He saw KPCB's investment in Netscape going down the shitter and orchestrated the purchased through the leverage his firm had with AOL, another KPCB-sponsored firm.
This happens all the time - how the hell do you think a retarded merger like Excite/AtHome ever got off the ground???
please include an alternate method of running untrusted software
on your local computer!
Huh? What is "untrusted software"???
Do you "trust" code you find on rpmfind.net?
Do you "trust" code you download from sourceforge?
There is no such thing as "trusted" and "untrusted" code, so get over it. The closest you are going to come is open source, where the chances of a whistleblower making a call on bad software is substantially higher.
As for alternate methods for running so called "untrusted" code, there are many approahces outside of sandbox models, including ML's proof-carrying approach (yes, I actually read one of the essays Tom7 keeps linking to).
I'm not saying that hotspot isn't impressive, but it isn't anywhere near native code yet.
And becuase of this, I refuse to even acknowledge Sun sponsored benchmarks - they're rigged. So don't respond with Sunworld, Javalobby, or Sun.com benchmarks.
Preface: i am not an advocate of C# or MS, but this post is simply to lame and stupid to be moderated up as highly as it is
I was under the impression that one of Java's big strengths was that it didn't stick too closely to C++, and actually had a coherent, consistant design.
Java's consistent design???Right, like the bizare dichotomy of reference types and primitive types?
XML tags. I'm glad Microsoft has decided that it's time to follow the industry standard hype. {MumbleMumbleJavaDocMumbleMumble}
JavaDoc is not the same as the XML-attributing system they discussed. As it stands, JavaDoc is extremely lame. Even POD is more useful, and POD is quite broken on its own.
Well, what else do you need? HTTP, HTML, XML and M$? I should have figured that out a long time ago, and just taken UDP out of my TCP/IP stack
altogether.
I can't figure out what the hell you are trying to say here, but its not coherent or intelligent.
If you need to write unsafe code to ensure that things don't get "accidentally garbage-collected" either the GC is worthless, or you're failing to fully
utilize the paradigm.
Did you understand a fricking thing those guys said?
They guys at M$ are obviously too sober to put ideals over profit.
How would Berkeley value profit over ideals? Why would M$ value ideals over profit? You're almost at troll level here.
Anyways, I'd like to see a JIT compiler do better than the Hotspot model
(interpretation + realtime profiling to find sections of code to compile to native code).
Uh, check some benchmarks - HotSpot'd code still runs at least twice as slow as native.
The rest of your post I won't even comment on, most of it was uninformed trolling. Once again, I am also highly suspicious of MS and.NET, but this retarded trolling is ridiculous.
Dylan simply never had a firm commitment from an industry partner that was willing to market it, develop it, and see it through. Apple dropped it shortly after releasing the first version.
The servant has become the master. Like Bluetooth, Jini, Symbian, set-top boxes, "devices", WAP, all of this vapor amounts to good press, but it still boils down to desktops and servers.
I'd be amazed if one tangible product emerges from this, but frankly RHAT needs to do anything it can (include lying) to prop up what is amounting to be the biggest scam of the century - linux stocks.
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For those who have a hard time understanding or handling more than 1,000 pages
Nice try, but both Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead could have been usefully scribed within 250 pages. Rand had great ideas, but her novels sucked, and this opinion has nothing to do with my opinion of her philosophy (which I admire).Interestingly, people either absolutely love or hate Rand's writing. Usually that's an indication that the issue has to do with the philosophy represented than a name-calling slam (usually by one who hasn't even read the material).
This has to be the most "anti-objectivist" line of reasoning I've ever heard, and an incredibly childish argument. You're practically channeling Rand's villains in her defense. Of course you can critique the novels while admiring the philosophy.
I'd be amazed if most educated readers can get through the hackneyed plot and contrived, two-dimensional characters without puking.
Rand was a great thinker, but perhaps the worst published novelist of the twentieth century.
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Firstly, Borsook is a member of technorealism, (looks to be dead right now) a cabal of so-called "intellectuals" who are unable and unwilling to cope with technological change, and in the grand liberal tradition, have deicded that no one else should either. I'm really grateful that there are conscientious elistes ready to step in and make my decisions for me. Really, the members of technorealism should hang their heads in shame, it has to be the most pathetic interest group I've ever seen assembled - led by the incredibly uninsightful David Shenk, who simply couldn't find the "off" switch on his fax machine and now feels he must save us all.
