That depends on whether the economy lacks supply or whether it lacks demand. And bluntly, currently it lacks demand. Yes, there are local shortages, in the grand scheme, though, what we lack is demand. Not for a lack of wanting, but for a lack of being able to afford.
Our economy is heavily dependent on the tertiary sector. I.e. services. Services are great for an economy. Because it sells what's usually in supply in surplus: Work force. Unlike products from agriculture or industrial production, there is no need to sell any resources. You don't have to have large fields to plant crops, you need not raise lifestock, you don't have to dig up materials from the earth, you sell what you have in near limitless supply in most countries these days, the raw working ability of people.
This is by definition the best thing you can sell and the best contributor to your GDP. Because it's 100% renewable. You can't run out of workforce, at least by no means as easily as you can erode your soils and exhaust your natural resources.
It is also very sensitive to an economic downturn. Because it is also the expense that can be reduced easiest. You have to eat. You have to live in a home. You have to dress. But you can do without the hairdresser, the restaurant and the dripping faucet can drip another month without a plumber taking a look at it.
We are at our core, though, a service economy. And a service community. We have diversified to the point where people can do one thing, and one thing well, but aren't really good at most other things, where they would depend on others to provide that service for them. These people want to buy services, but cannot, lacking money. This in turn means that those providing those services cannot do so, lacking customers that would pay them.
In other words, I'm convinced such a basic income would be a boon for our economy. I don't expect the price hike for contested commodities, they might experience a small increase, but I'd rather expect a lot more demand for services, which are (comparably) cheap because they are easy to produce and easy to provide. If, and only if, there is someone who has the money to pay for them.
In the end, you will only get money the "old fashioned way" if someone else is willing to give you money for the goods and services you provide. Now, what goods or services can you provide that AI and robots don't?
It's interesting. In the US, people generally trust corporations rather than their government. In Europe on the other hand, it's exactly the opposite, people rather trust their governments than corporations.
I say we should take this as an opportunity to find out which system works better. Let's compare!
It's a bit like if the US went and shot a person in public vs. North Korea doing it. In the US it would be an outrage. In NK, well, we kinda expect that by now.
Same here. Domestic spying, privacy elimination, trying to establish a Fascist regime... that's something we had come to expect from the US, hearing this from Germany is so odd and unfathomable.
And governments as well as corporations abroad have even more.
You can now choose between pissing off about 5% of your market share or 95% of your market share when it comes out that you bent over and sold the 95% out to the 5%.
From every group of device that can be used for "evil", there has at least been one instance that could be modified in such a way that it benefits the one trying to abuse it. From computers to cellphones to tablets to cars.
So if the Mercedes and the iPhone cannot be broken, terrorists are going to drive a Skoda and communicate with Samsung.
Actually he does understand English. But even if not, he should have the personnel to translate it for him. He outsourced so many parts of his brain that it's actually a feat that he still can stumble from blunder to blunder, one should assume that they already somehow manage to keep him from moving at all.
You also have to take into account that while Germany is a sizable market, it's by no means a market big enough to warrant pissing off the rest of the world and losing market shares to competitors sane enough to not build backdoored-by-design devices that no government or company would buy. So whatever backdoor they would build for Germany would be at best some tacked-on solution that is just enough to comply with whatever the law says. It would most certainly not be any hardware differences that would basically mean building some Germany-only devices but instead be a German firmware.
This won't survive the first security researcher looking at such a device with a passing glance.
The whole shit flies out the window the second the device gets rooted. And you can rest assured that this is the first thing anyone with nefarious intent will do. Make it illegal? Fuck, do people planning to blow themselves to kingdom come give half a shit about a law concerning their phone? What do you want to do, arrest him? We're still talking about someone willing to blow himself up, to kill himself. You think he gives half a shit about your laws?
What you'd have to do is make rooting a phone illegal. On what grounds? Getting something like this past their constitutional court is highly unlikely. Twice so from a party that considers private property sacrosanct, he simply won't have the backing of the rest of his government for something like this, no matter how much he stomps his foot and mutters "but terrists!". But again, even if you make it illegal, nobody would give a shit.
