The article is about Linux use as much as it's about the kernel. ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
Or if you're not terribly concerned about sandboxing the client, see if WINE likes it. ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
The binaries are still linux ELF format no matter the cpu. So long as the source doesn't make any assumtions or kludges for specific hardware it shouldn't require more than a recompile on the new hardware.
As well, most of the popular daemons and apps are coded multiarchitecture (love those ifdefs) from the get-go. ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
Just install it in a machine and have it perform triple-duty as hub, firewall and network card. No hub sitting around to worry about, a bit less cabling perhaps...
However, I do agree that this doesn't have much of a future in enterprise environments outside of maybe being used internally for firewalling off small groups of machines from the rest of the LAN/WAN. ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
I've seen these on the shelves at several small computer shops here in Ottawa, Canada (not sure about big-name stores though, I tend to avoid them and their inflated prices). They look awfully real for vapourware.
I suppose the boxes could actually be empty, in which case I'd have to wonder how they got these places to stock them.:-P
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
The PCI slots only lose power on a power cycle (or maybe a hard reset on older power supplies). With this thing being completely self-contained it will continue to function during normal reboots, resets (on ATX power) or even total OS failure.
Though it does beg the question of why it couldn't just be a seperate device... space, maybe? With those 3 ports it can perform the duties of a 4-port hub with less hardware and cabling. ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
I still wouldn't want to run into something going that fast.:-P ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
For something as complex as an OS kernel with hundreds (thousands?) of drivers, that list looks quite small. ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
The indrema uses USB ports. Conceivably, you could share any of your PC/mac's USB peripherals. ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
We have MUCH more experience heating our planet up and pumping nasty gasses into the atmosphere than we do removing them and cooling it.:-P ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
I can't even get 99% reliability out of office2000 on native win98.
At least if it crashes under wine it isn't going to take your desktop session with it.;) ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
No joke...
The funniest thing I've seen this week was a President's Choice banking machine in a grocery store, proudly displaying a BSOD to all passersby. ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
IPv6 systems shouldn't have a problem accessing IPv4 address space. 64.28.67.48 in v4 is just::::40:1C:43:30 in v6, and vice versa. Hell, I'd expect most apps (or even the socket layer itself) to be "user friendly" by allowing use of 0-255 for each byte field in the address and just convert it to hex, as well as assume all preceeding fields are 00 if too few are provided, as with an v4 address.
If the protocol itself isn't backwards-compatible I see no reason why it can't just be wrapped or translated. This is probably moot anyway though, since I'd expect most sites to just run both protocols during transition. ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
Don't be fooled by the appearance of a single swap file. That sucker is fragmented all over the place. A resizable swap file is definately a hands-off convenience, but it's a Very Bad Thing(tm).
Each time windows needs more swap, it will just grab a chunk of available HD space. Each time it does this your swap file fragments more and more. This is compounded by the fact that windows tends to free up chunks of these chunks and/or grab more elsewhere as memory needs change. Not only does this fragment your swapped memory, it fragments your HD as well. It becomes an absolute mess in short order so you need frequent defrags.
Even on my win98 machine I've just guesstimated the amount of swap I'll ever need and made the swap file a fixed 400mb. No more HD grinding during resizes for me, and my overall performance is better for it. If I ever need more, I'll increase the size (though this is a pain under windows because it requires a reboot).
On my linux machines I've got swap partitions (approx 2x physical memory), because not only do they not resize and fragment, they eliminate the filesystem overhead associated with paging to swap files. If I'm in a real pinch and need more I can just create swap files and activate them without requiring a reboot. These augment existing swap space, not replace it. When the swap file(s) have outlived their usefulness and I want the space back I can just deactivate and remove them (and no, you don't lose anything that might still be in them, that stuff gets shunted to live memory when you deactivate the swap file).
A resizing swap file that doesn't fragment, and maintenance downtime just for running swapon? What I want to know is: What are you smoking, and why aren't you sharing? ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
Whoa... When I thought "10 years ago", I was thinking XT and C64... but that was further back than 1990. I feel old.:-P ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
Actually, I think a home computer from 10 years ago would hit %100 cpu utilization and choke on current DSL or cable bandwidth. ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
What do we actually NEED?
Air, water, nourishment and maybe clothes & shelter for those of us living in climates that require protection from the elements.
Practically everything we have, we don't need... but this higher quality of life sure beats trying to eke out an existance living in caves.
