The solution is clear: those who are writing distance-learning software should incorporate a clause into their liscenses which would forbid the use of the software for illegitimate "educational" purposes.
How can you define illegitimate education?
There are accreditation boards already in place for conventional educational facilities which would be ideal for judging the new online ones.
And if a company wanted to use it for training people around the world??? I don't think they'd be certified by any of the regional/national certification boards - so I guess that's illegit education?
Only then can we be sure that our children will be safe from the hate that looms on the horizon of the new millennium.
I believe that you'll find more hate looming in your home town with prejudice and racisim and general stupidity then you'll find in online courses.
We also use this. However, our people decided to run this on NT/Win2k. While Win2k has not been a problem itself, the WebCT product does not run too well on Win2k.
It is mainly a bunch of perl scripts and the apache server. However it seems their chat script is buggy as can be, and that most fixes involve a reboot. Their tech support isn't that great either - many times, even though they say they support NT/2k, they claim a problem is caused by us running it on there.
However, in their defense, our faculty love it and I think the students like it as well.
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1) What if someone paid for a +50 sword of carousing on ebay, but when they got the item in the game, it was only a +1 sword of mastubating? They complain to sony, who doesn't want to get involved in that crap.
I believe by installer he was talking about the "RedHat installer" or "debian installer" etc...not the install program you can use for installing your apps (ie. InstallShield).
While Windows may have some nasty library dependincies like you mentioned, I don't recall the last time I had a problem under Windows with library problems.
With Linux apps I pull down, everything seems to want every other library out there it can think of to be installed to run/compile. And those libraries that are required in turn want some other libraries.
While this problem may be true for Windows, a great job has been done to hide that.
Linux - I wanna install GIMP. IIRC, I need GTK+, GLIB, ImLib, LibJPEG, LibGIF, LibTIFF, LibPNG, and a lot more. And if I just downloaded an RPM of Gimp, I need to make sure I have all of those, and the correct versions. And if I grabbed the source, which is awsome to do, then I have to have all the development versions built.
Windows - I wanna install Photoshop. I check the options I want and click Next and I'm done. I don't know or care what it needed.
Yes, the "everyone shove stuff in \system32 is scary, but this is a desktop machine, not a server.
There is a chance for OSX to have some impact on the number of Linux users, or number of potential users. It depends on the location - is it going to be a place who thinks "Why buy that when I can download something for free to do the same thing?" - they'll go with Linux. Or is it going to be a place that thinks "Why try to put some free stuff together, when I can buy it from a bigname company and get their backing?" - they'll go with OSX.
Does OSX run on Intel? If not, then it'll be even less of an impact, as I don't see people buying G4's to put Linux on them (I'd like to, but we're talking about large volumes). If it does run on Intel, then MS has more to fear than Linux people would because the Mac people would be able to directly steal machines away from MS.
Any way you slice it, people who want to use Linux will not change. People who want to use Mac's will not change. People who want to use Windows will not change. There will be a minor handful who are in limbo about what they want to use, or have no say in what they use.
Because we haven't had a need for Linux support as of yet.:) Everything has either been solved here or a solution found on the net.
Of course most of those things have been odd issues trying to get several things to talk together. I believe we've only had one "problem" on a Linux box that took some hunting - sendmail related.
Our NT people on the other hand...while NT hasn't been a problem, the vendors who make software that run on it (ie. Computer Associates) suck for support.
Now in this case, MS will never win the managers because they don't have a clue.
My boss cares about two things:
- price
- support
He loves linux for the price, but is always nervous about the support issue. Though newsgroups and mailing lists have proven to be better support than the vendor blaming our NT folks get.
1) Confusing configuration You have many files in/etc (or a number of other places). In NT, you have the registry. I find/etc easier to deal with than hunting down this program or that to change something.
However, it seems some people go out of their way to prove just how well they can write a parser, providing only a rough overview of the general syntax of their config file language - this is what makes it both flexible and a pain in the rear for people not fully familiar with it.
2) Stupid directory structure
No worse than NT can be. Where are the DHCP logs (by default)? $WINNT$\system32\dhcp\log - kinda like putting them in/usr/lib/something - odd.