I know what he wants. I also know that he cannot get it.
because my job. This one's free. First of all, I might eventually be affected by that bullshit if it spreads and second, it's always a pleasure belittling you and showing you just how big an idiot you really are.
First and foremost, there is no such thing as a "government only" backdoor. A backdoor is or is not. A backdoor that MUST be in EVERY device, independent of maker and the kind of device is by definition a high profile target for every hacker on this planet. Everyone wants to have that. That includes every state actor. I.e. other nations WILL want to have that backdoor. Now, of course you might share it with friends. It's unlikely that you want to share it with states like, say, North Korea or that Daesh idiots (that's ISIS for you, in case you didn't keep up with the news). Yes, Thomas, you're about to give terrorists a tool to invade German devices.
Way to go, aren't you supposedly at least kinda-sorta responsible for the internal security of the state?
How they get it you ask? Are you kidding? We're talking about the universal key to EVERY computer in your country. Every private, every corporate, every government system. You think a state actor (especially a rogue state actor) would shy away from kidnapping someone's family if he as much as MIGHT have access to the relevant keys? Here's your wife, Thomas, here is your kids. Hand over the keys and don't talk about it or, well, I spare you the details.
And even worse, you won't get what you want to get, Thomas. Because you don't think that anyone outside of Germany would as much as touch a device with a "German backdoor" installed, do you? Twice so if a state actor. No. Outside of Germany, you'll get secure devices (well, more or less... but at least not deliberately insecured ones). It is trivial, not only to me because that's what I do for a living, but to everyone with at least a minimum knowledge of IT to diff a "good" and one of your "bad" devices to see what's different between them. And what's different between them is your backdoor. It is now also trivial to patch such a security hole in a way that you'll be locked out again. And you can rest assured that every terrorist on the planet will make sure to plug that and lock you out.
Thomas. Again. Usually, I sell good advice. This one is actually free. Stop that idiocy before it costs you your job. I kinda like your party. Even though you're a grade A moron.
What exactly are you complaining about? The Americans think they live in the best of all worlds and couldn't imagine living in that European hellhole...
I wish more people on this planet thought like that!
The private sector can by definition not reach the same level of quality for the same price as a nationalized service can. Because they have to slap a profit on top of the cost.
To a private business, the product is the means to the end, the necessary evil to make a profit, while for the nationalized service, the product IS the end.
Then why is a private business more efficient? Well, it isn't. It just doesn't have the same goals and hence can easily be profitable.
Let's stay in the medical sector. The private businesses' goal is profit. So what do they do? Take everything that is profitable and simply cut the rest. And if liposuction is more profitable than saving the fingers of a worker so he can stay productive, someone's gotta learn to order five beer with only a finger left while Mrs. Flabby will find herself weigh a lot less.
Healthcare as a national service has a different goal. Here, the worker will get his 3 fingers back because while this means higher medical expenses, it also means lower unemployment expenses because he can stay employed. Mrs. Flabby will stay fat though.
And now you know why you have so few fit women in Britain.
Oh c'mon, do I really have to cite the parts of the bible where Jesus talks about him swords, turning families onto each other or where he curses towns because they weren't groveling enough for his miracles?
Distorting what truth? Sorry, but there is no truth in the bible. If you really want to tell me you saw snakes and donkeys talk and know of any people living more than 150 years, have any compelling evidence of a global flood (or that something like that was even possible), can point to any way the animals (or plants, if you're really in for a challenge) could not only congregate somewhere in the middle east from all over the globe and then spread back to where they came from without leaving ANY kind of trace for that...
well, then I wouldn't be pushing too hard on "truth" if I was you.
Again, I'd be surprised if it was only one. Moreover, there is no need to be the same person, things get merged together all the time. It's even likely that the stories the bible compiles about Jesus are stories that are older and about a different messiah or preacher, much like the OT lent stories from older sources, like the story about the flood or the story of Moses.
