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Ask Tick Creator Ben Edlund

The non-cartoon Tick debuted on Fox last night, so this is an ideal time to have Tick creator Ben Edlund as a Slashdot interview guest. Before you start typing, you may want to read this May 2000 interview with Ben to keep from duplicating questions and to see what kind of person he is. Then ask away. As usual, we'll send 10 of the highest-moderated questions to Ben, and publish his answers as soon as we get them back.

298 comments

  1. copyright issues? by turbine216 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    now that we're all aware of the still-pending copyright issues between Sony and Fox concerning certain Tick characters and trademarks ("Spoon!"), is there any hope in sight for a resolution that would allow the use of these copyrights? Or is this a totally dead issue?

    1. Re:copyright issues? by _Mustang · · Score: 1

      being that there exists

      still-pending copyright issues between Sony and Fox concerning certain Tick characters and trademarks ("Spoon!")

      this begins to look like having a "Superman" television show where he doesn't have a cape on while "in action". That is to say, it's mostly but not - *there*.

      How do you cope with losing vital elements that made this such an amusing world, while the suits battle it out over copyright issues?

    2. Re:copyright issues? by Golias · · Score: 1
      All of the stuff from the original Tick comic that Edlund drew, including Aurther, Chairface, "Spoon!", Ninja World, Paul the Samurai, The Civic Minded Five, The Chainsaw Vigilante etc... all of it, is fair game to be used.

      The only stuff that they can't bring into the live show is the stuff that was created for the cartoon, like that lame-assed sewer guy who talked like Rainman.

      No vital elements were lost. None. So take a deep breath, count to ten, and enjoy the new show for what it is.

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    3. Re:copyright issues? by AndroidCat · · Score: 2

      So we've had a few heroes renamed. Are we going to lose any villans?

      I have "I'm the evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight! HAHAHA!" as my "You've got mail" sound. This causes talk. :^)

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    4. Re:copyright issues? by pyrrho · · Score: 1

      I have stolen the persona of the mad bomber what bombs at midnight and turned it into an oft used handle and persona "mad coder what codes at midnight".

      "do you do the gimiks" I asked him, "yeah," he saysbaby.

      My question: are you going to sue me if you ever find out?

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    5. Re:copyright issues? by caldodge · · Score: 1
      >The only stuff that they can't bring into the live show is the stuff that was created for the cartoon,

      >like that lame-assed sewer guy who talked like Rainman.


      You'll eat your words when a sewer lobster waves its wallet-shaped lure at you.

    6. Re:copyright issues? by caldodge · · Score: 1

      mea culpa - the sewer lobster and wallet angler were different creatures (it's been TOO long since I've seen any "Tick" episodes).

  2. Drugs? by FortKnox · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What type of drugs/alcohol were you high on when you created the character and premise of the tick? ;-)

    Also, is the tick more of a boxer, brief, or boxer-brief man?

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    1. Re:Drugs? by sharkey · · Score: 2

      Also, is the tick more of a boxer, brief, or boxer-brief man?

      Or perhaps he fits into the "none" category.

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    2. Re:Drugs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We were eating rotisserie chicken.
      --B.E.

    3. Re:Drugs? by Bob+The+Cowboy · · Score: 1

      The Tick goes commando, baby.

      Well, not really... he's wearing his "underwear"... its a big blue jumpsuit

      Bill

    4. Re:Drugs? by AtaruMoroboshi · · Score: 2, Insightful


      I really hate this kind of thinking. Why do people always assume that really creative people use drugs to get their creativity?

      Clive Barker doesn't use any mind altering substances and he writes the freakest shit. David Cronenburg isn't exactly who you think of as a drug user, but his imagination is like no other.

      Even rampant drug users like Richard D. James (aphex twin) says that he doesn't create while high because it all comes out like garbage.

      Creativity is often best served by a clear head.

      however, the boxer's question is really important. :)

    5. Re:Drugs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's simple. All the non-creative art hack/druggies always wonder what the magic "creative drug" is.

      Suckers!

    6. Re:Drugs? by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 2

      Tis' true. The greatest "creativity drug" is sweat.

    7. Re:Drugs? by OmegaDan · · Score: 2

      he's definatley a cod-piece kinda guy. (to use the english word, Im not sure what the american word is :)

    8. Re:Drugs? by sharkey · · Score: 2

      Codpiece is perfectly understandable to me anyway. You could also say "cup", the piece of hard plastic or metal you slip into the pocket of an athletic supporter (jock-strap).

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  3. Where did you get the idea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    So, enlighten us. Where did you even get
    the idea of 'the tick', and all the other wierd
    superheros and villains you have?

  4. Available in Europe? by tdye · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As an American and a fan living overseas, will this show be available on any UK/Irish stations? Where might I see it if I'm living in Ireland?

  5. Which RPG? by Dane_Johnson · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I read some time ago that, at a convention, you had admitted that The Tick started out as a character in a Superhero Role Playing Game. Of course, they failed to say (or perhaps you didn't tell them) which game! So which was it? Champions? V&V? Superworld? Marvel Super Heroes? Do any of the other "standard" Tick Universe characters come from the game? Do you still play?

    1. Re:Which RPG? by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      I'd hazzard a guess, by way of explanation... I didn't play a lot of RPGs, (possibly because) I was one of those who took characters lightly. Actually so lightly, in an effort to liven up what seemed more dead-serious than a full scale financial audit, that I probably wasn't entirely welcome to play again, if ever. Tho, I must say, the idea of an Orc with a half dozen arrows protruding from his back and attempting to crawl through a mob of vigilantes, under cover of a overturned row boat, still seems rather humorous in some way. ("Hey, he's got a 5 Int, what do you expect, Zorro?")

      Possibly similar inspiration led to the creation of the Tick and other 'Heroes'

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    2. Re:Which RPG? by _Mustang · · Score: 1

      I tend to agree with you, that some people forget the idea of an RPG is to loosen up and have fun.

      Reminds me of a character I once had for AD&D (I think that was the system anyway)..Played him as a total psyco, very accurately for his alignment and such. During one "adventure" I had him take a whiz out over the balustrade/windows in the ruler's castle during a war meeting - right on to the heads of passing peasants..

      Now THAT gave the dm/gm some real interesting material to work with..

    3. Re:Which RPG? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was Marvel Super heros - the one where the ratings had words associated with them like "150=Incredible", "200=Monsterous" & "1000=Unearthly".

      This is partly the reason for the term "Nigh-Invunerable" It was a joke in the gaming group for a bit that "Nigh" indicated a ability score 1 point short of max. One of the group members effectively seemed to finagle at least one stat like this for each of his characters in his characteristic rules-lawyer, power-gaming style. He would defend this hard-core manipulation of the rules by saying "His stats aren't maxed-out, he's a playable character" He couldn't seem to understand that a character with such a trump card was kinda boring to play along with, or DM for. (this is why, ultimately, Batman or Spiderman is more interesting than Superman. I could go into why this is an illustration of why power-focused, money-driven types tend to have a tin-ear for aesthetics, but I'll leave that for another time.)

      Once this guy was in a middle of defending one of these characters to the DM and said :

      "What? he can still be hit - he's not completely invunerable!"

      Ben responded a bit exasperatedly:

      "No - he's Nigh-invunerable!"

      Then we all went on a riff about where it should be on the stat chart, what existing superheros had the stat, including details such as whether or not such a character could cut his hair, "were his turds just as invunerable?" etc. Then into other tangents regarding stats like "Nigh-pitiful", "Nigh-average", etc.

      By the end of it the player saw the light to some degree, or at least realized that persisting with such a character was a less attractive option. He had the rules on his side, but the sanction of parody won that particular day. (And the moral is ....yada, yada, eh - nevermind. stop me before I moralize again!)

      A true story? If it's not it ought to be.

  6. What were your inspirations? by wrinkledshirt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    First of all, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this soliloquay:

    "So the mustache was in love. Oh, that's cool. Love is cool. That mustache is cool. But it didn't make me cool. It made Sewer Urchin swing ten miles by his upper lip!"

    "And look at Jim Rave. He should have been cool. He had a cool eye patch, cool RV, cool gadgets, and he traveled the world with three vivacious, exciting, talented beauticians. That's cool! But he wasn't cool."

    "You know, Arthur, I may have lost my mustache, but I've gained... heh... I haven't gained a thing."

    As for the question... Comic book hero farce as a genre doesn't exactly have a huge tradition. Where did you draw most of your inspiration from?

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  7. Timeslot by ReadbackMonkey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What evil Fox executive stuck you in such a lethal timeslot? Why didn't they slot you behind the Simpson's then move you to the lethal Thursday timeslot?

    I had to fight with my girlfriend to watch the show last night since 'Will and Grace' was on.

    1. Re:Timeslot by bman08 · · Score: 1

      luckily will and grace was a rerun. it's the only reason I won that battle.

    2. Re:Timeslot by Mezzrow · · Score: 1

      I had to tape it for my friend. And he has a TIVO! His wife was Taping survivor and watching friends during that slot.
      Brutal.

    3. Re:Timeslot by Tower · · Score: 1

      Well, as Thursdays go, following The Family guy is pretty good... right before Temptation Island 2 might be good in some estimations...

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    4. Re:Timeslot by Bob+The+Cowboy · · Score: 1
      What evil Fox executive stuck you in such a lethal timeslot? Why didn't they slot you behind the Simpson's then move you to the lethal Thursday timeslot?


      And will this evil doer make an appearance on an upcoming episode? The Tick vs. Upper Management ?

      Bill
  8. When do we get to see speak!! by iamcroaker · · Score: 1

    Where is that rodent!

  9. Ninjas? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Why didn't we have a million zillion ninjas in the cartoon? That gag can't possibly be played out, yet.

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    1. Re:Ninjas? by ThatComputerGuy · · Score: 1

      You apparently don't remember Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

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  10. Why? by jmccay · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why do a live version when the cartoon series didn't last that long?

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    1. Re:Why? by FatherOfONe · · Score: 3, Interesting

      great question. I have to add that my wife hates most cartoons and liked the cartoon of the tick. We use to laugh at most of the stuff. However, her quote last night after watching the show.
      "I didn't laugh", I sadly agreed. It just wasn't funny. I hope that they get better.

      My hope for future epsiodes...
      1. Be less edgey, the tick would have NEVER said "BITCH". Unfortunately, that comment alone probably killed a lot of familes from watching it.

      2. Don't cram the hispanic mouse guys love of women down our throats.

      And yes I realize that most of the episodes have allready been shot...

      Just my 2 cents...

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    2. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I thought it was hilarious. Funny funny stuff.


      What was the quote? Reliquish your brown liquidy goodness man calls coffee!...great writing. I felt i was in a Kevin Smith movie.



      BTW...since when is FOX a family channel?

    3. Re:Why? by Mr.+Quick · · Score: 1

      if i had mod points... i'd give them to you...

    4. Re:Why? by Tackhead · · Score: 2
      > 1. Be less edgey, the tick would have NEVER said "BITCH". Unfortunately, that comment alone probably killed a lot of familes from watching it.

      Hmph. I spewed coffee all over myself when I heard that. Methinks they know the Tick's core audience (rabid cult fans such as those likely to post to /.) very well.

    5. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sadly I have to agree. It was a __huge__ disappointment. Warburton was playing it waaay to broad, the "humor" felt contrived, the timing of the story was choppy, the structure sketchy, the jokes lame.

      I smiled once. "Don't squeeze his head." Okay, that was funny, but really it was pretty bad.

    6. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      1. The Tick was always edgy. Foul language was rare in the comic, but used on occation.

      The cartoon you know it by is a *very* watered-down version of The Tick, intended to be watched by small children.

      2. The hispanic guy loves the senioritas! (That's comedy gold!)

    7. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry, but what ISN'T funny about a murderous communist robot from the late 70's chasing Jimmy Carter? That and the not-magic hubcap sealed the deal.

      This was a secret message....from your teeth.

    8. Re:Why? by AndroidCat · · Score: 2

      Even The Big Guy and Rusty snuck some stuff in, like the time Rusty was fighting the Legion Ex Machina and said "Looks like #2 just hit the fan".

      I love things like that because both the adults and the kids can pretend that they didn't notice it. :^)

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    9. Re:Why? by tuxguy_ga · · Score: 1

      Why not. The cartoon series is/was based on a comic book series that has only 12 issues. Ben says he will do the 13 issue when he gets the time... Still waiting..

    10. Re:Why? by carlos_benj · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, that comment alone probably killed a lot of familes from watching it.

      Even more unfortunate is that the comment wasn't alone. As FatherOfThree I was disappointed at the downward turn and don't really understand why the dialog can't be funny without it. There were things in the cartoon that cracked my entire family up (well, mom didn't get it...). Not that The Tick is some paragon of family values, but the cartoon held this adult's attention without the baggage that makes the live version unsuitable for family viewing (Actually, if it's not suitable for family viewing, I don't watch even when the family's not around. Seems hypocritical to me. Kind of like smoking but telling the kids not to.)

      Anyhow.... was this a result of FOX's desire to "push the envelope" (when I watch COPS I think it's hilarious that there's a "not suitable" disclaimer for the show when it's usually not as vulgar or violent as the promos for other FOX shows) or does it represent a direction you would have taken the cartoon given a prime time slot? (I don't know if the comic book dialog was closer to the live action or the animated though.)

      Other than that aspect, much of the dialog kept that absurdity I was hoping for, I thought the costumes were great, I didn't even mind that two of my favorite regulars had been transmogrified into Batmanuel and Captain Liberty (OK, that one doesn't seem to have the potential of American Maid flinging deadly stiletto heels as "secret" weapon). The moving antennae were great, Arthur's wings..... Patrick Warburton IS The Tick, I'm convinced.

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    11. Re:Why? by Angry+Toad · · Score: 1

      I think it could have worked. Clearly it did work for lots of people, and bully for them.


