There just aren't enough people who are trained and have these skills today.
Would that have something to do with the way YOU DONT ACTUALLY HIRE ANYONE WHO ISNT A CERTIFIED PROFESSIONAL RIGHT OFF THE BAT?
Seriously, I'm working on my college degree and I cant even get an UNPAID internship without previous PAID WORK EXPERIENCE
That's one major reason why I'm seriously considering bailing on IT. Another is that I can make a shit-ton more money in the family gun shop (especially with all the politicians bloviating on the topic, makes for good business), and not have to worry about whether or not my skills and achievements mesh with what some fucking marketing drone or HR algorithm thinks they should be.
If every high school graduate can code, suddenly coding is comparable to flipping burgers and stocking shelves, so they can fill those "programming jobs" for $8 an hour.
Why didn't you say all you wanted was a firewall? I could have pointed you to 3 of them (PfSense, IPCop, and SmoothWall) right off the bat.
I'm looking for a disk image I could fire up on a tiny pc (or in a VM) that'd meter wifi...
Misunderstanding of scope, obviously - I assumed you meant that you wanted a distro that was specifically designed for wifi monitoring. Had I realized that you just wanted something that was capable of wireless monitoring, but not necessarily built for that specific purpose, this would have been a much shorter (and slightly less snarky) conversation.
That said, I recommend PfSense based on personal preference, or IPCop for ease of use (haven't actually used it myself, but I hear good things).
It never ceases to amaze me how self-proclaimed "intellectuals" have the exact same hangups about unpleasant but true speech as all the folks they like to pretend they outsmart.
You sure are reading a whole lot of context into nothing more than a couple of down-mods.
Oblig. snarky retort:
Gee, thanks Captain Obvious, never would have known that's what I was doing if not for you!
K, I feel better now.
What do you make of the fact that the original post about "gun-loving hill billy rednecks" was also down-modded to -1?
That Obvious Troll was being obvious? What else is there to make of such blatant baiting?
How do you know it wasn't "self-proclaimed intellectuals" who did that too because they realize that neither stereotype is particularly accurate?
You're comparing apples to lug nuts.
The original post, "why would you study a bunch of primitive, gun-loving hillbilly rednecks?," is quite obviously flamebait, and thus is intended to be insulting by design. The post I responded to did not make such a blanket generalization - instead, DFurno2003 was quite obviously pointing out how the extremist, fringe groups of each sub-demographic who tend to stand out, and thus receive the most attention from the public at large (probably due in good part to the fact that they are so damn extreme).
This is why the only "pro-gun" arguments you see on the MSM usually come from Alex Jones and Wayne LaPierre types, whereas "anti-gun" arguments are posited by the likes of Sen. Feinstein and Illinois' Michael Madigan. Meanwhile, the vast majority of gun owners, who are reasonable, logical people, have to stand at the sidelines and watch with baited breath, silently praying that neither of those extremist groups get their way.
Side Note: replace mentions of "gun" with any other hot-button topic du jour, like abortion, and you'll start to notice a rather scary trend...
Rednecks are a very small part of the gun culture. They happen to be the most vocal of us. Kind of like how the really weird and disgusting LGBTQ people seem to be the most vocal of those people.
I assume this is at -1 for Unpleasant Truth?
It never ceases to amaze me how self-proclaimed "intellectuals" have the exact same hangups about unpleasant but true speech as all the folks they like to pretend they outsmart.
That's not a new phenomenon for our species - heck, back in the days of ancient Greece, one couldn't throw a stone without hitting at least one or two "oracles."
Of course, they at least had the excuse of rampant mercury poisoning...
Bought one last week. My well-regulated militia is very interested in not being killed by a Hellfire missile shot by Obama. We are American citizens after all, and subject to assassination order by the President.
And in case anyone is too dense to recognize the sarcasm..../sarcasm
Huh, and here I was thinking it was one of those "terrifyingly prophetic" type of statements...
Nothing to do with pedantry I see there.... You mentioned slavery, which wasn't what the war of independence was about. It looked like you'd got confused.
One does not have to be in literal chains in order to be a slave.
If you can't figure out the definition of a simile without having your hand held, I cannot be of service to you.
The DHS had the authority to hold the boat the minute it arrived on US soil, for customs clearance.
Where in the Constitution does it say that?
DHS's power is specified by statute adopted by Congress. The authority for Congress to adopt the statute giving the authority to DHS to do this is found in Article I, Section 8, Clause 3 (popularly know as the commerce clause), which states that Congress shall have the power "[t]o regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;"
To be honest, I'm having trouble finding any reference in that document that would authorize a Department of Homeland Security at all...
