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The PS2 Experience
rubyred writes: "With all the fuss surrounding the launch, SEGames has some PS2 coverage by several of the editors who had vastly different experiences on the launch night ranging from actually getting a PS2 to standing outside of a Wal-Mart in the pouring rain with a blow-up Shark and not getting one. Other features include "the first 24 hours with it""
I didn't get a PS2 *sigh*.
However, if I had, I can imagine that my first emotions would been of absolute joy, knowing that I could then sell it for $5000 on e-bay!
Seriously, though...is it really worth that much?
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I have two friends that are going to gross over 5k each by hording playstations. So now only rich boys are getting them? Is their anyway to prevent this and let the gammers and hard core players get to them?
Hey, to each man his own, but still..... Are you that impatient/needy to get it that soon? I find it kinda funny too, that people in other nations are oppressed and not getting food, in ours, we have whiners about not getting a $300 gaming system the first night it comes out.... I don't know.. give it some thought.
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I love my PS2 model 60 with 10mhz 286, 40 meg harddrive and microchannel architecture. Runs DOS 3.3 like a dream!!!!
I know it's offtopic, but it's not every day you run across a picture like this!
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/. topic for funny pictures of Bill Gates (there ought to be!) this is the perfect candidate for the icon.
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After 10 hours in the rain 50 of us got ours I can't say the same for the 150+ people in line who didn't. Was it worth all of the hype? Yes of the three lauch titles I purchased 2 are great (Kessen,and Tekken Tag)The third Ever Grace is only ok but the graphics are still incredible. Frys electronics was also giveing away a free DVD of Jurassic Park which looks better on the PS2 than on my Sony DVD player also looking in the parental controll menu it appears that you can set the region codes to whatever you want, has anyone seen if it really works?
"Never trust a computer you can't throw out a window." -Steve Wozniak
I'm getting really tired of all this hype about the P2. ESPECIALY from slashdot. You know, the same slashdot that posts many stories about how Rambus is evil for suing eveyone and their mother who even though about DDR SDRam. Or Sony who is part of both the evil RIAA and MPAA. And what happens? We get articles upon articles about the SONY playstation 2 run on RAMBUS RDram. So what is it...we scream about how evil something is until they give us something we want, then we shut up? Our our morals bought that easily? If you are that concerned about your rights being stripped away, don't support the companies that are doing it!
No offense, man. I like video games as much as the next geek, but this is stupid. Ya'll sound like a bunch of 13 year old girls trying to get tickets to an N'Sync concert.
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My PS2 experience...
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Also, since Loki is developing UT for Linux, the game could start having a presence here on Slashdot. Better get that story icon ready for the "unreal" topic, Rob.
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I think Sega is the one hording them... maybe they can actually make some money on a console!
its just an example of an extremely high demand product, which happened to have an extremely low supply. but, as long as someone deems a product worth an extremely high price, they will be sold.
we've seen it a thousand times, but i cant remember such an extreme case. or a case focused at retired 25 year-olds who have retired after their ipo.
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If you hadn't gathered from all the pre-release hype and game releases, the Sony theme is blue. Blue is everywhere. [snip]
I'm surprised the marketing folks at Sony didn't first swing their color design by psychologists first, since we've known for almost forty years now that colors have profound effects on people's moods, and people's moods have profound effects on their willingness to buy products. (Marketing may be a developed art, but it still has room to learn from the sciences.)
"Cool" colors like blue don't sell products to Sony's intended audience well. They have calming effects, relieve tension in the viewer, and encourage the consumer to withdraw into himself or herself instead of reaching out and buying the product. A far better choice would've been red, since red is an "active" color, promoting aggression, excitement, increase bloodflow and stimulate the autonomic nervous system, and otherwise stimulate precisely the same effects in consumers that the PS2, as a videogame console, is intended to stimulate. Anyone who's been to the cereal section of a supermarket can attest to red's popularity among sugary products aimed at young people, whereas blue is reserved for hygiene products and products aimed at the geriatric population. Why is the Playstation 2 different?
Sony's success with the PS2 relies almost as much if not more so on marketing as it does on a genuinely more enjoyable product. Little slip-ups like these make me wary and concerned for their prospects. On the other hand, these projected sales if realized would set aside all fears such as mine.
