Until your local carpet python gets in there and dies like happened to me. Never noticed a difference in the taste but god did I gag when I found its rotting body....
The main plants in SEQ never got turned on. One of the things that makes me angry. If those plants had been turned on then we could have lowered the level in wivenhoe to 50% and we would never have had the 2010 floods.
Same as the Toowoomba plant. They built a full recycling system there and the politicians chickened out and put turning it on to a referendum. Stupid Stupid Stupid. So that system is now a total loss as well.
Waste water from the gold coast and Brisbane is fed to two Advanced Water Treatment Plants at Beenleigh and then it is piped to a larger plant at Bundamba before being put into Wivenhoe dam. Wivenhoe is the primary drinking water storage for Brisbane.
That said it was all built in the mid 2000s when it looked like we were going to completely run out of water. They also built a large desal plant at Tugan. None of these systems are currently turned on as it then started to rain lots to the point we got seriously flooded in 2010.
That isn't quite correct. Membrane style water treatment systems do remove the vast majority of medications. Also commonly referred to as Reverse Osmosis plants the process they use is exceptional at removing everything bar the water itself.
The problems come from where the treatment approach is purely using chlorination to sterilise the water. This obviously removes nothing.
So it's actually the opposite way around from what you have said. Older chlorination style systems don't remove the medication but modern RO plants do. And essentially RO is the way to go if you are building a plant.
I remember that story. From what I remember that water was supposedly on the clean side of the treatment process. What I don't understand is how they stopped birds crapping in it (spoiler - they didn't).
They shouldn't. Modern clean water treatment plants with effective odour control tanks and sludge processing techniques should really have much of a scent.
Even WWTP are reasonable clean smelling these days.
Where do people think their water comes from? Dependent on your location it is either pulled from a dam / river / ocean which has shit, corpses (animal and human), bacteria and all sorts of nasties or it comes from a waste water treatment plant after the solid waste has been removed.
The process is the same, ram the water under pressure against a membrane. Water goes through, other stuff doesn't. The biggest challenge is actually the medication that goes into the waste water system. It generally means that the solid waste that is removed by your treatment plant can't be used directly without additional treatment.
Stories you will NEVER read in the Australian press. "Mum dies in Coles after toddler accidentally shoots her with the gun in her handbag" "8 year old dies while shooting an UZI at a fair"
I will agree that gun laws are not the sole solution to gun deaths or crime. The US has some serious social problems that contribute massively to the problem, if you have nothing to lose you will take bigger risks. But having so many weapons in the hands of people that are just either stupid or ignorant of basic safety does.
More than 1 person? The driver gets out of the truck? I haven't seen that here in 20 years! Here the truck drives along the street, has a big mechanical arm that reaches out, grabs the bin and empties it into the truck.
As I said it has been like that for at least 20 years.
Maybe. I have a very skewed upbringing as everyone in my family was expected to be able to fix things. My sister even has her own complete set of basic workshop tools which my dad gave to her after he had them anodised pink (socket set, pliers, screwdrivers, & spanners).
I grew up believing that changing an oil & filter was a basic skill. Kind of like being able to change a light bulb. It wasn't until I was in my 20s that I realised that wasn't the case.
You must live somewhere dry. Water and electrical points systems have left me stranded a couple of times. (Admittedly this has always been on a motorcycle)
Not really. Assuming you have had a breakdown as a result of a points failure or timing slipping due to a loosening screw you aren't going to fix it on the side of the road.
Lets work through this. Your vehicle stops for no apparent reason, or drops a cylinder and no longer has the power to move forward. You are conveniently somewhere safe and unlikely to be run over so you can get started of diagnosing the problem. Assuming your system is as basic as possible these are the MINIMUM steps you would have to go through. Assuming you have checked fuses etc first.
Step 1. Engines not running are usually 1 of two problems - fuel or spark (if it's not one of those you are essentially screwed anyway). So which is it? If I dropped a cylinder rather than just dead stopping I can spit on each exhaust manifold to see which one isn't as hot as the others. If it is 1, chances are it's a spark plug, if it's 2 look further up the system. Either way though the next step is to take out the spark plug, rest it on the engine and see if you have a spark. Tools needed, spark plug spanner. If you are in a car at this point you need an assistant to see if you have a spark cause you can't do that while turning the key, if you are on a motorcycle you can still do this yourself (if you could get the spark plugs out without dismantling the whole bike that is).
