Engineers? You really think it was engineers who made that decision? My money is on marketing or management. Let's toss them down some tall building and whoever hits the ground first is the culprit.
Neither will I, but then again, I consider them not even worth my time.
Dude, don't get me wrong, I'm 100% with you that the shit Hollywood craps onto the silver screen is garbage. But why even copy it? What did those electrons do to you that you force them to transport that garbage?
YouTube has lately started to crack down on certain content creators that were deemed "offensive" by certain other content creators. Without going into detail because I could really do without yet another "he said - she said" fight, and without even giving a shit whether that's a good thing or not: It was something that some people apparently wanted to see, and they're now going elsewhere to see it.
That's the beauty about the first amendment. Yes, you may speak your mind. No, you have no right to demand from me that I offer you a platform. But I, in turn, have no right to complain if you go and find another platform and take your audience with you.
I really don't remember what it was, it was a column style I haven't heard before which is why I took a look, curious how it would differ from the others (since I just learned that moment that there are actually many different styles through the times and between the various city states). I also don't remember what language it was now, whether it was English, French, German or Italian (speaking multiple languages on a similar level leads to not remembering what language you read something in), which sure doesn't make it easier to find the article again.
Next time something like this happens I might actually try the talk page, if only to ask whether buttsex is an important aspect of the column style and relevant enough to the understanding of the artistic value of the ornamentation to reinstate it
Sorry, it was not important enough for me to go through a lengthy discussion about how buttsex is probably not a relevant issue for column ornamentation. If that's what they want, buttsex is what they get.
I am not a big Wikipedia contributor. But an avid reader. It's fun to spend a few hours reading and eventually wondering "now how the fuck did I end up here?". Same happened recently when I ended up on the page about a certain style of the top ornament of certain Greek pillars. Probably not the page too many people will go to, and certainly the pet project of someone since, let's be honest here, who the fuck gives a shit about the style of Greek column top ornamentation in a certain period in a certain area of the classic Greek times?
Now, this page had been vandalized and, being as popular as it is with probably 2 hits per decade, had not been spotted yet. Somewhere inside the 3-4 screens worth of wall of text, it informed in no uncertain terms about the sexual preferences of some gentleman that I never heard about but now know a lot about his favorite bedtime pastimes. Considering this at least slightly off topic for Greek columns (ok, not completely, to be honest, but still... probably not too appropriate at least) I dared to do the unspeakable: Revert a vandalism attempt. Marked it as such and went on, merrily thinking I finally gave something back to the community that provided me with many hours, if not months, of enjoyment, entertainment and information.
I returned there a day later, mostly for egosurfing to be honest, and to pat myself on the shoulder, only to find it vandalized again. Actually, my revert had been reverted. To make a long story short, after another revert of mine, and the ensuing revert of my revert, I was informed that I should please refrain from "edit warring" and that I better leave the article alone now if I value my account.
So I have concluded that it is highly relevant for the understanding of Greek column design that a certain person in Maine is really into buttsex.
The difference is that nothing that comes out of Hollywood will any time soon be available to you. Did Hollywood create awesome effects? Sure. Are they available to the hobbyist and end user? Hardly.
Yes, scientific needs also drives development of solutions for those scientific purposes, but they do not enter a mass market. That only happens when there is a demand for this. Yes, SGI created incredible graphics machines long before the advent of 3D accelerator cards, but those cards only became a thing once there was a market for them, once there were gamers who demanded them and games that supported them. Without games, SGI (or some successor) would probably today create machines that cost a million dollars that create graphics on par with what a 1080 GTX can produce, simply due to the laws of market.
Hardware, like pretty much anything in the area of computing, is a business with an insane fixed cost and very low to negligible per unit costs. Being able to sell twice the number of units pretty much halves the costs per unit.
Well, yes and no, and actually, the studios start cutting back on the cutscenes by now, because they noticed that they piss off the players more than they enhance the story. Don't get me wrong, watching a cool, action packed short scene can be great, but playing a game over from the start and having to sit through 10 minutes of unskipable intro footage is about as popular as an unskipable DVD intro.