-- Anne Marie
The obsession with the Playstation 2, an expensive game console that most minorities won't even be able to afford, is disgusting. That fact that this site, Slashdot, would choose to focus so much attention on such a topic when there are people (especially African-Americans) starving in the streets and/or not getting an education, it's a shame. It shows that the people running Slashdot are either racist or ignorant or both.
African-Americans in the United States, have to struggle just to get by. They don't have the luxury of buying luxury items like the PS2. Slashdot is once again showing a strong slant against the African-American by posting many stories about the PS2, and ignoring African-American and minority issues. This cannot stand.
The fact that the PS2 game console is going to be mainly in the hands of Caucasian suburbanites, is once again evidence of the increasing discrepancy and disparity in wealth distribution in the US. This diseven spread of wealth is a direct result of slavery, and reparations are the only answer.
Forty acres and a mule is a start, but only a start. I want mine with interest. My ancestors were kept down for centuries, and there has to be some kind of reckoning. That's what reparations are about. The blood and sacrifices of my anncestors and antecedents can't be allowed to go unpaid for. Maybe if these snotty Caucasian kids would give their 500 dollars to African-Americans instead of wasting it on a nintendo, that would be a start. Only a start, though, mind you.
This is the second installment in my 'The Fine Perspective' essay series, an ongoing series of essays which will focus on African-American issues vis a vis Slashdot articles and the world of high technology. The theme of reparations for African-American slavery will be one of the strong threads running through my work.
About the Author:
In 1995, Tyrone Fine was awarded a Bachelor of Arts in Computer Science and a Bachelor of Arts in African-American Studies from Amherst University. After spending time at several large name computer companies, Tyrone grew tired with the racism and caucasian old boy network in the technology world. Tyrone is presently involved in founding an organization to fight racism in the high-tech arena.
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Okay, I have to agree that the hype surronding the PS2 is ridiculous. I wish people would realize that its not all it's cracked up to be.
First and foremost, the games suck right now. So, what's the rush, people? You're going to get barely to no enjoyment out of it because of your limited choices on the games. So, just relax, wait for some good games, and hopefully by then PS2's will be readily available.
Second, there's other consoles to consider. True, the PS2 probably beats the pants off Dreamcast (once good games start being developed for it), but from the research I've done, the PS2 is way underpowered compared to the upcoming consoles... namely the X-Box. What can I say about X-Box... it's going to kick ass. It has the best video chip in the making (from nVidia), will be easy to develop for (it's got PC hardware for crying out loud), and is not aimed at being the center entertainment console (like the PS2 was suppossed to be). That's the short and sweet version of my X-Box promo. Trust me... it will kick ass.
I think we should be worried about the PS2. It is supposedly the hardest platform to develop for EVER. Ever wonder why PS2 has lost most of its exclusive titles to the X-Box? Well, one of the main reasons is the PS2 is such a bitch to develop for, I'm not sure whether or not we're going to see enough quality games for it. Anyways, that's just some thoughts...
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I once had an experience with a PS2 ... it sucked! Not only did it NOT have a hard drive, but every last piece of equipment in the damn thing was proprietary! Booted from a floppy, and kinda looked funny... almost resembled a mac. If my memory serves me right, I think it only ran at 33mhz on a good day.
Oh wait... different PS2! Sorry.
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First, welcome to the real world. It is true with many things you can buy, especially on luxary items. This is called supply and demand. Here, as you can see, supply outstrips demand. Thus prices must rise, otherwise we'll have really distorted economics.
Secondly, is it really more fair to award them based on who is the biggest geek? Or whom we presume benefits most? Who is going to determine this? It seems to me that letting simple economics dictate who gets these things is the most equitable way. If you really want toys like these before everyone else, you have one choice. Get a better paying job, make sacrifices, earn more money, and be willing to cough it up when the opportunity presents itself. Otherwise, shut your mouth.
...So when can we expect to start seeing Bleem 2?
You're using her as bait, Master!
