If I'm not mistaken, a 9mm Luger round fits almost perfectly in the end of a 1/4" length of pipe. Perfectly enough to fire the round downrange, anyway.
Pretty sure a 12 ga. shell fits into a 1/2" pipe the same way...
Regardless, the point remains the same: anyone with at least half a brain could build a basic projectile weapon with less than $30 worth of stuff from the hardware store.
Why does my right not to be shot in the face trump my right not to be beaten to death by an overwhelming group or physical specimen or not to be stabbed to death by a guy in a dark parking lot or tied down and beaten to death in my home?
Or rather, why does a rapists right to not be shot trump my wife's right to not be raped?
Yes, and people have the right to you know, not get shot in the face.
Under normal circumstances, yes - here in 'Murica our founders called that the Right to Life.
However, this is not a universal truth - what if the person being shot in the face happens to be engaged in the act of, say, raping a child, would you still argue that they (the child-rapist) still maintains a right to not be shot in the face? Because I would vehemently disagree with that, although if you feel otherwise then that may be the result of a cultural difference between we 'Muricans and you Canucks.
Try wandering into one of the rougher areas of Chicago or DC and see how "free" you feel when you're worried that someone might shoot you.
You mean the same Chicago which has some of the strictest anti-gun laws in the country? That's probably not the best example to use when positing a pro-disarmament position, considering.
Sure, but back in 1776 people with rifles and pistols could organize and defeat the government. What relevance does that have today? How does it counter what the GP said about guns being useless against the modern U.S. government?
The fact that, unlikely though it may be, if all the gun owners were to arm up and march on Washington, there's really fuck-all they could do to stop us... at least, not without murdering a solid third of the nation's tax and labor base.
What I find funny is all the people of that mentality who also seem to think that soldiers are brainwashed drones that lack the capability for independent thought, and therefore would have no qualms about following orders to slaughter their own loved ones.
The problem is there is a conflict in peoples political agendas.
I would simplify it further. The problem is hypocrisy. Everybody wants freedom for things they enjoy and wants to restrict others' freedom for things they dislike. The irony of it is that those whose political leanings are more to the left... shall we say, claim to want freedom, egalitarianism and tolerance, yet are lightning quick to form lines to restrict anything that violates their sensibilities.
These days, everyone, left and right, wants to go crying to mommy when someone does something they don't like. Nobody wants to mind their own business and thinks they always know best.
Making a firearm in a metal shop requires more skills, tools and time. If anybody can buy a 3d printer, download the model and press print, then it's totally different.
So, what you're saying is that a right is only a right if it's hard to do? That's fucking idiotic.
That's like saying that people should only be allowed free speech if they fill out a government form, in quadruplicate, after flying a home-built rocket to the moon.
Next you'll tell me that the reason gun nutz aren't all using BB guns to poke holes in targets is because they want to make bigger holes.
Well, yea. That's also why stuff like Tannerite has become so popular (Tannerite is a brand of low-impact explosive used for target shooting, in case you didn't know).
PS If you want to be taken seriously, please do refrain from using ad hominems such as "gun nutz" in the future, as opening your argument with pejoratives only serves to indicate a lack of both intellect and willingness to succumb to reason.
Which isn't to say that 3D printed guns couldn't have a niche in the near future. They would be perfect as untraceable weapons for one-off murders. Print the gun, walk up and shoot the guy in the back of the head, melt the gun down. Disposable handguns.
That's not the niche that scares the living shit out of the oligarchs - heck, it's already filled by the infamous "Saturday Night Special."
No, the Powers, who live their entire lives behind bullet-proof glass and metal detectors, have a whole different reason to fear guns that cannot be detected by metal detectors...
So.... basically, what you're saying here is that since there are people out there who are stupid and fall prey to propagandist bullshit that boils down to "accused == guilty," we should go ahead and sacrifice our civil liberties?
But then, what about identical twins? Biologically they're identical, so by that reasoning, their consciousness should also be identical. Yet, a set of twins raised in the exact same environment in the exact same manner will still, 9 times out of 10, turn out to become completely different people. The opposite effect has also been observed: identical twins, separated at birth, raised in completely different environments, end up living strikingly similar lives.
Point being, the reality of it doesn't mesh completely with the idea that consciousness is a purely physical, biologically programmed aspect of humanity, which is why I say that the idea of making an exact copy of an existing person, and expecting it to have the exact same consciousness, is a dubious claim.
... and, of course, from a purely scientific standpoint, the concept of consciousness as biological programming has not been verified by repeated experimentation.
It stands to reason that consciousness is embedded in the biological factory that is our body. There's no reason to assume any magic comes into play here. Any complex system with many variables may look like magic if you don't fully grasp it.
That's funny.