Step 2a - you have no spark. Stick finger in HV lead and turn ignition. Be unable to decide if you want to get whacked by the voltage or not. Don't get whacked. Ok so it is electrical. But you have no way of telling if it is coil, distributor, points, or bad connections. Check distributor cap, looks fine, coils not melted, open points cover, looks ok? Maybe if you are lucky you can see that a point arm has broken, or welded - outcome no going anywhere.
Step 2b. You have sparks on all 4 plugs. So the next assumption has to be fuel. Disconnect the fuel main line from your injector manifold or carb. Minimum tool, Phillips head. Turn on ignition, does fuel come out under pressure from the fuel pump? Yes. Refit main line. Real bitch to do without pliers. If it's a carbed car hit the bottom of the float bowls just incase a float has stuck. Also if it is carbed you probably want to drop the fuel out of the bowls in case you had water in the fuel. ring spanner
Step 3. Have spark, have fuel. Now what? The problems it could be have just moved from the simple to the really really hard. Check coolant for bubbles or white deposits - nope so not a cracked head. Stick hand over exhaust pipe - does it push hand off? Yep so I have compression. Engine is turning over and not sounding like bolts in a blender so I probably haven't dropped a valve. WTF could it be. OK by some inspiration I decide it is timing.
Step 4 - chasing the timing. First I need to be able to see the flywheel or some other mark to determine TDC. At the very least that is under a cover, probably held in by either allen keys or bolts - so socket set. Now I crank the engine to tdc. BIG ASS socket on a BIG ASS bar needed to turn engine over.
Ah forget it. I'm covered in grime, frustrated as fuck. All I can smell is petrol, it's pitch black and I have been here for HOURS. Hello tow truck, can you come and get me please.
Electronic ignition fails, mechanical ignition fails. On the side of the road it really don't matter which one died.
This is a terrible article. Seriously it is a press release for this company and it says NOTHING. Not only does is say nothing it is full of blatant crap.
Since when does your light bulb and your sensors in ANY WAY contribute to what you OS is?!??!?!?
I'm really at a loss of where to go for what Slashdot used to be. Soilent news isn't there yet. I must be dumb because I can't figure reddit out.
I still come here and every now and again there is something good. But it's getting less and less.
Have a look at what happened in Australia regarding Game of Thrones. The most recent season was purchased by foxtel as an all formats exclusive. So even iTunes started blocking Aussie users from buying GoT.
Basically if you wanted to watch GoT in Australia you needed a minimum of a $75 per month contract with Foxtel. What actually happened was it set new records for people downloading it from torrents.
The points system is mechanically simple. It is also one of THE most horrible systems in the world to get working nicely. I have never been a smoker but points are a reason I always kept a packet of tally-ho cigarette papers. You put the paper in the point and then slowly advance then engine till you can pull the paper out. Ok that is where you are going to get your spark. Ok now that is 70 degrees out, lets take the whole thing apart and start again......
First thing I do on any restoration project is unscrew the points assembly, wash it, dry it, spray it with a lubricant, put it in a zip lock bag. And then replace it with an electronic ignition system.
I restore old motorcycles which means parts are generally not available at all. So you have to fix what you have. JB weld is the saviour of sooooo many plastic tanks that have cracked.
Alternatively I often build replacements for plastics out of fibreglass. Mud guards and bodywork panels in particular.
As for the original premise of this article I think there is a grain of truth in it. I know a lot of people around my age (mid 30s) that don't know how to change the oil & filter on their car. Or are too scared to attempt it. But they also don't have the easily disposable income to pay someone else to do it so their car doesn't get serviced at all.
That said my father comes from the camp of everything is fixable and will spend way more time then something is worth to get it going again. I find that a hard habit to break.
Surprisingly there is not a one size fits all solution for laying out peoples work environments!
Believe it or not there are some jobs where open plan offices are significantly better than cube farms or closed personal offices. And there are jobs where half way setups, ie small open plan offices of teams work better than large spaces or singular offices.
If you are in a sales role then open plan works a large amount of the time. If you are in a role where you are primarily focussed on your screen and writing something then smaller offices tend to work better.
If you can realise that not everyone's job is even similar, let alone the same, you will be able to understand that different layout will suit some more than others.
They could patent surge pricing during terrorist or hostage activities.
Uber managed to get some bad press here in Australia when their price went up to $100 for a callout to get out of Sydney when the guy took hostages in the Lindt Cafe there.
Seriously! Let the blood back into the brain your tin foil hat it killing you!
This is EXISTING legislation. AND the proposed changes tighten the definitions in most cases. Firstly they are removing the prohibition on talking to someone about it, now you actually have to supply the documentation or the item. Another is to allow a project to have the ability to release information not just an individual.
The publishing rule is being narrowed to be publishing only in direct contravention of a restriction or if something is specifically listed.
