user satisfaction for a free product? don't get me wrong, i personally don't like the idea of facebook. but face the facts: their purpose is to have many users, and they're getting more and more users. do these people with the survey provide any kind of insight into how their result means "people will leave facebook"? by default, such a website can't possibly be "liked", because it needs to satisfy your granma and your cousin with the PhD who's doing research into AI. nobody can really like it, they're just using it because they can't find anything better. and I think any facebook replacement will most likely be very facebook-like in everything except possibly the privacy stuff, because they'll be doing the same thing.
I submitted the story, and I made the pun. I thought it was funny... and in principle I think in the future aircraft of this kind could perform some functions that are currently performed by satelites. anyway, I don't know a lot about this stuff, so maybe it was a bad joke, sorry.
for me, as a physicist, it's fascinating that they were able to do it. the human brain is a great tool to test how "natural" various simulations are, and when you succeed in fooling it, it means your model is very close to reality in a certain way. in the study of complex phenomena, any ability to model is an important insight, because we don't have the math to understand what's happening just by using first principles.
as a sidenote, the problem of turbulence was well-known before the revolution of quantum and relativistic physics; still, Kolmogorov's scaling law (one of the most important results in turbulence) came in the 1940s. these problems are hard, and I will take my hat off to anyone who is able to cheaply reproduce aspects of nonlinear phenomena.
the church always said you should be wary of the demons trying to steal your soul with illusions of truth like science. only choir boys can truly lift your spirit to heaven. with their heavenly voices, offcourse. nice, calming voices. nice, soothing sounds...
If they can actually get astronauts down from "space" with no vehicle, that is cool. and it can probably help with efficiency (no worries about a return vehicle).
human spammers. when spambots are ineffective, you start paying people to spam for you (the chinese government does it for instance; also, I assume all parties do it before elections).
and yes, someone please mod "studyabroaduniversit" down, and delete their account too.
I really don't get it. why is facebook a big deal? I understand the companies that want facebook-like things to work: they want money. but the rest of the world? how does it make people better persons?
don't tell me it's easier to keep in touch with people you knew in highschool/college whatever. if you're doing it just because it's easy, it doesn't mean you actually need to do it, and it doesn't mean you care about those people more.
For me, the fact that there was a debate on teaching "Intelligent design" alongside evolution was a big sign that something was wrong with the US system. But, to tell you the truth, I don't think there's any plan. If there was, it would be the same in the EU, and it's not. If it does become the same, I'm moving to Africa. People there are too poor to be stupid.
you should read the article. I don't think their tests are bullshit, and they explain in detail what they understand by "creative". They also give a very good example of how to get kids to be creative --- a school where kids were asked to solve a problem, and they liked it.
And yes, limitations stimulate creativity. But not if you don't see the limitations. How can you expect kids who don't need to use their imagination to realize that learning can be much more than data retention?
And another fact: the same tests were given in the US and in the rest of the world. As I understand it from the article, the rest of the world did better. That means that the test is not completely ridiculous, because it sees a difference between specific sets of kids.
you're being silly. what they should do is sample as many species as possible, except for human. I wonder if the test will say "species unknown" or "many many animals".
or: human DNA combined with ape DNA. "well, to tell you the truth, I'm the first one in my family to go to college and walk fully upright".
mod parent insightful. this is exactly what this company is doing: test people for IQ, and hire or not hire based on IQ. the parent says that this is a stupid strategy, and he is right. If you are hiring people to do a specific job, you test their ability to do that specific job, and the IQ is not a good replacement.
and the danger is that the IQ might be turned into a general way of categorising people, when it doesn't actually say that much about a person.
and your point is? as I see it, Rinnon was saying there's no need for people to move around faster. I agree with you that it doesn't pay to use public transport versus walking, and my solution is to walk. by the way, I have some doubts about a subway train moving at 30 km an hour...
[...] how we are raised to be sedentary are bigger problems than not walking everywhere. [...] doesn't "not walking" mean sedentary? OK, so people have a job at an office where they sit around all day, instead of hunting and gathering. but still, on hour walking each day is a lot better than nothing. I don't get how people can pay to buy a machine for walking, but they still take the car to travel anywhere further than a 15 minute walk (maybe less).
actually, the problem is with the people oblivious to society. and you just said that "noone pays any attention to you". so I'm the guy obeying the rules ("sir/ms, could you please step aside" instead of "hey, idiot, read the sign and learn what's right and left"). people SHOULD care about other people, and they SHOULD try to obey various rules. that's society. not listening to rules is in fact the definition of anarchy.
It's ashame that you're forced to do this. Anyway... as long as you're here: is there any way of obtaining the data as the texture of a sphere? I know that in practice that's what it is, and I think watching it from inside a sphere would make much more sense. and it would be kind of cool.
Well, by "graduate level physics" Wischon understands "final preparation for research", while I understood "concepts that you don't hear about in school till you get your batchelor's degree". He was saying you can't do research without the math, and I was saying that you can understand a lot of the concepts without the math. Now we agree that we're both right.
well, there is a mistake in my definition of a complete space. and fritsd was modded funny for some reason.
i'm relatively new, so I assumed this was a "welcome to slashdot" kind of thing. there's also an AC that called me an asshole for this same post. something must be wrong with it.
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I don't think you realize it, but you just proved that you're more interested in people stuff than science.
besides... citation needed.
mod parent up. the whole "nuclear is evil" trend has to stop.
user satisfaction for a free product? don't get me wrong, i personally don't like the idea of facebook.
but face the facts: their purpose is to have many users, and they're getting more and more users.
do these people with the survey provide any kind of insight into how their result means "people will leave facebook"?
by default, such a website can't possibly be "liked", because it needs to satisfy your granma and your cousin with the PhD who's doing research into AI. nobody can really like it, they're just using it because they can't find anything better.
and I think any facebook replacement will most likely be very facebook-like in everything except possibly the privacy stuff, because they'll be doing the same thing.
