the box functionality. 1) Mandrake definately has the easiest install program. Red Hat comes close. 2) My mouse wheel worked when X started. This is not always the case with other distro's. While this might seem trivial to those already using Linux we have to understand that Windows users are used to things working (hold the flames) when they are plugged in. Trying to configure a cryptic file in /etc/X11/ is just out of the question for a newbie.
2)Disks are mounted automatically in Mandrake. Again this is just my experience with the 3 previously mentioned distros. This is a no brainer for those who have used Linux for a significant amount of time. But for someone trying out Linux for the first time imagine when they want to grab some files of CD-R and realize that they can't just pop it in, open up the file manager and browser to /mnt/cdrom.I could never get this to work under Red Hat. In Mandrake, you put the disk in and it's mounted. It has worked since Mandrake 7.2 (maybe even earlier?). And Debian? haha. Not out of the box.
Yeah, thats only two reasons, but I didn't want to make this too long. Again, I am talking about out of the box functionality. You put the CD-ROM in, boot up, install, and you get most functionality from Mandrake. For a Windows user I believe that they will get the closest Windows experience with Mandrake. Maybe that's not what we want. I mean we want them to see that Linux can do much more than Windows. But, you have to start somewhere. Use Mandrake for about 6 months, learn your way around a Unix system, then install Debian. (poster is biased)
I still can not retrieve my Webmail even though the Netscape 6.1 download page says that it has the ability to do so. They have been saying this since The first Netscape 6 betas. Has anyone else had any luck with this feature? If I could send and recieve my Webmail with the Netscape Mail client I would use it all the time. I find Web based mail to be short on features and just clunky. I loved Messenger, but since my only choice of Email with Bellsouth DSL is Web based (Bellsouth's web based Email is a joke) I signed up with a Netscape account. It's small thing like this that start to deter people from using a product. Don't tout a new feature if it doesn't work. I tried to get my roommate to switch to Netscape 6 because she could check her Webmail with it. But when it doesn't work she asks why she should bother upgrading to 6.1 since this is one features that would make her use it. Also, on the download page they show a new Theme and tell you that you too can have this theme. But when you go to the Theme download page it is nowhere to be found. Inconsistencies will ultimalely push people away from your product. Netscape/AOL should stop relying on release numbers to draw people to their product. Does anyone still download a browser because it has a higher version number? Maybe when there was actually a browser war. That is over. Stick to making a product with features that work.
Well, I just finished reading through every post, even the ones down at -1. What is going here? Slashdot is a good website. I have been coming here for years, before it was actually Slashdot. Granted, many of the technical articles have been lost somewhere in the submission pile, but I still come back. Why are there so many people who visit this site and absolute hate it? Why put that much effort into posting something negative? It just seems pretty juvenile. All these links to that guy's ass are really getting old. Yeah, it's not shocking anymore. We have seen it enough. I got it in an Email the other day. (yawn) Come with something new please. It's rare that I read all of the posts associated with an article. I don't know if I will read many more after this. I realize that is why the moderation system is in place, but this is just stupid. I am a bit a conspiracy theorist so I have come to my own conclusions on this matter. Are the majority of the people posting these negative comments working for a certain Redmond company? I mean, what better way to get the Linux community to completely fall apart and look ridiculous but by planting this hate in the heart of the community where MANY Linux users go daily? It's probably not the case and judging from what I have read so far I am sure you will put me in my place and tell me how wrong I am. I just don't understand it. Granted, VA Linux will not make or break the Linux community. It might put 2 extremely talented programmers out of work, but I doubt it. We will still have Enlightenment. I have to agree with those that actually stayed on topic here. VA Linux charges too much money for something that many of us could put together for a 1/3 of the price. And all this shit about ESR. Why are we attacking people? A company is not doing well and we want to kick them while they are down. I don't know much about ESR. I read his book. It was ok. So