The Constitution isn't particularly concerned with how Congress names the particular agencies it creates in the exercise of its enumerated powers, its more concerned with the substance of what government does.
HEY.
Why you gotta break balls, bein' all correct and shit?
FYI, this nation, the United States of America, wasn't founded with fancy words and courtrooms, it was created with the blood of men and women who would have rather died standing as free people, than live kneeling as slaves.
... and slave owners.
...
I wonder how Alexander Hamilton would have dealt with annoying pedants and their diversionary tactics...
Have to agree; I hold a 2 year degree (A.A.S.) in Automotive Technology, and have never really had a problem finding non-minimum wage work. Sure, an entry level position here and there, but for the most part I do alright.
FWIW, I haven't worked in a professional auto shop since graduation, only IT. So it goes, I suppose...
Maybe, but I doubt it. If so, someone would have done it. A four-year bachelor's degree can be had for six months of middle-class wages so it's not expensive at the low end.
My wife's dual Bachelor's in Accounting and Economics cost over $70,000 - that's about what we make in a year, combined, and we're right on the cusp of middle class/poor. Even the local vocational college is now charging over $800/credit hour, not including about $300/semester in bullshit fees. This isn't some expensive West Coast urban center, either, this is smack in the middle of 'flyover country,' so they can't really claim standard of living as an excuse.
Consequently, that's a funny idea of "not expensive" you have there.
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There just aren't enough people who are trained and have these skills today.
Would that have something to do with the way YOU DONT ACTUALLY HIRE ANYONE WHO ISNT A CERTIFIED PROFESSIONAL RIGHT OFF THE BAT?
Seriously, I'm working on my college degree and I cant even get an UNPAID internship without previous PAID WORK EXPERIENCE
That's one major reason why I'm seriously considering bailing on IT. Another is that I can make a shit-ton more money in the family gun shop (especially with all the politicians bloviating on the topic, makes for good business), and not have to worry about whether or not my skills and achievements mesh with what some fucking marketing drone or HR algorithm thinks they should be.
If every high school graduate can code, suddenly coding is comparable to flipping burgers and stocking shelves, so they can fill those "programming jobs" for $8 an hour.
Nail, head.
Direct hit.
I think the GP is more about pointing out how bad your simile is.
Then he (and you) should take an English class - as far as simile's go, that one (die standing free > live kneeling enslaved) is time-tested.
Why didn't you say all you wanted was a firewall? I could have pointed you to 3 of them (PfSense, IPCop, and SmoothWall) right off the bat.
I'm looking for a disk image I could fire up on a tiny pc (or in a VM) that'd meter wifi...
Misunderstanding of scope, obviously - I assumed you meant that you wanted a distro that was specifically designed for wifi monitoring. Had I realized that you just wanted something that was capable of wireless monitoring, but not necessarily built for that specific purpose, this would have been a much shorter (and slightly less snarky) conversation.
That said, I recommend PfSense based on personal preference, or IPCop for ease of use (haven't actually used it myself, but I hear good things).
I'd be satisfied if they would just reinstate the Congressional Cane Fights.
Do that, then make C-SPAN pay-per-view, and we can say buh-bye to the debt crisis!
I assume this is at -1 for Unpleasant Truth?
It never ceases to amaze me how self-proclaimed "intellectuals" have the exact same hangups about unpleasant but true speech as all the folks they like to pretend they outsmart.
You sure are reading a whole lot of context into nothing more than a couple of down-mods.
Oblig. snarky retort:
Gee, thanks Captain Obvious, never would have known that's what I was doing if not for you!
K, I feel better now.
What do you make of the fact that the original post about "gun-loving hill billy rednecks" was also down-modded to -1?
That Obvious Troll was being obvious? What else is there to make of such blatant baiting?
How do you know it wasn't "self-proclaimed intellectuals" who did that too because they realize that neither stereotype is particularly accurate?
You're comparing apples to lug nuts.
The original post, "why would you study a bunch of primitive, gun-loving hillbilly rednecks?," is quite obviously flamebait, and thus is intended to be insulting by design. The post I responded to did not make such a blanket generalization - instead, DFurno2003 was quite obviously pointing out how the extremist, fringe groups of each sub-demographic who tend to stand out, and thus receive the most attention from the public at large (probably due in good part to the fact that they are so damn extreme).
This is why the only "pro-gun" arguments you see on the MSM usually come from Alex Jones and Wayne LaPierre types, whereas "anti-gun" arguments are posited by the likes of Sen. Feinstein and Illinois' Michael Madigan. Meanwhile, the vast majority of gun owners, who are reasonable, logical people, have to stand at the sidelines and watch with baited breath, silently praying that neither of those extremist groups get their way.