      All the same Warburton's take on the Great Blue One really irritated me. He Mugged. Relentlessly.


      I mean, I'm sorry, but a man in a huge blue rubber tick suit is inherently ridiculous. There's just no reason to constantly emphasize, "Hey, look how silly I am.". The only way to make it work is to go completely straight. That's where the conflict comes in that would make it funny. The Tick takes himself with utmost seriousness, and what Warburton was doing (I thought) made it seem like The Tick was in on the joke. He can't be.


      I also found the whole Batmanuel/Libery-Woman-Or-Whatever thing really irritating. Relentlessly horny couples are the stock-in-trade of bad sitcom writers. I just expected better. I'm totally in tune with the idea of a communist robot stalking Jimmy Carter, but the execution left me cold.


  11. Are you satisfied? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Are you satisfied with the finished product of the live action Tick? I was a huge fan of both the comic and the cartoon series and am sure that if you can keep up the quality of dialog and acting you had in last night's episode that I'll be glued to it as well. But the differences between the three are immense...especially in the humour department (for example, my favorite joke from the comic was "We are hedge. Move along." which probably wouldn't work in either the cartoon or the live action). Do you, as the characters' creator and a comic artist, find yourself looking at the finished product and saying, "yes, that's what I see when the Tick jumps along the rooftops of my dreams?" Which of the three incarnations is your favorite?

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  12. Why the change? by Jaycatt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I noticed that Deflator Mouse and American Maid had been changed to Batman-uel and "Captain Liberty". Why the change from the animated series? Those characters and their rivalry were a great side story, and to use similar characters but have them deeply in love with one another seems like a major switch.

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    1. Re:Why the change? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's "Die Fliedermaus" (German for bat). But I think Batmanuel was still pretty funny. Captain Liberty needs some work.

    2. Re:Why the change? by Wrexs0ul · · Score: 0

      I always thought it was both actually. Die Fledermaus (sp?) is German, but Deflator mouse I figured worked alot better into what happened whenever a fight came around... he's always the first one to give an excuse to leave :)

      -Wrexsoul

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    3. Re:Why the change? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is a rights issue. When The Tick was animated Sony got shared rights and when they went to do the live-action, Sony was a difficult negotiator, so they swapped out the characters.

    4. Re:Why the change? by elmegil · · Score: 1

      If this gets submitted, please spare us all a lot of embarassment and spell Die Fliedermaus correctly...(and double check that I got the ie in Fliedermaus in the right order too)

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    5. Re:Why the change? by czardonic · · Score: 1

      Never having paid much attention to the Tick, the jokes were new to me. "Batmanuel" was the first laugh I got out of the show. Too bad they changed "American Maid," that would have been the second. "Captain Liberty" just plain sucks.

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    6. Re:Why the change? by Rick+the+Red · · Score: 3, Informative
      have[ing] [Bat Manuel and Captain Liberty] deeply in love with one another seems like a major switch.

      Did you watch the same show I watched? They clearly are not deeply in love -- she broke his arm when he tried to reach "Third Base"! They are definately in lust, but she despises him and he only wants her for her body. He just wants all women for their bodies, which is probably why she despises him. I thought the two characters were good, although Bat Manuel's mask sucks. Was that painted on with mascara?

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    7. Re:Why the change? by unclei · · Score: 2, Informative

      The correct spelling is "die Fledermaus", and as other posters have pointed out, it means "the bat" in german. I also was dissapointed that his name was changed as well. I suspect it was changed to something more easily understood by most viewers...probably not a whole lot of the target audience are fans of the operas of Johann Strauss or speak german. The American Maid --> Captain Liberty thing has got me beat. American Maid was much funnier in my opinion. Perhaps they thought "American Maid" was too sexist for prime time?

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    8. Re:Why the change? by Chibi · · Score: 1

      This is actually a copyright issue (Fox has the rights to these characters), so I don't think this question should be submitted to Ben.

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    9. Re:Why the change? by Count · · Score: 1

      If you watched the cartoon there was some very funny refrences to a past love between Die Fletormousen and American Maid. To me the cartton was just so funny I don't know if the live action can do it justice. We will see

    10. Re:Why the change? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The part I missed the most is the theme music of the Tick. I am surprised that no one mentioned that.

    11. Re:Why the change? by Golias · · Score: 3, Informative
      How did your straw-grasping guesswork get modded up as "informative"!?

      It is common knowledge to those who followed the development of the series that the new Tick show can only re-use characters from the original comic book. The characters made for the cartoon series (like Die Fledermaus and American Maid) can't be used. Ben Edlund obviously liked the dynamic of the characters, so he created similar ones with different names. Mystery solved.

      But your theory about how they feared that a prime time audience would lack the sophistication of saturday morning cartoon watchers was certainly amusing.

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    12. Re:Why the change? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Gawd... I am getting tired of people wondering if the live-action knock-off can do justice to the cartoon knock-off.

      THE CARTOON SERIES WAS A PALE REFLECTION OF THE TICK!!!

      The original Edlund/Polio/Suarez comics were The Tick. Nearly all of the best material in the cartoon was the stuff that was lifted directly from the pages of that comic. The angry buildings... the rooftop jumping... the "CHA" on the moon surface... the diner from Boulevard of Broken Dreams... the city known as The City... it was all just a recycle of the vastly superior comic book.

      The cartoon reminded me of a review Dr. Samuel Johnson once gave.

      "Your manuscript is both good and original, but the part that is good is not original and the part that is orignal is not good."
    13. Re:Why the change? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bat-manuel is the funniest thing ever ...
      the biggest improvement over the cartoon

  13. Maneating Cow by ReadbackMonkey · · Score: 1

    Was the Man-eating Cow changed to Apocalypse Cow? I was really hoping to see some Man-eating cow in future episodes...

    1. Re:Maneating Cow by ZahrGnosis · · Score: 1

      Unlikely; Apocalypse Cow had flame jetting out of some orifices; Man-eating cow was a cow who just ocassionally ate people when you weren't looking.

      Bad cow.

  14. Perspective of a drunken viewer by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Ok, I had a few beers and was attempting to make some kind of dinner without A) cutting my fingers off B) burning it, yet again and sat down to watch with a plate of curried rice with asparagus.

    Patrick Warburton was absolutely perfect as The Tick, Nestor Carbonell was great as Batmanuel, Liz Vassey as Captain Liberty and David Burke was a great fit as Arthur. Since these shows were originally filmed in 2000, will this cast be preserved? Is there any plan to do a 1 hour show or movie? It was fun to watch, and just because of the beer!

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    1. Re:Perspective of a drunken viewer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wasn't so fond of Patrick Warburton's voice. He didn't have the inflection I thought the Tick would (nay, should) have, and he just didn't come across as being an 8 year old, mentally.

    2. Re:Perspective of a drunken viewer by ackthpt · · Score: 1

      While I did watch some of the cartoon series, I don't have a lot of baggage and expectations of the Live series and it works for me. Quite likely this is what FOX is looking for, broad audience appeal, rather than the million or less who know the Tick from back in the day.

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  15. Re:Perspective of a drunken viewer [Correction] by ackthpt · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Last sentence should have read 'and NOT just because...' Thanks! (btw, I'm certainly sober, I just type really bad!)

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  16. supporting characters by drfrog · · Score: 1

    will we ever see the chainsaw vigilante, the man eating cow or paul the samurai
    show up in the live action series?

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  17. To sum it all up by Jefe+(Not+Satanic) · · Score: 1

    WTF?

  18. How do the Tick's antenna work? by Lumpish+Scholar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sometimes they seemed remote control, sometimes they seemed computer generated.

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    1. Re:How do the Tick's antenna work? by donutz · · Score: 1
      Sometimes they seemed remote control, sometimes they seemed computer generated.



      Well maybe it seems that way because that's the way it is . . . hmm . . . didn't stop to think before we asked this question . . .

    2. Re:How do the Tick's antenna work? by potaz · · Score: 1
      They're actual real antennae, motorized, and controlled by remote by somebody offscreen.

    3. Re:How do the Tick's antenna work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check these out: Tick Antennae

    4. Re:How do the Tick's antenna work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oops, I meant:

      Tick Antennae

    5. Re:How do the Tick's antenna work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey, not too bad for 8$

  19. The Tick lives in Comic book... by FirstNoel · · Score: 1

    Some of the best stuff is in the comic books, which are still around.

    The cartoon was great but the Comics are better.

    Sean D.

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  20. i would ask ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What do you plan on doing once the Tick is cancelled ? What I mean to say is what are your plans for next week ?

  21. Origins by Luminous · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Will we ever see the 'origins' of The Tick?

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    1. Re:Origins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, it's in one of the comics that came out last year. Check your local retailers for The Tick back issues, or try www.newenglandcomics.com

    2. Re:Origins by trix_e · · Score: 1

      God, I hope not. that's part of the... dare I say it... brilliance of the Tick... he has no origin and should stay that way.

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  22. Hero/Villain Iconography by kaladorn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Tick, to my mind, is an ideal hero icon for the current generation. He has good intentions, but isn't too aware of the fine details (well, even some gross details) of the world around him. He tries hard, and things tend to work out after a fashion, but usually not as a result of any particular brilliance on his part. Tick fulfills the iconic image of style over substance, of good intentions versus understanding, of the brawn and machismo not directed by a terribly powerful cranium, and of accidental destruction as a consequence of his good intentions and bungling execution.

    His sidekick Arthur, of course, is more down to earth and aware. He's a bit of a geek (though I have yet so see him hack a kernel) with less-than-stellar social skills. He too seems to fill an iconic image in modern-day society - the nerdy brains-behind the brawn.

    When these characters evolved, were they merely an attempt to poke fun at Superhero archetypes, or were they consciously intended to be more "in touch" with and to more closely parallel today's society? Or do you consider such analysis to be far deeper than the subject matter merits? Is the Tick just good humored fun, or is it perceptive art?

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    1. Re:Hero/Villain Iconography by Tackhead · · Score: 2
      > Tick, to my mind, is an ideal hero icon for the current generation. He has good intentions, but isn't too aware of the fine details (well, even some gross details) of the world around him. He tries hard, and things tend to work out after a fashion, but usually not as a result of any particular brilliance on his part. Tick fulfills the iconic image of style over substance, of good intentions versus understanding, of the brawn and machismo not directed by a terribly powerful cranium, and of accidental destruction as a consequence of his good intentions and bungling execution.

      Tick, in other words, is J.R. "Bob" Dobbs, the infinitely fallible superhero.

      I think that's why I admire him so much. I agree with you -- he's defintely the ideal heroic type for today's confused times.

  23. Don Quixote by ThePlague · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It seems the relationship between The Tick and Arthur is similar to the one between Don Quixote and Sancho. Is this intentional, or merely reflecting the influence that book has had on "buddy" motifs in literature? Finally, have you considered a plot line involving invisible giants that only The Tick can see so that when Arthur is urged to join in battle against them, he can utter "What giants?"

  24. Spoon! by georgewad · · Score: 0

    Seems that the Tickism of the Day: http://www.spe.sony.com/tv/shows/tick/main.phtml is Spoon!

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  25. Working with Fox by Wind_Walker · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Given Fox's track record of hyping up incredibly gimicky or out-of-place shows (Alien Autopsy and Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire come to mind) while simultaneously burying shows that have real potential (Family Guy, for instance), how concerned are you that Fox will simply bury you after one unsuccessful (or successful) season?

    1. Re:Working with Fox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...Family Guy?
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
      ...real potential?
      HEEE HOOO HAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHA

      My dead cat has more potential than that show.

  26. What the Hell is The Tick? by imevil · · Score: 1
    I grew up in Europe, I am still living in Europe, so I think the Tick is one of those other things that are specific to the American culture.
    Well, I asked Google, and for the other non-us /.ers here are some links: I guess if it's not in my culture, then it's not that fun.
  27. Where is Sewer Urchin? by YouAreFatMan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Was Sewer Urchin the casualty of the intellectual-property fight, or was he removed because of political correctness? There are equivalent characters to American Maid and Die Fledermaus, but no bizarro Sewer Urchin. Was it just too much to have a autistic live-action hero on primetime?

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    1. Re:Where is Sewer Urchin? by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      He's got a bucket on his head, and you can't recognise him.

      Sewer urchin:"Yeah, definitely got a bucket on my head."

      That's just funny stuff :)

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    2. Re:Where is Sewer Urchin? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps he'll show up later... I know that not all the characters appeared in the first cartoon episode. There's only so many you can introduce in a half-hour.

  28. Action sequences by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

    First of all, I saw the premiere of the Tick, and I loved it, I've been telling people at work about it all morning.

    On to the question:

    Do you plan to get the actors any special training so that they can more readily play their super hero roles? I noticed that the Tick looked a bit stiff as he was jumping around rooftops. I'm guessing the big rubber suit doesn't help, but action heroes need to look lively don't they?

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  29. don't you realize the Tick is naked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    boxers? briefs? For god's sake, man, that's not a blue suit he's wearing, that's how he really is!


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  30. Egad! My melon! by Codex+The+Sloth · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why were the costumes for the Tick and Arthur so different from the cartoon / comic (which I loved, BTW)? In particular, the Tick's eyes are not covered and Arthur's outfit doesn't look the same at all. Having a mask is a big part of being a super hero!

    Will we see:
    The evil midnight bomber?
    Pineapple Pocopo?
    The civic minded 5?
    Hang 10 for justice!

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    1. Re:Egad! My melon! by night_flyer · · Score: 2

      Having a mask is a big part of being a super hero!

      and facial expressions is a big part of being an actor....

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    2. Re:Egad! My melon! by MrAl · · Score: 1

      Read the linked interview from 2000 - it'll answer your question.

    3. Re:Egad! My melon! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod up that parent or mod down the originator of the thread. People don't even bother clicking the links anymore...

