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So, I'm sitting here half-watching the Super Bowl and admiring some of the new commericials. So far, I think that the E*trade Monkey with Horse ad has been really good, as has the Kasparov vs. The Machines - the accenture and cingular ads have been, IMHO, as bland as Wonder bread. That, and the Cingular icon looks like a bold color version of the X icon, or something. The E*Trade Matrix rip-off ad was good as well - but with one quarter left, I'm not as impressed as in past years. What do you folks think?Update: 01/29 06:29 PM by H :Check out AdCritic's Superbowl site.

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  1. Actually a more important question... by NNKK · · Score: 1

    Than what the best commercials are, is just how much the halftime show cost... EEP!

    1. Re:Actually a more important question... by PovRayMan · · Score: 1

      What are you doing?

      Hey NNKK, pick up the cordless!

      What are you doing?

      haha, that commercial owned.

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  2. ahh damn by pirodude · · Score: 1

    I knew there was something I forgot about

    1. Re:ahh damn by pirodude · · Score: 2

      well since I missed it, did CBS use those matrix style effects that /. reported a few days ago? If so I'm gonna be pissed :)

    2. Re:ahh damn by bgeiger · · Score: 2

      Yeah, they did...

      But if it's any consolation, the video quality was crap.

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    3. Re:ahh damn by Error27 · · Score: 4

      They had a bunch of cameras at the top of the stadium and they could switch from one camera's viewpoint to the next.

      The problem was it that looking down from that angle with that sort of zoom you couldn't see very much of the field. So they'd turn the view until it was directly behind the quarter back and then they'd say, "You can tell that he doesn't have anyone open from this view." But you couldn't. You could tell that he didn't have anyone open within 3 feet but you couldn't see anything that was happenning further on down the field.

    4. Re:ahh damn by grammar+nazi · · Score: 2
      It would have also helped the continuity if they didn't freeze the slowmotion play before rotating the camera. They would show part of the play, freeze, rotate, show more of the play, freeze rotate, show the rest of the play. I'm sure the computers can handle playing the entire thing in slowmotion and rotating it as it goes.

      They may have used a compression format that was sub-par as well, because watching the slowmotion plays had about as much quality as old football films from the '70s.

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    5. Re:ahh damn by BSOD+Bitch · · Score: 1

      It was DirecTV sending those signals to your H card.

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    6. Re:ahh damn by meatspray · · Score: 1

      I seemed that any of the play shots were getting some type of touchup, i'd bet the cameras don't move and they just clip a certain field of view out of them.(that'd explain the small view angle) you'll notice all of the shots used for the play field (at least for the first half) didn't get prepared until after return from commercial break, at the half time show they did the trick(with good quality) on Tyler, but he was dead center in the field. if they try this again they really need to speed up and improve the processing technique (photovista did a better job 3 years ago). In my opinion they should just slow time with the shots, right now it's like 5 snapshots, if they let 50ms or so lapse between frames I think I might be more usefull.

    7. Re:ahh damn by bgeiger · · Score: 1

      Heh.

      Thankfully, CBS still broadcasts over the airwaves...

      (Disclaimer: I've never used a phony H card. I don't use DirecTV. I don't even LIKE DirecTV.)

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  3. pets.com by paulychamp · · Score: 5

    the pets.com puppet had a killer cameo, it's good to see he is still getting work.

  4. I dont get to see the ads by QDerf · · Score: 2

    ...coz I'm in Canada and my bloody cable company replaces all the ads with crummy random boring local ads!! grr! I'm missing half the show! At least I got to see a Powerbook G4 add that I hadn't seen yet, but still!

    1. Re:I dont get to see the ads by cosmic+heat+death · · Score: 1

      it's not Canada, it's Canadia, you fool.

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    2. Re:I dont get to see the ads by DarthVdr · · Score: 1

      I was pissed last year, so much in fact that i'm not even watching this year. Damn the CRTC and the Canadian content laws! if i wanted to see shit comercials on Fox, i'd have tuned into global in the first place.
      Dosen't this kind of violate the terms of the cable contract? I paid to get fox out of rochester, not to have global st. john on 2 channels...
      I bought my folks a satilite dish, and they don't signal switch. if you're watching FoxRO, you see FoxRO. How come the cable can't do the same thing as the sat people? i wont get cable tv in my next apt, and i'm going to call the company and tell them exactly why i'm not getting the service.
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    3. Re:I dont get to see the ads by QDerf · · Score: 2

      A radio station here (quebec city, CHOI) tried to convince (petitions etc) videotron into not letting global put their ads on the CBS (or whatever) channel two years ago, and didn't manage it. They even had videotron people in the studio one morning, that was interesting. They organize a special event for the superbowl since then, in a large Universite Laval hall, where you can go watch the superbowl with the ads etc but I don't know where they get their feed from. Oh well. Evolution will catch up with the CRTC someday I guess, just give em time....

    4. Re:I dont get to see the ads by thechink · · Score: 1

      Damn the CRTC and the Canadian content laws!

      It has nothing to do with Canadian content laws. It's all about protecting Canadian advertisers. Whenever two stations are playing the same program, the local channel is substituted. That way you see the commercials that Canadian advertisers paid for. I've also seen this done between two Canadian stations. The local station's signal is substituted, this protects the local advertisers.

      Personally I think it's a good thing, it keeps money in the country. So what would you rather have, a couple of laughs or millions of dollars staying in Canada?

