One of the things about many of the Slachdot readers is the fact that we tend to like things that are a little different when compared to "the norm." We like to use operating systems that many people find "hard to use" because we can manipulate it far more than other OSes. Even our social lives are a little different from others, in that we chat online more than we call people on the phone. RPN should be a natural proggression for most people here.
But let's not forget something that really matters here. There's one thing that really stuck out to me that should make us all stand up and recognize Mr. Hewlett and Mr. Packard and that is their management style and attitude towards running a technology company.
Hewlett and Packard shared basic beliefs about managing a company: disdain of strict hierarchy and formality, admiration for individual creativity and initiative, and trust in employees. Packard wrote down the company credo, which became known as the "HP Way."
Now what Slashdot user can disagree with that? This RPN or no RPN discussion has taken focus away from some of the greatest things about HP. I'm not a huge media fan, but their comercials, as of late, are rather good in their portrayal of a company who's major goal is "Inovation." I thank every person alive and passed on that has helped change the face of business today because of their willingness to discard appearance and structure and focus on making things better.
My hat goes off to you Mr. Hewlett. Your life has been an inspiration to all and we thank you for your wonderful contributions.
Be careful not to judge a brand by just a couple experiences. In Sony's defense, I've had my Sony TV, amp, DVD player, VCR, rear and center channel speakers for over a year now and they are good as new. They aren't the best you can get, but for the price (keep in mind my friends at Best Buy get a great employee discount;) they are good. As far as their front channel speakers, I can't say I've found any that can compete in clarity at high volume to even JBL or some of the other prosumer level speakers I've seen.
Yes yes yes! I can't agree more! Some of the replies to this post have mentioned ways to code a manual rollback, but why? This is reinventing the wheel folks. Don't get me wrong, I know it's fun to hack out some code to make applications perform in ways they were not intended on our own time, but in a business environment the goal shifts from fun to profitability. Transactional databases are designed to perform this function. It's not like I'm telling you to run you server on NT with IIS. I'm recommending that when building a system like this, you not look for a work-around, but use systems that are designed to do what you want. Manually writing the code necessary to duplicate this functionality will increase the time required to design the billing system by a huge factor. The code will be longer and less streamlined and will cause the whole thing to run slower.
I have been implementing databases and designing systems like this for years in the medical industry and let me tell you that there is nothing more annoying than having to use the wrong technology and write extra code to work around the lack of functionality. Save yourself the headache!
Hate to say this, but you are right on. Most CIOs that I have worked with have been complete morons. Their sole purpose in life is to hire people that DO know what they are doing, and force them to work under the outdated procedures and with outdated software i.e. Novell, because it is the only thing they can understand. Why is this the only thing they understand? Because they stopped bothering to learn ANYTHING new after they got their college degree in biology or some other irrelevant major. They usually subscribe to a number of technical magazines and may even have a copy or 2 of Linux Magazine or Linux Journal on their desk so they appear to be "hip to technology", but if someone tries to install Linux on their PC or laptop, they will immediately be told that they can't do this because "the other guys" don't know it. The people that work under a CIO try to make suggestions and are ignored until these, usually, recent college graduates realize that they can make more money as consultants to this CIO then they can as employees. The CIO, then, hires these "outside resources" to "assist" him in updating procedures, technology and policies.
Variation on the Star Wars program? I know my Uncle has been working with the Air Force on this type of stuff for a while. It's not like this all just disappeared. This really is a great use for all the thought that has gone into photon weaponry over the decade. Way to go NASA!
Now, with all the coorporations building space craft, why dosen't NASA build for coorporations or even *gasp* the public! I know I wouldn't mind having a non leathal weapon to knock over that bully at school that always asks me for my lunch money. haha Dissenter
j/k On a serious note, I want to reiterate that it's great to see everyone rallying together like this. Where exactly are the k5 staff located? That information may help out in letting you know what we can do to help. If you're in the Chicago area, I know a great bunch that would love to assist you guys. Since you aren't necessarily going to be able to go through all your mail, I thought it would be an idea to post that here.