  31. UHH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seems the relationship between The Tick and Arthur is similar to the one between Don Quixote and Sancho.
    Is this intentional, or merely reflecting the influence that book has had on "buddy" motifs in literature?
    Finally, have you considered a plot line involving invisible giants that only The Tick can see so that when Arthur is urged to join in battle against them, he can utter "What giants?"

  32. [OT] current generation by fader · · Score: 1

    "... isn't too aware of the fine details (well, even some gross details) of the world around him. He tries hard, and things tend to work out after a fashion, but usually not as a result of any particular brilliance on his part... style over substance, of good intentions versus understanding, of the brawn and machismo not directed by a terribly powerful cranium, and of accidental destruction as a consequence of his good intentions and bungling execution."

    Funny, I didn't realize that Dubya was a member of the 'current generation'. (What does that mean, anyway? Aren't there several generations currently living?)

    Sorry, just wasting time at work.

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    - fader
    1. Re:[OT] current generation by isaac_akira · · Score: 2

      I am terribly offended at your characterization of the honorable President George W. Bush as a bumbling idiot with good intentions. I think the record clearly shows his total lack of good intentions.

      (Man, I was totally unimpressed by The Tick last night. Didn't laugh once, and would have changed the channel after a few minutes but I really hoped it would get better. Family Guy was great though!)

    2. Re:[OT] current generation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Family Guy was great though

      I think we have nothing further to say to each other.

  33. ...so, uh, when's the next issue of the comic? by babbage · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I've been reading the comic since the early 90s, when a high school friend lent me a copy of a comic that his sister's friend had written -- that would be you :). I loved "The Tick" from the start and have been a fan ever since, so I was delighted to find out yesterday -- just in time to watch it -- that there was now a live action tv show version. I remember many of the later comics saying this sort of thing was in the pipeline, but considering how long it has been in coming, I was a bit skeptical that anything would come of it. Glad to see that I was wrong on that one.

    So, now that you have your show, I'm curious:

    • How involved in it are you? Writing? Producing? Can we expect a cameo? How much creative control do you have over where the show goes, particularly considering some of the copyright issues that I've been hearing about?
    • Do you have the time or the interest to go back and do any more issues of the comic? It seemed like each issue took longer & longer to come out, until eventually they seemed to just peter out (not counting for the moment variants written by others). Is there any chance that there could be another original Ben Edlund penned Tick comic someday, or are your interests elsewhere now?
    • It's kind of outside the scope of the original contest, but will getting a question to you on Slashdot make anyone eligible for one of the Super Rare Uncut Copies Of Issue #2? I suppose by asking I've disqualified myself, but still I can't help but wonder :). How many of those were there, and are they all gone now?

    Congratulations on your success, from a fellow southeastern Mass person... :)

    1. Re:...so, uh, when's the next issue of the comic? by gmhowell · · Score: 2

      I have the cut version. A buddy of mine and I in HS bought comics through NEC (neither of us had a driver's license at the time to hit a local shop). Somehow or another (letter published?) he got one of the uncut number 2's. Saw him two or three weeks ago at HS reunion (10 yr). He's still got it.

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    2. Re:...so, uh, when's the next issue of the comic? by babbage · · Score: 2
      The only time I ever got a letter published in a comic, it was me begging for a #2 in Latin. I'm pretty sure it's in the Omnibus I've got at home, but I'd have to check. They basically replied "this is getting ridiculous, cut it out, no more #2s will be given for creative letters to the editor -- you ruined it" and that was that.

      But I figured, hey, we're in WorldWideWebLand now, it's worth another shot... :)

  34. Mod parent up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's got the guts to ask the questions that we want answered.

  35. Where can people send scripts? by AugstWest · · Score: 2

    I know that you folks are looking for writers and reading through scripts...

    Are you accepting scripts still?

    I have a couple of scripts that I was working on back in the days when the animated series was running, and I'd like to know if people can still submit them, and if so, submit them exactly where?

    (oh, and also, is there any chance that we might see Speak appear?)

    1. Re:Where can people send scripts? by AugstWest · · Score: 2

      My apologies, they mention in the linked interview that Speak will not appear.

      Well, actually, the interviewer says it, not Ben, so I suppose it is still possible....

  36. good thing I didn't hold my breath! by gmkeegan · · Score: 1

    If the pilot was finished in May 2000, why did it take 18 months to air? I've been looking forward to it for longer than that and it was everything I hoped and more. Is there a 25-words-or-less rundown of what you can't use from the comic and/or animated series somewhere? (or just a flat list?)

    How many licks does it take to get through the hard shell of crime to the soft, chewy center of justice?

  37. Tick and current events by BillyGoatThree · · Score: 1, Redundant

    First, I loved the first episode. Patrick Warburton and David Burke (?) were perfectly cast and the writing was 90% (which is excellent for a pilot).

    The biggest problem, I found, were the villians. Heavily accented Soviets plan to release a destructive force inside a large city. It's ridiculous and dated on the one side, disturbingly realistic and familiar on the other.

    So my question: Is it tasteful or even possible to humorously depict Evil Masterminds so soon after a chilling reminder of real evil?

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    1. Re:Tick and current events by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > It's ridiculous and dated on the one side,
      > disturbingly realistic and familiar on the
      > other.

      And pretty humorous on both (remember "Eastern Bloc Robot Cowboy," which was a vending machine with some AI?).

    2. Re:Tick and current events by Chairboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > Is it tasteful or even possible to humorously
      > depict Evil Masterminds so soon after a
      > chilling reminder of real evil?

      I will take my licks if readers of this response feel the need to mod me down, but I need to be clear that this is not intended as a troll:

      SCREW YOU! People like you who think that any depiction of anything other then fluffy puppy dogs on TV is inappropriate are continuing the work of the terrorists!

      Every time some good for nothing self appointed censor says 'Uh, maybe that is not so tasteful right now.... please think of the children.' and changes stuff to make it less 'scary' or defangs humor to deal with 9/11 they are helping keep our country down!

      Get a fucking clue, goddamnit! If we have ANY chance to get back to normal, and ANY chance to defiantly tell the people who hate us that we will not be defeated, we NEED things that violate your precious little ideal of 'tasteful'.

      You are part of the problem. Fix that.

      (once again, I am not posting this as AC because I strongly feel this way. If you are a moderator who feels the need to mod this down because I used 'bad words', go ahead if it makes you feel better. I'm willing to sacrifice my 50 Karma to prove that I am serious.)

    3. Re:Tick and current events by p3d0 · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      I'm willing to sacrifice my 50 Karma to prove that I am serious.
      Can you see that I am serious! Join me or die. Can you do any less?

      (Oh, and if you want to be taken seriously, I think it may be better to articulate your point than to say with "screw you" and "please don't mod me down". I think your post would be more effective if you just trimmed out the rants.)

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    4. Re:Tick and current events by Chairboy · · Score: 2

      Perhaps, but please note that I did not ask not to be modded down.

      In regards to the... heartfelt exclamations... they are very efficient and compact ways of expressing an opinion. In the interest of efficiency, if I can summarize a 250 word treatise with 'screw you!', I've performed an incredible bit of optimization.

    5. Re:Tick and current events by Eugene+O'Neil · · Score: 1

      Of course a Soviet killing machine designed in the late 70s to kill Jimmy Carter seems ridiculously dated today. That was the joke! Duh!

      If you want to use September 11th as an excuse for not having a sense of humor, that is your problem. Don't watch a show about super-heroes, and then complain about it depicting evil masterminds. What did you expect the super-heros to do, play with fluffy bunnies for half an hour?

    6. Re:Tick and current events by Golias · · Score: 2
      People like you who think that any depiction of anything other then fluffy puppy dogs on TV is inappropriate are continuing
      the work of the terrorists!

      Ah-ha! So that's where all that anthrax is coming from! Come on, guys, let's get him!

      Seriously, the shrill tone of people saying "don't change anything about our cynical, shallow culture or the terrorists will have won," are really getting on my nerves. If you want to defeat terrorism, you do what our government is doing: Find where they are hiding and turn each of them into a fine red spray. Repeat process until you run out of hostile targets.

      I promise you that bin Laden does not give a flying fuck about what jokes Ellen came up with durring the Emmy Awards. The Al Quida network never had the goal of making sure there were fewer irreverent jokes about NYC on late night talk shows.

      So no, changing our culture does not mean the terrorists won. It means that we are responding to a crisis with an understandable measure of caution and seriousness. Pulling all western presense out of the Middle East and dissolving the state of Israel... now that would mean the terrorists won.

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    7. Re:Tick and current events by p3d0 · · Score: 1

      Good point. :-)

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    8. Re:Tick and current events by OmegaDan · · Score: 2

      Don't feed the trolls

    9. Re:Tick and current events by jonese_67 · · Score: 1

      And I suppose you didn't think the Gilligan's Island episode where the Japanese submarine commander, who didn't get word that WWII was over, took Gilligan and mates captive was funny.

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  38. my question: by Mr.+Quick · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    can you lend me 5 dollars?

  39. that's when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's when you set up a DirecTV system with an emulator setup so you can get all 120+ local channels. That way, if you live in the eastern time zone, you can just wait until the west coast feed comes on. Or, if you live on the west coast, watch your 8:00pm programs at 5:00 pm. This is how we watch friends, will and grace, survivor, CSI, and ER all in one night!

  40. Target Audience by rnb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Judging from the first episode alone, it seems like the live-action Tick is automatically shooting for an older audience than the cartoon was (for perhaps obvious reasons). Arthur getting drunk, The Tick using the word "bitch," some of Batmanuel's references to Captain Liberty, etc. I always got the feeling from the cartoon that it was aimed at both adults and kids, with some jokes perhaps flying over the kids' heads while the adults would get them (a snake accusing The Tick of not dating much during a wrestling match in The Tick vs. Proto-Clown comes to mind).

    Will the live-action series be aimed more at adults and less at younger viewers? I'm not really complaining if that is the case, it just seemed like there was definitely a shift in tone.

    1. Re:Target Audience by babbage · · Score: 3, Insightful
      It's worth noting that the original comic had the same adult/kid duality. The very first issue had Tick "saving" a homeless man, and the guy replying something to the effect of "Oh shit not again..." (it's been a while, but he definitely swore :).

      If the cartoon was more "kids only", I'd suggest that's because it was, well, a Saturday morning kid's cartoon, and had to work with the market it was put into. Granted, the audience of the average comic book is probably only slightly older than the Saturday morning cartoon audience, but still there's more variability there, with room for more edgy stuff like Tick. Now this show is aimed at prime time television, which will have an older demographic than the cartoon did, so they have the freedom to go back to the more mature humor.

      If it counts as a shift, it's a shift back to where the characters & stories started out, and that's a good thing in my eyes. A lot of the best storytelling does the same dual humor thing: from "the Simpsons" and "Theres Something About Mary", back to Shakespeare's comedies. It's an old trick -- include slapstick for the kids & immature adults, and more ironic, biting humor for the more mature portion of the audicene. Heigh ho, everyone goes home happy... :)

    2. Re:Target Audience by darkonc · · Score: 2

      Even though the Tic cartoon was probably child-oriented, it still had some adult-parsed humor in it. I remember being ROFL with some of the social undertones to a couple of the episodes I watched.
      Don't watch enough TV to have gotten the whole series, or anything, but the ones I watched had a good bit to them... especially the earlier ones.

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  41. Why Fox? by Computer! · · Score: 1

    See subject.

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  42. Question Suggestion: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Lyme Disease ... your feelings about?

  43. Sarcastro by Pooh · · Score: 1

    Can we expect to see this great character, Sarcastro who fight evil with the sharp blade of sarcasm?

  44. Female Super Heros and Cartoons by toupsie · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Do cartoonists get women like rock stars or are the sexist representation of women in comics a result of a lackluster love life and multiple failures in attracting the opposite sex?

    Do you feel guilty that the women portrayed in your cartoons are 1 dimensional pin-up girls while the male characters are given more depth? Can a woman be a super hero if she does not have big breasts that look good in spandex?

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    1. Re:Female Super Heros and Cartoons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Can a woman be a super hero if she does not have big breasts that look good in spandex?"

      No.

    2. Re:Female Super Heros and Cartoons by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      Both the tick and batmanuel seem pretty shallow to me...that's part of what makes them funny :)

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    3. Re:Female Super Heros and Cartoons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Are you familiar with the superhero genre?

      Are you aware that this is a parody of that genre?

    4. Re:Female Super Heros and Cartoons by toupsie · · Score: 2

      If its a parody of the genre, why wouldn't the female superhero be very intelligent, small breasted and dressed in business attaire?

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    5. Re:Female Super Heros and Cartoons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > If its a parody of the genre, why wouldn't the
      > female superhero be very intelligent, small
      > breasted and dressed in business attaire?

      That wouldn't be a parody. "The Tick" is a parody because Captain Liberty (like American Maid before her) looks like Wonder Woman, but has a quick sarcastic wit and is always getting The Tick and Arthur out of trouble (role reversal).

    6. Re:Female Super Heros and Cartoons by arkanes · · Score: 1

      In the cartoon, American Maid actually seemed to have a clue, which put her at least a few points up on anyone else.

    7. Re:Female Super Heros and Cartoons by MisterQueue · · Score: 1

      Hmm..I don't think you've read The Tick...it is satire of superheroes, so even that trend of which you speak is made fun of in the comic book itself. And I doubt Mr Edlund would consider himself among the unwashed masses of which you speak. Also, as far as mainstream comics go, have you ever read them? The male characters aren't any more depth-induced than the female, they're all pretty tepid and weak. Just my .02...

      -Q

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    8. Re:Female Super Heros and Cartoons by babbage · · Score: 4, Insightful
      ...um, part of the joke with The Tick, the comic in particular (I didn't see enough of the cartoon to get a feel for it) is that more or less *all* of the characters are one dimensional. That's the *joke*. Surely you can't be saying that Tick has any real depth or substance to him, beyond being an endearingly bumbling oaf. If any of the characters in the original comic had depth, surely one of them would have been Oedipus, the [female] Ninja In Training.