I'd have to agree that many products ARE rediculous luxuries, but I find this particular box of metal, plastic and silicon to be a useful tool. ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
Volounteer groups can be large, but I've mentionned before that volounteers don't usually devote 8 hours or more a day like paid staff. Their active participation tends to be limited to their (wait for it) spare time, and only that spare time they choose to spend on it. In addition, more eyes means drastically more bugs found, more ideas shared and more code to impliment. Not surprisingly, this adds substantially to the man hours required to complete the project (good thing they have so many volounteers). It also contributes substantially to the quality of the finished product.
Open source development has a tendency to be very dynamic, especially with large groups. I somehow doubt you'll come across a project this large that allows itself to be held back by "some 6-year old to get free from his school exams" as you so demeaningly put it. On the contrary, the model lends very readily to shifting workloads simply because the project will be used to it. Peoples' spare time comes in small chunks, and at varying intervals. If a portion of code ever comes down to ONE person and that person isn't reliable, it's a definate management mistake on the part of the project maintainer(s), not the development model itself.
You'll forgive me if I take your anecdote with a huge grain of salt, as I've heard hundreds like it for (insert company or OSS group name here).
Who's to judge if a project is going downhill? Is it going downhill because it doesn't meet your personal opinion of what it should be right now? Did all the volounteers quit and tell only you? Is it going downhill because you've _known_ about it so long? What if nobody told you about it until a week before release? If the volounteers haven't given up the ghost yet, obviously THEY feel the need to save and defend their project; or heaven forbid, feel that their project is doing great and isn't in need of saving or defense.
I'll defend open source because I believe in it, but not the various projects underway themselves because my defending them is irrelevent. They don't need that kind of help from me.
I suggest research into OSS development before making such sweeping, and frankly disdainful, comments.
To whom it may concern: I'm using Mozilla build 2000101212 win32 to post this (it's my main browser, no less), haven't had any problems with the nightlies since the win32 threading bug a week or two back, and no problems before that to as far back as I've been using moz exclusively (M17). IMHO it has surpassed netscape at this point and is still steamrolling forward. When they reach 1.0 and can finally strip out all the debugging code, the boost ought to surprise casual users.
FYI: A trick I've come to use to get plugins where the plugin authors don't yet support mozilla is to simply copy the netscape version of the plugin into mozilla's plugin directory. This has worked perfectly with all four plugins I've tried: java (Sun's JRE1.3), flash 5, beatnik player, and modplug. ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
How about this analogy... In the morning at 9am, shove a large, jagged wood splinter into the soft flesh under one of your fingernails. At 5pm, remove it.
It hurts a little, sure, but tell that to someone who was but into a bodycast by falling rubble and they'll laugh at you, right?
Okay, now repeat this ritual with the splinter every weekday (and the occasional weekend or extra hours) and see if you can keep it up for years.
The point of my rambling? The small stuff doesn't look like much, but it adds up damned fast. ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
I don't know about anyone else, but under windows, ever since M17 I'd just drop in the plugin from JRE1.3 each time I overwwrote the seamonkey directory with a nightly build. It has worked every time and I've had full java support.
Just because the builds don't include a java plugin doesn't mean java can't work at all... Actually, you can usually throw just about any netscape plugin into mozilla's plugin directory and it will work (under windows at least. I haven't tested this with other OSes). I've had success with java, flash 5, beatnik, and modplug. Each time I simply copied them over from netscape's plugin dir. ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
Volounteers generally don't do their volounteered work 8 hours a day, which is why I'd expect it to progress more slowly than if they were all being paid to do so.
All software is fraught with bugs during development, especially software as complex as a browser suite. Of course mozilla has unfixed problems; have you forgotten that it's still under development? If some bugs and crashes are all you've got to worry about, I'd say that's damn good for software that wouldn't even be at the alpha-testing stage yet if it were a commercial product.
Making something open source doesn't have any magical, far-reaching effects. It simply means that the source code is available to any who want it, and authors often accept changes to that code if they prove to be an improvement. Reliability and stability are not automatic. They're simply a common result of having so many eyes poring over the code, scratching an itch, and sharing the fix.
I can't speak for everyone, but I made no such assumptions as you seem to suggest. To rehash a cliche: Waddya mean, WE? ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
Could be the cleanup for milestone release took a couple days and it's acually based on 10/10 or earlier. ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
Shoot... extrans didn't like that one bit. Here's the proper clickable link this time. ---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
Slashdot Mirror
The article is about Linux use as much as it's about the kernel.
