It's "obvious" in much the same way that other false things have been "obvious" over the years on Slashdot.
You're confusing psychic "knowledge" with psychotic conflating an emotional investment in their own "gut instincts" "confirmed" by a cherry-picked version of reality and calling it "obvious". A common mistake I blame on education and logical deduction.
My intiution is that psychic ability is, um, bullshit....
That's all I've got, for the life of me I can't figure out how to attach it to a computer without someone noticing.
<telephone rings>
"Hi, this is Microsoft Tech Support. We've noticed you have a problem with your computer. We are sending someone over to fix it."
That'd be it!
And there I was naively "thinking" the NSA would be exercising some sort of change control to control exposure of secret intelligence gathering technology by carefully evaluating the exposure risk to intelligence gains and doing slick shit like, um, intercepting hardware shipments and swapping in doctored keyboards or mice. And maybe even adding a doctored PSU with modified DC filtering to match the USB keyboard (those PS2 units don't have much of a power supply) they'd doctored to send DC signals along the AC mains - which'd be good for a few kilometres of signaling.
Sometimes my mind comes up with the most unlikely crap when I don't take my meds.
We were discussing this last night on boingboing, and I shared an equal skepticism.
The basic conclusions were:
A collaborator would be needed to install the device.
An antenna could masquerade in the form of a USB cable.
Municipal distances would be a problem, but eight miles is achievable with consumer-grade ham radio hardware.
There are means to avoid such devices working, if an IT department is security-conscious and takes steps to disable USB ports and plug-n-play services.
I'm still skeptical, mainly because a simple frequency scanner would allow one to detect the presence of transmissions by the device, and because concealing an antenna, even in the form of a USB cable, would be difficult. If the cable is cut-off, then it would be massively obvious with a simple look underneath, and it would be difficult to manufacture a functioning USB cable that contained a radio and antenna.
There was talk of manufacturer collaboration, especially against organizations that develop security (tampering with new-manufacture to replace components on the motherboards essentially) but that seems like it would be extraordinarily difficult to achieve without employees of the manufacturers questioning why they're going through so much effort to do this.
We'll just have to see what comes of it. I'm genuinely curious if we'll ever see any actual evidence or not.
1. Build a minature radio transmitter powered by 5V
2. Insert transmitter into USB keyboard or mouse
3. Find some incredibly complicated and unlikely means of attaching keyboard or mouse to computer
4. Discover boing boing isn't populated by brain surgeons, electronic engineers and rocket scientist?
Not in the catalogue, but extremely do-able, develop a small device that'll run off a USB power supply and will create a secret channel using DC over the AC supply, embed device in mouse or keyboard... That's all I've got, for the life of me I can't figure out how to attach it to a computer without someone noticing.
Of course I'm joking - if it was likely it would have been in some game, or a movie.
There has never been an occurrence of a variety of human stupidity that Mark Twain has not commented on. One particular quote comes to mind with regard to the anonymous poster above:
"The trouble ain't that there are too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.”
Fair enough and I agree with your point about network tv and the advertising cash cows. However I will point out that the latest generation Smart TVs do have interfaces for the new cash cow streaming media services and they have them big time.
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I get your point too. However I just see newspaper, television, music "publishers" and film "production" companies as robber barons of distribution. Streaming services IMO are just late prospectors on a picked out gold field, all of them dying because the internet changes the game. When it comes to hardware, and "smart" TV is just hardware - the manufacturers are at the mercy of consumers. For the most part their revenue stream comes from those that weren't born knowing the internet (I remember the first television broadcasts, but I'm showing my age). My grandkids don't know what MTV is, watch most of their videos on YouTuber, and get their movies from bittorrent - almost all those movies are made for subscription TV. They get their news from blogs and forums and have never bought a newspaper, they buy their music from Google Play - much of it direct from the musicians, and they haven't watched television since they were in primary school. The grandkids are all gamers but mostly they play "app games'' - something else they buy direct from the developers by-passing the distribution monopolies. Only one of my kids owns a television, though they've all got home-built multimedia boxes with TV cards, likewise the grandkids - none of whom have ever owned televisions that I know of. Gunna be hard for those business models to make money from them, and I see the same things happening in Asia, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Africa.
So we agree on some things, just not the future of "smart tv". And no, I don't own a "television" (a couple of old analogue TV sets, but there's no signal for them even if I wanted to watch them, though I've got TV cards - which I don't watch, just the recordings (I'm in Australia where television is shit, so I mostly watch HBO, from PirateBay.)