Who cares about a file size limit. Oracle databases are designed to span multipule files. DO you really think that no Oralce/Linux system goes over 2GB? LOL Dissenter
Alright! Now I know what to ask my Grandpa to get me for Christmas! I think this will finally give me the edge I need to win the CPL. I should pull about 98763214 frames per second in Quake 3. Guess I have to buy a new car to bring it to the next LAN party though. Dissenter
There is a company in California with a company name and domain name that is the name of a piece of software that my company designs. The CEO asked me to register the domain since he tried to browse to it and it didn't come up. Well, this was true but the whois information says:
Record expires on 07-Jun-2000. Record created on 06-Jun-1995. Database last updated on 8-Jul-2000 18:43:43 EDT.
I tried to register it on the 8th of June thinking that an expiration date meant that the registration expires on that day, but no. So I called Network Solutions.
Apparantly the expiration date means nothing. It's not accurate and is designed to make it so that technical people that know to check whois information for expiration dates don't have "an unfair advantage over non-technical people in the battle to get the rights to a domain." This is honestly what they told me.
Personally I'm sick and tired of their shit. I think it's high time we do something about it. Now, I'm not exactly a major activist or anything, but I'm going to write a letter to them listing domains that are not released and the names of people that are complaining. I hope I don't crash my ISPs mail server with a/. effect, but if you want me to add your name and/or a domain that isn't released e-mail me. Hell, I'm doing this for work anyway, so why not get a group effort behind it.
Dissapointing but true. This could be lots of fun for those of us with Visors. I noticed that the module port in the Visor is quite simmilar to the Gameboy. How about a hardware hack to run the actual GB carts in the emulator on a Visor! Could be nice for people that own a bunch of GB games but want to look professional in business meetings. Dissenter
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First off, Duke Nukem 3D was made by 3D Realms. Check your sources before you start your crazy ranting.
Secondly if you really think that/. readers don't play these games you are very wrong as is evident by previous articles like Quake 3 to be sold Retail for Linux. There is an interest in this. Try running a search for Quake on/. and you'll come up with a ton of results. If you really have a problem with violent games, maybe you should speak out against the/. readers since we tend to like Quake 3 and other id releases.
Also you refered to Quake players as Windoze kiddies who just want to run around and shoot stuff. Try reading the article above. WOW it's not just for "Windoze." Maybe you should just stop trying to be so god damn 31337 and voice YOUR opinion rather than trying to portray your post as the feelings of the entire "Linux community."
I love Quake 3 and the attention that this game has earned in the gamming community is almost unmatched. More money is awarded to "CyberAtheletes" like Wombat (Mark Larsen) CPL player of the year from 1999 than ever before. I am pleased to see this much attention being directed to gamming. It makes companies write better games, and gives player more to enjoy.
How dare you sport thus with life?" asks Frankenstein of his creator, who loved technology but was impatient when it came to thinking much about how he was going to use it.
So here we finally arrive at the pinnacle of man's audacty.
"Today we are learning the language in which God created life."
So we really think that we have caught up to God? Are we so small minded that we think that there is nothing more to learn here? Before I'm flamed right off the face of the earth let me say that there is no way that I'm trying to speak against medical and genetic research. The advancements that we have made here are amazing and I wouldn't want to be without them, but when leaders come forward and compare our understanding with diety I have to question it. At least God has something to show for his knowledge. We have nothing to show for it. What is understanding if there is no tangable result? Can we prove that our "Road map to the future" isn't just taking us down a path to destruction? It seems that we've given ourselves a bit too much credit this early in the game. Where are the results? Dissenter
Something that you may not have thought of is this: Last week when I was talking to a rep from UUnet I was pleased to hear that even if MCI/Sprint do merge, they will only keep the UUnet portion of Internet sales. All of the Sprint ISPs and backbone lines will be sold off to smaller and, possibly, new companies. This isn't making less competition. This is giving more power to the competition and creating new competitors. Why would the US turn this down then?
Here's my thought: Just like personal income tax, my understanding is that businesses pay a higher percentage if they make more money (Graduated Tax). This means that even if the same revenue is made be 4 smaller companies, the US government will make less money compared to Sprint making that same profit in one company.
This is a disappointment as far as I can see it. With UUnet as the most reliable ISP on the planet and Sprint doing all lf this research in multi-frequency digital optical signals, I would expect progress to come a lot faster with the merger. So once again we see greed standing in the way of progress.