They have narrowed the brokering offence to only part 1 of the DSGL which are military use only items and changing brokering dual use items an offence only if you do it negligently or recklessly and the items will be used for WMD.
So rather than doing a Chicken Little, how about you stop making yourself look like an idiot and read.
You could build it. It would just be crazy expensive and experimental. Pump stations require power and have moving parts that will corrode. To use tidal power would require you to design and build something never done before.
As for the density or fresh vs salt, yes fresh is less dense than salt but they are blocked from interacting by the wall of the pipe so I'm not sure how you would use their interaction to drive something.
The Gold Coast Desal plant is a 125ML RO plant and the brine is returned to the ocean. Testing has shown that you can't detect the increased salt content when more than 20m from the outlet pipe.
The biggest problem with people who think it will increase salinity of the oceans is their inability to grasp the scale of the ocean vs what is removed.
Not really. A modern RO plant will produce 1m3 of water for 3-3.5 kw/h of electricity.
As for nuclear plants desalinating water - all the systems I am aware of are the combination of the power plant and the desal plant in 1 complex. It is still two different systems so the only advantage is avoiding electrical transmission loss over having a nuclear plant somewhere else.
Technologically the plant designs are almost identical. Both are a reverse osmosis design using pressurised water driven up against a membrane. Modern desal plants are actually quite energy efficient, just not as efficient as AWT plants. And the only reason AWT plants are more efficient is that the input water actually has less impurities than salt water.
The other benefit of AWT plants is you get high nutrient biosolids from it that you can then use as fertiliser. Note this is ONLY the case if the AWT sits down stream from a standard waste water plant. If it doesn't and you do an all in 1 process the solids are contaminated with nasty stuff from the medicines we consume which means it is restricted in its use.
You would either need to have floating pump stations along the way or a MASSIVE pump at the beginning to push the water through. If you tried to do it with 1 pump you would also need a ridiculously strong pipe to handle the pressure you would need at the start.
You would also put yourself at serious risk of pressure shocks passing through the system if you had problems at either end.
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Until your local carpet python gets in there and dies like happened to me. Never noticed a difference in the taste but god did I gag when I found its rotting body....
The main plants in SEQ never got turned on. One of the things that makes me angry. If those plants had been turned on then we could have lowered the level in wivenhoe to 50% and we would never have had the 2010 floods.
Same as the Toowoomba plant. They built a full recycling system there and the politicians chickened out and put turning it on to a referendum. Stupid Stupid Stupid. So that system is now a total loss as well.
There is a large setup in South East Queensland.
Waste water from the gold coast and Brisbane is fed to two Advanced Water Treatment Plants at Beenleigh and then it is piped to a larger plant at Bundamba before being put into Wivenhoe dam. Wivenhoe is the primary drinking water storage for Brisbane.
That said it was all built in the mid 2000s when it looked like we were going to completely run out of water. They also built a large desal plant at Tugan. None of these systems are currently turned on as it then started to rain lots to the point we got seriously flooded in 2010.
That isn't quite correct. Membrane style water treatment systems do remove the vast majority of medications. Also commonly referred to as Reverse Osmosis plants the process they use is exceptional at removing everything bar the water itself.
The problems come from where the treatment approach is purely using chlorination to sterilise the water. This obviously removes nothing.
So it's actually the opposite way around from what you have said. Older chlorination style systems don't remove the medication but modern RO plants do. And essentially RO is the way to go if you are building a plant.
I remember that story. From what I remember that water was supposedly on the clean side of the treatment process. What I don't understand is how they stopped birds crapping in it (spoiler - they didn't).
They shouldn't. Modern clean water treatment plants with effective odour control tanks and sludge processing techniques should really have much of a scent.
Even WWTP are reasonable clean smelling these days.
Where do people think their water comes from? Dependent on your location it is either pulled from a dam / river / ocean which has shit, corpses (animal and human), bacteria and all sorts of nasties or it comes from a waste water treatment plant after the solid waste has been removed.
The process is the same, ram the water under pressure against a membrane. Water goes through, other stuff doesn't. The biggest challenge is actually the medication that goes into the waste water system. It generally means that the solid waste that is removed by your treatment plant can't be used directly without additional treatment.
I wish I had mod points today.
Stories you will NEVER read in the Australian press.
"Mum dies in Coles after toddler accidentally shoots her with the gun in her handbag"
"8 year old dies while shooting an UZI at a fair"
I will agree that gun laws are not the sole solution to gun deaths or crime. The US has some serious social problems that contribute massively to the problem, if you have nothing to lose you will take bigger risks. But having so many weapons in the hands of people that are just either stupid or ignorant of basic safety does.