I've got friends who own a chain of electronic shops - they don't sell many TV sets these days... probably because the top end of the consumer market import Yamakasi Catleap big screens that beat the shit out of anything "smart" TV can offer, in price, picture quality and screen real estate. Might be different elsewhere though. The "low-end" of the market, earning less than $100K pa, still buy televisions, and watch daytime TV and "reality" shows - but changes in technology (self-driving delivery vehicles and robots) mean their spending will be increasingly restricted... so I strongly suspect that'll be the final nail in the coffin for content delivery monopolies. "Smart" TV is pretty dumb without content monopolies, and streaming is a content delivery monopoly built on a content delivery/distribution monopoly.
I think you are missing the point. The TV is in the process of morphing into a fully internet capable device.
I base my opinion on the revenue figures not Murdock's stockholder speeches and CES "optimism over experience" PR. The only relatively healthy sector is subscription.
It would be interesting to see if sales of smart tvs are on the upswing, but like I said everybody seems to be buying them
In your enthuasiasm for the hardware your're missing the point. The Television industry is dying because, with the exception of subscription TV, it's revenue stream is advertising. That's now a revenue trickle with no chance in hell of reverting to it's former cash cow status.
You conflate a viewing device (TV viewer) with a content delivery industry (Television). The television you refer to is just a screen with only arbitrary differences from a plethora of other "screen" devices.
In some parts of the world Television is still broadcast and viewed in a non-digital format, elsewhere "TV manufacturers" are losing market share to "Computing device" manufacturers. That's as likely to change as a Neilsen report is to become relevant to ABC mobile device iview statistics (passive advertising funded entertainment/content consumption is no longer a couch dominated activity).
In short, it could be argued that "television" is morphing - just as it could be argued that drive-in-theatre morphed into streaming video. It's all "screens" right?
even if you take the study at face value, and skew the cause/effect in the alarmist direction, what is it actually saying?
that if you overuse cannabis, you are likely to become psychotic a few years earlier than you would have otherwise.
Really? geez.
News at 9, if you drink whisky every waking hour you'll develop mental "problems" - oh wait, you have mental problems if you drink whisky every waking hour.
A lot of people smoke. A lot of people smoke a lot. (and it didn't start in the 60s, just became mainstream, I'm a grandfather and my grandfather "goofed off" in the Merchant Navy "as a lad". Cannabis in Scotland predates the Romans.) So it's a subject I'd like to see researchers take seriously - but the the current regime of "funding is only available for research into the dangers" and the piss poor science doesn't do that. In the UK where that crap researcher did that "polling" you've got a few major factors that stop me from taking the "paper" seriously. Absolutely no effort is made to seperate the effects of contaminants - deliberate or otherwise from the effects of cannabis. I've seen some alarming studies of the contaminants in street weed in the UK - radioactive lead and polunium in the Nigerian imports and hydro fed with fertilizers made from metal refining by-products, even silica being added to Dutch imports, and the majority of local grow-op bud is heavily contaminated by cut flower preservatives used to try and increase profit by making the buds weigh more (Budswell, glycrerine, etc). Then you've got environmental pollution resulting from poor ventilation in overlit grow-rooms - as well as nasty levels of nitrates from overfertilization (nitrides when smoked).
I've also seen some interesting results from a study in Australia where classes of students were interviewed by men and women - even when the surveys are properly structured (which they often aren't) people lie. In the UK, the US, and Australia hospitals and GPs gather data that is deliberately misused to support particular anti-pot agendas*1. If you wind up in an Emergency room or a psych ward your answers to drug use questions will be misinterpreted to further those agendas. No surprise that we suddenly have an enormous number of people "wanting help to quit cannabis" when the police are no longer allowed to issue a simple fine (no criminal offence) for cases of small possession and cultivation. The Drug Council suddenly find proof for further funding citing an "increase in arrests" followed by courts in (for example) Australia offering mitigation or suspended sentences if the person being charged "seeks treatment".
*1 actual case - a car leaves the road and ploughs through a house injuring a guy sleeping. He goes to hospital and is asked if he ever smoked cannabis. Not "were you under the influence of cannabis at the time of incident".....(sigh)
I think you are missing the point. The TV is in the process of morphing into a fully internet capable device.
I base my opinion on the revenue figures not Murdock's stockholder speeches and CES "optimism over experience" PR. The only relatively healthy sector is subscription.
WTF has dual booting got to do with a stable set of game programming APIs?
I never said it did. Comprehension and extrapolation are not your strong suites, namedropping and skiting don't compenstate any.
