I understand what you're saying here, but from everything we know (and we know a lot), the periodic table of elements is universal.
Some molecules (such as carbon or hydrogen) are simply so unique that they cannot be replaced by anything else. Nothing has the stability and bonding ability of carbon. Similar things were thought about phosphate groups. Unfortunately, we were wrong.
The long and short of it is that no matter how hard you try, you'll never have an organism without hydrogen or carbon because there is simply no substitute. Same goes for a LOT of other things. Sure, there will always be a lot of diversity and changes, but some things are simply universal.
We do have random, but it's random contained within limits set by chemistry and physics
still, it's not a very fair comparison. I haven't heard squat about Biden's stupid sayings or decisions. Meanwhile, just the other day, Palin requires at least ten minutes of discussion to realize that we aren't on North Korea's side.
... Now they are simply an anti-US organization.....
This has been brought up before. Claiming that something is "anti-US" is a weightless statement. Anti American is whatever politicians want it to be. It's whatever's convenient. There's no definition, no rules and no reasons for it... except for use as a crutch when all other arguments fail. Certainly, Wikileaks has done a lot of US based leaks, but that doesn't make them "anti-US". It's like saying that pizza hut is an italian resturant because it has pizza. Actually, that's not even a very good analogy because wikileaks itself doesn't leak the information. It recieves leaks, compiles them and publishes them online. Wikileaks is a primarily English website. Of course there's not going to be many foreign leaks, the managers don't speak every language in the world. It takes longer for foreign issues to surface. And of course you're not going to hear about them because you watch news from sources that are English. Go figure, your news reports on issues that are relevant to your country!
So the next time you go complaining that there's no big leaks about Russia or China, go to Russia and China, find some juicy details and send them to Wikileaks yourself.
You're not hearing about those because you don't speak the languages spoken in any of those countries. Wikileaks is a primarily English website. It's no surprise that you'll hear more about the US leaks on English news networks.
Not to mention that in China, your family would be incarcerated if you pulled a stunt like this. Not so much in the US.
No, my beef with "Anti American" is because it is implying that something is "wrong" simply because it is of an opposing view. "Anti-American" holds no weight. It is an empty statement. The mere act of criticism of American ideals, values and goals (if there are such things) is labeled "Anti-American". This goes against all logic that things this important _should_ be critically viewed and examined by the public to determine if our politicians actually are doing as good a job as they say they are.
If I may elaborate, I believe that this leak is morally wrong if it includes future plans and strategies that could be implemented in various situations, but the parts that are of past affairs should be known so that people can be held responsible for their mistakes.
That's why I added the parentheses. I inlcude room for the potential that war crimes were involved in anything included in this leak, but I'm not saying it's a fact.
So in this case, I'm referring to potential war crimes.
What part of espionage, secrecy and govenment spying isn't wrongdoing? Nontransparent governments may be legal, but in my opinion, it's still wrong.
Besides, apparently some of President Bush's activities are included. If he did any major wrongdoings in office, he should be made to face the consequences.
"lives at risk" "threaten global counterterrorism operations" and "jeopardize us relations" all sounds like politicianese for "we really fucked up and don't want anybody to know about it"
Whatever happened to justice against people who commit (war) crimes?
Is not a means but an end. "We are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites... [They believed] that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power."
long story short, the Prime Minister is the leader of the party that wins the most seats. Each seat represents a riding, or area. Anyone running for the position of Member of Parliament in their party can be voted for by their local riding. If you wanted to vote for the pirate party, but nobody in your riding is running as a member of the party, you can't vote for the pirate party. That may sound bad, but the system allows for a nice contingency plan...
If the Prime Minister screws up and loses the house's confidence that he's a good leader, he gets the boot and either another election is held or the current party can nominate a new leader from their Members of Parliament who each hold a seat and ask the house if that person has the house's confidence.
am I the only one severely disturbed by double standard of this article? Xray vans and upped security everywhere, yet as soon as facebook and google does this, it's suddenly bad.
