Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition, in 32-bit, supports 32GB of memory. So no, I don't have a particular Linux app in mind and I didn't say a 64 bit OS was needed to be run on a 32bit system, which would be a little strange.
The only way to get anywhere close to 64GB is by going multi processor.
You need to append to the end of the above: "motherboard but only buy one CPU".
Let's face it, one CPU with memory in the range required is a teeny tiny niche market. Nearly everyone else wanting that much RAM is going to want more processors as well. There are plenty of decent 2-CPU motherboards that can handle 32GB; it's not like you need to buy a Superdome or somesuch, so the original poster's complaint about multiple CPUs adding a lot to the price isn't very legitimate, IMO. For example, here's a URL for some dual CPU boards that take up to 32GB and start at a lousy $243 on pricewatch: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/X eon800/
Yes it is worthless if you have no intention of ever selling it
I don't think you've really considered this. I don't intend to sell a family heirloom piece of furniture inherited from my Grandmother but if the house burns down, I'd expect the insurance company to shell out some cash for it. Do you think it's stupid to insure an heirloom I don't intend to sell? Is my Grandmother's furniture worthless? Under your reasoning, the insurance company will come back with "you didn't expect to sell it, so it isn't worth any money, tough". The same goes for the Vatican art, gold, and jewels. If I steal a bunch of it, do I only get charged with the mildest petty theft charge because it isn't worth anything? Last time I was there it sure looked like a lot of expensive surveillance equipment was watching out that none of their "worthless" art and jewelry was stolen. Spending even a penny to guard something worthless is a pretty lousy investment! If they were to insure it (they probably don't since it's all worthless, but just what-if), would they expect payment if it were damaged in a fire? Can their insurance company get off the hook since it wasn't intended for sale so it's worthless?
Allen noted that while people often assume a significant monetary value attached to the artwork the Vatican holds, it is not for sale... It is listed as having a cash value of one euro.
This is absurd. Just because it isn't for sale doesn't mean it's worthless. Just in Faberge Eggs the Vatican has hundreds of millions of USD in wealth. Then look at all the gold guilding on the inside of St Peter's; at $500 per ounce, it's not worth nothing. If an entity (the Vatican in this case, a commercial company in another) doesn't use normal accounting because it isn't required to doesn't mean that the numbers should be taken at face value. And there's a huge difference between "wealth" and "operating budget". One is a stockpile, the other is what you use. If there's a large difference between the two then it just means you're fiscally frugal. Good for them but don't tell me it means they're not sitting on a gigantic stockpile of wealth.
If you believe the Vatican has fairly little wealth, you probably also believe that no movie ever made by a Hollywood studio has ever turned a profit.
If you want a generic x86 CPU on which to run such things as virus scanning then it just needs to be able to keep up with the memory bus speed. It doesn't need to be a Pentium 4 at multiple Ghz. Imagine a Pentium 1 (or less) with non-locking read only access to all system memory and a little bit of its own scratch space memory. It could scan constantly and send a signal to a small routine on the main CPU to trigger a cleanup program or it could shut down the machine and reboot itself as the CPU using its own OS to run a cleaner on the main disks, etc.
This article is just begging for a slightly condecending comment about how computers are not yet plug-n-go appliances that the public should be allowed to own without training and/or licensing. But where to point the blame... consumers, most of whom don't know how to change their car's oil or other equvalent activities to computer preventive maintenance? Microsoft ( the slashdot favorite whipping boy) for making it easy to use a computer without knowing anything more than 'click the E for internet'? Dell, for making computers as cheap as appliances? Lawmakers, who think they can wave a legislative wand and make internet miscreants (spammers, bot networkers, spyware writers) behave?
Now that you've let the Bush Regime flush the Constitution and Bill of Rights down a whitehouse toilet
There are so many countries in which such statements about the ruling regime *would* get you disappeared one night because they don't have a well enforced Constitution, nevermind a Bill of Rights. And yet, you've posted all over the place in several much newer articles so we can safely assume that your fearmongering is invalid.
Consecutive CNN banners yesterday: John Kerry criticized the United States for not doing enough to promote democracy at home **CNN** Theresa Kerry announced a new $10 million grant to the Andy Warhol museum.
Yep, a US Senator critizes the USA as if it were a third party to himself while his wife gives millions to something that does nothing to help the problem he's complaining about. And people wanted him to be president??
The original did not cite the problem of correct vs incorrect facts; it addressed the problem of opinion vs fact and that's what I responded to. Where exactly did I ask for this rant about correct vs incorrect facts?
Depending upon which side you believe, the "fact" is either true or not true.
Exactly. Fact: Al Gore invented the internet. It's not a demonstrably *correct* fact, but as a statement about the world without a good/bad opinion qualifier, it's a fact.
This is the problem with *ALL* resources that are about facts. Which ones are correct and which are not? From the wild internet to Wikipedia to Jane's Publishing. Nevertheless, my point stands as a correct response to the original. The original did not cite the problem of correct vs incorrect facts; it addressed the problem of opinion vs fact and that's what I responded to. Where exactly did I ask for this rant about correct vs incorrect facts?