Crucifixion was hardly a rare kind of punishment in those days, the Romans really loved putting people onto crosses for some odd reason. It was a really gruesome kind of death and it did impress people to see people die like this (ya know, TV wasn't that big a thing back then, they didn't have much for entertainment...), it was a handy tool to convince people it's better to not question Roman authority. Did they crucify someone named Jesus? Almost certainly they did.
Another thing that was certainly not in short supply in those days were religious leaders, preaching and wandering, wandering and preaching. Whenever times were rough, and Roman occupation isn't really a picnic, there was never a shortage of people pointing to religion as the solution for everything. Was one of them crucified? Certainly. Was one of them named Jesus? Again, pretty much certainly.
How many televangelists do we have today by the name of Michael? How many of them are caught cheating on their wives? Was one of them named Michael? Who cares, it makes a good story and if I need a Michael, just conflate that guy with one of the cheaters. Nobody outside the televangelist circles will care, and if I am the only "official" one keeping record, what I record will be gospel.
Any Roman sources would probably not be in a good enough shape to actually pinpoint "the" Jesus. They would probably record that some self proclaimed messiah was crucified, whether they record the name of "some barbarian" is a different matter. And if they did, whether they gave a fuck that they recorded something as insignificant as this properly is yet another.
In the end, there were certainly a lot of Jesus', a lot of prophets and a lot of crucifixions, and if you really want to believe, you'll nearly certainly find a few intersections in these three groups.
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That depends on whether the economy lacks supply or whether it lacks demand. And bluntly, currently it lacks demand. Yes, there are local shortages, in the grand scheme, though, what we lack is demand. Not for a lack of wanting, but for a lack of being able to afford.
Our economy is heavily dependent on the tertiary sector. I.e. services. Services are great for an economy. Because it sells what's usually in supply in surplus: Work force. Unlike products from agriculture or industrial production, there is no need to sell any resources. You don't have to have large fields to plant crops, you need not raise lifestock, you don't have to dig up materials from the earth, you sell what you have in near limitless supply in most countries these days, the raw working ability of people.
This is by definition the best thing you can sell and the best contributor to your GDP. Because it's 100% renewable. You can't run out of workforce, at least by no means as easily as you can erode your soils and exhaust your natural resources.
It is also very sensitive to an economic downturn. Because it is also the expense that can be reduced easiest. You have to eat. You have to live in a home. You have to dress. But you can do without the hairdresser, the restaurant and the dripping faucet can drip another month without a plumber taking a look at it.
We are at our core, though, a service economy. And a service community. We have diversified to the point where people can do one thing, and one thing well, but aren't really good at most other things, where they would depend on others to provide that service for them. These people want to buy services, but cannot, lacking money. This in turn means that those providing those services cannot do so, lacking customers that would pay them.
In other words, I'm convinced such a basic income would be a boon for our economy. I don't expect the price hike for contested commodities, they might experience a small increase, but I'd rather expect a lot more demand for services, which are (comparably) cheap because they are easy to produce and easy to provide. If, and only if, there is someone who has the money to pay for them.
Like what, exactly?
In the end, you will only get money the "old fashioned way" if someone else is willing to give you money for the goods and services you provide. Now, what goods or services can you provide that AI and robots don't?
It's interesting. In the US, people generally trust corporations rather than their government. In Europe on the other hand, it's exactly the opposite, people rather trust their governments than corporations.
I say we should take this as an opportunity to find out which system works better. Let's compare!
It's a bit like if the US went and shot a person in public vs. North Korea doing it. In the US it would be an outrage. In NK, well, we kinda expect that by now.
Same here. Domestic spying, privacy elimination, trying to establish a Fascist regime... that's something we had come to expect from the US, hearing this from Germany is so odd and unfathomable.
Personally, I am not upset with what I have when I look at what the US is like.
Greetings, Europe.
P.S.: If you keep looking down for something to compare yourself to, you'll not improve. Look up to know what to aspire to.
And governments as well as corporations abroad have even more.
