The way Gateway used to, I assume with this they won't be doing it anymore, ship machines was ideal. They would send it out with a recovery CD *and* a full version OEM copy of winders whatever. Last time I worked on one I was working tech support for a ISP. The recovery CD was a good thing. When we really thought the customer should nuke the system (As a supervisor I could suggest it after a bunch of boilerplate my techs could pass one up to me) telling them how to back up and use the recovery CD made it very easy on us. At this same time my brother-in-law also had a Gateway and having the OEM cd made it possible for me to recover him without putting all of Gateway's crap back on (easy way to do a clean install of drivers etc.) But the customer should have both and should be able to use winders like a book in other words you can use it in one location at a time and only in that location. Taking away the right to use it on another machine is a bad thing.
I also like source but most things I build once and then it is quite awhile before I build them again. Now I mean if you are compling KDE or Gnome every day this could be a problem but how many of us do that? I would rather build something that will be rock solid and have it take awhile than give up anything for a faster build time.
The simple fact is this is/. and this is geeks talking to geeks we do not want to be sold to we want to be told that something that might be cool is out there and given a link we can then go look at it and decide what we think. The simple fact is they are not trying to sell Berlin to us but rather inform us that it is there this is a big diff. Think about it/. is all about news not selling THIS IS NOT A E-COMMERCE site.
There would be no lawsuit because if it was OSS it would be quit OK for MSN to do a review. This would lead to more people using it more bug reports and a better app. This is what OSS is all about. But to answer your question yes yes it would be. Why? Because free speech matters. What Adobe should have done and what I think the OSS community would do would be to explain and talk about the issues and the fact that it is very early in the release cycle open the beta ask for feedback get it and use it to build a really good product. Get on the cluetrain.
Also this would be the first step towards a ram jet. IE. Use big lasers to heat up hydrogen and magnetic scoops to funnel it into your jet. This is one of the really promising techs to take us to the stars. This is very very cool stuff and very well worth waiting 10 to 20 years to do it right. Also it is very good to hear NASA talk about sending people again.
A suggestion that I got out of a book and that works really well for me is to make/var a CD-R. It is write only *and* machine readable. Makes finding what you want very easy.
Since the 21st century will start on Jan. 1 2001 this could not possibly be the worst film of the 21st century. Also it sucked less than Showgirls but it did not miss the mark by much
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WTF? This would be a good thing I must grant but show me the OS that does that. Not winders I think. I still dual boot at home rebuilt my whole box just last week. winders=1.5 hours no less than 11 reboots. Linux=20 minutes one reboot. Now have you ever looked at what the default install of winders installs far far more bloat than a default install of Linux. There is this myth that winders is easy and it is just that a myth.
This is kind of off topic while I like Mandrake on my desktop and plan to grab 7.1 in a few days. (Most likely order from cheapbytes) I like Redhat better on my servers. Anybody hear any rumors about when 7.0 will be out?
350 is not that big. I've done Linux installs off of ftp.cdrom.com that came in at over 700 in about 3 to 4 hours not really that long when you consider that before DSL I would spend 7 hours to get a 60 meg demo.
This assumes that most people reading this have also checked out Snowcrash and The Diamond Age. This is very much like when Carl Hollywood explained how a really secure and private network put the government out of business and made it possible for lots of people to do what the really want to do. This just makes too much sense and we all know that the government to a large extent is all about keeping itself in business. This goes back along ways. Think about it the war on drugs was all about power. The whole thing about violence and crime all about power.
Everything is obvious and trivial once all the bugs are worked out of it and *very* smart men have worked on it for a very long time. Given if Dr. Davies had not done it someone else most likely would have and given it was more of a group effort but all really good research is. The point is he came up with it first and/or best and worked on it in a very big way. So yes this is important.
Insert the description of smart paper from "The Diamond Age" here. Briefly millions of tiny computers in a sheet of paper. We are getting closer and closer to this and I for one see it in the near future. Very Very Cool.
This would also obey all laws of physics. The only reason we ever thought of light as a hard speed limit is because some (Like Albert) thought this would violate cause and effect not any physical law. There is no physical mathematical reason for light to be the fastest thing in the universe. INAP but this is how I understand it.
Just one question and heavens knows I'm not trying to defend MicroShaft because if the answer to my question is no then I think it is just one more example of evil. But the OS (if you can call winders a OS) cds that come with most OEM systems say on the "for sale with a new pc only" now is selling those on ebay a violation of that clause? How binding is that clause? I agree that if it is binding etc. that it really sucks.
Gotta agree with you on that one. He uses the term "masters" which would be the sources from which they make CDs, tapes, what have you. As we all know MP3s while cool are far from "perfect digital copies" I really think that maybe they do not understand how much this is like taping a LP. Also I have to agree with another poster that if they had been asked and had been explained by someone who really knows about MP3s they would most likely have been for it.