Studios have noticed that by now, especially now that reviewers and bloggers have come to put a focus on such things, too. Because they are annoying.
Gaming is for computing what porn is for video: The driving force for development.
Face it, what "sensible" application needs stronger and stronger CPUs and GPUs? Cryptography, yes. Visual design, ok. And now something that could actually drive such development because there is a mass market for it. Well? What office PC needs a CPU/GPU that can do a fantastic amount of calculations per second?
You might have no use for gaming, that's ok. I do. I am in the area of cryptography research, and believe me, I love those faster and faster GPUs that make more and more statistical attacks feasible. Yes, those people wasting their time shooting flashy pixels in their spare time help drive my field.
And I want to thank you for that. If you didn't buy graphics cards that cost 500+ bucks, they would cost about 10,000 bucks, if they were available at all, and I could probably not do what I'm doing today.
You can be any kind of artist you want to be, but on the payroll, you will produce what the one paying your wage wants you to produce. It is that simple. EA, UBIsoft and the likes doesn't give a shit about "artistic value" or telling a compelling story beyond what sells. If that's muscle-bound tanks, that's what they produce. If it's the thoughtful discussion of gender issues, that's what they'll produce.
What matters is simply what can be sold to as big an audience as possible. At least when talking about AAA titles. You will find all sorts of games from Indie developers that do actually care about the artistic value and the message of their games, and there are a lot of very good, very thoughtful and very thought provoking titles out there, but you will not find them in the portfolio of AAA studios. There you'll find the n-th sequel of the same old, tried formula.
Japan doesn't give half a shit about what some loudmouth in the US does or says. The Japanese market is huge and most Japanese game companies see any market outside of Japan and maybe Korea as something that's nice to have but certainly nothing to bend over backwards for, especially if that would alienate domestic gamers.
Losing the US market would be devastating for, say, MS, but for Sony? Hardly. And I doubt even MS would be stupid enough to give in to the demands of people who are not their customers. Because if they did, the only thing that is certain is that the XBox would quickly fade into insignificance.
Studios will produce what they think will sell. It is that simple. The whole gender issue is now a thing, so they'll try to see if it sells more games. If it does, great, they'll continue with it. If it doesn't, they'll put the lid on it again.
Game studios are a business. They will sell what people want to buy. They don't care about any "message"; what they care about is making a buck.
Jack Thompson had exactly zero impact outside of the US. Why does everyone over there think the world only revolves around them? Nobody even knew about him and the only game studios that even considered him in any way relevant were studios whose core market was the US. And those studios quickly lost ground, too.
I doubt studios will make the same mistake again after they learned that nobody outside the US gave half a shit about Thompson's rants, and that people buying games inside the US didn't either.
Because at the end of the day, that is what matters to the studios: Selling their games. And quite frankly, if wiggling boobs sell games, that's what they will produce, if crafting stories around gender issues sell games, that's what they'll produce. They don't really care. What they care about is what sells their games.
Ok, can you find any examples outside the lalaland the US turned into? Because, well, anything works in the fairy tale world over there, it seems, that people out here in the real world don't give a shit about either. I mean, look at Creationism.
Advertising works if people at least have some kind of interest in something. No matter how much you advertise your tampons to me, you will never have a customer in me. Unless I need to start a fire in a rain, those things are great for that.
But another thing matters: Advertising is something someone does who wants to sell me something. And if vendor and buyer agree that they don't give a shit about your crap, you can "advertise" until you're blue in the face and you won't have any kind of impact on the deal.
Just look at the whole "the sky is falling" bull around violent video games and how they're the root of all evil and the cause for all school revenges, sorry, killing sprees. And? Does that mean that FPS don't get made anymore?
Please. Let them rant, as long as they do they at least don't harm anyone.
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Wait 'til they find out that the most searched term with Cortana is "Now how the fuck do I turn this bullshit off?"
So at least the good news is that they die young.
It was bad enough when they outsourced the support to India, but here you can see what happens when you outsource management.
Engineers? You really think it was engineers who made that decision? My money is on marketing or management. Let's toss them down some tall building and whoever hits the ground first is the culprit.