Governments should adhere to their own standards, IMO
some of the discussion threads of such articles function exactly like forums. This troper doesn't believe a word of most of what is said in such discussion pages, but it thinks that TVTropes does have its unsavory bits. However, this troper also believes that Google's actions are an unjust and should be punished.
"Now, there's one thing you might have noticed I don't complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. Fuck Hope I don't vote. Two reasons. First of all it's meaningless; this country was bought and sold a long time ago. The shit they shovel around every 4 years *pfff* doesn't mean a fucking thing. Secondly, I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around – they say, 'If you don't vote, you have no right to complain', but where's the logic in that? If you vote and you elect dishonest, incompetent people into office who screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You caused the problem; you voted them in; you have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote, who in fact did not even leave the house on election day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every right to complain about the mess you created that I had nothing to do with.”
if we're talking about redefining the metric system, we might as well make gram = metre = litre of water (well, approximately) so we don't have to worry about all this x10^-2 shenanagains
actually, they have a circular calendar. Just that most people don't quite get the concept that once it reaches their "last" date, it just goes back to the first date and keeps going.
And the people who do get it are riddled with nutjobs that believe that a new age is upon us or something like that.
I could care less unless the heiroglyphics depict fire reaining down upon the world... they don't do they?
Slashdot Mirror
I understand what you're saying here, but from everything we know (and we know a lot), the periodic table of elements is universal.
Some molecules (such as carbon or hydrogen) are simply so unique that they cannot be replaced by anything else. Nothing has the stability and bonding ability of carbon.
Similar things were thought about phosphate groups. Unfortunately, we were wrong.
The long and short of it is that no matter how hard you try, you'll never have an organism without hydrogen or carbon because there is simply no substitute. Same goes for a LOT of other things.
Sure, there will always be a lot of diversity and changes, but some things are simply universal.
We do have random, but it's random contained within limits set by chemistry and physics
still, it's not a very fair comparison.
I haven't heard squat about Biden's stupid sayings or decisions. Meanwhile, just the other day, Palin requires at least ten minutes of discussion to realize that we aren't on North Korea's side.
This has been brought up before. Claiming that something is "anti-US" is a weightless statement.
Anti American is whatever politicians want it to be. It's whatever's convenient. There's no definition, no rules and no reasons for it... except for use as a crutch when all other arguments fail.
Certainly, Wikileaks has done a lot of US based leaks, but that doesn't make them "anti-US". It's like saying that pizza hut is an italian resturant because it has pizza.
Actually, that's not even a very good analogy because wikileaks itself doesn't leak the information. It recieves leaks, compiles them and publishes them online.
Wikileaks is a primarily English website. Of course there's not going to be many foreign leaks, the managers don't speak every language in the world. It takes longer for foreign issues to surface.
And of course you're not going to hear about them because you watch news from sources that are English. Go figure, your news reports on issues that are relevant to your country!
So the next time you go complaining that there's no big leaks about Russia or China, go to Russia and China, find some juicy details and send them to Wikileaks yourself.
That depends if I feel like being an idealist or a cynic today.
So both in practise. Thanks for bringing that up.
Suffice it to say that war is no longer fair.
At least give the other guy a chance to know he's being shot at.
You're not hearing about those because you don't speak the languages spoken in any of those countries.
Wikileaks is a primarily English website. It's no surprise that you'll hear more about the US leaks on English news networks.
Not to mention that in China, your family would be incarcerated if you pulled a stunt like this. Not so much in the US.
No, my beef with "Anti American" is because it is implying that something is "wrong" simply because it is of an opposing view.
"Anti-American" holds no weight. It is an empty statement.
The mere act of criticism of American ideals, values and goals (if there are such things) is labeled "Anti-American". This goes against all logic that things this important _should_ be critically viewed and examined by the public to determine if our politicians actually are doing as good a job as they say they are.