You know, looking back, I really wish that I had a chance to experience the excitement of the US landing on the moon and walking around. I have always thought that space stations and lunar colonies would be the wave of the future, but it's not. NASA seems to be too busy conducting experiments of "Wow check out how these tomatoes grow in zero gravity." Well frankly I'm a little tired of it. I want to see all my Star Wars dreams become real. I like Sci-Fi. I want to be part of this "wave of the future." Quite honestly I'm a bit disappointed that I can't go to the moon yet, so if HDTV pictures are the best I can get, I'll take 'em. Dissenter
I guess as long as our guns aren't running CE we may still survive. As the saying goes, "Whoever has the most guns wins." We've been trying to lose that battle for years, but fortunatly there have been a few people (Ronald Regan, George Bush) that have at least had the foresight to make enough that we still have more than everyone else. Can you imagine though?
Bill Gates is facing the firing squad. Comander: "Ready, Aim...." Soldier: "Um, sir the guns are rebooting." Bill: "Hahaha I knew this day would come so I put my curse on all of your weapons. Muhuhuhahaha..." Dissenter
ZDNet has an interview with a guy named Mixter who's tool TFN2K is being blamed for these DDOS attacks. I don't get the feeling that he's a M$ guy undercover. Read the interview at http://www.zdnet.com/ zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2436358,00.html He claims that he is trying to prove his point that "The Net is as susceptible to hack attacks as its weakest parts." Well, I guess unsecured routers would be the weakest point... Dissenter
After Lopht released it's notorious Lopht Crack program, I had hoped to see better things coming out of Redmond this time. Having talked with Muhamed Kadeeb, a Senior Developer on the Windows 2000 project, I think I have come to the conclusion that they can delay Win 2K as long as they want, and it still won't mean a damn. The basic security structure of Windows NT BEGS to be hacked and with these MCSE wielding "sysadmins" that think that having a piece of paper means something, just clicking the 'Next' button on an Install Shield script without thinking about what's going on, installing all sorts of shit on their servers, programs like BO will always find a home.
Also, I think that a serious look should be taken from a different perspective in the OS war. Lets think about the people that are admins on an NT run network vs. people that are admins on Linux run networks. Now I don't think I'm being to stereotypical here when I say that Linux admins are going to be FAR more likely to actually go through the steps necessary to secure that box than an NT admin. We are talking about the difference between a hacker (in the code hacker sense) versus an MCSE peon. Both systems need work to secure. Granted Linux systems are going to be secured tighter thanks to a host of reasons that I won't go into here, but there's always work to be done to get a network running well.
It's not always about the program. Remember there's always a person behind that computer and a lot of this depends more on them than the program.
Ok, I think people are getting the wrong idea about COMDEX. This is a really good conference. COMDEX is put on by a company that does these things globally. There is COMDEX in Canada, France and others. There are companies for everything there from IBM to Apple to Red Hat etc.. I have been to the last few of these and they are a lot of fun. I have a group of a few people who are going.(we live an hour from downtown) If you are interested in joining this escapade, e-mail me. I could probably have a few people crash at my house if necessary. Windows World is a seperate part of COMDEX. Since M$ has too much cash, they blow it on taking over a huge chunk of the expo, but from past experiences, it's in a seperate building all together and you pay an extra fee to get into it. If you want to get free expo passes for COMDEX, to see the expo and not keynotes/Windows World/ LINUX Pavilion go to www.comdex.com and use the registration code mb. LINUX Pavilion is like $200 extra for everything including keynotes and, as mentioned by others, there are givaways galore. If you can't fill a backpack, you didn't try. The keynotes are presentations and discussions. Don't read too much into the word "keynote" cause everyone who gets to do a private presentation outside of the expo is a "keynote." Bill is just as "keynote" as Linus. Anyway, e-mail me if you want to go, cause I'm going to get a nice list started. These things are always more fun with a bunch of other people with simmilar interests. (btw, that $200 is cheap for something like this and the cash goes to pay COMDEX expenses, so don't think you are paying M$ or something) Dissenter
Hey, I'll be the first to admit that I'm a computer nerd. Hell, that's a compliment. Don't like it? Just wait till you meet me and I'm your boss. muhuhuhahahah Still, I guess we should be trying to keep up a good appearence. Hey, I wonder if Obi-Wan will be at Comdex Spring in Chicago for the first "Linux Pavilion." That'll look good with all the big-wigs right? I think I'll get out my light saber from 4th grade and take him down. On a personal note, are any others going to that Linux Pavilion. It's like $200 for 4 days and a hell-o-fun. E-mail me if you are interested. I want to get a big group of us Star-War-lookin' LINUX junkies together for that. Dissenter
I thought that stuff like this was supposed to be over in the 40's. Companies continue to overwhealm government and society over all because they have too much money. Maybe I'm just jealous, I mean I wouldn't complain if I had that much cash, but I don't so I'll whine. Anyway, we should all just sit back and get used to it for now. I just can't wait for y2k. I have a good feeling that over 50% of Microsoft users are going to have a big wake up call when their computer won't boot on Jan 1. Muhuhahahahaha
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One of the things about many of the Slachdot readers is the fact that we tend to like things that are a little different when compared to "the norm." We like to use operating systems that many people find "hard to use" because we can manipulate it far more than other OSes. Even our social lives are a little different from others, in that we chat online more than we call people on the phone. RPN should be a natural proggression for most people here.