Seriously, I fear that a conspiracy is in the mix somehow. This seems like a mixture of the retail customer hypnotism schemes portrayed in "Halloween", "Batman Forever", and the Chin'PokoMon episode of South Park combined. We might see the former PS2 owners in a zombie-like state, where all that they do is buy animé magazines and surf to hentai sites. Not since Street Fighter II have I been worried about such an alienation of our culture by a video game console industry.
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So I can uncheck it from my preferences.
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the matrix is the Reality that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
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sheesh, and you call yourself a geek
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How is the X-Box more evil then the PS-2? The Ps2 is completly closed, you need to pay tons of money for a dev kit, then you need to pay tons more to ship games (witch can then be censored by sony)
With the X-Box on the other hand, you only need VC++. You might even be able to develop with CygWin, I don't know, and you don't have to pay fees to ship your game either. I'm not really sure how M$ expects to make money, though.
There are a lot of companies that are a lot worse then Microsoft, they just arn't in the position that Microsoft has. Sony is actualy pretty bad.
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Q: Does it play pong?
A: No.
Q: Does it contain within in a CSS compliant player, helping to fund the revocation of consumer rights?
A: Yes.
Q: THEN WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU BUYING IT?
A: It's a little faster than the dreamcast, even though the games aren't as good.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGGHHHH.
Burn the playstation 2!!!!
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Why does it keep seeming like every time I visit Slashdot recently I think I accidentally went and started reading Sony press releases? You know, the ones put out by the same Sony that's part of the MPAA and RIAA and which slashdot constantly criticizes? I can see maybe one announcements, but come on, two or three per day? This is getting ridiculous.
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Step 2: Take a societal issue (i.e. racism)
Step 3: Attempt to merge the two completely unrelated issues.
The fact he has a B.A. in Computing Science should have clued you all in.
"The market alone cannot provide sufficient constraints on corporation's penchant to cause harm." -- Joel Bakan
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... how's the DVD playback? I heard that the Japanese model had rather bad DVD playback, reminiscent of software decoding on a low-end PC. I also heard that Sony was improving the DVD side of things for the N. American market (hence the alleged component shortage). I wanna know... can you save yourself the expense of buying a DVD player if you get one of these?
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I cant stand this PS2 craze anymore. Even worse, Sony seems to have bought off my favorite and only alternative station in my city. This was what the DJs, Dumbass and Dumbasser said on the morning show today.
Dumbass: Ya like the PS2 came out yesterday. Its the fastest and best technology out there! No comp could match it!
Dumbasser: Ya! hu hu hu.. ya hu hu like.. ya hu hu hu..
Dumbass: Someone told me that Sony didnt sell this to China cause it had a chip capable of launching missles! WOW!
Dumbasser: Ya hu hu hu missles hu hu.. Shoot.. BOOM! hu hu hu... why I was laughing?.. oh ya BOOM! hu hu hu...
....... and the sad part is... he wasnt stoned...
Damnit they know the PS2 chips can luanch missles, they know to much. Better use my powerful 486 sx 25mHz to send a nuke at them WAIT A MINUTE! Its my only link to real music! DAMN YOU SONY! DAMN YOU TO HELL!
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Sony is the biggest juggernaut of the Big 5 record companies, and is one of the key members/creditors/benefactors of the MPAA.
Stop the inanity. Don't support Sony's pride, greed, envy, anger, lust, gluttony, and sloth. I can also prove how Sony has committed all seven deadly sins.
"Ancillary does not mean you get to rule the world." --U.S. Circuit Judge Harry Edwards, speaking to the FCC's lawyer
Do I think that what Sony does has no effect on me as a technologist, and that their actions should be ignored? Nope.
If I were the editor of a radical, anti-government, magazine, would I report on what the government is doing, or would I ignore it?
What Sony have produced is of interest to us. It's interesting because of technologically what it is. It's interesting because of the effect it has on the market. And it's interesting because it will influence other manufacturers, setting standards that others will have to meet. It's also interesting because, right now, it looks like Sony's PS2's biggest threat is the so-far unreleased Microsoft X-Box. Neither organization is what I would call a friend to open systems, indeed, they're open system's biggest enemies. I don't know about you, but when these two are involved in anything, I want to know about it. Just as, say, an Israeli might be interested in wars between Iraq and Kuwait.