You see more software for MacOS because Apple has achieved a significant market share, so there are now enough users for it to be profitable to port to the platform.
Dual-boot means SteamOS is easily accessible on existing (recent) Apple almost all Windows machines, which means a much greater market share than Apple already has.
a stable set of game programming APIs
You're reaching if you need to bring straw men to the discussion at this point - and desperate if you're trying to conflate "Linux" with "Debian Linux as modified by Steam".
So *what* if you can dual-boot Steam OS?
The POINT is that Steam OS gives the game vendors something that hasn't been available in the Linux desktop market to date: a standardized set of APIs with a significant market share.
The same point I made. (sigh).
As to your snide comment about "I'm guessing you're not a programmer", you young whipper snapper, I've been slinging code for over 35 years and could run rings around your ass in C++ or Java.
Good for you. Wish I had the time, must be at least a decades since I wrote anything other than pseudocode.
Now stop flipping that withered thing and wash your hands
Maybe if I get bored I'll add a link to a paper recently published by, um, some Australian researcher showing much simpler techniques. Though I expect the industry shills will just pull it off Wikipedia (again) - it's the only way they can avoid losing in the courts as EMV isn't to protect you - it's to protect banks from liability.
And math skills aren't required - EMV can also be defeated with a paper-clip. I'm sure you can do your own reseach (clicking on Wikipedia barely qualifies as research). Replacing the merchant generated nonce with one embedded by the bank would be a step forward - as will the proposed one-time-key code display for Mastercard. Emue is even more secure.
Drugs are the actual cause of psychotic disorders in many. If you look at the state you're in on the drug, you're shit wasted, experiencing all the effects of psychotic disorder, including hallucinations,
Oh yeah? Where do I get that pot? I haven't seen any trippy Thai since the 70s - when the small mountain growers were all driven out and the trade was replaced with Columbian grown in the lowlands - and I've made more than a few trips back since then.
You cherry pick the facts to support a deep emotional investment in an unsupportable belief.
The "researcher" makes a living conflating correlation and causation. AKT1 gene my arse. Marta is full of shit. Most psychotics have their first attacks in the late teens - but "proof" "Skunk cannabis" causes psychosis is that smoking it "for many years" (you read the study right?).
If you spend most of your time stoned on strong Indica you are psychotic. The rest of us smoke because we enjoy it as part of our lives. If you indulge regularly in something that leaves you couch-locked it's not the drug that's the problem - it's the motivation. Those people smoke "to get out of it" - their poly-drug users (classic "self-medicators"). But hey, it's not my fault I'm a fat fucker either, I inherited the heavy bone genes, it was a childhood diet, poor self-esteem, distorted body image, blah blah - and any "scientist/dietician/psychologist/neuroscientist" that supports that view isn't doing in a cynical attempt to further their own career so lets just all have a big hug OK?
I'll stick with the facts - a large percentage of people my age have been smoking for 40+ years, we're just not the people you would pick as "smokers". Nor are our children or grandchildren. Now pick up that mop and get back to work before I fire your arse!
Are you saying that the whole "Steambox" thing will be such an utter failure that it will turn people off from buying PCs *period*, thereby killing sales even further?
Of course, PC sales aren't bleeding out by any means, overall, so...
Ignore the OP, clearly too clueless to understand the difference between a Windows box and an Apple box (fuck all).
You see more software for MacOS because Apple has achieved a significant market share, so there are now enough users for it to be profitable to port to the platform.
SteamOS portends to do the same for Linux -- provide a large enough user community that it's worth writing software for. More importantly, it standardizes the gaming APIs so that game developers have a known platform to code to. Right now, there is too much divergence on the particular sound APIs and display software versions in what is collectively called "Linux" for it to be safe to port to. While there are big players in the server space (RedHat/CentOS/OracleLinux), the same is not true of the desktop, and that has seriously hindered uptake by the developers.
As per usual, it's been a chicken and egg problem. People won't go with a Linux box for the sake of games because there is a dearth of games. People won't develop for Linux because there is a dearth of users.
Do you think? Have you ever heard of, um, dual-boot? Linux development is already the largest community project in the history of the planet. Perhaps you're confusing that little segment of the market called "Desktop" with all computers? I'm guessing you're not a programmer.
There's no significant reason why installing a SteamOS onto a Mac (as dual-boot) will be any harder (if it hasn't been achieved while I type this) than it currently is to install it as a dual-boot onto a Windows 8 box. I initially installed it (Ye Olde SteamOS) onto an external USB drive in VirtualBox before "fixing" Windows 8 by taking over the entire harddrive with Debian Linux and adding the SteamOS repository to get the SteamOS interface.