      My take on the early issues of The Tick was that it was making fun of, among other things, exactly the representations you describe in your first paragraph. All the testosterone fueled heros & heroines, the latent homoeroticism, the predictable pinup figures of all female characters, etc. I don't think "Tick" was part of the problem you're describing, I think "Tick" was taking a swipe at it...

    9. Re:Female Super Heros and Cartoons by toupsie · · Score: 2

      That's good to know. I have only seen the live action and cartoon versions of the Tick. I have never seen the print version. Hopefully, I am wrong because I do enjoy the Tick.

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    10. Re:Female Super Heros and Cartoons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can a woman be a super hero if she does not have big breasts that look good in spandex?

      no


      ok, now seriously...look at the target audience. do you think your average comic book consumer wants to see female superheroes who aren't knockouts? while we're at it, why don't we put slobbish, belching, bumbling mechanics on some daytime soap operas...do we suppose that will work out?

    11. Re:Female Super Heros and Cartoons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It all comes down to the breasts, eh? I think women are actually more hung up on breast size than men.

    12. Re:Female Super Heros and Cartoons by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 1

      If they decided to parody it in that way, then yes.

      By that logic, since Tick is a parody of superheroes, shouldn't he have no powers, not wear a costume, and not save people?

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    13. Re:Female Super Heros and Cartoons by Jen_Erik · · Score: 1

      Was this comment just a troll, or are you really this clueless? Have you actaully read/watched, or did you just catch a glimpse and confirm your ready made decisions about the genre?

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    14. Re:Female Super Heros and Cartoons by Da+Masta · · Score: 1

      Because that isn't what a parody is! Parodies take certain aspects (such as big breasts) and take them to the extreme, making it funny to people who realize that the creator/writer/author notices the absurdity of that particular aspect of whatever is being parodied.

    15. Re:Female Super Heros and Cartoons by Golias · · Score: 1
      Can a woman be a super hero if she does not have big breasts that look good in spandex?

      As opposed to all those male superheroes, who all have pot bellies, floppy man-boobs, and thinning hair?

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    16. Re:Female Super Heros and Cartoons by SparkyMartin · · Score: 1
      A: We're men. We like looking at 1 dimentional pinup girls in spandex with huge knockers.
      Since you have not reached puberty yet let me explain.
      Just as women get all hot'n'bothered looking at Brad Pitt, Dean Cain, or Mel Gibson...

      We prefer:
      Shania Twain
      Jennifer Lopez
      Cortney Cox

      We do not Prefer:
      Rita MacNeil
      Paula Poundstone
      Rosie ODonnel

      Have you ever bothered to notice how male superheros are drawn? Do you know any guy with a 26 inch waist and a 3 wide foot chest? Ever see any real men with muscular arms 4 feet in circumference? Ever see any real males with legs thicker and with more muscle than on a bison?

      Loosen up Political Corectedness Man/woman.

    17. Re:Female Super Heros and Cartoons by ThePlague · · Score: 0

      That's a very good point.

  45. Paul the Samurai, Karma Tornado -- what happened? by jabbo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to be an avid Tick and PTS fan. Collected them and Milk And Cheese, that about covers the comics I actually found amusing. The Tick was great because it wasn't so horribly cynical and angry as Dorkin's (Milk and Cheese) work, but was almost as funny. Then at some point the Tick stopped being funny. Man Eating Cow, Karma Tornado, all the spin-offs besides Paul The Samurai were terrible from the beginning. I never could figure out why this was.

    Did you break with NEC at some point, leaving the Tick and Paul the Samurai series to be written by somebody else? The first dozen or so Ticks were hysterical, as was the first Paul the Samurai, and then everything dissipated. (the original Tick cartoon show was pretty funny, but nowhere near as good as the comic book)

    I don't collect comics anymore (gave them all to my little brother) but I did enjoy the Tick and M&C. M&C lost a lot of its punch after a while, maybe everyone runs out of material, but it seemed like much more of an abrupt transition with the Tick, and I was wondering what happened. Also I hope you're back for good, some of my college friends had never heard of the Tick and really got hooked on it after I dug out some old issues of the comic. The comics were great stuff.

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  46. Re:Why Live? by strredwolf · · Score: 2

    Why do a live version when the cartoon series, given the Live-Action Tick's timeslot, would of been a better choice? I mean, I enjoyed the cartoon series. No amount of live-action + special effects is going to be up to the same.

    Also, don't you think the Power Rangers series should of been animated for it's own sake, instead of live action?

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  47. Fox by SilentChris · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Do find being on Fox to be a potential downfall? It seems like a lot of semi-decent shows ("Family Guy") get killed and resurrected fairly often on the network.

    1. Re:Fox by p3d0 · · Score: 1

      Downfall? I do not think that word means what you think it means. How about handicap?

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  48. DVD? by Count+Fecal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When will the cartoon series Tick be available on DVD?

    1. Re:DVD? by AndyChrist · · Score: 1

      About 6 months from now...4 months after it gets cancelled.

    2. Re:DVD? by yesthatguy · · Score: 1

      The comics are long gone, no?

      --
      Yes! That guy!
    3. Re:DVD? by Catbeller · · Score: 2

      Um, no, the comics are still coming out. Go thou to a comic book store and see.

    4. Re:DVD? by yesthatguy · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I got confused...I meant cartoons and said comics.

      --
      Yes! That guy!
    5. Re:DVD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is what is most wrong with the moderation system for interviews. Questions that can be answered by doing a little googling get modded up, and we end up wasting the interviewee's time with them.

    6. Re:DVD? by GregGardner · · Score: 1

      Please enlighten us, oh Anonymous Coward as to what the simple answer is. I did some googling and didn't find anything about a release of the Tick cartoon series on DVD.

  49. Batmanuel and Captain Liberty? by davebob · · Score: 1
    In the animated series, one of my favorite subplots was the relationship between American Maid and Die Fledermaus.


    It seems that Batmanuel and Captain Liberty are a little more romantically inclined than their cartoon counterparts. Why did you make that decision?

  50. artistic license, censors, and personal taste... by taco1991 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As you and others were developing The Tick into a live action series, (after watching the first live action episode) you seem to be trying to return to the style of the comic book rather than the animated series. To that end, some things probably weren't appropriate for TV, like having the Tick escape from an insane asylum in the pilot. Other things were created to make the show more appropriate for a tv audience - more character development and making them seem more like "real" people (jobs, cell phones, drinking at the bar, etc.).

    How much did you have to give and take between making the live action have content appropriate for tv (ie network censors), adding plot elements and characters to make it appropriate for a (potentially) long running tv series, fighting the cartoon copyright issues, and adapting it to suit your vision of the Tick on tv? Also, what would you like to do with the show that you can't on tv?

    thanks
    t.

    --
    "Corrupting our youth one mind at a time"
  51. Hollywood? by DA_MAN_DA_MYTH · · Score: 1

    If the TV Show is well recepted, do you ever think you could get back into doing the comic, cartoon, or even doing a movie with the live-action, or cartoon?

    By the way who is the genius that come up with the best battle-cry since Yo-Joe? (SPOOOOOOOOONNN!!!!!)

    --
    "It takes many nails to build a crib, but one screw to fill it."
    1. Re:Hollywood? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it'd be great if the show took off and was expanded to a 1 hour format with high production values so they could improve the special effects.

  52. Who are your artistic heros/influences? by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 1

    Who are your artistic heros/influences?

  53. Comic to TV Adaptations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    will there be a possibility of adaptations of Tick comic issues. I would love to see the Tick face off with Barry in real-time along with a follow up to show the results of Barry's defeat.

  54. Little Wooden Boy by Bahamuto · · Score: 1

    All I have to say is, I hope Little Wooden Boy makes an apperance. That was so funny in the cartoon when he is carrying him around the whole episode, and they at the end they end up killing him :)

    SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

  55. Origins of "Spoooon!" by dbretton · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ever since I first heard the battle cry of The Tick, I always wondered, "How did these guys come up with the idea?"
    I tried to visualize the circumstances which brought forth the famous Tick line, and always end up picturing some semi-intoxicated discussion over battle cries during dinner, then someone started holding up utensils.

    So, how did it happen? What were the circumstances? What were the alternative/runner-up battle cries?

    (if you say, "chopstick & spork", you'll get me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.)

    -Dennis

    1. Re:Origins of "Spoooon!" by quiller · · Score: 2, Informative

      You should read the original comic books (by Ben Edlund). He does come up with it sitting around the dinner table with Arthur. He just thinks it is a neat word and would make a great battle cry.

      The comic also contains the immortal line "Arthur, what this feast needs is Pez".

    2. Re:Origins of "Spoooon!" by rtkluttz · · Score: 1

      I'm glad someone knew this. I had always assumed that it was some weird reference to the way that some people deal with a fat, well-fed, newly discovered tick - putting it in a spoon and heating the bottom of the spoon with a match or lighter until the tick pops and takes off like a mini-fighter jet.

      --
      Digital is, by definition, imperfect. Analog is the way to go.
    3. Re:Origins of "Spoooon!" by Russ+Steffen · · Score: 2

      The cartoon there was another elemenet - Tick is looking at is face reflected in the back of a spoon. The distorted reflection looks all mean and fierce and Tick is clearly mesmerized by it.

  56. The Tick's Language by quiller · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While I'm a big fan of the Tick and enjoyed the show last night, I found one thing discordant while watching it. The Tick using words like bitch, and gonads. He has always struck me as having very anachronistic language. Stuck back in the Father Knows Best days. Spreading his brand of creamy justice on the toast of the city, sure. Make Evil my Bitch, doesn't work for him. Borderline profanity might work for some of the other characters, particularly Bat Manuel, but it seems wrong for the well intentioned, but naive hero that is the Tick. Is this a direction they are trying to take the Tick for some reason, or just a matter of unfamiliarity with the characters that will be ironed out over time?

    1. Re:The Tick's Language by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
      +5, Insightful!


      Please ask this question! I loved the premier, but the Tick saying "bitch" simply DOES NOT FIT, and IMHO, takes away from his child-like personality.

    2. Re:The Tick's Language by babbage · · Score: 2

      I'm not sure what the cartoon version of the character was like -- I only saw part of one episode -- but a mildly profane line wouldn't have been totally out of character for the comic book version. I'm guessing that had to be toned down for the Saturday morning cartoon, and maybe that's what you're used to, but I think a prime time version of the character can, like the indie comic book back in the beginning, get away with being a little more adult / edgy / profane / whatever.

    3. Re:The Tick's Language by jeff13 · · Score: 1

      I agree. I can sum it up in one quote...

      I can't eat a kitten! THAT'S JUST WRONG !!!

    4. Re:The Tick's Language by quiller · · Score: 1

      Can you give me any example in the comic where the Tick is profane in some way? I've got them all, (pretty much) and don't recall any instance. I'm much more familiar with the comic, than the cartoon in any case. I could imagine him getting overly graphic in an attempt to make a metaphor, but it would be more like "Dig into the underbelly of Evil, until we find the small instestines." I agree that they can be edgier than the cartoon series, but playing up his sexual innocence while using sexual language doesn't work or fit. Once again, I am only talking about the Tick, other characters can be different. (I didn't mind them using a 90 pound weakling Arthur instead of a 230 pound weakling Arthur, the manner is the important part.)

    5. Re:The Tick's Language by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It only fails to "fit" into the minds of people who only know the tick from the children's cartoon.

      I thought it was one of the funniest lines in the show.

  57. Comment, Not Question by Liza · · Score: 2

    Actually, 2.

    First, I thought Batmanuel was hilarious. I hope Captain Liberty becomes more clearly a right-wing reactionary, because I think that would make her character much more interesting. Yesterday she just seemed like a girl who couldn't say no and mean it -- which wasn't that interesting, IMO.

    Second, I first encountered The Tick at a wedding.

    It was the best wedding cake-top decoration I have ever seen, and featured The Tick and a Wonder Woman. They were in completely different scales, so The Tick was twice as tall as Wonder Woman, which worked fabulously as the couple getting married were a 6'6" man and a 4'11" woman. The Tick, of course, was in his regular uniform, but they managed to glue a tiny tulle veil onto Wonder Woman's head.

    Liza

    --
    These opinions are my own. My employer is not aware of them, does not endorse them, and is not responsible for them.
  58. That's not what I said by BillyGoatThree · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    "People like you who think that any depiction of anything other then fluffy puppy dogs on TV is inappropriate are continuing the work of the terrorists!"

    Yes, those people are annoying. I'm not one of them. Did I say I wanted Tick off the air? Did I say I was offended? No.

    I know a thing or two about humor. One of those things is that a joke can be a fragile and delicate thing. Even a slight disturbance will destroy it (or maim it beyond repair). WTC has temporarily (or even permanently) nullified "Evil Mastermind plots to destroy city" jokes for a lot of people. Thus my question about whether it is possible to have a humorous supervillian succeed in the current atmosphere.

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    324006
    1. Re:That's not what I said by prelelat · · Score: 1

      I don't know how to start this off all I want to say is that how would this not be humorous right now after the WTC what did it have to do with the WTC. If anything it made people think of a happy place where bad people are stoped by some big guy in Blue(maybe even a metaphore for the police).

      When you start to think that every thing is going to hurt every ones fealing then you start to get an opressed sociaty where people can't express themselves like they want to.

      The only people that I've seen so far that have really looked at the WTC and tried to look at it from more than one angle so far and be able to say it on TV is Matt Stone and Trey Parker of South Park. They have always done a good job of that if you look deep beyond kenny dying and people being pissed off at them. I wouldn't mod that show down for the world and its alot more contraversial.

    2. Re:That's not what I said by Bimble · · Score: 1

      Thus my question about whether it is possible to have a humorous supervillian succeed in the current atmosphere.