What? I wouldn't download the junk Hollywood pumps out, but a car? Are you joking, OF COURSE I would download a car!
I could use a car, unlike the waste of time movies have become this would actually help me save time!
Neither will I, but then again, I consider them not even worth my time.
Dude, don't get me wrong, I'm 100% with you that the shit Hollywood craps onto the silver screen is garbage. But why even copy it? What did those electrons do to you that you force them to transport that garbage?
YouTube has lately started to crack down on certain content creators that were deemed "offensive" by certain other content creators. Without going into detail because I could really do without yet another "he said - she said" fight, and without even giving a shit whether that's a good thing or not: It was something that some people apparently wanted to see, and they're now going elsewhere to see it.
That's the beauty about the first amendment. Yes, you may speak your mind. No, you have no right to demand from me that I offer you a platform. But I, in turn, have no right to complain if you go and find another platform and take your audience with you.
I really don't remember what it was, it was a column style I haven't heard before which is why I took a look, curious how it would differ from the others (since I just learned that moment that there are actually many different styles through the times and between the various city states). I also don't remember what language it was now, whether it was English, French, German or Italian (speaking multiple languages on a similar level leads to not remembering what language you read something in), which sure doesn't make it easier to find the article again.
Next time something like this happens I might actually try the talk page, if only to ask whether buttsex is an important aspect of the column style and relevant enough to the understanding of the artistic value of the ornamentation to reinstate it
Sorry, it was not important enough for me to go through a lengthy discussion about how buttsex is probably not a relevant issue for column ornamentation. If that's what they want, buttsex is what they get.
It's worse than that.
I am not a big Wikipedia contributor. But an avid reader. It's fun to spend a few hours reading and eventually wondering "now how the fuck did I end up here?". Same happened recently when I ended up on the page about a certain style of the top ornament of certain Greek pillars. Probably not the page too many people will go to, and certainly the pet project of someone since, let's be honest here, who the fuck gives a shit about the style of Greek column top ornamentation in a certain period in a certain area of the classic Greek times?
Now, this page had been vandalized and, being as popular as it is with probably 2 hits per decade, had not been spotted yet. Somewhere inside the 3-4 screens worth of wall of text, it informed in no uncertain terms about the sexual preferences of some gentleman that I never heard about but now know a lot about his favorite bedtime pastimes. Considering this at least slightly off topic for Greek columns (ok, not completely, to be honest, but still... probably not too appropriate at least) I dared to do the unspeakable: Revert a vandalism attempt. Marked it as such and went on, merrily thinking I finally gave something back to the community that provided me with many hours, if not months, of enjoyment, entertainment and information.
I returned there a day later, mostly for egosurfing to be honest, and to pat myself on the shoulder, only to find it vandalized again. Actually, my revert had been reverted. To make a long story short, after another revert of mine, and the ensuing revert of my revert, I was informed that I should please refrain from "edit warring" and that I better leave the article alone now if I value my account.
So I have concluded that it is highly relevant for the understanding of Greek column design that a certain person in Maine is really into buttsex.
The difference is that nothing that comes out of Hollywood will any time soon be available to you. Did Hollywood create awesome effects? Sure. Are they available to the hobbyist and end user? Hardly.
Yes, scientific needs also drives development of solutions for those scientific purposes, but they do not enter a mass market. That only happens when there is a demand for this. Yes, SGI created incredible graphics machines long before the advent of 3D accelerator cards, but those cards only became a thing once there was a market for them, once there were gamers who demanded them and games that supported them. Without games, SGI (or some successor) would probably today create machines that cost a million dollars that create graphics on par with what a 1080 GTX can produce, simply due to the laws of market.
Hardware, like pretty much anything in the area of computing, is a business with an insane fixed cost and very low to negligible per unit costs. Being able to sell twice the number of units pretty much halves the costs per unit.
Well, yes and no, and actually, the studios start cutting back on the cutscenes by now, because they noticed that they piss off the players more than they enhance the story. Don't get me wrong, watching a cool, action packed short scene can be great, but playing a game over from the start and having to sit through 10 minutes of unskipable intro footage is about as popular as an unskipable DVD intro.