I submitted the story, and I made the pun. I thought it was funny...
and in principle I think in the future aircraft of this kind could perform some functions that are currently performed by satelites.
anyway, I don't know a lot about this stuff, so maybe it was a bad joke, sorry.
for me, as a physicist, it's fascinating that they were able to do it. the human brain is a great tool to test how "natural" various simulations are, and when you succeed in fooling it, it means your model is very close to reality in a certain way.
in the study of complex phenomena, any ability to model is an important insight, because we don't have the math to understand what's happening just by using first principles.
as a sidenote, the problem of turbulence was well-known before the revolution of quantum and relativistic physics; still, Kolmogorov's scaling law (one of the most important results in turbulence) came in the 1940s. these problems are hard, and I will take my hat off to anyone who is able to cheaply reproduce aspects of nonlinear phenomena.
well, I like math, and I first had a girlfriend at 22. I wonder what would have happend if I did drugs...
the church always said you should be wary of the demons trying to steal your soul with illusions of truth like science. only choir boys can truly lift your spirit to heaven.
with their heavenly voices, offcourse.
nice, calming voices.
nice, soothing sounds...
thank you :)
If they can actually get astronauts down from "space" with no vehicle, that is cool.
and it can probably help with efficiency (no worries about a return vehicle).
human spammers. when spambots are ineffective, you start paying people to spam for you (the chinese government does it for instance; also, I assume all parties do it before elections).
and yes, someone please mod "studyabroaduniversit" down, and delete their account too.
and you should be appalled.
reminds me that a lot of people are living in fantasies completely cut off from reality.
I really don't get it. why is facebook a big deal? I understand the companies that want facebook-like things to work: they want money. but the rest of the world? how does it make people better persons?
don't tell me it's easier to keep in touch with people you knew in highschool/college whatever. if you're doing it just because it's easy, it doesn't mean you actually need to do it, and it doesn't mean you care about those people more.
one more thing to be said:
some time ago there was a great debate about a muslim teacher getting fired because she hid her face from her students.
why would anyone want to replace human teachers with robots? they can't even say it's because of the money.
For me, the fact that there was a debate on teaching "Intelligent design" alongside evolution was a big sign that something was wrong with the US system.
But, to tell you the truth, I don't think there's any plan. If there was, it would be the same in the EU, and it's not. If it does become the same, I'm moving to Africa. People there are too poor to be stupid.
you should read the article. I don't think their tests are bullshit, and they explain in detail what they understand by "creative". They also give a very good example of how to get kids to be creative --- a school where kids were asked to solve a problem, and they liked it.
And yes, limitations stimulate creativity. But not if you don't see the limitations. How can you expect kids who don't need to use their imagination to realize that learning can be much more than data retention?
And another fact: the same tests were given in the US and in the rest of the world. As I understand it from the article, the rest of the world did better. That means that the test is not completely ridiculous, because it sees a difference between specific sets of kids.
you're being silly.
what they should do is sample as many species as possible, except for human. I wonder if the test will say "species unknown" or "many many animals".
or: human DNA combined with ape DNA. "well, to tell you the truth, I'm the first one in my family to go to college and walk fully upright".
mod parent insightful.
this is exactly what this company is doing: test people for IQ, and hire or not hire based on IQ. the parent says that this is a stupid strategy, and he is right.
If you are hiring people to do a specific job, you test their ability to do that specific job, and the IQ is not a good replacement.
and the danger is that the IQ might be turned into a general way of categorising people, when it doesn't actually say that much about a person.
and your point is? as I see it, Rinnon was saying there's no need for people to move around faster.
I agree with you that it doesn't pay to use public transport versus walking, and my solution is to walk. by the way, I have some doubts about a subway train moving at 30 km an hour...
[...] how we are raised to be sedentary are bigger problems than not walking everywhere. [...]
doesn't "not walking" mean sedentary? OK, so people have a job at an office where they sit around all day, instead of hunting and gathering. but still, on hour walking each day is a lot better than nothing.
I don't get how people can pay to buy a machine for walking, but they still take the car to travel anywhere further than a 15 minute walk (maybe less).
actually, the problem is with the people oblivious to society. and you just said that "noone pays any attention to you". so I'm the guy obeying the rules ("sir/ms, could you please step aside" instead of "hey, idiot, read the sign and learn what's right and left").
people SHOULD care about other people, and they SHOULD try to obey various rules. that's society. not listening to rules is in fact the definition of anarchy.
It's ashame that you're forced to do this.
Anyway... as long as you're here: is there any way of obtaining the data as the texture of a sphere? I know that in practice that's what it is, and I think watching it from inside a sphere would make much more sense. and it would be kind of cool.
Maybe he was referring to Maxwell's distribution.
Well, by "graduate level physics" Wischon understands "final preparation for research", while I understood "concepts that you don't hear about in school till you get your batchelor's degree".
He was saying you can't do research without the math, and I was saying that you can understand a lot of the concepts without the math. Now we agree that we're both right.
well, there is a mistake in my definition of a complete space. and fritsd was modded funny for some reason.
i'm relatively new, so I assumed this was a "welcome to slashdot" kind of thing. there's also an AC that called me an asshole for this same post. something must be wrong with it.
you're right, of course. I was just trying to explain what a Cauchy sequence is, and I didn't do it properly...