More than 1 person? The driver gets out of the truck? I haven't seen that here in 20 years! Here the truck drives along the street, has a big mechanical arm that reaches out, grabs the bin and empties it into the truck.
As I said it has been like that for at least 20 years.
Maybe. I have a very skewed upbringing as everyone in my family was expected to be able to fix things. My sister even has her own complete set of basic workshop tools which my dad gave to her after he had them anodised pink (socket set, pliers, screwdrivers, & spanners).
I grew up believing that changing an oil & filter was a basic skill. Kind of like being able to change a light bulb. It wasn't until I was in my 20s that I realised that wasn't the case.
You must live somewhere dry. Water and electrical points systems have left me stranded a couple of times. (Admittedly this has always been on a motorcycle)
Not really. Assuming you have had a breakdown as a result of a points failure or timing slipping due to a loosening screw you aren't going to fix it on the side of the road.
Lets work through this. Your vehicle stops for no apparent reason, or drops a cylinder and no longer has the power to move forward. You are conveniently somewhere safe and unlikely to be run over so you can get started of diagnosing the problem. Assuming your system is as basic as possible these are the MINIMUM steps you would have to go through. Assuming you have checked fuses etc first.
Step 1. Engines not running are usually 1 of two problems - fuel or spark (if it's not one of those you are essentially screwed anyway). So which is it? If I dropped a cylinder rather than just dead stopping I can spit on each exhaust manifold to see which one isn't as hot as the others. If it is 1, chances are it's a spark plug, if it's 2 look further up the system. Either way though the next step is to take out the spark plug, rest it on the engine and see if you have a spark. Tools needed, spark plug spanner. If you are in a car at this point you need an assistant to see if you have a spark cause you can't do that while turning the key, if you are on a motorcycle you can still do this yourself (if you could get the spark plugs out without dismantling the whole bike that is).
Step 2a - you have no spark. Stick finger in HV lead and turn ignition. Be unable to decide if you want to get whacked by the voltage or not. Don't get whacked. Ok so it is electrical. But you have no way of telling if it is coil, distributor, points, or bad connections. Check distributor cap, looks fine, coils not melted, open points cover, looks ok? Maybe if you are lucky you can see that a point arm has broken, or welded - outcome no going anywhere.
Step 2b. You have sparks on all 4 plugs. So the next assumption has to be fuel. Disconnect the fuel main line from your injector manifold or carb. Minimum tool, Phillips head. Turn on ignition, does fuel come out under pressure from the fuel pump? Yes. Refit main line. Real bitch to do without pliers. If it's a carbed car hit the bottom of the float bowls just incase a float has stuck. Also if it is carbed you probably want to drop the fuel out of the bowls in case you had water in the fuel. ring spanner
Step 3. Have spark, have fuel. Now what? The problems it could be have just moved from the simple to the really really hard. Check coolant for bubbles or white deposits - nope so not a cracked head. Stick hand over exhaust pipe - does it push hand off? Yep so I have compression. Engine is turning over and not sounding like bolts in a blender so I probably haven't dropped a valve. WTF could it be. OK by some inspiration I decide it is timing.
Step 4 - chasing the timing. First I need to be able to see the flywheel or some other mark to determine TDC. At the very least that is under a cover, probably held in by either allen keys or bolts - so socket set. Now I crank the engine to tdc. BIG ASS socket on a BIG ASS bar needed to turn engine over.
Ah forget it. I'm covered in grime, frustrated as fuck. All I can smell is petrol, it's pitch black and I have been here for HOURS. Hello tow truck, can you come and get me please.
Electronic ignition fails, mechanical ignition fails. On the side of the road it really don't matter which one died.
I was replying to his car example and the usage case of JB Weld for a coolant bottle.
As for using it in a dish washer - any particular reason why you wouldn't? Other than that it is probably a bit of expensive overkill.
This is a terrible article. Seriously it is a press release for this company and it says NOTHING. Not only does is say nothing it is full of blatant crap.
Since when does your light bulb and your sensors in ANY WAY contribute to what you OS is?!??!?!?
I'm really at a loss of where to go for what Slashdot used to be. Soilent news isn't there yet. I must be dumb because I can't figure reddit out.
I still come here and every now and again there is something good. But it's getting less and less.
Have a look at what happened in Australia regarding Game of Thrones. The most recent season was purchased by foxtel as an all formats exclusive. So even iTunes started blocking Aussie users from buying GoT.