This quote makes zero sense:
"...reliance on Windows and DirectX (and to a lesser extent Mac OS), systems that cannot be relied upon in the long term."
Really, because my experience with Linux and backwards / forwards support for both software and hardware has been vastly worse than Windows from XP through 8. Sure before XP, Windows 9x was terrible, but are we really going to keep basing derp derp FUD on a 5 year window of hard lessons from nearly 15 years ago?
Can we just fess up and admit that SteamOS is an effort predicated on a personal beef Gabe Newell has with Microsoft and especially the fact that Windows 8 included it's own store and that store was not Steam. The story is well documented and the whole industry is going to blow a lot of money on development just to satisfy one man's ego.
Linux supports older hardware than windows 7 and 8, no question. Regarding the software... You definitely have a point there. Almost. The Linux kernel itself actually has backwards compatibility for userspace software going back quite a bit. It's mostly glibc that breaks this. If it isn't happening already, it will eventually. You'll be downloading games from that simply ship with their own libraries. I believe a lot of Windows software works this way.
The OP is a moron. While the initial release of SteamOS isn't dual boot friendly it's clearly designed to be. As for poor software support - that's another reason why Debian Linux was a smart choice (and that decision was not made by Gabe Newell) - there's not a whole lot of work that Steam had to do, it's basically a Liquorix kernel and a backport of eglibc. The same dumb platform choice made by other stupid loser companies like, um, Google and IBM.:)
You can actually get a lot of old loki games to run in linux by installing older versions of various libraries. Although, you do encounter some issues. For example, Simcity 3000 won't give you sound since it wants to use esd (which hasn't seen use in years), but the game will otherwise run. This takes some work to setup, but if the games on steam do this for you, it's a non-issue.
Isn't keeping the PC game industry healthy by putting SteamBoxes in the living room the same thing as a console-killer?
Not quite. The primary goal is the protection of the PC platform (which is Valve's revenue source).
The console killing properties are just an added bonus.
I don't know... consider the possibility that Steam just doesn't want to make an investement in a proprietary hardware platform so the PC "choice" is just that - a choice that means they can concentrate on software without being made dependant on a single manufacturer. Choosing Debian Linux is just part of that choice.
And traditional Windows isn't going anywhere, and you will always be able to install whatever you want. Any restriction around this would be suicide-bombing Microsoft's main revenue stream. There are literally millions of applications which will never be in the Microsoft store.
Obviously you haven't actually used Windows 8. When you do you'll be less surprised by Windows 9, always supposed they'll still be in business.
The rest of your statement was equally stupid, as gerddie points out.
Regrettably I had to endure a box with W8 preinstalled, fortunately it took little time to replace that with Debian Wheezy then add the SteamOS repo. An OS, applications, and the SteamOS interface all for $0
How do I subscribe to your stock tip newsletter? I'll buy short and make a killing.
Gotta love the ivory tower, smug liberal Slashdotters that are so numerous lately. Never actually being in a real ghetto and seeing real gangbangers
Do you think? (rhetorical question given the nature of your statement) What about trailer parks? Or have you failed to notice (the self-evident truth) that stupid has nothing to do with skin colour?
In your Church example, if I was on the jury and that was the totality of the evidence, I would vote not to convict. That's because motive and means does not mean you did it. It suggests you did, but it is by no means "proof".
Brilliant logic. Unless.... what if, longshot, but, what if when the Church burns down the police come around to your house, and find you wearing smoke stained, petrol reeking clothes because your name came up in a web search of likely culprits?
You're assuming it would have made any difference. Remember that these systems have to store the data whilst the transactions are in flight. No, the solution has been known for decades - it's EMV.
I'm hoping it's just ignorance of how EMV actually works that makes you say that. Some people are under the mistaken belief that EMV means account details are encrypted (yes their are private keys on it), or that EMV somehow protects your account details from being used to charge your account - and they're wrong on both counts.
In this particular instance the problem only looks like it's related to Target, the common factor is the Indian card processor, the people behind it have been operating this and similar rips for almost a decade.
And no, the problem isn't (just) failure to comply with PCI - it's outsourcing responsibility (that is the problem).
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no proof needed. It's too obvious.
It's "obvious" in much the same way that other false things have been "obvious" over the years on Slashdot.