Even more ludicrous was her essay in Salon regarding the supposed fall of San Francisco - Borsook seems to forget that hippies and art types hijacked the city only a generation before - she's simply annoyed with the fact that this time she's on the receiving end of the boot. The bulk of San Francisco's history is that of a rough western town - not a glorified art colony.
Why would anyone want to spend years of their life reimplementing twenty-year-old technology that can be easily pirated or purchased for a measely sum?
At most, Windows is $100. That's chicken scratch for anyone with a full-time job in the industrialized world. If you can't muster together $100US, steal the damn thing - we won't tell.
Windows is a dumb, bad OS that we're in the unfortunate position being saddled with. If anyone wants to improve the world's "Windows" problem, they should invnet cool new technologies that make Windows irrelevant - not simply reimplement the damn thing.
Besides, they'll never get it off the ground anyway.
I work on an ML compiler, and have seen it beat C code performance-wise
Blah! All of the benchmarks that draw these conclusions use inane test cases like matrix operations and sorting.
When ML can produce a system with graphical interfaces, user interation, and device management can even get to half the performance of C, than I'll start using it. Until then, all of the benchmarks are worthless.
Being in and around Silicon Valley, and also having seen so much change over the face of the computing industry in the last 20 years, what mistakes do you see that are causing so many dotcoms to fail?
Uh, maybe that they never had a viable business plan??
Idiot. The architecture of the web makes it vulnerable to such attacks. The fact that there is such a thing as a "core" internet router is the entire problem.
This has zilch to do with Tim Berners Lee's work at CERN.
You still don't understand the difference between the web and the net, do you?
The net is a superset of the web, you twit. NNTP and SMTP are not the "web".
Go away unless you've more to offer than repeating what I said with irrelevant and self-contradictory ad hominem garbage tacked on.
This doesn't make any sense at all. Do you even know what ad-hominem attacks are? Holy shit you're dumb. Keep using AC access, its probably the safest bet for twits like yourself.
Fact: Time and again, real-world experience has shown that gun ownership varies inversely to crime.
Fact: the US has more citizens incarcerated for violent crimes per capita than any other industrialized nation. Oops, correct, about five times.
As it stands, most of the European nations have crime rates far lower than even the safest US states.
This is why the KKK has always been in favor of gun control (along with public education).
This is tantamount to invoking Hitler/Nazis as a straw-man couter-argument. Under Godwin's law, you lose.
Fact: That's a pretentious way of talking around the fact that you have no rights as men or as citizens. The truth is that British citizens are subjects of the Queen,
The Queen has the same symbolic role as Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. Don't kid yourself into thinking the US doesn't have royalty that is worshipped in the same pathetic way as the Windsors.
Fact: European tax rates vary between 70% and 90%
Next year when you're in grade eleven, you'll learn all about serious research, and all of this will be a distant memory.
The web was developed at CERN, and I think we all know what that means
Evidently you don't - the article refers to attacking core internet routers. This has essentially zilch to do with HTML/HTTP trials at CERN.
It's time to privatize the architecture of the Web. It's time to start over with something done on time and under budget, the way private enterprise can and must do things because of its very nature.
Thankfully you had the common sense to post this trash as an AC - your comments are completely uninformed. The internet was the creation of big government planning and spending.
We abide by all existing laws. This was an issue around 30 years ago, not today. Laws were passed to protect the integrity of the radio stations, which we always respect.
"You" should try reading the news more often - a major record company is set to purchase a huge chain of radio stations right now. Who needs payola?
How quickly we forget what times were like 20 or 30 years ago. The record industry didn't give people what they wanted, 20 or 30 years ago. They wanted more of the same. We gave them something different, and some disliked it, just like some dislike the music of today.
Pass this through a demoronizer and come back when you have something cohesive to say.
They listen to what we say because we provide them with the music that they want.
What utter bullshit. The music companies don't cater to listeners tastes - if that were the case, there would be much more variety and far less crap.