      I'd imagine it would work pretty well, so long as the supervillain kept losing. Humorous depictions of Osama bin Laden are pretty popular on the Web right now, so there doesn't seem to be an aversion to humor as relates to terrorism right now. The only affect I could see recent events having on humorous supervillains on TV would be that it would be hard to succeed with a show that had a supervillain as a protagonist.

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      Naked.
    3. Re:That's not what I said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how would this not be humorous right now after the WTC what did it have to do with the WTC

      There was the Attck On The Post Office element, though, that I was a little surprised (but not offended) to see left in. But then, I didn't realize it was filmed so long ago. I suppose it would have been difficult to edit.

    4. Re:That's not what I said by Rinikusu · · Score: 1

      Jesus christ.

      I really don't give a FUCK about the WTC. I really don't give a FUCK about Afghanistan.

      "I don't give a fuck about Nicaragua . . . . Your Politics are boring, Your Politics are FUCKING boring." - Screeching Weasle, "Nicaragua"

      Yes, I'm saddened that some terrorists helped flatten a set of buildings that some of the most money grubbing bastards in the world called home, and I really feel saddened by the loss of life that accompanied it. I also feel outraged that in the aftermath of 9-11 we've given "blank checks" to an illegitamate, borderline-illiterate RICH KID and his administration to stomp on our civil liberties in the name of "Saving the Children". Oh wait, wrong campaign. I meant "Stopping Terrorism." Fuck that.

      TV is just fucking TV and that's the first show I've watched in a long damn time (the Tick, that is). I found it quite amusing, having never read the comic or seen the cartoon series. Evil Masterminds plotting to take over the world is old-hat and anyone offended by it should've just changed the fucking channel to something else. The Food Network seems to be devoid of such references. Oh wait, Emeril likes to say "Bam!" a lot and someone might construe that as some kind of distasteful reference to an airplane slamming into one of the Towers.

      Get a life, get a clue, enjoy life, go outside and get away from the TV and your computer as you obviously take it too seriously.

      --
      If you were me, you'd be good lookin'. - six string samurai
  59. The Beginning by Prof_Dagoski · · Score: 5, Interesting


    I wish I still had my first Tick comic. It was a freebie from New England Comics, announcing that they were going to try publishing their own comics. I thought it pretty decent, but had to make more strategic decisions in my collecting habits at the time. Sorry Ben, I just had to have Akira. Fast forward a few years and suddenly I see the tick everywhere. So my question is this: Where did you think this comic would end up way back at issue one? Were you jsut hoping to have some good stuff in your portfolio by the time you got out of college(or wherever)? Were you hoping for a moderately successful underground classic? Just when did you realize that the Tick was a big hit? What happened then in your life and how did it affect your creation(the comic as well as the character)?

  60. Do you still read Cerebus? by weatherbee · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Most people probably don't realize that the Tick is a direct adaptation of the "Roach" superhero parody character from Dave Sim's Cerebus. Do you still keep up with Cerebus despite the fact that the Roach (and his attendant humor) have been missing from the story for 100 or so issues now? What do you think of how Cerebus has unfolded? Has Dave Sim, a notorious hater of the television medium, given you any grief over the new series?

    1. Re:Do you still read Cerebus? by Golias · · Score: 2
      If there is any justice in this world-gone-mad, your question will be one of the ones that gets modded up and asked.

      Unfortunately, too many /. readers have no idea that a comic called "Cerebus" even existed, let alone that it was one of Edlund's early influences.

      I suspect that a lot of /.ers were still playing kickball when Cerebus was in its prime.

      --

      Information wants to be anthropomorphized.

    2. Re:Do you still read Cerebus? by blair1q · · Score: 2

      Way, way back in the bowels of time, I stood in a comic book shop looking at this brand new Cerebus thing, took the entire stock of issue No. 1 up in my hands, thought for a second, then said "Naah," and put them back.

      --Blair
      "Now I live in a van down by the river."

    3. Re:Do you still read Cerebus? by blair1q · · Score: 2

      Other apparent influences/analogues/ripoffs/honest mistakes/coincidences, for various reasons:

      National Lampoon's Ver-man and the Flit
      Zippy the Pinhead
      The Badger
      Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (before they sold out)
      Mystery Men

      --Blair
      "The Bush White House..."

    4. Re:Do you still read Cerebus? by blair1q · · Score: 2

      Flaming Carrot!

      I can't believe I forgot to list Flaming Carrot.

      --Blair
      "I'll be over there, nursing my geekiness."

    5. Re:Do you still read Cerebus? by Year+Round+Produce · · Score: 1

      Cerebus rocks like a hurricane.

      During an "education" by a comic book reading freak monkey of a boyfriend. I was given three phone book sized volumes of earth pig goodness, and I devoured them all in a weekend.

      When I was done he game me "Night of a Million Billion Ninjas".

      Ceribus and Tick are like chocolate and peanut butter.

      You got your Tick in my Ceribus!
      You got your Ceribus in my Tick!

  61. Why? by GrammarPhone · · Score: 1

    A simple question:

    Why did last night's series premiere episode suck so much ass?

    It was incredibly boring, and not nearly as fun and engrossing as the comics or the cartoon series. Jimmy Carter? A Russian robot? Lame. I thought the idea of a pilot episode was to attract people to the show, not run off your existing fan base.

    This is not a troll. I really feel that the show was far below what Mr. Edlund has shown he's capable of, and I wonder why it didn't translate to a live-action format. Too much network interference? Not enough budget? What happened?

  62. a god. by psychalgia · · Score: 1

    you are a god. I have always loved the Tick, and after the cartoon went off the air i spiraled into a sea of self loathing and lost my nye-invulnerable status. So glad to see you back in the royalty business.

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    1. Re:a god. by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 1

      and lost my nye-invulnerable status.

      I think you mean you lost your "nigh-invulnerable" status.

      Unless, of course, you were granted your invulnerability by Bill Nye The Science Guy.

      --
      A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing -- Emo Phillips
  63. Megaton Man by pmancini · · Score: 1

    I lived in Boston in the 80's (college years) and 90's (working years) when you were there at New England Comics. I don't think I ever met you but I always thought it was cool that you were from the same area. I've enjoyed The Tick immensely. Another favorite of mine was Megaton Man. The humor in both books had many differences and some similarities. Both Characters were principly big and blue and idiot/savants. Both made outrageous speaches. Megaton Man made more hay out of Political Humor while The Tick seemed to be more pointed at mocking comic books in general. However on many occations even Megaton Man was clearly focused on mocking superheros. For example Mellow Yellow was clearly a mockery of The Green Lantern.

    My question is this: what was it about the timeperiod when you conceived and developed The Tick that made for the similarities between Megaton Man and The Tick in both their look and the humor? What was it about the comic book industry at the time that both you and Don Simpson picked up on?

    Your Fan,
    --Peter

  64. Obvious Question by jeff13 · · Score: 1



    Why a live action show???

    I've been a Tick fan since my pal Greg bought the comics first printing back in the days when Ronny RayGun was killing Terrorists and stealing oil. The comics were great, but when the animated show came from FOX, well, everything changed...

    The cartoon is FAR too brilliant to get into here. It's considered so well done it's been played on the Canadian arts channel BRAVO. Now, if a bunch of smug Toronto producers think your show is intellectual, well, the world is sure to be confused.

    But the important thing, of course, was that it was funny. FOX didn't understand and cancelled it. Now let's do the math shall we? The Simpsons is the longest running sitcom EVER. It's a cartoon. It makes millions annually. So when the Tick comes along, they canceled it and created a live show years later.

    WTF???

    Second question - Can Ben explain why the FOX network is run by morons? Can Ben elaborate on just how moronic (names please) these executives at FOX are?

    Thank you for your time Ben. And thanks for the TICK. SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON !!!

    1. Re:Obvious Question by MsGeek · · Score: 1

      Mod this WAY UP.

      --
      Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
    2. Re:Obvious Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Now, if a bunch of smug Toronto producers think your show is intellectual, well, the world is sure to be confused.


      Careful, your small-mindedness is showing.


      Please give the holier-than-thou Toronto-bashing a break.

    3. Re:Obvious Question by Luminous · · Score: 2

      Please Ben, bite the hand that feeds you.

      --
      This is not the way to build a lasting empire.
  65. What do they teach in school these days? by BillyGoatThree · · Score: 2

    'cuz it sure ain't reading.

    1) It wasn't the machine I found ridiculous and dated--in fact, the machine (and the concept) were very funny. It was the villians themselves. They weren't even remotely funny--it was like watching re-runs of the Batman TV show as put on by a high school drama team.

    2) Of course I don't expect them to play with fluffy bunnies. In fact, I thought Apocalypse Cow was side-splittingly funny. You see, I'm not *objecting* to anything. I'm asking if it is possible to have a prime-time show featuring jokes Evil Masterminds when so many people have just switched over from the evening news featuring the real thing.

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    324006
  66. Simple, straightforward by BurkeChowdah · · Score: 1

    How're you doing?????

    If you're a fan of the cartoon (or the creator) this will be funny, otherwise, this may seem odd. Much like the show...

    --
    (insert attempt to be witty here)
  67. Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you tell us the origins of Arthur's battle cry "Not in the face! Not in the face!"?

    1. Re:Thanks by quiller · · Score: 1

      I think that is just something from the Cartoon Series. The comic book Arthur is a little more serious, and spends a lot of time trying to get the Tick to face economic realities (particularly since they are generally his economics getting spent).

  68. Aurther .. your not .... 'Funny' are you ? by RembrandtX · · Score: 1

    cheers,

    didn't see the tv show. But i loved your comic. the OLD comic .. not the bazillion spinoffs.

    I used to own a comic shop in CT (Ground Zero) and I for sure carried your stuff (as well as M+Cheese and the few other indi comics that started to bring LIFE back into the whole deal.)

    my question is simply, where did the edge go ?
    The comic was Horribly witty, and .. well .. certainly reminded me a lot of a college guy writing a comic with his roomates (sometimes after drinking heavily).

    It was the perfect foil to the cookie cutter Marvel titles and X-spinoffs that were leaving my shop in the boat load.(this WAS the late 80's early 90's) And simple jokes were easy to convey.
    As well as just generally being a spoof on the whole stuper-hero thing.

    The cartoon was almost as good, a little 'dumb-ed' down for tv .. but you have to expect that.

    I did notice that you started to slip some after the '7 months without a comic' pause, but i can understand finding things less funny at that point.

    Now .. *PART* of the whole independant comic thing in the 90's was that they were *NOT* marvel (or DC i suppose .. but they were even worse then .. this was pre-frank miller) And that they were small publishing companies.

    You guys, the turtle guys, hell .. even .. err God I forgot his name ... the biker looking guy who ALWAYS had an american flag bandada, and wrote that REALLY wierd book with lots of skin in it. [mind like a steel sive] We're all in NorthHampton / Amherst -- and the humour of that area certainly showed *grin*

    Everyone LOVED that it was a 'secret' type of comic, one that mid 80's obsessive little plastic bagging comic geeks didn't have .. but the D&D, partying on UMass Campus (sometimes with duct-tape covered foam boffers *hangs head in shame*) type of geek COULD find at my shop .. or Crossroad Comics, or .. whatever Jon's other shop was named *grin* .. and laugh about.

    [took me a long time to get to the REAL question .. sorry]

    So .. When .. do *YOU* think the edge vanished.
    Was it when it went 'mainstream' .. hit saturday morning prime time ? When NEC's first-rat-hole-like office flooded with rain water ? At what point did you find yourself writing for a more mainstream audiance, and not for the off-beat Umass geeks ?

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    --Ne auderis delere orbem rigidum meum, non erravi pernicose!
  69. Is James Fasci a complete dick? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey Ben,

    Is your old high school buddy James Fasci a complete dick, or what?

  70. Who makes up all the characters and villians? by Sonicboom · · Score: 1

    I'm a big fan of the Tick, and I really loved last nite's show.

    Do you make up all the characters and villians?

    Last nite I was laughing my ass off about Bat Manuel - he was soo funny. Did you make him?

    How much input does Chris McCulloch have? I went to college w/ Chris, and I've always been a big fan of his work (from his original comic book "Cement Shoes" to his present work w/ The Monkeysuit http://www.monkeysuit.com), and I know Chris is a involved w/ the new Tick show.

    Do all the writers equally contribute, or are all these characters yours?

    A fan in NJ.

    --
    [Connection closed by foreign host]
  71. Why "SPOON!!!"? by nick_burns · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Where did you come up with The Tick's world famous battle cry?

  72. Mad Bomber? by MrWinkey · · Score: 1

    Dear Sir,

    Please tell me if you/they will bring back the "mad bomber who bombs at midnight baby, yea baby yea!"
    He was my favorite and still very quoteable.

    --
    Vote early. Vote often. Vote CowboyNeal.
  73. oh goody by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When can we expect to see a BEOWULF CLUSTER of ticks on your show? Real soon I hope!

    Love,
    CmdrTaco *wink*

  74. A question I've pondered for a long time.. by Varmint01 · · Score: 1

    I came up with a theory about The Tick way back when I first watched it, and I'd like to know if I'm anywhere near correct...
    Are most of the jokes references to movies that don't actually exist? Are you able to jump to another dimension, watch their movies and TV shows, then come back here and make reference to them in The Tick? That seemed to be the most rational, down-to-Earth, believable explaination for the incredible creativity and unpredictability of it all.

  75. DVD by AdventureExtreme · · Score: 1

    Ben,
    you rule!
    Have any news on the release of the animated series on DVD? or even, *gasp*, VHS?

  76. Der Fledermaus! by ishmalius · · Score: 1

    Hee.
    There's no 'i' in it at all!
    It's a subtle ploy from the minions of Injustice! ;-)

  77. Amazing! by kob43 · · Score: 1

    Where did his pockets come from????

    --


    Kiss my bass.
  78. Meta-Humor Potential? by LittleGuy · · Score: 1

    Will we see any potential meta-humor on future shows concerning the Sony/Fox Copyright issue?