You're confusing psychic "knowledge" with psychotic conflating an emotional investment in their own "gut instincts" "confirmed" by a cherry-picked version of reality and calling it "obvious". A common mistake I blame on education and logical deduction.
My intiution is that psychic ability is, um, bullshit....
<telephone rings>
"Hi, this is Microsoft Tech Support. We've noticed you have a problem with your computer. We are sending someone over to fix it."
That'd be it!
And there I was naively "thinking" the NSA would be exercising some sort of change control to control exposure of secret intelligence gathering technology by carefully evaluating the exposure risk to intelligence gains and doing slick shit like, um, intercepting hardware shipments and swapping in doctored keyboards or mice. And maybe even adding a doctored PSU with modified DC filtering to match the USB keyboard (those PS2 units don't have much of a power supply) they'd doctored to send DC signals along the AC mains - which'd be good for a few kilometres of signaling.
Sometimes my mind comes up with the most unlikely crap when I don't take my meds.
We were discussing this last night on boingboing, and I shared an equal skepticism. The basic conclusions were:
I'm still skeptical, mainly because a simple frequency scanner would allow one to detect the presence of transmissions by the device, and because concealing an antenna, even in the form of a USB cable, would be difficult. If the cable is cut-off, then it would be massively obvious with a simple look underneath, and it would be difficult to manufacture a functioning USB cable that contained a radio and antenna. There was talk of manufacturer collaboration, especially against organizations that develop security (tampering with new-manufacture to replace components on the motherboards essentially) but that seems like it would be extraordinarily difficult to achieve without employees of the manufacturers questioning why they're going through so much effort to do this. We'll just have to see what comes of it. I'm genuinely curious if we'll ever see any actual evidence or not.
Not in the catalogue, but extremely do-able, develop a small device that'll run off a USB power supply and will create a secret channel using DC over the AC supply, embed device in mouse or keyboard... That's all I've got, for the life of me I can't figure out how to attach it to a computer without someone noticing.
Of course I'm joking - if it was likely it would have been in some game, or a movie.
This shit has been going on long before Snowden and his self centered ego trip of thinking he has done "good"?
Feeling a little cock challenged? Cheer up, there's a new shirt in the mail for you.
There has never been an occurrence of a variety of human stupidity that Mark Twain has not commented on. One particular quote comes to mind with regard to the anonymous poster above:
"The trouble ain't that there are too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.”
Stay inside, fool.
Maybe if we could get them to wear antenna hats!
Just give 'em all free "We hate Snowden/Assange" shirts. In nice bright colours.
That way when they're lined up against the wall they'll be easier to shoot. That'd automatically raise the standards.
Fair enough and I agree with your point about network tv and the advertising cash cows. However I will point out that the latest generation Smart TVs do have interfaces for the new cash cow streaming media services and they have them big time.
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I get your point too. However I just see newspaper, television, music "publishers" and film "production" companies as robber barons of distribution. Streaming services IMO are just late prospectors on a picked out gold field, all of them dying because the internet changes the game. When it comes to hardware, and "smart" TV is just hardware - the manufacturers are at the mercy of consumers. For the most part their revenue stream comes from those that weren't born knowing the internet (I remember the first television broadcasts, but I'm showing my age). My grandkids don't know what MTV is, watch most of their videos on YouTuber, and get their movies from bittorrent - almost all those movies are made for subscription TV. They get their news from blogs and forums and have never bought a newspaper, they buy their music from Google Play - much of it direct from the musicians, and they haven't watched television since they were in primary school. The grandkids are all gamers but mostly they play "app games'' - something else they buy direct from the developers by-passing the distribution monopolies. Only one of my kids owns a television, though they've all got home-built multimedia boxes with TV cards, likewise the grandkids - none of whom have ever owned televisions that I know of. Gunna be hard for those business models to make money from them, and I see the same things happening in Asia, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Africa.
So we agree on some things, just not the future of "smart tv". And no, I don't own a "television" (a couple of old analogue TV sets, but there's no signal for them even if I wanted to watch them, though I've got TV cards - which I don't watch, just the recordings (I'm in Australia where television is shit, so I mostly watch HBO, from PirateBay.)
I've got friends who own a chain of electronic shops - they don't sell many TV sets these days... probably because the top end of the consumer market import Yamakasi Catleap big screens that beat the shit out of anything "smart" TV can offer, in price, picture quality and screen real estate. Might be different elsewhere though. The "low-end" of the market, earning less than $100K pa, still buy televisions, and watch daytime TV and "reality" shows - but changes in technology (self-driving delivery vehicles and robots) mean their spending will be increasingly restricted... so I strongly suspect that'll be the final nail in the coffin for content delivery monopolies. "Smart" TV is pretty dumb without content monopolies, and streaming is a content delivery monopoly built on a content delivery/distribution monopoly.