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
Or if you're not terribly concerned about sandboxing the client, see if WINE likes it.
---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
The binaries are still linux ELF format no matter the cpu. So long as the source doesn't make any assumtions or kludges for specific hardware it shouldn't require more than a recompile on the new hardware.
As well, most of the popular daemons and apps are coded multiarchitecture (love those ifdefs) from the get-go.
---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
Just install it in a machine and have it perform triple-duty as hub, firewall and network card. No hub sitting around to worry about, a bit less cabling perhaps...
However, I do agree that this doesn't have much of a future in enterprise environments outside of maybe being used internally for firewalling off small groups of machines from the rest of the LAN/WAN.
---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
I've seen these on the shelves at several small computer shops here in Ottawa, Canada (not sure about big-name stores though, I tend to avoid them and their inflated prices). They look awfully real for vapourware.
:-P
I suppose the boxes could actually be empty, in which case I'd have to wonder how they got these places to stock them.
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
The PCI slots only lose power on a power cycle (or maybe a hard reset on older power supplies). With this thing being completely self-contained it will continue to function during normal reboots, resets (on ATX power) or even total OS failure.
Though it does beg the question of why it couldn't just be a seperate device... space, maybe? With those 3 ports it can perform the duties of a 4-port hub with less hardware and cabling.
---
Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
I still wouldn't want to run into something going that fast. :-P
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
BIOS password is schwasck
:-P
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
The BIOS password is "schwasck" (w/o quotes).
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
For something as complex as an OS kernel with hundreds (thousands?) of drivers, that list looks quite small.
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
The indrema uses USB ports. Conceivably, you could share any of your PC/mac's USB peripherals.
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
We have MUCH more experience heating our planet up and pumping nasty gasses into the atmosphere than we do removing them and cooling it. :-P
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
I can't even get 99% reliability out of office2000 on native win98. ;)
At least if it crashes under wine it isn't going to take your desktop session with it.
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
No joke...
The funniest thing I've seen this week was a President's Choice banking machine in a grocery store, proudly displaying a BSOD to all passersby.
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
IPv6 systems shouldn't have a problem accessing IPv4 address space. 64.28.67.48 in v4 is just ::::40:1C:43:30 in v6, and vice versa. Hell, I'd expect most apps (or even the socket layer itself) to be "user friendly" by allowing use of 0-255 for each byte field in the address and just convert it to hex, as well as assume all preceeding fields are 00 if too few are provided, as with an v4 address.
If the protocol itself isn't backwards-compatible I see no reason why it can't just be wrapped or translated. This is probably moot anyway though, since I'd expect most sites to just run both protocols during transition.
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
Don't be fooled by the appearance of a single swap file. That sucker is fragmented all over the place. A resizable swap file is definately a hands-off convenience, but it's a Very Bad Thing(tm).
Each time windows needs more swap, it will just grab a chunk of available HD space. Each time it does this your swap file fragments more and more. This is compounded by the fact that windows tends to free up chunks of these chunks and/or grab more elsewhere as memory needs change. Not only does this fragment your swapped memory, it fragments your HD as well. It becomes an absolute mess in short order so you need frequent defrags.
Even on my win98 machine I've just guesstimated the amount of swap I'll ever need and made the swap file a fixed 400mb. No more HD grinding during resizes for me, and my overall performance is better for it. If I ever need more, I'll increase the size (though this is a pain under windows because it requires a reboot).
On my linux machines I've got swap partitions (approx 2x physical memory), because not only do they not resize and fragment, they eliminate the filesystem overhead associated with paging to swap files. If I'm in a real pinch and need more I can just create swap files and activate them without requiring a reboot. These augment existing swap space, not replace it. When the swap file(s) have outlived their usefulness and I want the space back I can just deactivate and remove them (and no, you don't lose anything that might still be in them, that stuff gets shunted to live memory when you deactivate the swap file).
A resizing swap file that doesn't fragment, and maintenance downtime just for running swapon? What I want to know is: What are you smoking, and why aren't you sharing?
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
Whoa... When I thought "10 years ago", I was thinking XT and C64... but that was further back than 1990. I feel old. :-P
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
Actually, I think a home computer from 10 years ago would hit %100 cpu utilization and choke on current DSL or cable bandwidth.
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
What do we actually NEED?
Air, water, nourishment and maybe clothes & shelter for those of us living in climates that require protection from the elements.
Practically everything we have, we don't need... but this higher quality of life sure beats trying to eke out an existance living in caves.