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The way Gateway used to, I assume with this they won't be doing it anymore, ship machines was ideal. They would send it out with a recovery CD *and* a full version OEM copy of winders whatever. Last time I worked on one I was working tech support for a ISP. The recovery CD was a good thing. When we really thought the customer should nuke the system (As a supervisor I could suggest it after a bunch of boilerplate my techs could pass one up to me) telling them how to back up and use the recovery CD made it very easy on us. At this same time my brother-in-law also had a Gateway and having the OEM cd made it possible for me to recover him without putting all of Gateway's crap back on (easy way to do a clean install of drivers etc.) But the customer should have both and should be able to use winders like a book in other words you can use it in one location at a time and only in that location. Taking away the right to use it on another machine is a bad thing.
I also like source but most things I build once and then it is quite awhile before I build them again. Now I mean if you are compling KDE or Gnome every day this could be a problem but how many of us do that? I would rather build something that will be rock solid and have it take awhile than give up anything for a faster build time.
The answer is NO.
The simple fact is this is /. and this is geeks talking to geeks we do not want to be sold to we want to be told that something that might be cool is out there and given a link we can then go look at it and decide what we think. The simple fact is they are not trying to sell Berlin to us but rather inform us that it is there this is a big diff. Think about it /. is all about news not selling THIS IS NOT A E-COMMERCE site.
There would be no lawsuit because if it was OSS it would be quit OK for MSN to do a review. This would lead to more people using it more bug reports and a better app. This is what OSS is all about. But to answer your question yes yes it would be. Why? Because free speech matters. What Adobe should have done and what I think the OSS community would do would be to explain and talk about the issues and the fact that it is very early in the release cycle open the beta ask for feedback get it and use it to build a really good product. Get on the cluetrain.
Also this would be the first step towards a ram jet. IE. Use big lasers to heat up hydrogen and magnetic scoops to funnel it into your jet. This is one of the really promising techs to take us to the stars. This is very very cool stuff and very well worth waiting 10 to 20 years to do it right. Also it is very good to hear NASA talk about sending people again.
Emacs... Is there anything it can't do?
A suggestion that I got out of a book and that works really well for me is to make /var a CD-R. It is write only *and* machine readable. Makes finding what you want very easy.
ftp://ftp.debian.org should give you all the security you need. :)
And of course in the recent past that has not bothered anyone at all....
Since the 21st century will start on Jan. 1 2001 this could not possibly be the worst film of the 21st century. Also it sucked less than Showgirls but it did not miss the mark by much
WTF? This would be a good thing I must grant but show me the OS that does that. Not winders I think. I still dual boot at home rebuilt my whole box just last week. winders=1.5 hours no less than 11 reboots. Linux=20 minutes one reboot. Now have you ever looked at what the default install of winders installs far far more bloat than a default install of Linux. There is this myth that winders is easy and it is just that a myth.
This is kind of off topic while I like Mandrake on my desktop and plan to grab 7.1 in a few days. (Most likely order from cheapbytes) I like Redhat better on my servers. Anybody hear any rumors about when 7.0 will be out?
Good advice this fixed a error I kept getting thanks.
I get depend errors all the time. Then I will install from the tarballs and it installs very well. Why is this.
Send me a mail I'll pick you up at the airport. hehehe. Since it looks like my son will be going to school here in Utah this would be a *good* thing.
So just for sampling purposes only because getting them to keep would be a bad thing does anyone know where to get some samples of MP4 video?
350 is not that big. I've done Linux installs off of ftp.cdrom.com that came in at over 700 in about 3 to 4 hours not really that long when you consider that before DSL I would spend 7 hours to get a 60 meg demo.
This assumes that most people reading this have also checked out Snowcrash and The Diamond Age. This is very much like when Carl Hollywood explained how a really secure and private network put the government out of business and made it possible for lots of people to do what the really want to do. This just makes too much sense and we all know that the government to a large extent is all about keeping itself in business. This goes back along ways. Think about it the war on drugs was all about power. The whole thing about violence and crime all about power.
Everything is obvious and trivial once all the bugs are worked out of it and *very* smart men have worked on it for a very long time. Given if Dr. Davies had not done it someone else most likely would have and given it was more of a group effort but all really good research is. The point is he came up with it first and/or best and worked on it in a very big way. So yes this is important.
But since when is cause and effect a physical law?
Insert the description of smart paper from "The Diamond Age" here. Briefly millions of tiny computers in a sheet of paper. We are getting closer and closer to this and I for one see it in the near future. Very Very Cool.
This would also obey all laws of physics. The only reason we ever thought of light as a hard speed limit is because some (Like Albert) thought this would violate cause and effect not any physical law. There is no physical mathematical reason for light to be the fastest thing in the universe. INAP but this is how I understand it.
Just one question and heavens knows I'm not trying to defend MicroShaft because if the answer to my question is no then I think it is just one more example of evil. But the OS (if you can call winders a OS) cds that come with most OEM systems say on the "for sale with a new pc only" now is selling those on ebay a violation of that clause? How binding is that clause? I agree that if it is binding etc. that it really sucks.
Gotta agree with you on that one. He uses the term "masters" which would be the sources from which they make CDs, tapes, what have you. As we all know MP3s while cool are far from "perfect digital copies" I really think that maybe they do not understand how much this is like taping a LP. Also I have to agree with another poster that if they had been asked and had been explained by someone who really knows about MP3s they would most likely have been for it.