If Slashdot's aim was nothing more than a cheerleader to the open source movement, then yes, "boycotting" Sony news might make sense. But it isn't, it's a discussion group, it covers more than open systems, and the PS2 is interesting, both as technology, and what politically it represents. It's absolutely right Slashdot should cover it.
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Maybe you should get off your high horse and shut yo fucking mouth, racist.
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"the first 24 hours with it"
Next we will see on the front page. My first sexual experience with a PS2.
Yikes this thing has gotten more coverage than Patents lately
Jeremy
How the hell did you get through college using words like "who don't get nowhere". Why don't you start accumulating your own wealth instead of being jealous of mine. Gimme gimmie gimmie thats all I hear. I don't owe you a fucking thing! Lincoln could have sent your black asses back to the mother land but it cost too much. I don't see any of you trying to help your own continent, maybe the ebola outbreaks, aids, famine, and war have something to do with it.
The truth is you aren't helping your cause by further seperating blacks and whites. Move to canada or europe if you love socialism so much.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
How do they get screenshots for these consoles? Do they sit there with a camera and take pictures of the TV set like we did when we were 8 and got a high score on an activision game and were trying to get our "Pitfall Harry's Adventure Troop" patch or whatever it is? Or do they run the console output into a video card? My experience has always been that you can get decidedly mixed results when trying to take screenshots of things that use overlay buffers for output (like most PC-TV thingys...). Anyone know?
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back in 1998, when Windows 98 was released. That was probably the only time that people swarmed to get 98; right now, the smart ones are going with Win2000 if they need their Win32 fill.
"Ancillary does not mean you get to rule the world." --U.S. Circuit Judge Harry Edwards, speaking to the FCC's lawyer
3 Arrested In PlayStation 2 Robbery
Police from Montgomery County and the City of Rockville have arrested three young people suspected of wrestling away a new Sony PlayStation 2 from a 15-year-old. The computer game was released for sale just yesterday. Police say two 18-year-old men from Silver Spring and a 20-year-old Derwood woman were charged with robbery in the incident at the Best Buy store on Shady Grove Road in Rockville. One suspect is accused of pushing the youth to the ground, while a second grabbed the victim's backpack. Police later found two suspects near Shady Grove Road and I-270. They located the third suspect with the backpack and the game near the store.
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Powerful machine
A billion polygons
More fun than "Dig Dug"?
Hey dude, I'm black to but you need to let that shit go. I have black friends but most of them don't put stuff off or cut down white people. White people are still people. If you have sex with a white girl don't you get a mix kid? We are all human and I go to work and program speak ebonics off and on, but I still do my work and I can speak like a normaly every day person when I feel like it. Maybe your last employer don't like black people, they don't mind the rest of them don't too.
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I don't have any more time to be correcting the wrong thinking.
Suffice it to say, Amherst HAS a BA of COMPUTER SCIENCE. Many schools do. Computer Science is closely associated with MATHEMATICS, and undergraduate math degrees are usually BAs.
That's all I have to say about this. Don't go questioning my integrity or authority again, son.
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You sound like Mr. T
Never before has slashdot been so entertaining.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
I first wrote this in response to a comment I saw earlier of this nature, but I really can't resist the urge to do so again:
Slashdot implements 'everything' category
HOLLAND - Slashdot founder Rob Malda announced today his newest addition to the topics list, "everything". Malda stated that the new category was an answer to "the endless bunch of people whining about how they hate an extremely specific type of story that doesn't come up all that often normally, but has recently. Now they can just filter everything out." "It's wonderful," proclaimed one slashdot reader. "Now I don't have to put up with boring PSX2, CueCat, or CPHack stories! I don't have to listen to Jon Katz and I don't have to see duplicate stories; it's as though I'm not reading slashdot at all!" The reader was unavailable for comment after being informed he didn't have to read slashdot in the first place
-Denor
The color blue. It makes me think of a certain corporation that made Business Machines Internationally. And they were known for being Big on that the color too.
The whole topic is making me feel somewhat hued. Make I'll go listen to music that's colored this way too.
ok. just in case any of you are wondering if this guy actually was joking, the answer is no. take a look at his user info and his previous posts.