I'd have to agree that many products ARE rediculous luxuries, but I find this particular box of metal, plastic and silicon to be a useful tool.
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
Volounteer groups can be large, but I've mentionned before that volounteers don't usually devote 8 hours or more a day like paid staff. Their active participation tends to be limited to their (wait for it) spare time, and only that spare time they choose to spend on it. In addition, more eyes means drastically more bugs found, more ideas shared and more code to impliment. Not surprisingly, this adds substantially to the man hours required to complete the project (good thing they have so many volounteers). It also contributes substantially to the quality of the finished product.
Open source development has a tendency to be very dynamic, especially with large groups. I somehow doubt you'll come across a project this large that allows itself to be held back by "some 6-year old to get free from his school exams" as you so demeaningly put it. On the contrary, the model lends very readily to shifting workloads simply because the project will be used to it. Peoples' spare time comes in small chunks, and at varying intervals. If a portion of code ever comes down to ONE person and that person isn't reliable, it's a definate management mistake on the part of the project maintainer(s), not the development model itself.
You'll forgive me if I take your anecdote with a huge grain of salt, as I've heard hundreds like it for (insert company or OSS group name here).
Who's to judge if a project is going downhill? Is it going downhill because it doesn't meet your personal opinion of what it should be right now? Did all the volounteers quit and tell only you? Is it going downhill because you've _known_ about it so long? What if nobody told you about it until a week before release? If the volounteers haven't given up the ghost yet, obviously THEY feel the need to save and defend their project; or heaven forbid, feel that their project is doing great and isn't in need of saving or defense.
I'll defend open source because I believe in it, but not the various projects underway themselves because my defending them is irrelevent. They don't need that kind of help from me.
I suggest research into OSS development before making such sweeping, and frankly disdainful, comments.
To whom it may concern: I'm using Mozilla build 2000101212 win32 to post this (it's my main browser, no less), haven't had any problems with the nightlies since the win32 threading bug a week or two back, and no problems before that to as far back as I've been using moz exclusively (M17). IMHO it has surpassed netscape at this point and is still steamrolling forward. When they reach 1.0 and can finally strip out all the debugging code, the boost ought to surprise casual users.
FYI: A trick I've come to use to get plugins where the plugin authors don't yet support mozilla is to simply copy the netscape version of the plugin into mozilla's plugin directory. This has worked perfectly with all four plugins I've tried: java (Sun's JRE1.3), flash 5, beatnik player, and modplug.
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
How about this analogy... In the morning at 9am, shove a large, jagged wood splinter into the soft flesh under one of your fingernails. At 5pm, remove it.
It hurts a little, sure, but tell that to someone who was but into a bodycast by falling rubble and they'll laugh at you, right?
Okay, now repeat this ritual with the splinter every weekday (and the occasional weekend or extra hours) and see if you can keep it up for years.
The point of my rambling? The small stuff doesn't look like much, but it adds up damned fast.
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
I don't know about anyone else, but under windows, ever since M17 I'd just drop in the plugin from JRE1.3 each time I overwwrote the seamonkey directory with a nightly build. It has worked every time and I've had full java support.
Just because the builds don't include a java plugin doesn't mean java can't work at all... Actually, you can usually throw just about any netscape plugin into mozilla's plugin directory and it will work (under windows at least. I haven't tested this with other OSes). I've had success with java, flash 5, beatnik, and modplug. Each time I simply copied them over from netscape's plugin dir.
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
Volounteers generally don't do their volounteered work 8 hours a day, which is why I'd expect it to progress more slowly than if they were all being paid to do so.
All software is fraught with bugs during development, especially software as complex as a browser suite. Of course mozilla has unfixed problems; have you forgotten that it's still under development? If some bugs and crashes are all you've got to worry about, I'd say that's damn good for software that wouldn't even be at the alpha-testing stage yet if it were a commercial product.
Making something open source doesn't have any magical, far-reaching effects. It simply means that the source code is available to any who want it, and authors often accept changes to that code if they prove to be an improvement. Reliability and stability are not automatic. They're simply a common result of having so many eyes poring over the code, scratching an itch, and sharing the fix.
I can't speak for everyone, but I made no such assumptions as you seem to suggest. To rehash a cliche: Waddya mean, WE?
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
Could be the cleanup for milestone release took a couple days and it's acually based on 10/10 or earlier.
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.
Shoot... extrans didn't like that one bit.
Here's the proper clickable link this time.
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Where can the word be found, where can the word resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.