Side Note: replace mentions of "gun" with any other hot-button topic du jour, like abortion, and you'll start to notice a rather scary trend...
It isn't about Americans being bad study subjects at all, but rather the idea that comparing apples to oranges is much harder than previously thought.
FTFY.
Hmm, not sure even I realize how profound that 'correction' happens to be...
In other words: the concept of ceteris paribus is utter bullshit.
Film at 11.
why would you study a bunch of primitive, gun-loving hillbilly rednecks?
You seem to be thinking of southerners, not Americans...
... and a subset of a subset, at that.
So, to answer the original question: Because you don't really know the proper way to do research.
Rednecks are a very small part of the gun culture. They happen to be the most vocal of us. Kind of like how the really weird and disgusting LGBTQ people seem to be the most vocal of those people.
I assume this is at -1 for Unpleasant Truth?
It never ceases to amaze me how self-proclaimed "intellectuals" have the exact same hangups about unpleasant but true speech as all the folks they like to pretend they outsmart.
...people... like Dick Cheney... are alive...
That seems debatable.
When the media reports that Linus makes a comment on something, why does he always sound like an eight year old throwing a tantrum?
FTFY.
Also, transformed into a self-answering question.
Face it - calm, civilized conversations just aren't page-clicks-friendly.
Honestly, when was the last time you saw SuSe or Debian used in a professional environment?
Every single day, and that's in my point-of-sale work for one of the largest retailers in the United States.
These days it's everywhere.
That's not a new phenomenon for our species - heck, back in the days of ancient Greece, one couldn't throw a stone without hitting at least one or two "oracles."
Of course, they at least had the excuse of rampant mercury poisoning...
Bought one last week. My well-regulated militia is very interested in not being killed by a Hellfire missile shot by Obama. We are American citizens after all, and subject to assassination order by the President.
And in case anyone is too dense to recognize the sarcasm.... /sarcasm
Huh, and here I was thinking it was one of those "terrifyingly prophetic" type of statements...
Nothing to do with pedantry I see there.... You mentioned slavery, which wasn't what the war of independence was about. It looked like you'd got confused.
One does not have to be in literal chains in order to be a slave.
If you can't figure out the definition of a simile without having your hand held, I cannot be of service to you.
DHS's power is specified by statute adopted by Congress. The authority for Congress to adopt the statute giving the authority to DHS to do this is found in Article I, Section 8, Clause 3 (popularly know as the commerce clause), which states that Congress shall have the power "[t]o regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;"
The Constitution isn't particularly concerned with how Congress names the particular agencies it creates in the exercise of its enumerated powers, its more concerned with the substance of what government does.
HEY.
Why you gotta break balls, bein' all correct and shit?
...
I hate you (not really, lol)
Because it's utter bullshit.
FYI, this nation, the United States of America, wasn't founded with fancy words and courtrooms, it was created with the blood of men and women who would have rather died standing as free people, than live kneeling as slaves.
... and slave owners.
...
I wonder how Alexander Hamilton would have dealt with annoying pedants and their diversionary tactics...
Have to agree; I hold a 2 year degree (A.A.S.) in Automotive Technology, and have never really had a problem finding non-minimum wage work. Sure, an entry level position here and there, but for the most part I do alright.
FWIW, I haven't worked in a professional auto shop since graduation, only IT. So it goes, I suppose...
I am sorry sir, your BS from Brown is not acceptable for the Janitorial position. we are looking for people from Yale to fill that position.
Right on, have fun cleaning the shitter yourself!
Tech / IT needs a apprenticeship system
+1 Fucking A
You're gonna need a PhD in Molecular Biology for that
Psychology, in my experience.
No joke, I know more Psych Ph. D.'s working at Steak N' Shake, than actually working in the field they're trained for.
What a fine way of guaranteeing every citizen massive debts (public or private) for the privilege of a job.
Not that it's intentional, or anything...
College is incredibly cheap. People who claim its expensive are morons or ideologues or trolls.
"Cheap" is a relative term, you fucking narcissist.
Maybe, but I doubt it. If so, someone would have done it. A four-year bachelor's degree can be had for six months of middle-class wages so it's not expensive at the low end.
My wife's dual Bachelor's in Accounting and Economics cost over $70,000 - that's about what we make in a year, combined, and we're right on the cusp of middle class/poor. Even the local vocational college is now charging over $800/credit hour, not including about $300/semester in bullshit fees. This isn't some expensive West Coast urban center, either, this is smack in the middle of 'flyover country,' so they can't really claim standard of living as an excuse.
Consequently, that's a funny idea of "not expensive" you have there.