I think you are missing the point. The TV is in the process of morphing into a fully internet capable device.
I base my opinion on the revenue figures not Murdock's stockholder speeches and CES "optimism over experience" PR. The only relatively healthy sector is subscription.
It would be interesting to see if sales of smart tvs are on the upswing, but like I said everybody seems to be buying them
In your enthuasiasm for the hardware your're missing the point. The Television industry is dying because, with the exception of subscription TV, it's revenue stream is advertising. That's now a revenue trickle with no chance in hell of reverting to it's former cash cow status.
You conflate a viewing device (TV viewer) with a content delivery industry (Television). The television you refer to is just a screen with only arbitrary differences from a plethora of other "screen" devices.
In some parts of the world Television is still broadcast and viewed in a non-digital format, elsewhere "TV manufacturers" are losing market share to "Computing device" manufacturers. That's as likely to change as a Neilsen report is to become relevant to ABC mobile device iview statistics (passive advertising funded entertainment/content consumption is no longer a couch dominated activity).
In short, it could be argued that "television" is morphing - just as it could be argued that drive-in-theatre morphed into streaming video. It's all "screens" right?
even if you take the study at face value, and skew the cause/effect in the alarmist direction, what is it actually saying? that if you overuse cannabis, you are likely to become psychotic a few years earlier than you would have otherwise. Really? geez.
News at 9, if you drink whisky every waking hour you'll develop mental "problems" - oh wait, you have mental problems if you drink whisky every waking hour.
A lot of people smoke. A lot of people smoke a lot. (and it didn't start in the 60s, just became mainstream, I'm a grandfather and my grandfather "goofed off" in the Merchant Navy "as a lad". Cannabis in Scotland predates the Romans.)
So it's a subject I'd like to see researchers take seriously - but the the current regime of "funding is only available for research into the dangers" and the piss poor science doesn't do that. In the UK where that crap researcher did that "polling" you've got a few major factors that stop me from taking the "paper" seriously. Absolutely no effort is made to seperate the effects of contaminants - deliberate or otherwise from the effects of cannabis. I've seen some alarming studies of the contaminants in street weed in the UK - radioactive lead and polunium in the Nigerian imports and hydro fed with fertilizers made from metal refining by-products, even silica being added to Dutch imports, and the majority of local grow-op bud is heavily contaminated by cut flower preservatives used to try and increase profit by making the buds weigh more (Budswell, glycrerine, etc). Then you've got environmental pollution resulting from poor ventilation in overlit grow-rooms - as well as nasty levels of nitrates from overfertilization (nitrides when smoked).
I've also seen some interesting results from a study in Australia where classes of students were interviewed by men and women - even when the surveys are properly structured (which they often aren't) people lie. In the UK, the US, and Australia hospitals and GPs gather data that is deliberately misused to support particular anti-pot agendas*1. If you wind up in an Emergency room or a psych ward your answers to drug use questions will be misinterpreted to further those agendas. No surprise that we suddenly have an enormous number of people "wanting help to quit cannabis" when the police are no longer allowed to issue a simple fine (no criminal offence) for cases of small possession and cultivation. The Drug Council suddenly find proof for further funding citing an "increase in arrests" followed by courts in (for example) Australia offering mitigation or suspended sentences if the person being charged "seeks treatment".
*1 actual case - a car leaves the road and ploughs through a house injuring a guy sleeping. He goes to hospital and is asked if he ever smoked cannabis. Not "were you under the influence of cannabis at the time of incident".....(sigh)
I think you are missing the point. The TV is in the process of morphing into a fully internet capable device.
I base my opinion on the revenue figures not Murdock's stockholder speeches and CES "optimism over experience" PR. The only relatively healthy sector is subscription.
WTF has dual booting got to do with a stable set of game programming APIs?
I never said it did. Comprehension and extrapolation are not your strong suites, namedropping and skiting don't compenstate any.
You see more software for MacOS because Apple has achieved a significant market share, so there are now enough users for it to be profitable to port to the platform.
Dual-boot means SteamOS is easily accessible on existing (recent) Apple almost all Windows machines, which means a much greater market share than Apple already has.
a stable set of game programming APIs
You're reaching if you need to bring straw men to the discussion at this point - and desperate if you're trying to conflate "Linux" with "Debian Linux as modified by Steam".