The nice thing about the/opt is that you can have/opt/netscape and put related in there - like \program files\netscape, however no dll's to be put in the system dir.
And alo unlike Windows, you can just rm -Rf/opt/netscape and be done with it. No registry or other odd things lingering.
I'm not saying the unix filesystem is perfect, but NT isn't much better.
Part of the problem is not that you can use/usr/local, or/opt, or/mycrap/bin/*, but that if you go to install one app from the net (precompiled) it may go to one place, and another to another. Even if you go to recompile, there may be a few defaults you don't catch.
The only way to be real safe is to stick with packages released by RedHat, Mandrake, or whoever your system is from - which then keeps you from running what you want if you are not a system god.
The main problem with Linux and Unix in general is also a strength. You can do it your way. Everytime someone bitches about how every X app is different, you have people saying that it's great cause it doesn't force anything on you. Same with the config files, locations, etc...
As soon as you unify config files, file locations, etc... you'll have a split and then we are no better off. You can't win.
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Not bad growth in a few hours.
1) no@no.no
2) setup a hotmail account if you actually need to have a password sent to you.
Sure...I get tons of spam at my seldom looked at hotmail account, but I could probably setup a brand new one and get the same amount of spam.
another moron has no clue.
cause real is crap - christ, it gives network congesstion on local hard drive files
That's been my fave so far. Made me laugh and it had a good point.
:) *drool*
I liked the silicon ad...oh wait, that was Ms. Spears at half time.
The solution is clear: those who are writing distance-learning software should incorporate a clause into their liscenses which would forbid the use of the software for illegitimate "educational" purposes.
How can you define illegitimate education?
There are accreditation boards already in place for conventional educational facilities which would be ideal for judging the new online ones.
And if a company wanted to use it for training people around the world??? I don't think they'd be certified by any of the regional/national certification boards - so I guess that's illegit education?
Only then can we be sure that our children will be safe from the hate that looms on the horizon of the new millennium.
I believe that you'll find more hate looming in your home town with prejudice and racisim and general stupidity then you'll find in online courses.
I remember back in around 1992, some guy from IBM demoing some program he wrote that uses a laserdisc for chemistry.
The idea was that you could select what you wanted to react (magnessium strip and fire) and it would play a pre-recorded scene of the result.
Pretty cold and inpersonal, however that may help with the "hands-on" experiments.
Personally, I like sitting in a class with a faculty member to learn, but I'm getting old.
We also use this. However, our people decided to run this on NT/Win2k. While Win2k has not been a problem itself, the WebCT product does not run too well on Win2k.
It is mainly a bunch of perl scripts and the apache server. However it seems their chat script is buggy as can be, and that most fixes involve a reboot. Their tech support isn't that great either - many times, even though they say they support NT/2k, they claim a problem is caused by us running it on there.
However, in their defense, our faculty love it and I think the students like it as well.
columbine?
I can think of two reasons't they'd mind:
1) What if someone paid for a +50 sword of carousing on ebay, but when they got the item in the game, it was only a +1 sword of mastubating? They complain to sony, who doesn't want to get involved in that crap.
2) Sony is not getting a % of the sell profit.
Yeah...but NSI will hold on to the domain name for at least 6 months after that! :)
How will kids learn the order of the planets now?
My Very Energetic Mom Just Sold Us Nothing?
AFAIK it's just there. I've believe that both tab and esc-esc work for it. I know what you mean about the HP-UX thing - ll everywhere :)
It's a joke sonny!
Actually, I can download the OS from there - MSDN Universal Subscription is fun.
How MS determines piracy:
2,000,000 computers were shipped last year in the US.
1,500,000 Windows licenses were obtained.
1/4th of all people using computers are using pirated copies of windows.
Last time I looked (5 minutes ago) Berlin seems to be tied to Linux via the GGI. That is a problem if you don't run Linux.
From what info I see on here, EVAS isn't, as long as you have the needed X extensions.
Okay...
But, lets say I wanna upgrade. For Photoshop, I install 5.5 or whatever - done.
For gimp, what if there is not a debian package for the newest release with all the required libs? Then I'm back in the same boat.
I'm gonna have to look at debian again - apt sounds a LOT better than dinstall ever was!