How is google supposed to survey the upteen billion pages, and decide what is subjective and what are the facts?
Well, opinions are statements about your state of mind while facts are statements about the world. Calling someone a moron is an opinion because it reflects your state of mind regarding that person and calling someone the holder of the office of president is a fact about the world. So you'd need a lexicon of opinion oriented words and then entries could be parsed for loaded language like "moron" in the "who is" category for example.
Why aren't we seeing 1 GHz+ fanless systems in the Mini-ITX form factor?
If you have a large enough heatsink made of sufficiently conductive material you can have any system fanless. just because you buy it with a wussy little heatsink that needs a fan shouldn't stop any decent geek from rigging up something better.
Where I live (Ontario if you must) sales tax is %15
15 percent use tax!?! That's huge! I thought it was bad here in Denver at 8.1 percent. What are your local laymakers thinking and, more importantly, what is the local electorate thinking voting these people into office?
Maybe Linus is a superstar but he is not a hardware engineer. How many other people, including hardware engineers does the company employ?
Gimme a break; this is just a fact and an honest question, not a troll. Mods: stop smoking crack, please.
PS - A quick stop to Yahoo Finance, company profile for TMTA, would have told you there were 296 employees at last count, and save you getting modded down by the misguided zealots.
Which is why I alwyas go car shopping wearing blue jeans and a t-shirt
To anyone who finances their car purchases: Several serious studies have shown that the more you look like money when car shopping, the better financing terms you get. They assume if you look poor, you must be an idiot when it comes to finance so they can stick you harder for interest rates and such.
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Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition, in 32-bit, supports 32GB of memory. So no, I don't have a particular Linux app in mind and I didn't say a 64 bit OS was needed to be run on a 32bit system, which would be a little strange.
The bill's supporters in Congress won passage of the prison terms by gluing them to an unrelated proposal
...drags us into an unjust war...
This is why the executive branch (at local as well as federal levels) needs a line item veto. Legislators are always pulling this nonsense.
And to think you were just complaining about unrelated line items.
the moderators have voted!
Maybe the moderators actually bothered to check that link.
As others here have said already
As others have not bothered to notice, the MB I linked wasn't an Opteron so don't tell me about needing two CPUs.
. So to get 32GB on a dual-capable board, you need 2 CPUs
The MB I linked is a Xeon. The original article only mentions 64-bit as an aside. The primary objective of the questioner is a heck of a lot of RAM.
So to all you yammering about the Opteron's on-chip memory controller: tell someone who mentions an Opteron MB.
The only way to get anywhere close to 64GB is by going multi processor.
X eon800/
You need to append to the end of the above: "motherboard but only buy one CPU".
Let's face it, one CPU with memory in the range required is a teeny tiny niche market. Nearly everyone else wanting that much RAM is going to want more processors as well. There are plenty of decent 2-CPU motherboards that can handle 32GB; it's not like you need to buy a Superdome or somesuch, so the original poster's complaint about multiple CPUs adding a lot to the price isn't very legitimate, IMO. For example, here's a URL for some dual CPU boards that take up to 32GB and start at a lousy $243 on pricewatch:
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/
Yes it is worthless if you have no intention of ever selling it
I don't think you've really considered this. I don't intend to sell a family heirloom piece of furniture inherited from my Grandmother but if the house burns down, I'd expect the insurance company to shell out some cash for it. Do you think it's stupid to insure an heirloom I don't intend to sell? Is my Grandmother's furniture worthless? Under your reasoning, the insurance company will come back with "you didn't expect to sell it, so it isn't worth any money, tough". The same goes for the Vatican art, gold, and jewels. If I steal a bunch of it, do I only get charged with the mildest petty theft charge because it isn't worth anything? Last time I was there it sure looked like a lot of expensive surveillance equipment was watching out that none of their "worthless" art and jewelry was stolen. Spending even a penny to guard something worthless is a pretty lousy investment! If they were to insure it (they probably don't since it's all worthless, but just what-if), would they expect payment if it were damaged in a fire? Can their insurance company get off the hook since it wasn't intended for sale so it's worthless?
Allen noted that while people often assume a significant monetary value attached to the artwork the Vatican holds, it is not for sale ... It is listed as having a cash value of one euro.
This is absurd. Just because it isn't for sale doesn't mean it's worthless. Just in Faberge Eggs the Vatican has hundreds of millions of USD in wealth. Then look at all the gold guilding on the inside of St Peter's; at $500 per ounce, it's not worth nothing. If an entity (the Vatican in this case, a commercial company in another) doesn't use normal accounting because it isn't required to doesn't mean that the numbers should be taken at face value. And there's a huge difference between "wealth" and "operating budget". One is a stockpile, the other is what you use. If there's a large difference between the two then it just means you're fiscally frugal. Good for them but don't tell me it means they're not sitting on a gigantic stockpile of wealth.