But let's not forget something that really matters here. There's one thing that really stuck out to me that should make us all stand up and recognize Mr. Hewlett and Mr. Packard and that is their management style and attitude towards running a technology company.
Hewlett and Packard shared basic beliefs about managing a company: disdain of strict hierarchy and formality, admiration for individual creativity and initiative, and trust in employees. Packard wrote down the company credo, which became known as the "HP Way."
Now what Slashdot user can disagree with that? This RPN or no RPN discussion has taken focus away from some of the greatest things about HP. I'm not a huge media fan, but their comercials, as of late, are rather good in their portrayal of a company who's major goal is "Inovation." I thank every person alive and passed on that has helped change the face of business today because of their willingness to discard appearance and structure and focus on making things better.
My hat goes off to you Mr. Hewlett. Your life has been an inspiration to all and we thank you for your wonderful contributions.
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I have been implementing databases and designing systems like this for years in the medical industry and let me tell you that there is nothing more annoying than having to use the wrong technology and write extra code to work around the lack of functionality. Save yourself the headache!
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Variation on the Star Wars program? I know my Uncle has been working with the Air Force on this type of stuff for a while. It's not like this all just disappeared. This really is a great use for all the thought that has gone into photon weaponry over the decade. Way to go NASA! Now, with all the coorporations building space craft, why dosen't NASA build for coorporations or even *gasp* the public! I know I wouldn't mind having a non leathal weapon to knock over that bully at school that always asks me for my lunch money. haha
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I will gladly accept donations on behalf of k5.
j/k
On a serious note, I want to reiterate that it's great to see everyone rallying together like this. Where exactly are the k5 staff located? That information may help out in letting you know what we can do to help. If you're in the Chicago area, I know a great bunch that would love to assist you guys. Since you aren't necessarily going to be able to go through all your mail, I thought it would be an idea to post that here.
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Who cares about a file size limit. Oracle databases are designed to span multipule files. DO you really think that no Oralce/Linux system goes over 2GB? LOL
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Alright! Now I know what to ask my Grandpa to get me for Christmas! I think this will finally give me the edge I need to win the CPL. I should pull about 98763214 frames per second in Quake 3. Guess I have to buy a new car to bring it to the next LAN party though.
Dissenter
There is a company in California with a company name and domain name that is the name of a piece of software that my company designs. The CEO asked me to register the domain since he tried to browse to it and it didn't come up. Well, this was true but the whois information says:
Record expires on 07-Jun-2000.
Record created on 06-Jun-1995.
Database last updated on 8-Jul-2000 18:43:43 EDT.
I tried to register it on the 8th of June thinking that an expiration date meant that the registration expires on that day, but no. So I called Network Solutions.
Apparantly the expiration date means nothing. It's not accurate and is designed to make it so that technical people that know to check whois information for expiration dates don't have "an unfair advantage over non-technical people in the battle to get the rights to a domain." This is honestly what they told me.
Personally I'm sick and tired of their shit. I think it's high time we do something about it. Now, I'm not exactly a major activist or anything, but I'm going to write a letter to them listing domains that are not released and the names of people that are complaining. I hope I don't crash my ISPs mail server with a /. effect, but if you want me to add your name and/or a domain that isn't released e-mail me. Hell, I'm doing this for work anyway, so why not get a group effort behind it.