I believe by installer he was talking about the "RedHat installer" or "debian installer" etc...not the install program you can use for installing your apps (ie. InstallShield).
While Windows may have some nasty library dependincies like you mentioned, I don't recall the last time I had a problem under Windows with library problems.
With Linux apps I pull down, everything seems to want every other library out there it can think of to be installed to run/compile. And those libraries that are required in turn want some other libraries.
While this problem may be true for Windows, a great job has been done to hide that.
Linux - I wanna install GIMP. IIRC, I need GTK+, GLIB, ImLib, LibJPEG, LibGIF, LibTIFF, LibPNG, and a lot more. And if I just downloaded an RPM of Gimp, I need to make sure I have all of those, and the correct versions. And if I grabbed the source, which is awsome to do, then I have to have all the development versions built.
Windows - I wanna install Photoshop. I check the options I want and click Next and I'm done. I don't know or care what it needed.
Yes, the "everyone shove stuff in \system32 is scary, but this is a desktop machine, not a server.
There is a chance for OSX to have some impact on the number of Linux users, or number of potential users. It depends on the location - is it going to be a place who thinks "Why buy that when I can download something for free to do the same thing?" - they'll go with Linux. Or is it going to be a place that thinks "Why try to put some free stuff together, when I can buy it from a bigname company and get their backing?" - they'll go with OSX.
Does OSX run on Intel? If not, then it'll be even less of an impact, as I don't see people buying G4's to put Linux on them (I'd like to, but we're talking about large volumes). If it does run on Intel, then MS has more to fear than Linux people would because the Mac people would be able to directly steal machines away from MS.
Any way you slice it, people who want to use Linux will not change. People who want to use Mac's will not change. People who want to use Windows will not change. There will be a minor handful who are in limbo about what they want to use, or have no say in what they use.
Oh yeah - Coke also makes water - Dasani.
What about "News for nerds, stuff that matters"?
It was replaced with "Linux News, Paranoia, and Microsoft Bashing"
Because we haven't had a need for Linux support as of yet. :) Everything has either been solved here or a solution found on the net.
Of course most of those things have been odd issues trying to get several things to talk together. I believe we've only had one "problem" on a Linux box that took some hunting - sendmail related.
Our NT people on the other hand...while NT hasn't been a problem, the vendors who make software that run on it (ie. Computer Associates) suck for support.
Assuming that you believe that nt is crap. Sorry, I don't subscribe to the party line.
Now in this case, MS will never win the managers because they don't have a clue.
My boss cares about two things:
- price
- support
He loves linux for the price, but is always nervous about the support issue. Though newsgroups and mailing lists have proven to be better support than the vendor blaming our NT folks get.
1) Confusing configuration /etc (or a number of other places). In NT, you have the registry. I find /etc easier to deal with than hunting down this program or that to change something.
/usr/lib/something - odd.
/opt is that you can have /opt/netscape and put related in there - like \program files\netscape, however no dll's to be put in the system dir.
/opt/netscape and be done with it. No registry or other odd things lingering.
/usr/local, or /opt, or /mycrap/bin/*, but that if you go to install one app from the net (precompiled) it may go to one place, and another to another. Even if you go to recompile, there may be a few defaults you don't catch.
You have many files in
However, it seems some people go out of their way to prove just how well they can write a parser, providing only a rough overview of the general syntax of their config file language - this is what makes it both flexible and a pain in the rear for people not fully familiar with it.
2) Stupid directory structure
No worse than NT can be. Where are the DHCP logs (by default)? $WINNT$\system32\dhcp\log - kinda like putting them in
The nice thing about the
And alo unlike Windows, you can just rm -Rf
I'm not saying the unix filesystem is perfect, but NT isn't much better.
Part of the problem is not that you can use
The only way to be real safe is to stick with packages released by RedHat, Mandrake, or whoever your system is from - which then keeps you from running what you want if you are not a system god.
The main problem with Linux and Unix in general is also a strength. You can do it your way. Everytime someone bitches about how every X app is different, you have people saying that it's great cause it doesn't force anything on you. Same with the config files, locations, etc...
As soon as you unify config files, file locations, etc... you'll have a split and then we are no better off. You can't win.