So *what* if you can dual-boot Steam OS?
The POINT is that Steam OS gives the game vendors something that hasn't been available in the Linux desktop market to date: a standardized set of APIs with a significant market share.
The same point I made. (sigh).
As to your snide comment about "I'm guessing you're not a programmer", you young whipper snapper, I've been slinging code for over 35 years and could run rings around your ass in C++ or Java.
Good for you. Wish I had the time, must be at least a decades since I wrote anything other than pseudocode.
Now stop flipping that withered thing and wash your hands
Hell, I even pre-date the GPL.
Is that the senility defence?
or on fedora:
sudo yum install puseaudio-esound-compat
:D "puseaudio", does that work OK with sysmd?
You should read the EMV wiki page.
Wikipedia huh?
Maybe if I get bored I'll add a link to a paper recently published by, um, some Australian researcher showing much simpler techniques. Though I expect the industry shills will just pull it off Wikipedia (again) - it's the only way they can avoid losing in the courts as EMV isn't to protect you - it's to protect banks from liability.
And math skills aren't required - EMV can also be defeated with a paper-clip. I'm sure you can do your own reseach (clicking on Wikipedia barely qualifies as research). Replacing the merchant generated nonce with one embedded by the bank would be a step forward - as will the proposed one-time-key code display for Mastercard. Emue is even more secure.
Drugs are the actual cause of psychotic disorders in many. If you look at the state you're in on the drug, you're shit wasted, experiencing all the effects of psychotic disorder, including hallucinations,
Oh yeah? Where do I get that pot? I haven't seen any trippy Thai since the 70s - when the small mountain growers were all driven out and the trade was replaced with Columbian grown in the lowlands - and I've made more than a few trips back since then.
You cherry pick the facts to support a deep emotional investment in an unsupportable belief.
The "researcher" makes a living conflating correlation and causation. AKT1 gene my arse. Marta is full of shit. Most psychotics have their first attacks in the late teens - but "proof" "Skunk cannabis" causes psychosis is that smoking it "for many years" (you read the study right?).
If you spend most of your time stoned on strong Indica you are psychotic. The rest of us smoke because we enjoy it as part of our lives. If you indulge regularly in something that leaves you couch-locked it's not the drug that's the problem - it's the motivation. Those people smoke "to get out of it" - their poly-drug users (classic "self-medicators"). But hey, it's not my fault I'm a fat fucker either, I inherited the heavy bone genes, it was a childhood diet, poor self-esteem, distorted body image, blah blah - and any "scientist/dietician/psychologist/neuroscientist" that supports that view isn't doing in a cynical attempt to further their own career so lets just all have a big hug OK?
I'll stick with the facts - a large percentage of people my age have been smoking for 40+ years, we're just not the people you would pick as "smokers". Nor are our children or grandchildren.
Now pick up that mop and get back to work before I fire your arse!
I don't understand your comment.
Are you saying that the whole "Steambox" thing will be such an utter failure that it will turn people off from buying PCs *period*, thereby killing sales even further?
Of course, PC sales aren't bleeding out by any means, overall, so...
Ignore the OP, clearly too clueless to understand the difference between a Windows box and an Apple box (fuck all).
You see more software for MacOS because Apple has achieved a significant market share, so there are now enough users for it to be profitable to port to the platform.
SteamOS portends to do the same for Linux -- provide a large enough user community that it's worth writing software for. More importantly, it standardizes the gaming APIs so that game developers have a known platform to code to. Right now, there is too much divergence on the particular sound APIs and display software versions in what is collectively called "Linux" for it to be safe to port to. While there are big players in the server space (RedHat/CentOS/OracleLinux), the same is not true of the desktop, and that has seriously hindered uptake by the developers.
As per usual, it's been a chicken and egg problem. People won't go with a Linux box for the sake of games because there is a dearth of games. People won't develop for Linux because there is a dearth of users.
Do you think? Have you ever heard of, um, dual-boot? Linux development is already the largest community project in the history of the planet. Perhaps you're confusing that little segment of the market called "Desktop" with all computers? I'm guessing you're not a programmer.
There's no significant reason why installing a SteamOS onto a Mac (as dual-boot) will be any harder (if it hasn't been achieved while I type this) than it currently is to install it as a dual-boot onto a Windows 8 box. I initially installed it (Ye Olde SteamOS) onto an external USB drive in VirtualBox before "fixing" Windows 8 by taking over the entire harddrive with Debian Linux and adding the SteamOS repository to get the SteamOS interface.