Dissenter
Dissapointing but true. This could be lots of fun for those of us with Visors. I noticed that the module port in the Visor is quite simmilar to the Gameboy. How about a hardware hack to run the actual GB carts in the emulator on a Visor! Could be nice for people that own a bunch of GB games but want to look professional in business meetings.
Dissenter
First off, Duke Nukem 3D was made by 3D Realms. Check your sources before you start your crazy ranting.
Secondly if you really think that /. readers don't play these games you are very wrong as is evident by previous articles like Quake 3 to be sold Retail for Linux. There is an interest in this. Try running a search for Quake on /. and you'll come up with a ton of results. If you really have a problem with violent games, maybe you should speak out against the /. readers since we tend to like Quake 3 and other id releases.
Also you refered to Quake players as Windoze kiddies who just want to run around and shoot stuff. Try reading the article above. WOW it's not just for "Windoze." Maybe you should just stop trying to be so god damn 31337 and voice YOUR opinion rather than trying to portray your post as the feelings of the entire "Linux community."
I love Quake 3 and the attention that this game has earned in the gamming community is almost unmatched. More money is awarded to "CyberAtheletes" like Wombat (Mark Larsen) CPL player of the year from 1999 than ever before. I am pleased to see this much attention being directed to gamming. It makes companies write better games, and gives player more to enjoy.
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Ah yes. Beautiful Plumage!
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Why is it that every time I get ready to build my new computer, there is something new that I can't wait for. God bless technology!!
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How dare you sport thus with life?" asks Frankenstein of his creator, who loved technology but was impatient when it came to thinking much about how he was going to use it.
So here we finally arrive at the pinnacle of man's audacty.
"Today we are learning the language in which God created life."
So we really think that we have caught up to God? Are we so small minded that we think that there is nothing more to learn here? Before I'm flamed right off the face of the earth let me say that there is no way that I'm trying to speak against medical and genetic research. The advancements that we have made here are amazing and I wouldn't want to be without them, but when leaders come forward and compare our understanding with diety I have to question it. At least God has something to show for his knowledge. We have nothing to show for it. What is understanding if there is no tangable result? Can we prove that our "Road map to the future" isn't just taking us down a path to destruction? It seems that we've given ourselves a bit too much credit this early in the game. Where are the results?
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Something that you may not have thought of is this:
Last week when I was talking to a rep from UUnet I was pleased to hear that even if MCI/Sprint do merge, they will only keep the UUnet portion of Internet sales. All of the Sprint ISPs and backbone lines will be sold off to smaller and, possibly, new companies. This isn't making less competition. This is giving more power to the competition and creating new competitors. Why would the US turn this down then?
Here's my thought:
Just like personal income tax, my understanding is that businesses pay a higher percentage if they make more money (Graduated Tax). This means that even if the same revenue is made be 4 smaller companies, the US government will make less money compared to Sprint making that same profit in one company.
This is a disappointment as far as I can see it. With UUnet as the most reliable ISP on the planet and Sprint doing all lf this research in multi-frequency digital optical signals, I would expect progress to come a lot faster with the merger. So once again we see greed standing in the way of progress.
There's my 2 cents.
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Yeah, but if I sign up for 3 years of MSN I can get $400 off! /me bitchslaps himself
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You know, looking back, I really wish that I had a chance to experience the excitement of the US landing on the moon and walking around. I have always thought that space stations and lunar colonies would be the wave of the future, but it's not. NASA seems to be too busy conducting experiments of "Wow check out how these tomatoes grow in zero gravity." Well frankly I'm a little tired of it. I want to see all my Star Wars dreams become real. I like Sci-Fi. I want to be part of this "wave of the future." Quite honestly I'm a bit disappointed that I can't go to the moon yet, so if HDTV pictures are the best I can get, I'll take 'em.
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I guess as long as our guns aren't running CE we may still survive. As the saying goes, "Whoever has the most guns wins." We've been trying to lose that battle for years, but fortunatly there have been a few people (Ronald Regan, George Bush) that have at least had the foresight to make enough that we still have more than everyone else. Can you imagine though?
Bill Gates is facing the firing squad.
Comander: "Ready, Aim...."