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    Mod Karma -1: I sed bad wurds. If I cep my mouf shut, I wud be at riyses.
  79. NINJAS by kob43 · · Score: 1

    Tell me there will be Ninjas...

    cleverly disguised as a hedge.

    --


    Kiss my bass.
  80. Family Guy? Puh-leeeze.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    What the hell do people see in that crap ass show? It's a TOTAL Simpsons rip-off.. Seeing that crap given a decent timeslot while the genius that is Futurama is banished to Sundays at 7pm is why Fox sucks.

  81. Bat manuel and captian liberty by geekoid · · Score: 2

    They really didn't do anything for the show. Maybe its because, at some level, I am comparing them to 2 certain other animated Tick heros.
    Since you have to change the heros anyway why not go for a good batman and wonder woman parody?
    It seems the potential for humor there is far greater then the 2 sex starved morons they seem to be.

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    The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
    1. Re:Bat manuel and captian liberty by WillSeattle · · Score: 1

      Have to disagree. Though Captain Liberty added a certain something, especially in regards to her costume and the opportunity to have some characters with obvious inconsistencies.

      Thought the Bat Manuel character needed a bit more work, though. The cast was kind of a cool touch, however.

      Can we expect some better wording for these two characters in the near future?

      -

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      --- Will in Seattle - What are you doing to fight the War?
  82. Why is this even on Slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Tick fucking sucks!

  83. Two questions by Flounder · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Ben, been a huge avid fan of The Tick since issue 1. Still got all my issues (including my uncut #2) and still read them on occasion. Got every episode of the cartoon series, still watch them on occasion (and to introduce my 4 year old boys to The Tick).

    Here's my questions...

    As the creator / executive producer / high goddess of all that is Tick-y, what would be the one thing you wish to be done with the new live action show? Guest appearances? (BTW, nice shot of you and Barry on the couch) Better special effects? Hot dog cut into a little octopus?

    And second, since it appears that characters from the cartoon exclusively will not be appearing due to copyright issues, can you give us a brief list of those that might appear from the comic? Chairface Chippendale? Chainsaw Vigilante? Paul the Samurai? Man Eating Cow?

    Thanks for making Thurday night TV watchable again.

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    No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. - Cmdr. Susan Ivanova

    1. Re:Two questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about Dinasaur Neil?!!

  84. Sewer Urchin... by KajiCo · · Score: 0

    Where is Sewer Urchin?

  85. Sources of inspiration by MikeyNg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    To me, the Tick was always a satire of his genre. You made fun of Batman, Wonder Woman, Galactus, etc., etc. My question would be: With the series moving to live-action TV, would you be satiring other things? Making fun of Galactus would go over the heads of most your audience. However, targetting Friends or Survivor would surely hit the spot. (Survivor especially, given your current time slot.) Where is the comedy and the storyline going to come from?

    --
    Where the wind blows, the tumbleweed goes.
    1. Re:Sources of inspiration by WillSeattle · · Score: 1

      A satire of Friends for one episode would actually be quite funny.

      Of course, the Diner is their hangout, as we all know.

      --
      --- Will in Seattle - What are you doing to fight the War?
  86. It says so in the old interview by UberQwerty · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Before you start typing, you may want to read this May 2000 interview with Ben

    That's what you should have done. It says in there:

    At the beginning, I thought it would be good to have a kind of a CGI (computer-generated imagery) pair of eyes that more perfectly matched what was going on in the comic book design, the cartoon design. But first of all, the cost of that, for a series, you know maybe for a feature it would be fine, but for a series, is prohibitive.

    This may have lead you to believe that they wouldn't have done computer-generated antennae. However, if that doesn't convince you...

    We had to body cast Patrick Warburton, and build a giant rubber suit, and remote control antennae...

    --


    PUBLIC SPLIT ON WHETHER BUSH IS A DIVIDER -CNN scrolling banner, 10/15/2004
    1. Re:It says so in the old interview by blair1q · · Score: 2

      We had to body cast Patrick Warburton, and build a giant rubber suit, and remote control antennae...

      And here I thought they just painted him.

      --Blair

  87. Jimmy Carter by DaveBarr · · Score: 1

    The pilot had an elevator scene with Jimmy Carter, or rather a rather poorly done character stand-in. Did you try to see if Jimmy Carter himself would be willing to do a cameo? I haven't seen Jimmy act, but I think the scene would have been much funner with him really there.

  88. This is getting annoying by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1

    I seriously doubt that the terrorists' goal was to stifle the artistic license of TV show writers. If that were the case they'd have crashed a plane into some Hollywood studio.

    I agree with the main point of your comment, but it seems like the latest trend is that every time someone says or does something someone else doesn't like the affected party retorts with the bizarre claim that the offenders are "doing the work of the terrorists". This is along the lines of calling everyone on the left a "commie" and everyone on the right a "nazi". It is a hackneyed and empty response.

    It's getting to the point where people who double-park will start being accused of "doing the work of the terrorists".

    --
    It is by the juice of the coffee bean that thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains. The stains become a warning
    1. Re:This is getting annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, people who double-park are just buttwipes.

  89. The future of the superhero genre by Have+Blue · · Score: 2

    Often, when a genre begins producing self-mocking works, it's a sign that there is little life left in it. Witness the effect Scream had on the horror genre, or, more relevantly, the effect of Watchmen on modern comics. Do you think there is still room left in the world for classic superhero stories?

    1. Re:The future of the superhero genre by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      IMO, it's the opposite. If a genre takes itself too seriously, it's probably knocking on death's door.

      --
      Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
  90. Actor seeks work. by CleverNickName · · Score: 5, Funny

    So can I be on your show, or what?

    :)

    1. Re:Actor seeks work. by terrymah · · Score: 1

      I think you'd make a good Arthur.

    2. Re:Actor seeks work. by UberDork · · Score: 1

      Hey! If *he* is on your show, can I be too?? I reckon I'd be good because: I am not as funny as him (No threat to anyone); I don't do stand-up, TV, or movies (Nothing to constrain the discussion); I don't have a web-site (Well, I do but I don't like it anyway); I am a much bigger geek (OK..maybe just a little bit bigger). Sorry. No, really. Sorry.

    3. Re:Actor seeks work. by ThePlague · · Score: 0

      I would imagine you could play a grown-up Brainchild, reduced to robbing convenience and video stores to fund a website where he explains that he is, in fact, not evil, rather misunderstood in a post-Columbine world.
      I can almost hear The Tick's moralistic monologue: "The straight and narrow is a wide and twisting road, fraught with nefarious construction and tempting exits. So too is the internet, though at least there the "Under Construction" signs are animated. Brainchild learned, once again, that the straight and narrow is a hard road, but it feels so good. It feels so good."

  91. Creative Control by CleverNickName · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How much creative control do you have, and how much will you maintain, if the show is a success?

    I have firsthand experience with the idiocy of networks, so I'd be very interested to hear how you pitched the idea.

    I'd also like you to know that I have been a fan from issue number 1, and used to curse your being in college, and not being able to put out new issues. Paul the Samurai is one of my favorite characters, in any medium, of all time.

  92. Where can I get a phrase book of Tick quotes? by WillSeattle · · Score: 1

    Really. I mean, they are so cool.

    That Java demon line, and a bunch of others just made my day.

    Plus, could you create a random Tick quote generator web page?

    May the great light of freedom shine softly upon your curly hair!

    -

    --
    --- Will in Seattle - What are you doing to fight the War?
  93. Alternative to Spoon by Tim+Macinta · · Score: 1
    ("Spoon!"), is there any hope in sight for a resolution that would allow the use of these copyrights?

    If they can't come to a resolution maybe they could take a page from the Emacs/XEmacs playbook and fork the storyline.

    I'm sorry, I know that was bad but I couldn't resist.

  94. The evolution of the Tick's character by Multiple+Sanchez · · Score: 1

    Ever since the original comic you penned yourself, the Tick has become progressively less "deadpan" and more "goofy." This in contrast to Arthur, whose live-action and cartoon incarnations seem fairly consistent with the comic books. How has your concept of the Tick's personality changed (if at all) having rendered him in three different media, and has it been influenced by the way other artists have depicted him in the spin-offs (Karma Tornado, etc) that you authorized?

    Also -- do you object to the fact that my nickname on this website is derived from name of Tick villain "Multiple Santa"? And if so, what are you going to do about it, rich guy?

  95. ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We all wish you had resisted!

  96. The Bad Guys [tm] by Etrigan_696 · · Score: 1

    On the back of issue #1, there's a full page dedicated to the future bad guys the Tick will fight. Since mine is sealed in acid free mylar, waterproofed and burried in a concrete and steel bunker 47 miles below my house, I'm going off memory here: There's a dolphin in a tank of water, there's a baby in a robotic walker thing, there's a big brown guy with hedgehog quills in a tuxedo, there's a roman centurion with an aquaduct on his head, there's the "armed militant amish commandos", there's a big guy made of black rock, there's a bunch of ninjas (of course)...
    so here's the question:
    Lots of people have asked about Paul the Samurai and speak and American Maid - but any chance we'll finally see the dolphin character developed, or maybe the Roman god of aquaducts? Or finally learn who this giant porcupine is? I mean, I loved the Red Scare, the Chainsaw Vigilante (my absolute favorite), chairface chippendale, and the Man Eating Cow... But how about moving on and doing some of those villans you showed us oh-so-many years ago with the first issue from NEC?

    1. Re:The Bad Guys [tm] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the Roman God of the Aquaduct is name Agrippa as I recall. He is a super Hero in NYC where the tick goes and fights the other tick. (in the comic)

    2. Re:The Bad Guys [tm] by caldodge · · Score: 1
      Do you mean issue #_12_?. I seem to recall it also featured "The Terror" (still planning evil acts at age 118 ("Evil is evergreen, chum!"))


      I suppose "the dolphin in a tank of water" could be "Mr. Smarty Pants", who made his debut in "The Tick vs. Reno, Nevada". That was, IMHO, the WORST 2nd season episode - but it wasn't written by Ben.


      Fortunately, it was followed by "Grandpa Wore Tights", which was one of the best eps.

  97. Re:Didn't anyone on your crew notice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How is this offtopic? Liz Vassey is in the new live-action Tick series, as are her areolas.

  98. It's in a TV episode... by RyanFenton · · Score: 1



    During the episode
    "The Tick Vs. Arthur's Bank Account" where the Tick gets rather excited about "Upgrading the Apparatus!", he and Arthur are sitting there while the Tick is yogourt or something.

    The Tick decides that the time has come to come up with heroic battle cries both to cheer Arthur up, and to further his cause for justice. Tick looks at himself in the spoon, with his image all convoluted and happy, and shouts - "Spooooon!". Arthur does not complain, but instead thinks a little, and realises what he's say when danger rears it's ugly head - "Not in the Face! Not in the Face!". They practice their calls a few times, and a few scenes later, and they are trying them out in battle.

    :^)

    Ryan Fenton

  99. Antennas..antennis(?)...How do the damn ears work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I want to know how the antennas work. They are amazing! They totally express how the Tick is feeling at any given time (you don't even have to look at his face). I'm guessing that they are computer generated but I couldn't find any faults (i.e. lighting, shadows, etc. are all spot on) so maybe you are using some sort of advanced 'Muppet-technology'?


    Anyway, great show! I'm a fan of all three formats (comic, cartoon, and now live action). I hope to see many more episodes of The Tick.

  100. Yeah, but did you see next week episode summary? by WillSeattle · · Score: 1

    My oh my, that's going to be fun ...

    "The Immortal is coming to town for a book signing and Captain Liberty has been assigned to escort him around to his appearances. However, she has not been assigned to hop into the sack with him, but she does. And, the Immortal proves to be mortal after all - he drops dead in the middle of their lovemaking. Shocked and not sure what to do, Captain Liberty calls her super hero friends and they try to cover for her. Batmanuel dresses up like the Immortal so that he can complete the book signing while at the same time The Tick and Arthur try to remove the Immortal's body from her loft and take him back to his hotel. "

    --
    --- Will in Seattle - What are you doing to fight the War?
  101. Re:Family Guy? Puh-leeeze.. by doctor+negative · · Score: 1

    So I love the Simpsons, but, let's face it, it borrows a lot from the Flintstones which borrowed pretty directly from the Honeymooners. So does Family Guy owe a little to the Simpsons? Sure, but so what, it's still funny. As for Futurama, it's got a ways to go before you can start calling it genius. The Simpsons occasionally hits genius (although not lately) but The Family has several episodes that I thought were at least really funny. Copying is not a crime, any artist who tells you they're 100% original is either lying or just stupid.

  102. Other Live Action Cartoons? by realdpk · · Score: 1

    What's next on your plate? May I suggest "Thundercats"?

  103. Re:Family Guy? Puh-leeeze.. by Pxtl · · Score: 2

    umm, dood, futurama is the same genious as old Simpsons. The good writers left Simpsons to work on Futurama. Its the same stuff.

  104. CleverNickName - Wil Wheaton (aka Wesley Crusher) by kaladorn · · Score: 1

    Just pointing this out to anyone who might not have made the connection. This makes his last comment rather hilarious, really.

    Wil, you've got a damn good sense of humor man. I doubly-recant any prior anti-Wesleyan diatribes...

    Also, I'd like to know WHAT you'd like to go on the Tick as? Have you a villain or hero in mind?

    --
    -- Mal: "Well they tell you: never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious."
  105. Re:CleverNickName - Wil Wheaton (aka Wesley Crushe by Year+Round+Produce · · Score: 1

    You haven't cast "Feral Boy" yet have you?

  106. Oh please! by zrk · · Score: 1

    I think we *really* want to waste a half hour of or lives watching HIM.

  107. Re: (aka Wesley Crusher) by zorgon · · Score: 2
    kaladorn saith:

    I doubly-recant any prior anti-Wesleyan diatribes...


    Dude, you have it all wrong.


    1. Wil rocks
    2. Wesley must die.die.die


    Peace...