You can now choose between pissing off about 5% of your market share or 95% of your market share when it comes out that you bent over and sold the 95% out to the 5%.
OTOH a Chinese company has been blackballed on nonspecific assertions, just like a .ru AV firm. .
Maybe they didn't build backdoors into their products...
From every group of device that can be used for "evil", there has at least been one instance that could be modified in such a way that it benefits the one trying to abuse it. From computers to cellphones to tablets to cars.
So if the Mercedes and the iPhone cannot be broken, terrorists are going to drive a Skoda and communicate with Samsung.
Actually he does understand English. But even if not, he should have the personnel to translate it for him. He outsourced so many parts of his brain that it's actually a feat that he still can stumble from blunder to blunder, one should assume that they already somehow manage to keep him from moving at all.
You also have to take into account that while Germany is a sizable market, it's by no means a market big enough to warrant pissing off the rest of the world and losing market shares to competitors sane enough to not build backdoored-by-design devices that no government or company would buy. So whatever backdoor they would build for Germany would be at best some tacked-on solution that is just enough to comply with whatever the law says. It would most certainly not be any hardware differences that would basically mean building some Germany-only devices but instead be a German firmware.
This won't survive the first security researcher looking at such a device with a passing glance.
The whole shit flies out the window the second the device gets rooted. And you can rest assured that this is the first thing anyone with nefarious intent will do. Make it illegal? Fuck, do people planning to blow themselves to kingdom come give half a shit about a law concerning their phone? What do you want to do, arrest him? We're still talking about someone willing to blow himself up, to kill himself. You think he gives half a shit about your laws?
What you'd have to do is make rooting a phone illegal. On what grounds? Getting something like this past their constitutional court is highly unlikely. Twice so from a party that considers private property sacrosanct, he simply won't have the backing of the rest of his government for something like this, no matter how much he stomps his foot and mutters "but terrists!". But again, even if you make it illegal, nobody would give a shit.
I know what he wants. I also know that he cannot get it.
What kind of cheap excuse is this to deprive a barber of his income? Imagine everyone thought like this.
because my job. This one's free. First of all, I might eventually be affected by that bullshit if it spreads and second, it's always a pleasure belittling you and showing you just how big an idiot you really are.
First and foremost, there is no such thing as a "government only" backdoor. A backdoor is or is not. A backdoor that MUST be in EVERY device, independent of maker and the kind of device is by definition a high profile target for every hacker on this planet. Everyone wants to have that. That includes every state actor. I.e. other nations WILL want to have that backdoor. Now, of course you might share it with friends. It's unlikely that you want to share it with states like, say, North Korea or that Daesh idiots (that's ISIS for you, in case you didn't keep up with the news). Yes, Thomas, you're about to give terrorists a tool to invade German devices.
Way to go, aren't you supposedly at least kinda-sorta responsible for the internal security of the state?
How they get it you ask? Are you kidding? We're talking about the universal key to EVERY computer in your country. Every private, every corporate, every government system. You think a state actor (especially a rogue state actor) would shy away from kidnapping someone's family if he as much as MIGHT have access to the relevant keys? Here's your wife, Thomas, here is your kids. Hand over the keys and don't talk about it or, well, I spare you the details.
And even worse, you won't get what you want to get, Thomas. Because you don't think that anyone outside of Germany would as much as touch a device with a "German backdoor" installed, do you? Twice so if a state actor. No. Outside of Germany, you'll get secure devices (well, more or less... but at least not deliberately insecured ones). It is trivial, not only to me because that's what I do for a living, but to everyone with at least a minimum knowledge of IT to diff a "good" and one of your "bad" devices to see what's different between them. And what's different between them is your backdoor. It is now also trivial to patch such a security hole in a way that you'll be locked out again. And you can rest assured that every terrorist on the planet will make sure to plug that and lock you out.
Thomas. Again. Usually, I sell good advice. This one is actually free. Stop that idiocy before it costs you your job. I kinda like your party. Even though you're a grade A moron.