No, "you" to divine what the "target demographic" is and then you manufacture a product that is intentionally mediocore enough that it does not musically offend anyone, and is only useful enough to maybe get the drooling masses to come back to the trough the next time, in some bizarre pavlovian response. Case in point is Britney Spears and NSync and the rest of this sheer garbage which is exceedingly worse than even top 40 music from twenty years ago. "You" have eliminated risk by eliminating variety. "You" are now entering into radio station ownership deals to ensure that the distribution channels force your manufactured crap on the public whether they like it or not.
This is why people are taking matters into their own hands and putting "you" out of the editing and selection biz.
He saw KPCB's investment in Netscape going down the shitter and orchestrated the purchased through the leverage his firm had with AOL, another KPCB-sponsored firm.
This happens all the time - how the hell do you think a retarded merger like Excite/AtHome ever got off the ground???
Huh? What is "untrusted software"???
Do you "trust" code you find on rpmfind.net?
Do you "trust" code you download from sourceforge?
There is no such thing as "trusted" and "untrusted" code, so get over it. The closest you are going to come is open source, where the chances of a whistleblower making a call on bad software is substantially higher.
As for alternate methods for running so called "untrusted" code, there are many approahces outside of sandbox models, including ML's proof-carrying approach (yes, I actually read one of the essays Tom7 keeps linking to).
I'm not saying that hotspot isn't impressive, but it isn't anywhere near native code yet.
And becuase of this, I refuse to even acknowledge Sun sponsored benchmarks - they're rigged. So don't respond with Sunworld, Javalobby, or Sun.com benchmarks.
I was under the impression that one of Java's big strengths was that it didn't stick too closely to C++, and actually had a coherent, consistant design.
Java's consistent design???Right, like the bizare dichotomy of reference types and primitive types?
XML tags. I'm glad Microsoft has decided that it's time to follow the industry standard hype. {MumbleMumbleJavaDocMumbleMumble}
JavaDoc is not the same as the XML-attributing system they discussed. As it stands, JavaDoc is extremely lame. Even POD is more useful, and POD is quite broken on its own.
Well, what else do you need? HTTP, HTML, XML and M$? I should have figured that out a long time ago, and just taken UDP out of my TCP/IP stack altogether.
I can't figure out what the hell you are trying to say here, but its not coherent or intelligent.
If you need to write unsafe code to ensure that things don't get "accidentally garbage-collected" either the GC is worthless, or you're failing to fully utilize the paradigm.
Did you understand a fricking thing those guys said?
They guys at M$ are obviously too sober to put ideals over profit.
How would Berkeley value profit over ideals? Why would M$ value ideals over profit? You're almost at troll level here.
Anyways, I'd like to see a JIT compiler do better than the Hotspot model (interpretation + realtime profiling to find sections of code to compile to native code).
Uh, check some benchmarks - HotSpot'd code still runs at least twice as slow as native.
The rest of your post I won't even comment on, most of it was uninformed trolling. Once again, I am also highly suspicious of MS and .NET, but this retarded trolling is ridiculous.
Dylan simply never had a firm commitment from an industry partner that was willing to market it, develop it, and see it through. Apple dropped it shortly after releasing the first version.
This is a strength of a large, open community, not a weakness. If Windows source was open, the list would likely go well into the thousands.
No, you can safely hardwire the code for the toaster in ROM.
I'd be amazed if one tangible product emerges from this, but frankly RHAT needs to do anything it can (include lying) to prop up what is amounting to be the biggest scam of the century - linux stocks.
Nice try, but both Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead could have been usefully scribed within 250 pages. Rand had great ideas, but her novels sucked, and this opinion has nothing to do with my opinion of her philosophy (which I admire).Interestingly, people either absolutely love or hate Rand's writing. Usually that's an indication that the issue has to do with the philosophy represented than a name-calling slam (usually by one who hasn't even read the material).
This has to be the most "anti-objectivist" line of reasoning I've ever heard, and an incredibly childish argument. You're practically channeling Rand's villains in her defense. Of course you can critique the novels while admiring the philosophy.
Rand was a great thinker, but perhaps the worst published novelist of the twentieth century.
Even more ludicrous was her essay in Salon regarding the supposed fall of San Francisco - Borsook seems to forget that hippies and art types hijacked the city only a generation before - she's simply annoyed with the fact that this time she's on the receiving end of the boot. The bulk of San Francisco's history is that of a rough western town - not a glorified art colony.