    --

    I am quite civilized, and I should be brought a beer immediately. -- Bruce Sterling

  108. out of curiosity... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what is goatse *not* a cure for?

  109. Tick DVD? by KillerBees · · Score: 1

    Any chance we will see a The Tick DVD? (Please say yes...)

  110. Titan AE & writing for Hollywood by Gorimek · · Score: 2

    I was thrilled when Titan AE came out and two of the three script writers were the creators of my absolute favorite TV shows. That's you, and Joss Whedon of Buffy fame.

    I was surprised when I eventually saw the movie and found very little of that creative genius making any imprint in the final product. Later I've seen Joss talk about how writers are treated as crap in Hollywood, as opposed to TV where they're pretty powerful. "[about Atlantis] The movie they made has nothing to do with that treatment, but I'm happier having my name on that movie than on Titan A.E."

    So to get to the question, do you have any commment on Hollywood writing as opposed to TV, the Titan AE experience, or working with Joss Whedon (if you did). If you can't really answer honestly for fear of insulting powerful showbiz moguls, signal it by using a lot of fish and poultry references in your answer.

    For reference: here is the full Whedon interview
    http://avclub.theonion.com/avclub3731/avfeature_37 31.html
    http://avclub.theonion.com/avclub3731/avfeature_37 31b.html

  111. Re:Family Guy? Puh-leeeze.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    No need to fight; you are both wrong in equal measure. The Family Guy and Futurama both suck big hairy donkey balls. Neither show has ever been, nor ever will be, funny.

    Bow down before the might of Hank Hill!

  112. Re:Paul the Samurai, Karma Tornado -- what happene by Golias · · Score: 2
    Then at some point
    the Tick stopped being funny. Man Eating Cow, Karma Tornado, all the spin-offs besides Paul The Samurai were terrible from the beginning. I
    never could figure out why this was.

    Two words: Ben Edlund.

    He created the tick, along with the 12 brilliant original issues.

    Then, he started developping the cartoon series, and didn't have time. (His pace for the last few issues was agonizingly slow to begin with.)

    So New England Comics, to keep up with the demand, created two spin-offs and started a new Tick series, all with different writers. Some of it was okay, but none of it really measured up to the original, or even succeeded in capturing the tone of Edlund's writing.

    Edlund went on to do a lot of writing on the cartoon, and later created the new series. He has not done a Tick comic since issue 12 was released in May of 1993.

    --

    Information wants to be anthropomorphized.

  113. delay for series.. by JofCoRe · · Score: 1

    According to what I've read on some other sites:

    This series was originally slated to air in Mid-Season 2000-2001, likely in place of The Simpsons. But, due to the possible SAG actor's strike, Fox chose (after airing a few on-air promotions for the show) to hold it back for the fall, so as to have original content to run in case the strike shut Hollywood down.
    Also postponed from November 1st, due to the World Series.

    or go to http://www.tvtome.com/servlets/EpisodeGuideSummary /showid-3832/
    to read it for yourself :)

    --

    Place sig here.
  114. Question about live acting by Majik+Sznak · · Score: 1
    Firstly, let me say that the pilot was well done. Stylistically, it was good. The roof hopping would be better if it were more exuberant, but I don't know how peppy someone in a heavy rubber suit can be... Patrick Warburton does a fantastic job with the facial expressions!


    The question: Patrick seemed to dip into an unidentified accent (Yosemite Sam?) a couple of times. Was that intentional? Admittedly, it sounded strange to me because I'm used to the voice acting on the cartoon...

    --
    Karma: Chameleon (Mostly affected by the 1980s)
  115. smart? by pyrrho · · Score: 1

    Is the Tick unintelligent? or is he really really smart?

    --

    -pyrrho

    1. Re:smart? by caldodge · · Score: 1
      He's insane, silly.


      "You're not going crazy, Arthur. You're going sane in a crazy world!"

      "Isn't sanity really just a one trick pony, anyway? I mean, all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy - OOH OOH OOH OOH - the sky's the limit! "


      See issue #1 of the comic book - he started out by making his escape from an asylum (while being monitored by a familiar-looking scientist).

  116. Million Zillion Ninjas? by sinster · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I know you get asked this with every Tick project that you do, but here it is again: are you guys open to the idea of redoing The Night of the Million Zillion Ninjas for the live action series? That story line was always the cornerstone of The Tick in my mind. I think it would work well in the live action. And since, in the previous interview, you mentioned that you might bring Paul the Samurai into the live action series, NofMZN seems like the perfect way to do it.

    --
    -- Nolite audere delere orbiculum rigidum meum.
  117. Continuity and culture references by sinster · · Score: 1

    I've always loved the back references in The Tick comic and cartoon. Both references to previous episodes (like "CHA" carved into the moon) and cultural references (the opening shot of the diner scene in the first issue of the comic). Do you intend to follow in that "tradition" in the live-action series?

    --
    -- Nolite audere delere orbiculum rigidum meum.
  118. Re:Paul the Samurai, Karma Tornado -- what happene by oldperson · · Score: 1

    I was a big fan of the comic up until they started interleaving the storylines into other titles. I didn't feel the need to buy every single comic they published just to follow the one I cared about. (That's what killed Marvel. They overused a tactic that increases sales up to the point where people quit buying completely.)

    If it comes down to marketing vs creamy artistic integrity, marketing's going to win isn't it?

  119. Re:CleverNickName - Wil Wheaton (aka Wesley Crushe by SupaYoda · · Score: 1

    Acting is fun because it gives you the opportunity to do things that you'd never do in real life, and given such, villains are simply more fun... An excuse to be naughty... Unless of course, you are like me. I'm already quite the villainess (just ask my coworkers), and I must say it's the most fun I've ever had! *sigh* I need to be spanked.

    I'm telling you, Wil. You should definitely go for a bad guy roll. I, for one, would LOVE to see an Evil Wesley vs. Tick slap fight!

  120. Re:CleverNickName - Wil Wheaton (aka Wesley Crushe by Zalgon+26+McGee · · Score: 1

    I'm sure I speak for many when I selflessly volunteer to spank you.

    --

    ---

    Book(n): Utensil used to pass time while waiting for the TV repairman

  121. Re:Family Guy? Puh-leeeze.. by seann · · Score: 0

    hahaha

    "It was like that time where brian taught me about christopher columbus"
    *zooms around in invisible car with oddly wide outlines on cartoon character bodys mimicing that old 70s show with the kid and dog*
    *peters talks very fast*
    *dog tells him to shut up*

    --
    I'm a big retard who forgot to log out of Slashdot on Mike's computer! LOOK AT ME.
  122. Re:Family Guy? Puh-leeeze.. by seann · · Score: 0

    or the first episode
    with the court
    and stuey
    "oh no" 'oh no!' *kool aid man breaks through wall*
    "Oh yah!!!!!"

    --
    I'm a big retard who forgot to log out of Slashdot on Mike's computer! LOOK AT ME.
  123. Re:Family Guy? Puh-leeeze.. by seann · · Score: 0

    or anytime stuey talks to his mom

    "eat your greens stuey"
    'goto hell woman!!'

    --
    I'm a big retard who forgot to log out of Slashdot on Mike's computer! LOOK AT ME.
  124. He is right by cmdrTacosBitch · · Score: 1