Studios have noticed that by now, especially now that reviewers and bloggers have come to put a focus on such things, too. Because they are annoying.
What's a "legitimate hobby"?
If I wanted to insult CoD I'd not go for the cutscenes but rather for people being stupid enough to buy the same game over and over and over.
Gaming is for computing what porn is for video: The driving force for development.
Face it, what "sensible" application needs stronger and stronger CPUs and GPUs? Cryptography, yes. Visual design, ok. And now something that could actually drive such development because there is a mass market for it. Well? What office PC needs a CPU/GPU that can do a fantastic amount of calculations per second?
You might have no use for gaming, that's ok. I do. I am in the area of cryptography research, and believe me, I love those faster and faster GPUs that make more and more statistical attacks feasible. Yes, those people wasting their time shooting flashy pixels in their spare time help drive my field.
And I want to thank you for that. If you didn't buy graphics cards that cost 500+ bucks, they would cost about 10,000 bucks, if they were available at all, and I could probably not do what I'm doing today.
You can be any kind of artist you want to be, but on the payroll, you will produce what the one paying your wage wants you to produce. It is that simple. EA, UBIsoft and the likes doesn't give a shit about "artistic value" or telling a compelling story beyond what sells. If that's muscle-bound tanks, that's what they produce. If it's the thoughtful discussion of gender issues, that's what they'll produce.
What matters is simply what can be sold to as big an audience as possible. At least when talking about AAA titles. You will find all sorts of games from Indie developers that do actually care about the artistic value and the message of their games, and there are a lot of very good, very thoughtful and very thought provoking titles out there, but you will not find them in the portfolio of AAA studios. There you'll find the n-th sequel of the same old, tried formula.
Japan doesn't give half a shit about what some loudmouth in the US does or says. The Japanese market is huge and most Japanese game companies see any market outside of Japan and maybe Korea as something that's nice to have but certainly nothing to bend over backwards for, especially if that would alienate domestic gamers.
Losing the US market would be devastating for, say, MS, but for Sony? Hardly. And I doubt even MS would be stupid enough to give in to the demands of people who are not their customers. Because if they did, the only thing that is certain is that the XBox would quickly fade into insignificance.
Yes, they have the right to speak.
But they have no right to force you to listen.
So why do you?
Studios will produce what they think will sell. It is that simple. The whole gender issue is now a thing, so they'll try to see if it sells more games. If it does, great, they'll continue with it. If it doesn't, they'll put the lid on it again.
Game studios are a business. They will sell what people want to buy. They don't care about any "message"; what they care about is making a buck.
Jack Thompson had exactly zero impact outside of the US. Why does everyone over there think the world only revolves around them? Nobody even knew about him and the only game studios that even considered him in any way relevant were studios whose core market was the US. And those studios quickly lost ground, too.
I doubt studios will make the same mistake again after they learned that nobody outside the US gave half a shit about Thompson's rants, and that people buying games inside the US didn't either.
Because at the end of the day, that is what matters to the studios: Selling their games. And quite frankly, if wiggling boobs sell games, that's what they will produce, if crafting stories around gender issues sell games, that's what they'll produce. They don't really care. What they care about is what sells their games.
Ok, can you find any examples outside the lalaland the US turned into? Because, well, anything works in the fairy tale world over there, it seems, that people out here in the real world don't give a shit about either. I mean, look at Creationism.
Advertising works if people at least have some kind of interest in something. No matter how much you advertise your tampons to me, you will never have a customer in me. Unless I need to start a fire in a rain, those things are great for that.
But another thing matters: Advertising is something someone does who wants to sell me something. And if vendor and buyer agree that they don't give a shit about your crap, you can "advertise" until you're blue in the face and you won't have any kind of impact on the deal.
But Florida is the US retirement home. And its wang.
And who gives a shit about their opinion?
Just look at the whole "the sky is falling" bull around violent video games and how they're the root of all evil and the cause for all school revenges, sorry, killing sprees. And? Does that mean that FPS don't get made anymore?
Please. Let them rant, as long as they do they at least don't harm anyone.
Funny, others would say it's a body disorder.