Which is a shame if you're trying to keep an old system going for someone for simple web browsing. The AV can place the biggest RAM burden on a system with only 256MB RAM (more than the OS or browser). Of course slashdot's favorite answer is "Install Linux". But most full desktop distros like Ubuntu are too bloated for such old hardware as well.
There's two processes: The Front end GUI and the backend service (MsMpEng.exe) which usually consumes about 40MB, which is about average for AV products.
"Home Use Program" has been a long standing benefit of "Software Assurance" across the planet, at least back to Office 2007. Two fold: 1) It gives free training for users on their home computers of Office in general, and new office versions before it's rolled out on corporate machines 2) HUP licences are considered invalid if the company doesn't renew their SA agreement, so it encourages businesses to renew. And also lesser, it gives employers the ability to expect unpaid overtime at home.
At the theatre here (Canada) you can buy online and get a PDF to print and have scanned on the way in, or enter the CC / reference number in a terminal at the theatre, or have it sent to your smartphone, and have the screen scanned.
You might as well say that X% of newspaper articles are 'ignored' because they don't generate letters to the Editor about them.
I am NOT expressing any opinion on the subjective usefulness of the average tweet, however.
Interestingly, compared to the well composed letters to the editor, when the newspapers I read opened up online comments, I realized how stupid a lot of the readership is.
You want bloated an inefficient? Try Open Office. 30 seconds to load to a blank document, 75MB RAM consumption for the blank document. Twice as long as MSO to load a large document, with even more RAM gobbling power.
Am I the only one who finds it extremely unsettling that Apple plans to run a $1B facility with up to 50 people and *maybe* employ up to 250 more minimum wage people for security etc?
That's a trend that's not going to go away. Welcome to the information economy where people are in a surplus. How long until a $10B facility is managed by 2 people (excluding the ISS)?
Welcome to the Industrial revolution. Things that can be Automated are automated for the savings in manpower. Why should computers remain a labour intensive industry?
I liked IE but it is now a clusterfuck of bad design. The icons are tiny, illegible and poorly positioned... I'm sure it can be customized but why bother when there are other browsers that do it better by default.
My question is why in IE7 and 8 are there two "Tools" menus with different items? Makes phone instructions interesting. "Click tools. No not that one, the other tools."
My city (less than 500,000 people) still has plenty of small computer shops. And in my experience the selection and cost of individual components is better than the non-sale price of Big box stores. Still people to shoot the breeze with, and service people a lot more trust-worthy than Geek squad.
Big-box stores usually beat out on the cost of pre-built machines, but there's still a wealth of small shops with a wealth of knowledge.
I think it's ridiculous that you have to do such a workaround, none the less it's an option for people replacing drives, etc but are otherwise licensed (like yourself, having a qualifying version of XP for the upgrade).
Yes, it requires more hardware than XP. For example, most netbooks more than 2 years old would have problems (no seriously, it runs fine on my dad's 1GB, 1.6GHz Atom netbook).
Netbooks more than 2 years old would be small SSD models. Such as the original EeePC 4G: 512MB RAM, 4GB SSD. It's impossible to install a stock version of Vista or 7 on that drive. Which is why they coaxed cheap XP licences out of Microsoft by flirting with Linux. The moment they hit 1GB RAM / 160GB hard drive they had enough hardware to run Vista or Seven, but people were addicted to the cheap XP licences.
My EeePC 4G is upgraded to 2GB RAM, and it actually runs Windows 7 surprisingly well off a USB harddrive (particularly considering it's a USB hard drive). One downside is it has an Intel GMA 910 GPU, which is infamous for only having XPDM drivers, and not WDDM drivers which are required for Aero, and contributing greatly to "Vista Capable" lawsuites. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10097511-56.html
I've been satisfied with Windows 7 on a number of systems I have it on. A 3 year old HP laptop that shipped with Vista, that I downgraded to XP, and have since upgraded to 7. An AMD Neo based Netbook, even a PIV 2.6Ghz with a Geforce FX 5200.
5.25" drive yes. Though normally the reliability of floppies is such that they will all be unreadable anyways.