    Kelly had just finished the last summer cheerleading practice.She was the first girl in ten years to make the squad their freshman year. Several of the other cheerleaders were upset. Kelly wasn't concerned about their thoughts. She shyed away from others and had very few friends. She didn't believe in the clicks people got into. Kelly is one of the prettiest girls in school. Shoulder length reddish blonde hair, acute face with a small button nose, and always smiled. Breasts the size of small grapefruits with nipples same size as quarters. Flat slightly sculptured belly, slender waist, narrow hips, small plump butt and perfectly shaped legs. All wrapped into a 5'4" 115pds frame. After showering Kelly dried herself, as she went to her locker. She noticed four girls across from her locker talking and snickering. Kelly ignored them. After slipping her cotton bikini pantys on, she grabbed her bra. Somebody had cut the straps. There was no way she'd be able to wear it now. She turned around to confront the now, laughing girls. They quickly walked out of the lockeroom. Kelly put on her low cut tank top, and shorts. After throwing her stuff into her bag, she headed out. Her breasts stood just as if she had a bra on. Her breasts firmly jiggled as she walked to the bus stop. Kelly was headed downtown to the library first. Then to a movie. Kelly had noticed lately that boys as well as men were looking her over as she walked by. Today more so than ever. After she got off the bus downtown. She went to walking the 4 blocks to the library. When a old black man walked out of a alley. Hey there. Where you headed? (shyly and quietly) Oh, hi. I'm going to have lunch with my dad. Kelly walked a little faster. She didn't notice that the old black man was following her. Kelly went into the library and looked over a couple of books untill it was time to go to the movie. She looked up. Over a few tables was the old black man. Since she had noticed men looking her way. Kelly was starting to become a tease. So, she walked his way to put the books away. She knew he wouldn't do anything in public place. When she was in front of him. She dropped the books. Bending over to pick them up. (without bending her knees) Her tank top layed so the old black man could get a good look at her white breasts. The old black man's mouth dropped open. Oh! Excuse me. (acting as it was an acident) Kelly headed to the movie. Which was a couple of blocks away. She loved the reaction she had got from the old man. The movie Kelly wanted to see was sold out. She wanted to see a movie. So, she got a ticket to another. Then she saw that another was starting and it was rated R and nobody was around. She went on in. Hardly anybody was there. Kelly sat towards the back . The movie started. When a nude scene started someone came and sat by her. She didn't even pay any mind. She in awe of what was on the screen. This was her first R movie. There on the screen was a black slave climbing on top of his master's white wife to have sex. Kelly liked the sight of the slave's black skin on the white woman's body. Kelly didn't even realize the person beside her had placed their hand onto her knee. But, when he moved his huge hand upto her thigh. Kelly regained her awareness. She turned. It was the old black man. She tried to push his hand away. He just leaned over and kissed her neck. He kissed his way down to the tops of her white breasts. As he moved his hand upto her shorts. He kissed the tops of her breasts as he rubbed her crotch. He then unbuttoned and unzipped her shorts. Even though she liked the sight of his black face to her white chest area. She knew she had to do something before he got any further. She thought to herself (that she shouldn't have teased this old man) As the old black man started pulling at the young white girl's shorts. Stop. Or I'll scream. At this time an usher was making his rounds. Kelly got up to leave. The usher stopped her. your not old enough to see this movie. I know. I came into the wrong movie by acident. Kelly left and went home. It had been several weeks since the incident with the old black man. School had started. Pro football season had started the week before, and Kelly's school was going to have their first game tomorrow morning. Today they were having a pep rally at the end of the school day. Kelly stopped over Stacy's house for awhile. It was about 6:00p.m. Kelly hurried home to help set up things for her dad's party. Every month her dad and some of his friends would get together and have a few drinks and discuss sports. This was her dad's turn to have it at his house. When she got home. Her dad told Kelly that her mother had went out with aunt Mae and that she'd be out late. Kelly helped her dad set things up. Most of the guys were there. Kelly fixed herself something to eat and took it to her room. She turned on the stereo as she ate. It was about 8:15 now and Kelly decided she'd take swim as it was unseasonabley warm tonight. Kelly danced around to the music as she got her bikini out. Without thinking she took her top and bra off. She was in front of the window and hadn't pulled the blinds down. She looked outside and noticed Mr. Turner looking up at her. Mr.Turner was retired runningback from the local pro team. He was black very muscular. He stood about 6 feet tall and weighed around 235 pounds. Kelly was so embarassed. She hurried away from the window and put on her bikini. She thought about not swimming. But, after a half hour she went on down to swim. As she tried to sneak by the rec room. Mr. Turner walked out and almost bumped into her. Oh! Hi. Didn't mean to run you down. Kelly couldn't even speak. By the way. I didn't mean to stare earlier. It isn't everyday you see such beauty. That's ok. (very quietly) As she went onto swim. Kelly swam and relaxed poolside for a couple hours. She went on upto the bathroom and took a shower. Dried herself. Then, slipped on a robe. She went across the hall to her bedroom. As Kelly entered her room she looked to see who was coming up the stairs. It was Mr. Turner. May I use the restroom. Sure. Kelly pushed at the door. The door sounded like it closed. But, it came open slightly. Kelly saw Mr. Hicks looking through his upstairs window towards her. He must be around 73 years old. Kelly turned on the radio and started dancing. Her robe came open. Mr. Hicks just stared as she danced. Kelly turned off the overhead light after turning a lamp on. She thought to her self. She'd realy give Mr.Hicks a surprise. She slipped her robe off. Exposing her totaly naked body to him. After all he was in his house and to old to do anything. She danced around for a few more seconds. Then she layed down on her bed. Mr.Hicks still had view of her. Kelly was turning into a real tease and was liking it. She rolled over onto her belly, so that Mr.Hicks would get a good look at her butt. She heard the bathroom door open. She glanced at a mirror across the room, and noticed her door was open slightly. She thought about getting up and closing it. But it was to late. Mr.Turner was in the hallway next to her doorway. Kelly acted to be asleep. After a few seconds she heard the door close. Kelly figured that he pulled the door closed. But, when she heard some movement. She became terrified. She kept her eyes shut as if she was sleeping. She then felt Mr.Turner run his hand up the back of her white thigh. Kelly trembled as he caressed her young white buns. She instantly felt herself getting wet inside. Mr.Turner kissed her white butt. Kelly liked this but knew it was wrong. She turned over onto her back. Don't! Then she saw him. Totaly naked huge black man. Huge biceps, a very muscular chest, ripple tummy. Kelly let out a quiet gasp as she noticed his huge erect penis. It must be 11inches long and realy fat. She couldn't get her eyes off of his huge black monstercock. Mr.Turner walked upto her face. Suck on it. No! as she thought ( that would be gross) He rubbed his black cock across her lips a couple times. He then went to the foot of the bed and knelt down. He kissed the young white girl's thighs working his way up. Don't! Stop! I'll scream. As squeezed her legs together. He kissed her blonde pubic hair, then lower belly. Kelly became speachless as he kissed white belly and licked at her bellybutton. Mr.Turner wasn't going to take a no for an answer at this point. He kissed his way to her teenage white breasts. He kissed and sucked at her nipples at the same time ran his hand to her young pussy. Kelly let out a moan, as he inserted his finger inside her. She tried to push him away. Even though she was enjoying what he was doing. Kelly knew this was bad and besides he would most likely rip her in half. Mr.Turner rubbed at her teenage pussy for moment to lubricate the outside of her pussylips. Mr.Turner climbed onto the bed to mount her little white body. Kelly held her legs together. Please don't It will hurt me. It only will hurt for a moment. Ohhh! As Mr.Turner rubbed his huge black cock up and down her little pussy. He pushed forward. No penetration. He gave big shove forward. Still no penetration of the little white girl's pussy. He pushed again and finaly managed to get his cockhead inside her. Kelly tightened up. He pushed a little deeper. She felt his huge black cock press against her hyman. She knew that one more push would pop her cherry. Just as he drew back. A knock at the door. Kelly! Kelly! Are you awake. As the door opened. Mr.Turner jumped off the side of the bed. Hi dear. Mmmom! Yes. Are you ok? ya. Dad, said you'd be late. The movie was sold out. So, I came home early. Are you sure? That you are ok. Yes. Just tired. I've told you to pull the blinds down. You are old enough now that guys will love to see you dress and undress. You sure seem nervouse. Is there anything wrong? No mom! Well, you look flush and sweaty. I'll get the thermetor. No. That's ok. I'm alright. Ok. Call for me if you need me. Goodnight. Goodnight mom. Kelly was trembleing. Mr.Turner jumped up and dressed and quietly went back downstairs where there were still a few men gathered having their last drink. Kelly finaly fell asleep a couple hours later. But, within another hour she woke up from a bad dream. Her mother rushed in and comforted her. Kelly couldn't tell her mother that she dreamed about being raped by twelve black men. After this Kelly quit teasing men for a couple weeks. She started slowly once more. She would mostly like old black men. She would go without a bra and leave a button undone then lean over in front of them. During the holiday vacation. When her parents were at work. Kelly even went totaly naked. Except a long winter coat. She rode the public bus all the way downtown. She aboat croaked when an old black man sat beside her. They talked awhile. He was headed to work. He was going to retire in the spring, after 40 years of service. When he looked the other way. Kelly undid the top button of her coat. Which exposed just a little of the tops of her white breasts. Your a very pretty young lady. You need to be careful. Someone may try to have their way with you. I can take care of myself. Here's my stop. Take care. Kelly felt ashamed. She stopped such things. Untill the last day of school. She had worn her white blouse and plaid skirt.(the catholic school girl look) She decided to walk home since it was very nice day out and school let out early. She was walking through the park. She was nearing the walk bridge across the creek. She heard some voices coming from under the car bridge nearby. There were three black hobos. There was nobody else in sight. They were washing theirselves in the creek. She starred at them. They only had their pants on. But, she liked the sight o their black chests. Kelly also knew that they would most likely see her cross the walkway. She was realy excited. After a moment she slipped her bra then pantys off and put them in her backpack. This excited her. Even though they were to far away to notice. She only had two blocks to go to get home from the park. When she walked across the walkway. The men whistled and yelled to her. They were close enough to see that she was a pretty girl. Kelly liked this but ignored them. But, then she noticed they were following her. She picked up her pace. A short distance from the street. They caught her. One of the black hobos grabbed her. Turned her around. Man! We're goin to have a good time today. As he saw her quarter sized pink nipples poking through her blouse. Then a cop drove by. Then backed up. The men ran off. Mam! Were they bothering you? As the cop walked upto her. No sir. He was a tall black man in his fortys. He took a double take when he noticed her pirky breasts through her blouse. You need to watch how you dress. Your asking for trouble. That night she dreamed of Mr.Turner fucking her. She woke up in a sweat. She was showering when her parents yelled in at her. Honey! We're headed to work early. Kelly wondered more and more what it would feel like to be fucked by a black man. Mr.Turner was very gentle with her. She couldn't believe how close she came to being fucked. Kelly thought to herself-(I know it's wrong. But, I'm going to find out today) She put on her bikini pantys then bra and her summer sundress. After slipping on shoes she went downtown on the bus. Remembering the first experience with an old black man. She walked towards the alley where she first saw him. It was almost 10:00a.m. Ahead was a tall old black man. It might even be the same man. Kelly acted as if she didn't notice him. She walked as if going to the library. Hey baby! Don't you say hi to your friends? So, she knew he was the same man and he remembered her. Oh. Hi. (acting not to be interested) Hey! You want a puppy. (Knowing this was a ploy) (Even though she was scared-she was going through with her plan) Sure! Where is it? Down here. In a box. Directing her to the alley. Kelly nervousely followed. I sleep here and this puppy came upto me and had no tags. A third of the way through the alley. There were stacks of large cardboard boxes with blankets on them. There were five other old black men laying on their blankets. Untill they seen her. Kelly started to leave. Not soon enough. They surrounded her. Don't I'll scream! One of the black men pulled out a knife. No you won't. Unless! Kelly stood there while the black men fondled her. Two of them fondled her breasts and two others played with her firm butt. One watched the street as one of the black men unzipped her sundress and slipped the straps off of her shoulders. Her dress fell to her ankles. Please! Don't hurt me. The man with the knife walked upto her. Not saying a word. Cut the right strap of her bra. With the other black men laughing he cut the left strap. Starring into her eyes he ran the knife across the tops of her breasts. Then suddenly cut her bra in half. Kelly's bra fell to the ground. Exposing her firm white breasts to the old black bums. They all got quiet. Starring at the young white girl. The black man put the knife up. Then with two hands grabbed her pantys and ripped them from her petite teenage body. Kelly felt herself getting wet. Even though she was terrified. Here she was a virgin about to be raped by six old black men in an alley downtown. She didn't even know if they would kill her or not. Kelly just watched as the man in front of her dropped his pants and undershorts. He was black as midnight. His cock was hard pointing towards her. It was smaller than Mr.Turner's. But, Kelly didn't see how it would fit into her. Kelly shaked like a leaf and tears started to run down her face. The black man's cock pressed against her belly as he stepped closer. He shoved her down onto a blanket. He knelt down and pushed her legs apart. She was to scared to fight back. She looked to the side as he mounted her. She noticed that the other men's dicks were larger and fatter. He whispered to her I'm the nice one. The others would just ram it inside you. He rubbed his black cock up and down her blonde pussy 4 or 5 times to slicken her up. He then pushed forward. Without sucess. Then another, and another. Your one tight chick. One more huge shove forward and Kelly felt his cockhead push inside her. Then another push and he was touching her hyman. He pulled back. Then with a smile gave a quick shove forward. Kelly screamed out in pain as his black dick ripped through her hyman. The black man took pleasure at the painful look on her face. Your just a spoiled white brat. As he slammed all 8 inches of his cock into her. Blood ran down her butt. He squeezed her white tits so hard she thought that they would pop. She felt his hairy black balls slamming against her white butt. The other black bums were urging him to hurry. They wanted their turn. The pain subsided after a couple minutes or so and Kelly was starting to enjoy the fucking she was getting. She wrapped her legs across the backs of his. Kelly let out moans of delight as the black man pounded his cock into her white pussy. She was about to climax when she felt the man cum inside her. With one more lunge forward. He pulled out of her. Who's next. She's a fine piece. The next black hobo ordered her to her hands and knees. Like a dog you know. After penetrating the young white girl from behind another got infront to force her to suck him. She learned quick how to suck. Kelly first thought it was gross to have a man's dick inside her mouth. After a couple minutes she even started enjoying cocksucking. The man behind her fucked her as hard and fast as he could. Making her buns and tits bounce around. She felt herself building to a climax again. This time she squeeled in delight as she climaxed and felt the black man cum inside her pussy. The old black man in front was cumming into her mouth as the man behind pulled his black cock out and squirted a couple times across her butt. The two black men quickly stepped away from the petite white girl. When another layed beside her and directed her on top of him. Kelly sat on his 12 inch black snake. She let out a gasp in dispair as the last 4 inches went inside her. It was uncomfortable as he fucked her. But, after a moment it felt good being stretched this far. She figured he must have the biggest dick in the world. To her surprise one of remaining black men knelt behind her. He pushed her forward. He guided his 10inch black cock to her white butt. He gave a hard continued push. Kelly screamed and tears appeared again as she felt like she was being ripped in half. Without hesitation the black men fucked her hard and unmerciful. One in her white ass and the other in her blonde pussy. Even though it hurt after a few minutes of being double fucked. Kelly yelled out in another orgasm. As the black man inside her butt squirted streams and streams of cum inside her. Then the last black man traded places with the man that was buttfucking her. As he started buttfucking the teenage white girl. He yelled out. Hey! we're a oreo cookie. Kelly was getting exhausted and was going limp. It felt like she would pass out. Then she orgasmed again. After she came off of her third orgasm, the man pumped her white ass full of his black seed. He quickly withdrew from her as the man under her. Rolled over on top of her. He went to fucking his black 12 inch pole in and out of her as fast as he could. He sucked on her white breast. When he started cumming inside her he bit down. Kelly let out a yelp. This didn't stop her from climaxing again, for the fourth time. The man stood up. She was exhausted and just layed there. To her amazement they were still standing around naked. We want you to meet Bubba. Kelly was amazed when she saw Bubba. He was about 50yrs.old 6ft.6in. tall 220pds. His cock must be around 14 inches long. As he mounted Kelly's little white body. He told her that he was going to fuck her brains out. It looked like a black monster mounting a little white doll. He entered her slowly. Even though she had been reamed out several times. It was slow going for him to get his black cock into her. After getting 10 inches inside her white pussy. He started fucking her hard. After a few minutes his huge black balls were smacking against her white butt cheeks. Kelly orgasmed first. Then she felt him shoot a couple of squirts of cum inside her pussy. He pulled his huge black cock out of her and finished cumming all over her flat white belly. After he stepped back. She was surrounded by the other six black men. They jirked theirselves off all over her. She was drenched in cum. Her hair and face was covered with cum. Her white breasts, belly, pubic hair, pussy, and butt was also was covered with cum. She thought to herself I can't move. She figured that she was about to pass out with exhaustion. Kelly just layed there naked and covered with cum. The black men were dressed. When she saw reflections of flashing lights. The black men had went to the entrance of the alley. Kelly heard them talking to what seemed like police officers. She slowly got up and peeked around the corner. It was the police. She grabbed her sundress. As she walked out the otherside of the alley she slipped on the dress. Her shoes had fallen off during all the fucking. Her breasts, pussy, and butt ached from the pounding and stretching. She was drenched in cum which was starting to dry on her now. No place to clean up. Oops. Excuse me. She bumped into a lady. Are you ok. Yeh! Sure. Kelly walked three block as everyone starred at her. Since she was such a mess. People kept asking if she was ok. She got home on the bus. She threw her sundress in the washer, showered. Redressed and fell asleep on the coach.

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  125. Will the cartoon ever be released on DVD? by Sans_A_Cause · · Score: 1

    I can now get the entire Buffy season 1 on DVD, but what I've wanted for years are The Tick cartoons, all 3 seasons, on DVD. Any chance of that happening? I think only 2 episodes even made it to videotape.

  126. Re:CleverNickName - Wil Wheaton (aka Wesley Crushe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Um, is this Kaladorn from Ontario? Before I sound like a fool and give you a big cyber hug and sloppy cyber kiss, you know, I'd like to know -- because I don't indiscriminately molest people I don't know. (it's too early in the morning to be awake).

    Xandria, Vancouver, BC

    PS: I'm not a coward, I'm lazy!

  127. Re:CleverNickName - Wil Wheaton (aka Wesley Crushe by SupaYoda · · Score: 1

    *perk*

    Ooh! Spank me, whip me, make me install Linux and force me to translate Perl!

  128. Interference? by aka-ed · · Score: 2

    Last year, you said "the pilot is just kind of the beginning or like the tip of the iceberg in terms of how stupid and odd we could get, and that would be intriguing for a while, because prime time has a higher profile, wider range, kind of exposure."

    Now that the series is in full production, how much of that remains true? Is anybody (at Fox, or at Sonnenfeld's prduction co) putting on the brakes?

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  129. Love the Tick. by mcmonkey · · Score: 1

    But why does he wear a giant carrot on his head?

  130. simple... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nausea

  131. Re:CleverNickName - Wil Wheaton (aka Wesley Crushe by kaladorn · · Score: 1

    Who else would run on at the mouth so long? You rock, Xandria! Hugs! And I'm not sure I believe the comment about you not molesting people you don't know... *grin* Kaladorn The Unrepentant

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  132. Kaladorn the Great and LEGO by Mistress+Xandria · · Score: 1

    Okay okay, look, I got a slashdot identity. Bizarre that I found you... You know, the Internet is such a tremendous romping ground. You meet people you actually know in the oddest places and via the oddest means. Gods, I sound like a geek again... get back in the closet. I owe you a long letter. In the meantime... check these out: I was in Maclean's! http://www.akasa.bc.ca/vlc/macleans.gif Cover girl, baby! http://www.akasa.bc.ca/vlc/mingpao1.jpg http://www.akasa.bc.ca/vlc/mingpao2.gif http://www.akasa.bc.ca/vlc/mingpao3.gif http://www.akasa.bc.ca/vlc/mingpao4.gif http://www.akasa.bc.ca/vlc/mingpao5.gif This past weekend's festivities (guess the Xandria twisted scenes): http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=82 29 Okay, okay, it's true... I molest damn near anyone. Shhh... Xandria

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    --- Ascerbic by choice