What? Are you nuts? Slaughter the goose laying the golden eggs? If you do that, they'll immediately realize how stupid they were and backpedal.
Hack everything else, far more lucrative and far less backlash. Jeeeesh, kids these days, can't even identify the correct hacking targets.
If only Erich Mielke could still be with us to see his dream come true...
If you pay me for my time, you will get my time and nothing else.
Well, it doesn't leave a bad taste in your mouth. And you needn't work your ass off.
What exactly are you complaining about? The Americans think they live in the best of all worlds and couldn't imagine living in that European hellhole...
I wish more people on this planet thought like that!
Find a better barber.
The private sector can by definition not reach the same level of quality for the same price as a nationalized service can. Because they have to slap a profit on top of the cost.
To a private business, the product is the means to the end, the necessary evil to make a profit, while for the nationalized service, the product IS the end.
Then why is a private business more efficient? Well, it isn't. It just doesn't have the same goals and hence can easily be profitable.
Let's stay in the medical sector. The private businesses' goal is profit. So what do they do? Take everything that is profitable and simply cut the rest. And if liposuction is more profitable than saving the fingers of a worker so he can stay productive, someone's gotta learn to order five beer with only a finger left while Mrs. Flabby will find herself weigh a lot less.
Healthcare as a national service has a different goal. Here, the worker will get his 3 fingers back because while this means higher medical expenses, it also means lower unemployment expenses because he can stay employed. Mrs. Flabby will stay fat though.
And now you know why you have so few fit women in Britain.
Yes, we have way fewer billionaires.
Granted, we also have way fewer working poor...
Oh c'mon, do I really have to cite the parts of the bible where Jesus talks about him swords, turning families onto each other or where he curses towns because they weren't groveling enough for his miracles?
Distorting what truth? Sorry, but there is no truth in the bible. If you really want to tell me you saw snakes and donkeys talk and know of any people living more than 150 years, have any compelling evidence of a global flood (or that something like that was even possible), can point to any way the animals (or plants, if you're really in for a challenge) could not only congregate somewhere in the middle east from all over the globe and then spread back to where they came from without leaving ANY kind of trace for that...
well, then I wouldn't be pushing too hard on "truth" if I was you.
Or honesty.
That's why you find hacking tutorials but watching someone hack a server for entertainment purposes is unheard of.
Again, I'd be surprised if it was only one. Moreover, there is no need to be the same person, things get merged together all the time. It's even likely that the stories the bible compiles about Jesus are stories that are older and about a different messiah or preacher, much like the OT lent stories from older sources, like the story about the flood or the story of Moses.
Crucifixion was hardly a rare kind of punishment in those days, the Romans really loved putting people onto crosses for some odd reason. It was a really gruesome kind of death and it did impress people to see people die like this (ya know, TV wasn't that big a thing back then, they didn't have much for entertainment...), it was a handy tool to convince people it's better to not question Roman authority. Did they crucify someone named Jesus? Almost certainly they did.
Another thing that was certainly not in short supply in those days were religious leaders, preaching and wandering, wandering and preaching. Whenever times were rough, and Roman occupation isn't really a picnic, there was never a shortage of people pointing to religion as the solution for everything. Was one of them crucified? Certainly. Was one of them named Jesus? Again, pretty much certainly.
How many televangelists do we have today by the name of Michael? How many of them are caught cheating on their wives? Was one of them named Michael? Who cares, it makes a good story and if I need a Michael, just conflate that guy with one of the cheaters. Nobody outside the televangelist circles will care, and if I am the only "official" one keeping record, what I record will be gospel.
Any Roman sources would probably not be in a good enough shape to actually pinpoint "the" Jesus. They would probably record that some self proclaimed messiah was crucified, whether they record the name of "some barbarian" is a different matter. And if they did, whether they gave a fuck that they recorded something as insignificant as this properly is yet another.
In the end, there were certainly a lot of Jesus', a lot of prophets and a lot of crucifixions, and if you really want to believe, you'll nearly certainly find a few intersections in these three groups.