what. If he bragged about his money, well that was stupid, but all you really know about him you read in some article. Granted I'm sure many of you are very knowledgeable when it comes to computers and software, etc. But reading many of these posts, I was just reminded of these two guys I used to work with. Swore up and down about Microsoft this and CD-burner that, blah, blah, blah. They did this all day long. People at work thought they were so smart. They were so quick to point out why Linux sucked and Microsoft was so great. Well, neither of them was ever able to get Linux installed on their computers. That's when they came to me looking for help. You know what? I use Microsoft; I use it to play games. I'm not going to scream one way or the other anymore. Just to cover my ass; I'm sure that for all of you screaming "Linux sucks" there are plenty of you who have installed it. Maybe you are Mac person, maybe BSD, whatever. "Linux sucks, BSD sucks, this sucks, that sucks." What a bunch of children. I haven't posted much on Slashdot and I don't know if this is helping my 'karma.' I really don't care. Linux used to be about adventure. Being able to write code and give it away for free, knowing how your computer works. No, I don't think you can make money off of it. The bubble has crashed and we have to come to back to reality. VA Linux is just another casualty in what will continue to be an economically depressing year. I hope they are there when it's over, but if not, some guy will be up late writing code that you Slashdot haters will complain about. "It sucks, it sucks!" Write a book or something. Title it "The year I linked to that guy's ass over 400 times when posting to Slashdot: And How I disguised it as another link." Oh, you are a genius. Learned HTML today did we? I'm sure I will be flamed to all hell for this one. Oh well, I expect it. The maturity level around here is the equivalent of a child in a schoolyard. I won't even post anonymously so you can send me a bunch of hate mail or maybe some little script that you cut and pasted. Again, VA Linux has a bad business model. I'm talking to the people who stayed on topic. I agree, give people the option of an operating system. For some odd reason people want to use Microsoft. Let them. But, I believe VA Linux would run into the problem with Microsoft's criminal licensing schemes. That, and the company is unfortunately called VA Linux. Again they based the company around a free operating system and thought they could make money doing it. I don't think they are stupid. With all the hype a while back everyone thought you could make money with Linux. I think many of these companies were a bit overzealous. Also they were playing with OTHER people's money and therefore other people expected results. I don't know if this was the case with VA Linux. I don't pretend to know anything about VA Linux other than: Rasterman works there, Mandrake works there, and they sell computers. Everything else is pure speculation. What I do know is that Linux was never about deadlines and always about making a stable operating system. I almost wish it would go back to those "hobbyist" days. Linux is getting a bad name, one that may not be able to be shaken off. That's too bad. Anyway, Rob, Hemos and the others, I appreciate the site and I will continue to visit everyday. I just don't think I will read the comments anymore.
In my area, Wilmington, NC, It is not uncommon for me to get speeds between 1-2 Mbps. I am also only about 4 kilometers from a CO. I seem to remember reading an article in Scientific American about the future of Broadband (October 1999), it of course had an article concerning DSL. It mentioned something about a then emerging, global standard called G.Lite. G.Lite limits the data rates to 1.5 Mbps downstream and 0.5 Mbps upstream. By limiting the speeds it allows for about 70% of American households to reliably experience the same results. It also lowers costs and power consumption. It may be that G.Lite or a form of it has been adopted by a majority of the providers of DSL in America.
I doubt it is the processor, I am only running a 200mhz machine. The graphics just change too fast. My guess would be that they don't want you to see too much of the phone at once (if that makes any sense). It's not coming out for a while now and the caption says that the actual phone dimensions and appearence may vary. Or it could just be a crappy page like you said.
Couldn't have said it better. My closet is full of old PCs, Macs, laptops, modems, monitors, etc. I am determined to find a use for them someday, maybe a sculpture made out of old PCs would be cool.
Ha, .19 and I have been drinking. Maybe that is my blood alcohol?
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought this was the PS2 discussion board. I'll leave the "I'm an ingnorant asshole" room now. My deepest apologies