No offense bro, but if you're looking for racism, you'll find it in the mirror when you're brushing your teeth in the morning.
The fact of the matter is this. Slashdot is news for nerds, stuff that matters. Being that the PS2 is/was the most anticipated console release in the past 3 years, it's no wonder that there have been a plethora of posts about it. If minorities can't afford it...so what. Most uppity white people i know can't afford a PS2. It's mostly not a question of cash, it's a question of priorities.
Whatever, you're probably the old guy that yells at people in a Wendy's every time they throw away the really crunchy french fry cause "there are children starving in africa." Let me tell you this, Bub....i offered an Etheopian kid that crunchy fry, he told me to go fuck myself.
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After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
"It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -David Hume
The calming blue colour was chosen in the hopes of mellowing out all the Soccer Mom's that were expected to otherwise beat the crap out of each other while jockeying for position to buy "little Johny's" Christmas present from Santa.
I don't know about you people, but I have only seen ONE good console throughout my 23 years of living on this somewhat braindead world. The console in which I refer to is none other than the PC-Engine/Turbo Duo/Turbo Grafx 16. This system had so many high quality games on it, it's unreal, plus it was the first console to use CDs as a storage medium (and it used it well). Not only that, but it is the only console I know of that uses Anime in 98% of its games.
Screw the worthless PS2 and it's boring, redundant 3D worlds - I'm sick and tired of people mixing a bunch of polygons together and calling it a 'game'. Obviously, all the true programmers and the people with the real talent all died in their sleep long ago.
Long live the PC-Engine - the best console ever made!
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Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
actually it would just force businesses to try to raise the minimum wage. but i agree from you when it comes down to it. i don't believe all this bill of rights and constitution bullshit. all i care about is getting mine. why should i care about people that live 100 years from now? all it would take is one 'anti-environment' president and congress anyway, so why shouldn't we just take advantage of it now? and why should people have 'rights'? if not even have of them voice their opinions, anyway, why should the rest of the country be 'watchdogs' for them?
What do people think of the PS9 commercials? (yes, 9 as in nine).
What a vision of the future!
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It would be called Quickies.
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Yes, there are other "African American" readers on this site that hold steady jobs. Infact, at times with affirmitive action it's easier for us to be placed in jobs becasue of our race. Don't blame "caucasions" for shit from years ago.
*sigh*
If your a troll, that's a lot of intellegence you have that could be shooting twoards better things...
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'nuff said.
I'm guessing you don't consider this racism? Or is it OK to use derogatory terms on white people just because they're a majority?
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I wouldn't classify it as less evil. I'd just say that Sony's attempts to take over the world are more pathetic than Microsoft's.
If you are modding me down because you disagree with me, use the "Flamebait" category, not the "Troll" one.
To get around PS2's Parental Control, when asked for the 4-digit password, press the SELECT button then enter 7444 as the password. Hey presto, the old password is blown away.
(That's right from the manual.)
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Here is a link comparing Dreamcast and PSX2 from dudes who get paid to play videogames:
http://dreamcast.ign.com/news/27035.htm l.
Enough said.
Ok, here are my thoughts after my first 24 hours with the psx2:
Overall: way too much hype, don't pay a dollar over 300 for this system. It is a huge step up from the first playstation graphically, and a small step up from the dreamcast GRAPHICALLY, but the games just aren't there yet.
System: looks cool, I'll probably break the slide out tray sometime next week though. And why is the power button on the back?
I bought 5 games, go read reviews at ign.com if you want the details, overall they look good, football and hockey are fun with some problems, tekken eats ass...not even 3D fighting (3d characters on a rotating 2d plane)!!! boo namco. SSX is decent, and swing away golf is good arcade system golf. I'm sure better games are coming (at least I hope so)
I'm just waiting for Gran Turismo 3 and Metal Gear Solid. Until then I'm glad I have my Dreamcast.
If what you say is true..... then I still don't care.
he said he thought it was important to look through the Gnome source code to look for racism in the code itself (and not just in the comments, either... he wants to look for racist while loops
Change the l to a t and they are white loops. I think he's on to something.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
What are you talking about about my name, cracker?