You make a decidedly non-scientific statement ("It stands to reason"), backed by absolutely no empirical data... then go on to claim that any other possible circumstance is tantamount to "magic."
Not that I disagree with you, mind, just pointing out the hilariously contradictory way human minds tend to operate.
bogus profiles of attractive women and even created a fake online news organization to get digitally closer to more than 2,000 U.S. military members, defense contractors and lobbyists it wanted to spy on,
Wait! So the Iranians actually created Fox News as a way to mess with the minds of American right wingers, and undermine the country?
For example, last month they spent a week doing this big production about guns in America (can't remember what they called it). Of the 5 shows they aired, only 1 had an interview with a pro-2nd Amendment pundit, and that was only after they got a flood of complaints that their coverage was heavily biased towards supporting the anti-gun crowd.
That got me thinking: back when Bush was President, he blustered a lot about how NPR was unfairly biased towards the left; an accusation that turned out to be false (at the time), and was proven by virtue of the fact that the Corporation for Public Broadcasting board was, in fact, stacked with Republicans. But ever since about 2010, I've noticed a real sea change in their coverage. Now I can't stand to listen to their propagandist bullshit - if I wanted that, I'd tune into MSNBC or FOX.
Car Talk is about the only reason I ever hit the local NPR station anymore.
I used to dig Democracy NOW!, but just like TYT, they've succumbed to the urge to drop to their knees and open wide for whoever the current Democrat-in-Chief happens to be. They're basically Limbaugh's antithesis now.
What happens when we get to the point of open source plans for a thermo nuclear device that can be built with such a machine?
I'd bet dollars to pesos we're already there (although admittedly, I don't really want to risk googling "nuke plans" from my own computer).
What you should be asking is, "what happens when we get to the point where fissible material is easily accessible by anyone?"
If I'm not mistaken, a 9mm Luger round fits almost perfectly in the end of a 1/4" length of pipe. Perfectly enough to fire the round downrange, anyway.
Pretty sure a 12 ga. shell fits into a 1/2" pipe the same way...
Regardless, the point remains the same: anyone with at least half a brain could build a basic projectile weapon with less than $30 worth of stuff from the hardware store.
Why does my right not to be shot in the face trump my right not to be beaten to death by an overwhelming group or physical specimen or not to be stabbed to death by a guy in a dark parking lot or tied down and beaten to death in my home?
Or rather, why does a rapists right to not be shot trump my wife's right to not be raped?
Yes, and people have the right to you know, not get shot in the face.
Under normal circumstances, yes - here in 'Murica our founders called that the Right to Life.
However, this is not a universal truth - what if the person being shot in the face happens to be engaged in the act of, say, raping a child, would you still argue that they (the child-rapist) still maintains a right to not be shot in the face? Because I would vehemently disagree with that, although if you feel otherwise then that may be the result of a cultural difference between we 'Muricans and you Canucks.
Try wandering into one of the rougher areas of Chicago or DC and see how "free" you feel when you're worried that someone might shoot you.
You mean the same Chicago which has some of the strictest anti-gun laws in the country? That's probably not the best example to use when positing a pro-disarmament position, considering.
Dude, you know he's not gonna. Goes against the narrative.
Sure, but back in 1776 people with rifles and pistols could organize and defeat the government. What relevance does that have today? How does it counter what the GP said about guns being useless against the modern U.S. government?
The fact that, unlikely though it may be, if all the gun owners were to arm up and march on Washington, there's really fuck-all they could do to stop us... at least, not without murdering a solid third of the nation's tax and labor base.
What I find funny is all the people of that mentality who also seem to think that soldiers are brainwashed drones that lack the capability for independent thought, and therefore would have no qualms about following orders to slaughter their own loved ones.
The problem is there is a conflict in peoples political agendas.
I would simplify it further. The problem is hypocrisy. Everybody wants freedom for things they enjoy and wants to restrict others' freedom for things they dislike. The irony of it is that those whose political leanings are more to the left... shall we say, claim to want freedom, egalitarianism and tolerance, yet are lightning quick to form lines to restrict anything that violates their sensibilities.
These days, everyone, left and right, wants to go crying to mommy when someone does something they don't like. Nobody wants to mind their own business and thinks they always know best.
Fuckin' A. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Making a firearm in a metal shop requires more skills, tools and time. If anybody can buy a 3d printer, download the model and press print, then it's totally different.
So, what you're saying is that a right is only a right if it's hard to do? That's fucking idiotic.
That's like saying that people should only be allowed free speech if they fill out a government form, in quadruplicate, after flying a home-built rocket to the moon.
Next you'll tell me that the reason gun nutz aren't all using BB guns to poke holes in targets is because they want to make bigger holes.