If you believe the Vatican has fairly little wealth, you probably also believe that no movie ever made by a Hollywood studio has ever turned a profit.
If you want a generic x86 CPU on which to run such things as virus scanning then it just needs to be able to keep up with the memory bus speed. It doesn't need to be a Pentium 4 at multiple Ghz. Imagine a Pentium 1 (or less) with non-locking read only access to all system memory and a little bit of its own scratch space memory. It could scan constantly and send a signal to a small routine on the main CPU to trigger a cleanup program or it could shut down the machine and reboot itself as the CPU using its own OS to run a cleaner on the main disks, etc.
This article is just begging for a slightly condecending comment about how computers are not yet plug-n-go appliances that the public should be allowed to own without training and/or licensing. But where to point the blame... consumers, most of whom don't know how to change their car's oil or other equvalent activities to computer preventive maintenance? Microsoft ( the slashdot favorite whipping boy) for making it easy to use a computer without knowing anything more than 'click the E for internet'? Dell, for making computers as cheap as appliances? Lawmakers, who think they can wave a legislative wand and make internet miscreants (spammers, bot networkers, spyware writers) behave?
Don't anthropomorphize computers; they don't like it.
because of some fancy cost-benefit analysis
It seems like you're saying that like it's a bad thing. Did you prefer the government try even less to get any value for your tax dollars?
How would they buy computers ?
Maybe with some of that money the Indian government is saving by building an aircraft carrier.
We can safely rule out 'A' since velocity can't be negative; any bicycle with just a bare jet engine strapped to it ain't goin' nowhere.
Now that you've let the Bush Regime flush the Constitution and Bill of Rights down a whitehouse toilet
There are so many countries in which such statements about the ruling regime *would* get you disappeared one night because they don't have a well enforced Constitution, nevermind a Bill of Rights. And yet, you've posted all over the place in several much newer articles so we can safely assume that your fearmongering is invalid.
Consecutive CNN banners yesterday: John Kerry criticized the United States for not doing enough to promote democracy at home **CNN** Theresa Kerry announced a new $10 million grant to the Andy Warhol museum.
Yep, a US Senator critizes the USA as if it were a third party to himself while his wife gives millions to something that does nothing to help the problem he's complaining about. And people wanted him to be president??
I'm just glad you're neither bitter nor disillusioned.
The original did not cite the problem of correct vs incorrect facts; it addressed the problem of opinion vs fact and that's what I responded to. Where exactly did I ask for this rant about correct vs incorrect facts?
Depending upon which side you believe, the "fact" is either true or not true.
Exactly. Fact: Al Gore invented the internet.
It's not a demonstrably *correct* fact, but as a statement about the world without a good/bad opinion qualifier, it's a fact.
This is the problem with *ALL* resources that are about facts. Which ones are correct and which are not? From the wild internet to Wikipedia to Jane's Publishing. Nevertheless, my point stands as a correct response to the original. The original did not cite the problem of correct vs incorrect facts; it addressed the problem of opinion vs fact and that's what I responded to. Where exactly did I ask for this rant about correct vs incorrect facts?
How is google supposed to survey the upteen billion pages, and decide what is subjective and what are the facts?
Well, opinions are statements about your state of mind while facts are statements about the world. Calling someone a moron is an opinion because it reflects your state of mind regarding that person and calling someone the holder of the office of president is a fact about the world. So you'd need a lexicon of opinion oriented words and then entries could be parsed for loaded language like "moron" in the "who is" category for example.
Why aren't we seeing 1 GHz+ fanless systems in the Mini-ITX form factor?
If you have a large enough heatsink made of sufficiently conductive material you can have any system fanless. just because you buy it with a wussy little heatsink that needs a fan shouldn't stop any decent geek from rigging up something better.
Even in a Montreal winter, I have a separate AC at the office that runs continuously just to keep the servers from overheating.
You've given me a flash of inspiration: Run a duct from the server out to your car. Keep the car ready to start and the server cooled!
lol
If you drive 15 miles to the office, plug in
I have to ask: Where do you work that there's sockets in the parking lot to plug in cars???
Where I live (Ontario if you must) sales tax is %15
15 percent use tax!?! That's huge! I thought it was bad here in Denver at 8.1 percent. What are your local laymakers thinking and, more importantly, what is the local electorate thinking voting these people into office?
Maybe Linus is a superstar but he is not a hardware engineer. How many other people, including hardware engineers does the company employ?
Gimme a break; this is just a fact and an honest question, not a troll. Mods: stop smoking crack, please.
PS - A quick stop to Yahoo Finance, company profile for TMTA, would have told you there were 296 employees at last count, and save you getting modded down by the misguided zealots.
Which is why I alwyas go car shopping wearing blue jeans and a t-shirt
To anyone who finances their car purchases: Several serious studies have shown that the more you look like money when car shopping, the better financing terms you get. They assume if you look poor, you must be an idiot when it comes to finance so they can stick you harder for interest rates and such.