Is he a hacker-cracker or a whitey-cracker, or do you actually think he is a lightly toasted food product? Inquiring minds want to know.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
Well said... I'd say the same thing had you not said it first.
just looked up the guy's feedback, looks like eBay's SafeHarbor got him.
does anyone else find it ironic that sony named the ps2 after one of the best selling computer models of all time? it just adds a bit more to the hype.
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Consoles suck, simple as that.
I might be interested in the iredema though. Be very interested if I can play them on my computer too.
How long is it before companies start employing people to go stand in the queues, so their staff can keep working, and still get their PS2.
Or maybe we should just go the whole way, and have console launch days as official holidays :)
The lot of African Americans in the United States may not be perfect, but the fact of the matter is that African Americans are still Americans and as such they enjoy a standard of living that most of the people on this planet can never even dream of achieving let alone enjoy.
If you want white people to give you money because some, I mean, SOME, white people kept slaves, then I propose that black people pay white people for the difference in standard of living enjoyed by blacks today in the US versus blacks today in Africa. I propose further that every descendent of every white union soldier that fought in the civil war should get a special bonus.
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Oh, I'm sorry, I thought this was the PS2 discussion board. I'll leave the "I'm an ingnorant asshole" room now. My deepest apologies
Since you brought up the topic of racism, would you care to elaborate on why you think giving people of a particular color will help them?
You're just a bitter bastard, who would rather dwell on a dismal past (which you haven't experienced yourself) than to look forward to the bright future. Please don't bring my American brothers down (that includes all Americans.) with your talks of things which I had nothing to do with.
Fuck you. You are the real reason racism exists in this country. If it wasn't small-minded, ignorant people like yourself, we would all be much better off.
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I agree, sometimes it's easier to get a job if you're a minority, and, being white, I don't mind. I know that this will be behind us in the near future (If people would let it go already.)
What's interesting is that based on what the parent post said, by being caucasion, you automatically assume responsibility for what was done in the past, even if you don't agree with it, even if you just moved here from, say, Canada! Yes, that is what we call racism (discrimination based on COLOR.) I find it extremely disturbing that someone would demand one who had nothing to do with the whole slavery bit, must give his hard-earned money to someone else, who doesn't deserve it.
Ridiculous.
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Do you really want to help better the positions of your African-American brothers and sisters? First, quit trying to tear down those of color who are successful! Any black person who actually accomplishes what you claim you want automatically gets labeled as an "Uncle Tom", "race traitor", "not black enough", etc. What derogatory terms apply just to whites who are successful? The black community in general complains about not achieving in society while at the same time spitting on any of their members that do achieve. Change this, and you've won over 75% of the battle--and that's not something that can be done by the white community. Yes, there's some attitudes problems in the white community, but fixing the attitude problem in the black community will be a major step to fixing the attitudes of the white community.
Second, take that chip off your shoulder. You're going around looking for a fight, attacking those who would be willing to help you except for your past attacks on them. I've never owned a slave, and as far as I know there are no slave owners in my family tree...I've never bothered to look. Even if there were, I wasn't really around to advise my great- great- great- great- great-grandfather on what to do, now, was I? If I'm the enemy in this, the only reason is because you want me to be.
If you are willing to work the problem from both sides to meet in the middle, I'm right there to work it with you. The vast majority of people are. But if you just want to sit and complain, attack the people who would be willing to help you, and demand that others provide the entire solution to the problem while you just sit back and wait, then screw you. If I'm going to get attacked for not helping, and also suffer the same attacks for helping, guess which one I'm going to do.
Well, that's my say. Yes, it's blunt, and a bit harsh in places. That's life; sometimes to work towards a solution to a problem you need to take a breath and state what you believe the problems to be, no matter what toes might get stepped on. You can ignore everything that I'm saying here and yell "racist" or "wolf" or whatever, and complain that I'm not fixing what you perceive as wrong in your life; I expect that, just more noise to ignore. But maybe--just maybe--I've not wasted my time typing this, and you'll start thinking about who you are fighting against, who you should be fighting against, who you need to help you reach your goals, and what is really the right way to convince them to help.
I am,
I am,
Fine