At most, Windows is $100. That's chicken scratch for anyone with a full-time job in the industrialized world. If you can't muster together $100US, steal the damn thing - we won't tell.
Windows is a dumb, bad OS that we're in the unfortunate position being saddled with. If anyone wants to improve the world's "Windows" problem, they should invnet cool new technologies that make Windows irrelevant - not simply reimplement the damn thing.
Besides, they'll never get it off the ground anyway.
Blah! All of the benchmarks that draw these conclusions use inane test cases like matrix operations and sorting.
When ML can produce a system with graphical interfaces, user interation, and device management can even get to half the performance of C, than I'll start using it. Until then, all of the benchmarks are worthless.
EOM
come on, when it comes to open source and alternative OSs, i doubt cringely can tell you anything you haven't heard before twenty times.
Uh, maybe that they never had a viable business plan??
mail, calendar, etc. already working with servers near you that can never be slashdotted.
Frothing arrogant moron high-school drop-out without facts, tact, or logic." might be a bit closer.
This has zilch to do with Tim Berners Lee's work at CERN.
You still don't understand the difference between the web and the net, do you?
The net is a superset of the web, you twit. NNTP and SMTP are not the "web".
Go away unless you've more to offer than repeating what I said with irrelevant and self-contradictory ad hominem garbage tacked on.
This doesn't make any sense at all. Do you even know what ad-hominem attacks are? Holy shit you're dumb. Keep using AC access, its probably the safest bet for twits like yourself.
I agree, the first thing the US did as a nation was to separate the blacks and the whites.
Fact: the US has more citizens incarcerated for violent crimes per capita than any other industrialized nation. Oops, correct, about five times.
As it stands, most of the European nations have crime rates far lower than even the safest US states.
This is why the KKK has always been in favor of gun control (along with public education).
This is tantamount to invoking Hitler/Nazis as a straw-man couter-argument. Under Godwin's law, you lose.
Fact: That's a pretentious way of talking around the fact that you have no rights as men or as citizens. The truth is that British citizens are subjects of the Queen,
The Queen has the same symbolic role as Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. Don't kid yourself into thinking the US doesn't have royalty that is worshipped in the same pathetic way as the Windsors.
Fact: European tax rates vary between 70% and 90%
Next year when you're in grade eleven, you'll learn all about serious research, and all of this will be a distant memory.
Evidently you don't - the article refers to attacking core internet routers. This has essentially zilch to do with HTML/HTTP trials at CERN.
It's time to privatize the architecture of the Web. It's time to start over with something done on time and under budget, the way private enterprise can and must do things because of its very nature.
Thankfully you had the common sense to post this trash as an AC - your comments are completely uninformed. The internet was the creation of big government planning and spending.
"You" should try reading the news more often - a major record company is set to purchase a huge chain of radio stations right now. Who needs payola?
How quickly we forget what times were like 20 or 30 years ago. The record industry didn't give people what they wanted, 20 or 30 years ago. They wanted more of the same. We gave them something different, and some disliked it, just like some dislike the music of today.
Pass this through a demoronizer and come back when you have something cohesive to say.
What utter bullshit. The music companies don't cater to listeners tastes - if that were the case, there would be much more variety and far less crap.
No, "you" to divine what the "target demographic" is and then you manufacture a product that is intentionally mediocore enough that it does not musically offend anyone, and is only useful enough to maybe get the drooling masses to come back to the trough the next time, in some bizarre pavlovian response. Case in point is Britney Spears and NSync and the rest of this sheer garbage which is exceedingly worse than even top 40 music from twenty years ago. "You" have eliminated risk by eliminating variety. "You" are now entering into radio station ownership deals to ensure that the distribution channels force your manufactured crap on the public whether they like it or not.
This is why people are taking matters into their own hands and putting "you" out of the editing and selection biz.
Putting "England" as an answer is about the equivalent of putting in "Scotland", "Wales" or "Cornwall".
I believe even the term "Great Britain" is no longer binding as it does not encompass N. Ireland.
I don't see whats so funny about your post - it only means that moderators know as little Geography as you.