This quote makes zero sense: "...reliance on Windows and DirectX (and to a lesser extent Mac OS), systems that cannot be relied upon in the long term." Really, because my experience with Linux and backwards / forwards support for both software and hardware has been vastly worse than Windows from XP through 8. Sure before XP, Windows 9x was terrible, but are we really going to keep basing derp derp FUD on a 5 year window of hard lessons from nearly 15 years ago? Can we just fess up and admit that SteamOS is an effort predicated on a personal beef Gabe Newell has with Microsoft and especially the fact that Windows 8 included it's own store and that store was not Steam. The story is well documented and the whole industry is going to blow a lot of money on development just to satisfy one man's ego.
Linux supports older hardware than windows 7 and 8, no question. Regarding the software... You definitely have a point there. Almost. The Linux kernel itself actually has backwards compatibility for userspace software going back quite a bit. It's mostly glibc that breaks this. If it isn't happening already, it will eventually. You'll be downloading games from that simply ship with their own libraries. I believe a lot of Windows software works this way.
The OP is a moron. While the initial release of SteamOS isn't dual boot friendly it's clearly designed to be. As for poor software support - that's another reason why Debian Linux was a smart choice (and that decision was not made by Gabe Newell) - there's not a whole lot of work that Steam had to do, it's basically a Liquorix kernel and a backport of eglibc. The same dumb platform choice made by other stupid loser companies like, um, Google and IBM. :)
You can actually get a lot of old loki games to run in linux by installing older versions of various libraries. Although, you do encounter some issues. For example, Simcity 3000 won't give you sound since it wants to use esd (which hasn't seen use in years), but the game will otherwise run. This takes some work to setup, but if the games on steam do this for you, it's a non-issue.
I guess it's some work. But hardly onerous.
# apt-get install libesd0 pulseaudio-esound-compat
Smart TVs will kill consoles eventually.
Hurrah the first person to see the forest for the trees.
Last time I looked TV wasn't doing much better than the trees. I hear radio and newspapers are a force to be reckoned with though.
Isn't keeping the PC game industry healthy by putting SteamBoxes in the living room the same thing as a console-killer?
Not quite. The primary goal is the protection of the PC platform (which is Valve's revenue source).
The console killing properties are just an added bonus.
I don't know... consider the possibility that Steam just doesn't want to make an investement in a proprietary hardware platform so the PC "choice" is just that - a choice that means they can concentrate on software without being made dependant on a single manufacturer. Choosing Debian Linux is just part of that choice.
And traditional Windows isn't going anywhere, and you will always be able to install whatever you want. Any restriction around this would be suicide-bombing Microsoft's main revenue stream. There are literally millions of applications which will never be in the Microsoft store.
Obviously you haven't actually used Windows 8. When you do you'll be less surprised by Windows 9, always supposed they'll still be in business.
The rest of your statement was equally stupid, as gerddie points out.
Regrettably I had to endure a box with W8 preinstalled, fortunately it took little time to replace that with Debian Wheezy then add the SteamOS repo. An OS, applications, and the SteamOS interface all for $0
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Gangs are for losers that can't do anything for themselves.
Gangs are for people who believe they'll gain an advantage in a group. Some do.
Dogma, though, is for losers.
Gotta love the ivory tower, smug liberal Slashdotters that are so numerous lately. Never actually being in a real ghetto and seeing real gangbangers
Do you think? (rhetorical question given the nature of your statement) What about trailer parks? Or have you failed to notice (the self-evident truth) that stupid has nothing to do with skin colour?
In your Church example, if I was on the jury and that was the totality of the evidence, I would vote not to convict. That's because motive and means does not mean you did it. It suggests you did, but it is by no means "proof".
Brilliant logic. Unless.... what if, longshot, but, what if when the Church burns down the police come around to your house, and find you wearing smoke stained, petrol reeking clothes because your name came up in a web search of likely culprits?
You're assuming it would have made any difference. Remember that these systems have to store the data whilst the transactions are in flight. No, the solution has been known for decades - it's EMV.
I'm hoping it's just ignorance of how EMV actually works that makes you say that. Some people are under the mistaken belief that EMV means account details are encrypted (yes their are private keys on it), or that EMV somehow protects your account details from being used to charge your account - and they're wrong on both counts.
In this particular instance the problem only looks like it's related to Target, the common factor is the Indian card processor, the people behind it have been operating this and similar rips for almost a decade.
And no, the problem isn't (just) failure to comply with PCI - it's outsourcing responsibility (that is the problem).