actually, you only really need arp spoofing, or rather poisoning. By sending spoofed arp reply packets you trick the target into thinking your computer is the router and vice versa. You can then forward the traffic between the two, so that it is totally transparent to them. It's the classical man-in-the-middle attack.
Switched networks are definitely not safe from sniffing, it just makes more "noise" to do so.
I live in Germany and I think my cell company really has the right ideas. O2 (the former Viag Interkom) is offering the so-called Homezone plan.
This means that whenever I am at home I have special conditions. "Being home" here depends on the density of the cell network in your area (sometimes the homezone has a radius of 2km).
The phone will have the common mobile prefix, which costs more, if you call that number. However, when I am in the homezone, I can also be reached under a local fixed-line number. When I'm on the road, calls to that number will be forwarded to voice mail for free or to the phone (but I will have to pay the transfer then).
You probably think this might be super-expensive. Let me just quote some prices from their site (all in Euro, but Euro:$ is almost 1:1 anyway atm):
I don't know how many of you are aware of this, but this Gravenreuth guy, the attorney, is one of the most hated men in the German IT scene. He has been going to court over cases like these for at least ten years.
I once got a letter from him: Back in the old Amiga days, i posted a classified ad somewhere, since i wanted to sell some of my old hardware. A couple of days later, I got a letter from some girl (including picture), who listed some of her games and wanted to trade.
Back then, I heard of these Gravenreuth tactics, so I just threw it away. Even writing some witty response on the illegality of the proposal would have probably invited some action from the law firm.
it was just my observation that you can find the same prefab suburban housing projects and shopping malls all over the states (to pick 2 examples of many)
not to mention the ever present semi-whitty male/female morning radio combo or sunday nfl games or mcdonalds or the belief that the oj simpson case decision was a historic day (overheard from a us history teacher)
also...i agree pineapple on a BBQ is just plain wrong! although, a couple of weeks back someone suprised me with a chili with pineapples...wasnt bad at all;)
but you made me hungry with your food descriptions *g
you gotta be kidding.
I've never seen such a large country as the US, that is more homogenized internally. I admit I have only experienced the center and the west coast up until now (5 months of east coast will follow next spring).
I would assume you have not yet travelled outside of the United States...
not only that...
the family situation would be more realistic like that:
Father killed during the civil war or by the taliban, mother raped and needing to beg since she is not allowed to work. 2 of the childred killed or maimed by landmines (have you ever seen a picture of a leg that was torn apart by a mine or a cluster bomblet?). One more close to dying of hunger....
Well, and now you are sitting with the remaining family in a refugee camp somewhere at the border, because yet another super power thinks it has to control your countries affairs. Maybe you even have a little tent...but forget about food or blankets...oh, did i mention that winter is approaching?
Now imagine that this were your family...who would you want to kill afterwards?
considering that the Bundeswehr (according to NATO plans) was supposed to be at the forefront of defense against the 7000+ warsaw pact tanks that could have invaded western europe, i would consider it a major military organization.
also, as one poster said (unfortunately modded down to 0) standing man power was 500000+ (now down to 280000 or so). mobilization levels within 3 months were 1000000+, i think.
in addition, it is a little known fact that the federal republic of germany has, in fact, nuclear weapons. Check out this article (babelfished).
There is a German Tornado strike bomber squadron that is assigned to carry American B61 nuclear bombs. Officially, these weapons are still under US control, but that is probably just a formality.
this is pretty common in germany (and the rest of europe, as well AFAIK)
here they call it "pre-paid" cards
pre-paid:
no monthly charges
higher per minute charges
you have to "recharge" your account
contract:
monthly charges
lower per minute
contract binding usually for 24 months
more services and features
in germany, all providers offer time metered access, while a couple also offer flat rate schemes.
This way, people can decide on their online behaviour
(low/free monthly charge, higher minute charge -> light users
higher monthly charge, low/free minute charge ->
power use)
i don't see what is bad about more consumer choice.
anyway, before telco liberalization we only had metered local calls.
i wonder what the prices for umts service are gonna be like
AFAIK Scientology is classified as a cult / sect here, and not as a religion. In fact, I think they are registered as a company. Furthermore, scientology is under observation by the internal intelligence agency (Verfassungsschutz) for allegations of plotting to overthrow the democratic system and for trying to infiltrate the government.
It was not the government decision to do this mp3 block thingy It is just something the recording industry would like to see implemented, but I personally doubt that it would ever clear legal hurdles (or be immediately overturned by the Bundesverfassungsgericht (=German Supreme Court))
i was at eml just last week and the people there told us that it doesnt work on scotch tape....just on tesa (which is a german brand) actually i read an article about this 1 or 2 years ago i'll be emailing this story, to the people in charge. i guess they will be better qualified to say something about the subject.
Slashdot Mirror
This sounds similar in concept if not execution to CardSpace (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/netframework/aa6 63320.aspx/).
Any thoughts on this?
Reminds me of this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7fmUJmw5RRk/
This is exactly how the truck toll system works in Germany. There has been some talk of expanding this to all streets and all vehicles in the future.
actually, you only really need arp spoofing, or rather poisoning. By sending spoofed arp reply packets you trick the target into thinking your computer is the router and vice versa. You can then forward the traffic between the two, so that it is totally transparent to them. It's the classical man-in-the-middle attack.