Well, yea. That's also why stuff like Tannerite has become so popular (Tannerite is a brand of low-impact explosive used for target shooting, in case you didn't know).
PS If you want to be taken seriously, please do refrain from using ad hominems such as "gun nutz" in the future, as opening your argument with pejoratives only serves to indicate a lack of both intellect and willingness to succumb to reason.
(drops mic, walks off stage)
Which isn't to say that 3D printed guns couldn't have a niche in the near future. They would be perfect as untraceable weapons for one-off murders. Print the gun, walk up and shoot the guy in the back of the head, melt the gun down. Disposable handguns.
That's not the niche that scares the living shit out of the oligarchs - heck, it's already filled by the infamous "Saturday Night Special."
No, the Powers, who live their entire lives behind bullet-proof glass and metal detectors, have a whole different reason to fear guns that cannot be detected by metal detectors...
So.... basically, what you're saying here is that since there are people out there who are stupid and fall prey to propagandist bullshit that boils down to "accused == guilty," we should go ahead and sacrifice our civil liberties?
That's crazy talk.
You disgust me and every civilized person who reads your post.
Speak for yourself, fascist.
FYI, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Then there should be a slash between the words "coolant" and "heaters," i.e. "coolant/heaters."
The way it's written, it appears they're talking about devices meant to heat the coolant, which makes absolutely no sense.
T'would be nice if someone in the know could clarify this...
if the stock goes down, shareholders will sue.
Is that how it works?
I don't think that's how it works. At least, it shouldn't work like that, save for intentional pump-n-dump type situations.
Question:
...coolant heaters...
WTF?
But then, what about identical twins? Biologically they're identical, so by that reasoning, their consciousness should also be identical. Yet, a set of twins raised in the exact same environment in the exact same manner will still, 9 times out of 10, turn out to become completely different people. The opposite effect has also been observed: identical twins, separated at birth, raised in completely different environments, end up living strikingly similar lives.
Point being, the reality of it doesn't mesh completely with the idea that consciousness is a purely physical, biologically programmed aspect of humanity, which is why I say that the idea of making an exact copy of an existing person, and expecting it to have the exact same consciousness, is a dubious claim.
... and, of course, from a purely scientific standpoint, the concept of consciousness as biological programming has not been verified by repeated experimentation.
It stands to reason that consciousness is embedded in the biological factory that is our body. There's no reason to assume any magic comes into play here. Any complex system with many variables may look like magic if you don't fully grasp it.
That's funny.
You make a decidedly non-scientific statement ("It stands to reason"), backed by absolutely no empirical data... then go on to claim that any other possible circumstance is tantamount to "magic."
Not that I disagree with you, mind, just pointing out the hilariously contradictory way human minds tend to operate.
bogus profiles of attractive women and even created a fake online news organization to get digitally closer to more than 2,000 U.S. military members, defense contractors and lobbyists it wanted to spy on,
Wait! So the Iranians actually created Fox News as a way to mess with the minds of American right wingers, and undermine the country?
Iranians? No, no, no, that's just crazy.
You're thinking of the Saudis
But apparently it's only news when competitors for our PetroDollars do it.
FTFY. I have no quarrel with any of the Iranian people.
NPR's gotten pretty bad the last few years.
For example, last month they spent a week doing this big production about guns in America (can't remember what they called it). Of the 5 shows they aired, only 1 had an interview with a pro-2nd Amendment pundit, and that was only after they got a flood of complaints that their coverage was heavily biased towards supporting the anti-gun crowd.
That got me thinking: back when Bush was President, he blustered a lot about how NPR was unfairly biased towards the left; an accusation that turned out to be false (at the time), and was proven by virtue of the fact that the Corporation for Public Broadcasting board was, in fact, stacked with Republicans. But ever since about 2010, I've noticed a real sea change in their coverage. Now I can't stand to listen to their propagandist bullshit - if I wanted that, I'd tune into MSNBC or FOX.
Car Talk is about the only reason I ever hit the local NPR station anymore.
I used to dig Democracy NOW!, but just like TYT, they've succumbed to the urge to drop to their knees and open wide for whoever the current Democrat-in-Chief happens to be. They're basically Limbaugh's antithesis now.
Shame, that.
Donny: Are these the Nazis, Walter?
Walter Sobchak: No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of.
I'd hold off until consciousness is quantified before claiming such a thing is plausible.
Without consciousness, a human body is nothing but a chemical processing facility without a crew to run it.
With a robot, easy enough to program it to say no, and even resist slightly, but there's no safe-word, since after all, it's a robot.
No? What about "FATAL ERROR?"
Maybe people who blindly trust everyone never get identified as having dementia, because they just go along with everything you say?
Yea, OK, that sounds good...