If I may elaborate, I believe that this leak is morally wrong if it includes future plans and strategies that could be implemented in various situations, but the parts that are of past affairs should be known so that people can be held responsible for their mistakes.
agreed, but it does get rid of the whole "what is it that you want from me" deal between ambassadors.
I simply think that people should be able to stand next to their beliefs and be willing to accept the consequences for their political actions.
That's why I added the parentheses. I inlcude room for the potential that war crimes were involved in anything included in this leak, but I'm not saying it's a fact.
So in this case, I'm referring to potential war crimes.
What part of espionage, secrecy and govenment spying isn't wrongdoing?
Nontransparent governments may be legal, but in my opinion, it's still wrong.
Besides, apparently some of President Bush's activities are included. If he did any major wrongdoings in office, he should be made to face the consequences.
Simply labeling something as "Anti American" won't get you any credit or support on the slashdot community.
I strongly suggest you find better arguments for your position.
"lives at risk" "threaten global counterterrorism operations" and "jeopardize us relations" all sounds like politicianese for "we really fucked up and don't want anybody to know about it"
Whatever happened to justice against people who commit (war) crimes?
Is not a means but an end.
"We are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites... [They believed] that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power."
long story short, the Prime Minister is the leader of the party that wins the most seats. Each seat represents a riding, or area. Anyone running for the position of Member of Parliament in their party can be voted for by their local riding.
If you wanted to vote for the pirate party, but nobody in your riding is running as a member of the party, you can't vote for the pirate party.
That may sound bad, but the system allows for a nice contingency plan...
If the Prime Minister screws up and loses the house's confidence that he's a good leader, he gets the boot and either another election is held or the current party can nominate a new leader from their Members of Parliament who each hold a seat and ask the house if that person has the house's confidence.
a simpler explanation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi1yhp-_x7A
am I the only one severely disturbed by double standard of this article?
Xray vans and upped security everywhere, yet as soon as facebook and google does this, it's suddenly bad.
Governments should adhere to their own standards, IMO
which is odd, because when I use my laptop, I keep my legs far apart, to give the vents on the bottom air.
If this were the case, people who wore tights in the renaissance wouldn't have been so prolific.
Same goes for skinny jeans.
some of the discussion threads of such articles function exactly like forums.
This troper doesn't believe a word of most of what is said in such discussion pages, but it thinks that TVTropes does have its unsavory bits. However, this troper also believes that Google's actions are an unjust and should be punished.
but if you get drafted, you could fight from the comfort of an air conditioned office instead of from inside a tank
"Now, there's one thing you might have noticed I don't complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. Fuck Hope
I don't vote. Two reasons. First of all it's meaningless; this country was bought and sold a long time ago. The shit they shovel around every 4 years *pfff* doesn't mean a fucking thing. Secondly, I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around – they say, 'If you don't vote, you have no right to complain', but where's the logic in that? If you vote and you elect dishonest, incompetent people into office who screw everything up, you are responsible for what they have done. You caused the problem; you voted them in; you have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote, who in fact did not even leave the house on election day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every right to complain about the mess you created that I had nothing to do with.”
-George Carlin
if we're talking about redefining the metric system, we might as well make gram = metre = litre of water (well, approximately) so we don't have to worry about all this x10^-2 shenanagains
if I were you, I'd hold onto them. apparently we'll run out of rare earth elements by 2017
http://news.slashdot.org/story/08/07/01/2331207/Supplies-of-Rare-Earth-Elements-Exhausted-By-2017
or not. I'm still waiting for us to run out of all this oil we've run out of.
actually, they have a circular calendar. Just that most people don't quite get the concept that once it reaches their "last" date, it just goes back to the first date and keeps going.
And the people who do get it are riddled with nutjobs that believe that a new age is upon us or something like that.
I could care less unless the heiroglyphics depict fire reaining down upon the world... they don't do they?
to be honest, it's probably not nearly as bad as it sounds. consider this chart.
http://nerdnirvana.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Lets-say-youre-the-first-human-ever-to-make-alien-contact.gif
Here's an easy way to test it:
Query = Mother 3