Switched networks are definitely not safe from sniffing, it just makes more "noise" to do so.
some disagree...
I live in Germany and I think my cell company really has the right ideas. O2 (the former Viag Interkom) is offering the so-called Homezone plan.
This means that whenever I am at home I have special conditions. "Being home" here depends on the density of the cell network in your area (sometimes the homezone has a radius of 2km).
The phone will have the common mobile prefix, which costs more, if you call that number. However, when I am in the homezone, I can also be reached under a local fixed-line number. When I'm on the road, calls to that number will be forwarded to voice mail for free or to the phone (but I will have to pay the transfer then). You probably think this might be super-expensive. Let me just quote some prices from their site (all in Euro, but Euro:$ is almost 1:1 anyway atm):
monthly fee: 12.95
local minute price (homezone): 0.03-0.05
long distance (homezone): 0.04-0.07
on the road minute price: 0.07-0.49
calls to other mobiles: 0.19-0.59
http://www.genion.de/genion/genion/genion__product s/genion__home/tarife/index.html
The ranges depend on time of day and week, as well as other options you choose (local, city, mobile)
Oh, and when I extended my contract for another 24 months, I only had to pay 200 Euro for a brand new SonyEricsson T68i.
Gravenreuth FAQ
In case you need the fish.
I don't know how many of you are aware of this, but this Gravenreuth guy, the attorney, is one of the most hated men in the German IT scene. He has been going to court over cases like these for at least ten years.
I once got a letter from him: Back in the old Amiga days, i posted a classified ad somewhere, since i wanted to sell some of my old hardware. A couple of days later, I got a letter from some girl (including picture), who listed some of her games and wanted to trade.
Back then, I heard of these Gravenreuth tactics, so I just threw it away. Even writing some witty response on the illegality of the proposal would have probably invited some action from the law firm.
hey, chill :)
;)
wasnt meant as an insult
it was just my observation that you can find the same prefab suburban housing projects and shopping malls all over the states (to pick 2 examples of many)
not to mention the ever present semi-whitty male/female morning radio combo or sunday nfl games or mcdonalds or the belief that the oj simpson case decision was a historic day (overheard from a us history teacher)
also...i agree pineapple on a BBQ is just plain wrong! although, a couple of weeks back someone suprised me with a chili with pineapples...wasnt bad at all
but you made me hungry with your food descriptions *g
you gotta be kidding.
I've never seen such a large country as the US, that is more homogenized internally. I admit I have only experienced the center and the west coast up until now (5 months of east coast will follow next spring).
I would assume you have not yet travelled outside of the United States...
not only that...
the family situation would be more realistic like that:
Father killed during the civil war or by the taliban, mother raped and needing to beg since she is not allowed to work. 2 of the childred killed or maimed by landmines (have you ever seen a picture of a leg that was torn apart by a mine or a cluster bomblet?). One more close to dying of hunger....
Well, and now you are sitting with the remaining family in a refugee camp somewhere at the border, because yet another super power thinks it has to control your countries affairs. Maybe you even have a little tent...but forget about food or blankets...oh, did i mention that winter is approaching?
Now imagine that this were your family...who would you want to kill afterwards?
"They didn't claim that the NSA is in Langley, Virginia. They said that the CIA is in Langley, Virginia." why was this modded down????
considering that the Bundeswehr (according to NATO plans) was supposed to be at the forefront of defense against the 7000+ warsaw pact tanks that could have invaded western europe, i would consider it a major military organization.
also, as one poster said (unfortunately modded down to 0) standing man power was 500000+ (now down to 280000 or so). mobilization levels within 3 months were 1000000+, i think.
in addition, it is a little known fact that the federal republic of germany has, in fact, nuclear weapons. Check out this article (babelfished).
There is a German Tornado strike bomber squadron that is assigned to carry American B61 nuclear bombs. Officially, these weapons are still under US control, but that is probably just a formality.
this is pretty common in germany (and the rest of europe, as well AFAIK) here they call it "pre-paid" cards pre-paid: no monthly charges higher per minute charges you have to "recharge" your account contract: monthly charges lower per minute contract binding usually for 24 months more services and features
in germany, all providers offer time metered access, while a couple also offer flat rate schemes. This way, people can decide on their online behaviour (low/free monthly charge, higher minute charge -> light users higher monthly charge, low/free minute charge -> power use) i don't see what is bad about more consumer choice. anyway, before telco liberalization we only had metered local calls. i wonder what the prices for umts service are gonna be like
AFAIK Scientology is classified as a cult / sect here, and not as a religion. In fact, I think they are registered as a company. Furthermore, scientology is under observation by the internal intelligence agency (Verfassungsschutz) for allegations of plotting to overthrow the democratic system and for trying to infiltrate the government.
It was not the government decision to do this mp3 block thingy It is just something the recording industry would like to see implemented, but I personally doubt that it would ever clear legal hurdles (or be immediately overturned by the Bundesverfassungsgericht (=German Supreme Court))
i was at eml just last week and the people there told us that it doesnt work on scotch tape....just on tesa (which is a german brand) actually i read an article about this 1 or 2 years ago i'll be emailing this story, to the people in charge. i guess they will be better qualified to say something about the subject.