Basically if you wanted to watch GoT in Australia you needed a minimum of a $75 per month contract with Foxtel. What actually happened was it set new records for people downloading it from torrents.
UUURRRRGHHH Points...... KILL ME NOW!
The points system is mechanically simple. It is also one of THE most horrible systems in the world to get working nicely. I have never been a smoker but points are a reason I always kept a packet of tally-ho cigarette papers. You put the paper in the point and then slowly advance then engine till you can pull the paper out. Ok that is where you are going to get your spark. Ok now that is 70 degrees out, lets take the whole thing apart and start again......
First thing I do on any restoration project is unscrew the points assembly, wash it, dry it, spray it with a lubricant, put it in a zip lock bag. And then replace it with an electronic ignition system.
JB Weld is your friend for these types of jobs.
I restore old motorcycles which means parts are generally not available at all. So you have to fix what you have. JB weld is the saviour of sooooo many plastic tanks that have cracked.
Alternatively I often build replacements for plastics out of fibreglass. Mud guards and bodywork panels in particular.
As for the original premise of this article I think there is a grain of truth in it. I know a lot of people around my age (mid 30s) that don't know how to change the oil & filter on their car. Or are too scared to attempt it. But they also don't have the easily disposable income to pay someone else to do it so their car doesn't get serviced at all.
That said my father comes from the camp of everything is fixable and will spend way more time then something is worth to get it going again. I find that a hard habit to break.
Surprisingly there is not a one size fits all solution for laying out peoples work environments!
Believe it or not there are some jobs where open plan offices are significantly better than cube farms or closed personal offices. And there are jobs where half way setups, ie small open plan offices of teams work better than large spaces or singular offices.
If you are in a sales role then open plan works a large amount of the time. If you are in a role where you are primarily focussed on your screen and writing something then smaller offices tend to work better.
If you can realise that not everyone's job is even similar, let alone the same, you will be able to understand that different layout will suit some more than others.
They could patent surge pricing during terrorist or hostage activities.
Uber managed to get some bad press here in Australia when their price went up to $100 for a callout to get out of Sydney when the guy took hostages in the Lindt Cafe there.
Seriously! Let the blood back into the brain your tin foil hat it killing you!
This is EXISTING legislation. AND the proposed changes tighten the definitions in most cases. Firstly they are removing the prohibition on talking to someone about it, now you actually have to supply the documentation or the item. Another is to allow a project to have the ability to release information not just an individual.
The publishing rule is being narrowed to be publishing only in direct contravention of a restriction or if something is specifically listed.
They have narrowed the brokering offence to only part 1 of the DSGL which are military use only items and changing brokering dual use items an offence only if you do it negligently or recklessly and the items will be used for WMD.
So rather than doing a Chicken Little, how about you stop making yourself look like an idiot and read.
You could build it. It would just be crazy expensive and experimental. Pump stations require power and have moving parts that will corrode. To use tidal power would require you to design and build something never done before.
As for the density or fresh vs salt, yes fresh is less dense than salt but they are blocked from interacting by the wall of the pipe so I'm not sure how you would use their interaction to drive something.
I will add to point 2.
The Gold Coast Desal plant is a 125ML RO plant and the brine is returned to the ocean. Testing has shown that you can't detect the increased salt content when more than 20m from the outlet pipe.
The biggest problem with people who think it will increase salinity of the oceans is their inability to grasp the scale of the ocean vs what is removed.
Not really. A modern RO plant will produce 1m3 of water for 3-3.5 kw/h of electricity.
As for nuclear plants desalinating water - all the systems I am aware of are the combination of the power plant and the desal plant in 1 complex. It is still two different systems so the only advantage is avoiding electrical transmission loss over having a nuclear plant somewhere else.
Technologically the plant designs are almost identical. Both are a reverse osmosis design using pressurised water driven up against a membrane. Modern desal plants are actually quite energy efficient, just not as efficient as AWT plants. And the only reason AWT plants are more efficient is that the input water actually has less impurities than salt water.
The other benefit of AWT plants is you get high nutrient biosolids from it that you can then use as fertiliser. Note this is ONLY the case if the AWT sits down stream from a standard waste water plant. If it doesn't and you do an all in 1 process the solids are contaminated with nasty stuff from the medicines we consume which means it is restricted in its use.
Better option - recycled waste water - cheaper easier and has less maintenance issues that desal.
Not is the simple answer.
You would either need to have floating pump stations along the way or a MASSIVE pump at the beginning to push the water through. If you tried to do it with 1 pump you would also need a ridiculously strong pipe to handle the pressure you would need at the start.
You would also put yourself at serious risk of pressure shocks passing through the system if you had problems at either end.