Soldier: "Um, sir the guns are rebooting."
Bill: "Hahaha I knew this day would come so I put my curse on all of your weapons. Muhuhuhahaha..."
Dissenter
ZDNet has an interview with a guy named Mixter who's tool TFN2K is being blamed for these DDOS attacks. I don't get the feeling that he's a M$ guy undercover. Read the interview at http://www.zdnet.com/ zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2436358,00.html He claims that he is trying to prove his point that "The Net is as susceptible to hack attacks as its weakest parts." Well, I guess unsecured routers would be the weakest point...
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After Lopht released it's notorious Lopht Crack program, I had hoped to see better things coming out of Redmond this time. Having talked with Muhamed Kadeeb, a Senior Developer on the Windows 2000 project, I think I have come to the conclusion that they can delay Win 2K as long as they want, and it still won't mean a damn. The basic security structure of Windows NT BEGS to be hacked and with these MCSE wielding "sysadmins" that think that having a piece of paper means something, just clicking the 'Next' button on an Install Shield script without thinking about what's going on, installing all sorts of shit on their servers, programs like BO will always find a home.
Also, I think that a serious look should be taken from a different perspective in the OS war. Lets think about the people that are admins on an NT run network vs. people that are admins on Linux run networks. Now I don't think I'm being to stereotypical here when I say that Linux admins are going to be FAR more likely to actually go through the steps necessary to secure that box than an NT admin. We are talking about the difference between a hacker (in the code hacker sense) versus an MCSE peon. Both systems need work to secure. Granted Linux systems are going to be secured tighter thanks to a host of reasons that I won't go into here, but there's always work to be done to get a network running well.
It's not always about the program. Remember there's always a person behind that computer and a lot of this depends more on them than the program.
Dissenter
Ok, I think people are getting the wrong idea about COMDEX. This is a really good conference. COMDEX is put on by a company that does these things globally. There is COMDEX in Canada, France and others. There are companies for everything there from IBM to Apple to Red Hat etc.. I have been to the last few of these and they are a lot of fun. I have a group of a few people who are going.(we live an hour from downtown) If you are interested in joining this escapade, e-mail me. I could probably have a few people crash at my house if necessary. Windows World is a seperate part of COMDEX. Since M$ has too much cash, they blow it on taking over a huge chunk of the expo, but from past experiences, it's in a seperate building all together and you pay an extra fee to get into it. If you want to get free expo passes for COMDEX, to see the expo and not keynotes/Windows World/ LINUX Pavilion go to www.comdex.com and use the registration code mb. LINUX Pavilion is like $200 extra for everything including keynotes and, as mentioned by others, there are givaways galore. If you can't fill a backpack, you didn't try. The keynotes are presentations and discussions. Don't read too much into the word "keynote" cause everyone who gets to do a private presentation outside of the expo is a "keynote." Bill is just as "keynote" as Linus. Anyway, e-mail me if you want to go, cause I'm going to get a nice list started. These things are always more fun with a bunch of other people with simmilar interests. (btw, that $200 is cheap for something like this and the cash goes to pay COMDEX expenses, so don't think you are paying M$ or something)
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Hey, I'll be the first to admit that I'm a computer nerd. Hell, that's a compliment. Don't like it? Just wait till you meet me and I'm your boss. muhuhuhahahah Still, I guess we should be trying to keep up a good appearence. Hey, I wonder if Obi-Wan will be at Comdex Spring in Chicago for the first "Linux Pavilion." That'll look good with all the big-wigs right? I think I'll get out my light saber from 4th grade and take him down.
On a personal note, are any others going to that Linux Pavilion. It's like $200 for 4 days and a hell-o-fun. E-mail me if you are interested. I want to get a big group of us Star-War-lookin' LINUX junkies together for that.
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I don't think Bill can walk with "balls this big." Hell, if I had his money, why would I bother to walk.
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I thought that stuff like this was supposed to be over in the 40's. Companies continue to overwhealm government and society over all because they have too much money. Maybe I'm just jealous, I mean I wouldn't complain if I had that much cash, but I don't so I'll whine. Anyway, we should all just sit back and get used to it for now. I just can't wait for y2k. I have a good feeling that over 50% of Microsoft users are going to have a big wake up call when their computer won't boot on Jan 1.
Muhuhahahahaha
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