If I never have to deal with another floppy ever again my life will be complete. It's one computing relic I'm not at all nostalgic about. Not after thinking of the amount of lost data I've seen.
Why in this day and age do they still have ads and tv shows with dial up noise whenever a computer is supposed to be going online? I know, some people still have it in there homes, but why must it be on the TV?
More importantly, why didn't users set their modem volume to off. Then they can't complain about "Screechy modem noises"
I would look at how often they charge or don't their MP3 players or cell phones. As well worse come to worst, you can plug the iPad in at school. If every student has one, it should be easy to find a charger.
I'd just like to add for those readers not in the know that Android uses Apache licensing. They're not required to publish any modifications to Android, only to the kernel since it's GPL and not Apache.
I've always considered Android to be in violation of the GPL, because you can't create a product around a GPL component without making the whole GPL.
Amazing how popular and successful LAMP servers are which have Apache Licence Apache HTTPD running on GPL software.
As it is unless you have a supported graphics card, Adobe Flash will scribble videos in the 2D frame buffer. Full screen video? It goes into overdrive and revs the CPU to scribble that video while the GPU is twiddling its thumbs. Take the same FLV file, play it through VLC (or whatever) and not even using hardware decoding (eg: not h.264), but just the directX video scaling and the CPU sips power.
I think you can get XP on any computer. Just install a pirated copy. It will fail the Windows Genuine Advantage check (or whatever it's called). You will be given a phone number to call to fix the problem (ie, pay for a license).
To get Vista Enterprise you would need Software Assurance. If you're covered by Software Assurance you could upgrade to Windows 7 under the terms of SA.
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Which is a shame if you're trying to keep an old system going for someone for simple web browsing. The AV can place the biggest RAM burden on a system with only 256MB RAM (more than the OS or browser). Of course slashdot's favorite answer is "Install Linux". But most full desktop distros like Ubuntu are too bloated for such old hardware as well.
There's two processes: The Front end GUI and the backend service (MsMpEng.exe) which usually consumes about 40MB, which is about average for AV products.
There is an "Linux 'world domination' happening next week" on here almost every week. They all have the same bias and people jump on the bandwagon.
Week 43 is going to be the week of the Linux Desktop.
That's what I've always wondered when it's the active shutter glasses doing all the work.
I don't suggest Lotus Notes. Your employees will want to slit their wrists.
"Home Use Program" has been a long standing benefit of "Software Assurance" across the planet, at least back to Office 2007. Two fold: 1) It gives free training for users on their home computers of Office in general, and new office versions before it's rolled out on corporate machines 2) HUP licences are considered invalid if the company doesn't renew their SA agreement, so it encourages businesses to renew. And also lesser, it gives employers the ability to expect unpaid overtime at home.
At the theatre here (Canada) you can buy online and get a PDF to print and have scanned on the way in, or enter the CC / reference number in a terminal at the theatre, or have it sent to your smartphone, and have the screen scanned.
You might as well say that X% of newspaper articles are 'ignored' because they don't generate letters to the Editor about them.
I am NOT expressing any opinion on the subjective usefulness of the average tweet, however.
Interestingly, compared to the well composed letters to the editor, when the newspapers I read opened up online comments, I realized how stupid a lot of the readership is.
You want bloated an inefficient? Try Open Office. 30 seconds to load to a blank document, 75MB RAM consumption for the blank document. Twice as long as MSO to load a large document, with even more RAM gobbling power.
Am I the only one who finds it extremely unsettling that Apple plans to run a $1B facility with up to 50 people and *maybe* employ up to 250 more minimum wage people for security etc?
That's a trend that's not going to go away. Welcome to the information economy where people are in a surplus. How long until a $10B facility is managed by 2 people (excluding the ISS)?
Welcome to the Industrial revolution. Things that can be Automated are automated for the savings in manpower. Why should computers remain a labour intensive industry?
I liked IE but it is now a clusterfuck of bad design. The icons are tiny, illegible and poorly positioned... I'm sure it can be customized but why bother when there are other browsers that do it better by default.
My question is why in IE7 and 8 are there two "Tools" menus with different items? Makes phone instructions interesting. "Click tools. No not that one, the other tools."
My city (less than 500,000 people) still has plenty of small computer shops. And in my experience the selection and cost of individual components is better than the non-sale price of Big box stores. Still people to shoot the breeze with, and service people a lot more trust-worthy than Geek squad.
Big-box stores usually beat out on the cost of pre-built machines, but there's still a wealth of small shops with a wealth of knowledge.
Atoms clock poorly in performance / clock. The 1Ghz Athlon very well could be as fast as the Atom.
You can perform a clean install with an upgrade disc: http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/21142
I think it's ridiculous that you have to do such a workaround, none the less it's an option for people replacing drives, etc but are otherwise licensed (like yourself, having a qualifying version of XP for the upgrade).
There's a good deal for students looking for cheap Win7 licences. http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/21142
Yes, it requires more hardware than XP. For example, most netbooks more than 2 years old would have problems (no seriously, it runs fine on my dad's 1GB, 1.6GHz Atom netbook).
Netbooks more than 2 years old would be small SSD models. Such as the original EeePC 4G: 512MB RAM, 4GB SSD. It's impossible to install a stock version of Vista or 7 on that drive. Which is why they coaxed cheap XP licences out of Microsoft by flirting with Linux. The moment they hit 1GB RAM / 160GB hard drive they had enough hardware to run Vista or Seven, but people were addicted to the cheap XP licences.
My EeePC 4G is upgraded to 2GB RAM, and it actually runs Windows 7 surprisingly well off a USB harddrive (particularly considering it's a USB hard drive). One downside is it has an Intel GMA 910 GPU, which is infamous for only having XPDM drivers, and not WDDM drivers which are required for Aero, and contributing greatly to "Vista Capable" lawsuites. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10097511-56.html
I've been satisfied with Windows 7 on a number of systems I have it on. A 3 year old HP laptop that shipped with Vista, that I downgraded to XP, and have since upgraded to 7. An AMD Neo based Netbook, even a PIV 2.6Ghz with a Geforce FX 5200.
Did XP users have admin or poweruser privileges?
5.25" drive yes. Though normally the reliability of floppies is such that they will all be unreadable anyways.
If I never have to deal with another floppy ever again my life will be complete. It's one computing relic I'm not at all nostalgic about. Not after thinking of the amount of lost data I've seen.
Why in this day and age do they still have ads and tv shows with dial up noise whenever a computer is supposed to be going online? I know, some people still have it in there homes, but why must it be on the TV?
More importantly, why didn't users set their modem volume to off. Then they can't complain about "Screechy modem noises"
I would look at how often they charge or don't their MP3 players or cell phones. As well worse come to worst, you can plug the iPad in at school. If every student has one, it should be easy to find a charger.
I'd just like to add for those readers not in the know that Android uses Apache licensing. They're not required to publish any modifications to Android, only to the kernel since it's GPL and not Apache.
I've always considered Android to be in violation of the GPL, because you can't create a product around a GPL component without making the whole GPL.
Amazing how popular and successful LAMP servers are which have Apache Licence Apache HTTPD running on GPL software.
As it is unless you have a supported graphics card, Adobe Flash will scribble videos in the 2D frame buffer. Full screen video? It goes into overdrive and revs the CPU to scribble that video while the GPU is twiddling its thumbs. Take the same FLV file, play it through VLC (or whatever) and not even using hardware decoding (eg: not h.264), but just the directX video scaling and the CPU sips power.
I think you can get XP on any computer. Just install a pirated copy. It will fail the Windows Genuine Advantage check (or whatever it's called). You will be given a phone number to call to fix the problem (ie, pay for a license).
Or get a good pirated copy and it will pass WGA.
Vista? It's still alive... It came with many computer and many users are still using it.
Microsoft did however send flowers to the funeral for IE6 even though it's still supported. http://ie6funeral.com/
At work I do CAD on a Core 2 Duo with 4GB RAM .... and Windows XP.
To get Vista Enterprise you would need Software Assurance. If you're covered by Software Assurance you could upgrade to Windows 7 under the terms of SA.