    5. Re:I dont get to see the ads by kilrogg · · Score: 1

      Did you see how they also added Canadian adds to the superbowl? They added (via computer effect) a sprint canada ad on the playing field and I saw a Canadian Tire ad up at the top of the stands. At least the Budweiser blimp wasn't replaced by a Molson blimp!

  5. Commercials by kezdeth · · Score: 1

    Yeah, the eTrade on was nicely done.

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  6. Budweiser by mfinke · · Score: 1

    The Budweiser Wazzuuup commercial with the aliens had me laughing the most. The e*Trade one with the monkey and the horse was another good one. Otherwise I've been unimpressed.

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    1. Re: Budweiser by linuxpimp · · Score: 1

      I liked the "What are you doing" commercial better, even if it is a mildly offensive piece of class warfare contrasting "the beer of the common man" against the "beer of yuppie stockbrokers." "Watching the financial recap, drinking an import" fits my dad to a tee. One of two commercials this year that actually made me laugh. (The other one was the cameo by the tattered pets.com sock in the e*trade ghosttown.)

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    2. Re:Budweiser by clancey · · Score: 1

      I liked the Budweiser commercial with the preppies.

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    3. Re: Budweiser by BSOD+Bitch · · Score: 1

      Shouln't that be /dev/gf0?

      :)

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    4. Re:Budweiser by bvspyker · · Score: 1

      There's no way the current Bud ads are going to replace the ants/anteater (minor players 2 years ago) or the frogs (with all their co-conspiritors) - If this is the end of the frog Bud-Why-Sir series, then I am going to request a video compilation - they definately played a better game than this years football players did

    5. Re: Budweiser by linuxpimp · · Score: 1

      Hehe. I used to use the same sig on my e-mail, and I had enough problems explaining to non tech people what it meant, let alone what a "leet haxor" was, so I doubt those people are ready for another level of obscurity...

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  7. pepsi by astr0boy · · Score: 1

    the best comercial was the pepsi one with bob dole. hilarious.

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    1. Re:pepsi by Micah · · Score: 1

      I agree -- that one was great!

    2. Re:pepsi by Bilbo · · Score: 1

      The only commercial I saw with a real surprise twist.

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    3. Re:pepsi by ackatack · · Score: 1

      all of the pepsi commercials since they got that little bratty girl and adopted the "ba b-ba ba baaaaa" sounds have not been very good

  8. I enjoyed.... by CyberXine · · Score: 1

    the E*Trade commercial as well. I also enjoyed the pepsi one with the prison.

  9. Damn by arseonick · · Score: 1

    Haven't had any TV since last sunday when Dave ECM'd us--oh well, good ol' emulator should be here Wednesday/Thursday. Anyone know any good books?

    1. Re:Damn by suwain_2 · · Score: 1
      Anyone know any good books?

      I realize you were half-kidding (at least) when you said this, but I figured I'd answer.

      I have been particularly impressed with a series of three books, all from a man named Ted L. Nancy.

      Letters From a Nut

      More Letters From a Nut

      Extra Nutty: Even More Letters From a Nut

      Essentially, this guy writes letters to companies about the most bizarre topics, and receives replies back that are sometimes funnier than his original letters. The letters range from weird to silly to just plain bizarre (like when he wrote to a hotel informing them of his 'disability' -- he eats the drapes in the room.)

      I suggest you take a look at these books! I have all three. I read them repeatedly. I force everyone I know to read them... I'm not sure which online book store is "in" at the moment (both Amazon and BN seem to have made some major social no-no's in the geek culture; I myself don't follow which book company is "in"), but Amazon.com has excellent reviews on all three books; they include a few sample letters. Read them. I think you'll end up doing what I did and buying them.

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    2. Re:Damn by Apotsy · · Score: 1
      I'm not sure which online book store is "in" at the moment...

      I say it should be Wordsworth. No silly patent nonsense or big-company-trying-to-crush-the-little-guy crap. p.Plus, they were on the 'net a full two years before Amazon.

    3. Re:Damn by arseonick · · Score: 1

      I'll check those out, thanks. =)

  10. what is this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Since when did the Stupor Bowl have anything to do with "news for nerds"?

    1. Re:what is this? by MathJMendl · · Score: 1

      The Super Bowl does not have to do with "news for nerds" directly, but with millions of dollars being paid into high tech ads, which often bring out some of the best of the year, it can be pretty interesting stuff. And notice how the news article did not comment on the game.

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    2. Re:what is this? by theancient1 · · Score: 1

      Well, the little Matrix-like effect they're doing this year falls in the "news for nerds" category. What does everyone think of that? I find it pretty cool -- a bit jumpy, but what can you expect for live video processing? In a few years, they'll be able to make it as smooth as a movie effect.

      The thing I didn't get was the Backstreet Boys (or N*Sync of 98 Degrees or whoever they were -- I wasn't paying attention, and they're all the same to me.) Does the superbowl have a huge audience of pre-teen girls I'm not aware of?

    3. Re:what is this? by theancient1 · · Score: 1

      Maybe I should have been a bit more specific... I was referring to this Matrix-like thing, not the one in the commercial. (Since I don't live in the U.S., I didn't see the E*Trade Matrix commercial. I'll have to check them out on AdCritic later)

    4. Re:what is this? by ladyfractal · · Score: 1

      Geeks do not live by Perl alone my friend. After a hard week of geeking, it's kind of nice to sit down, pop open a Sam Adams, munch quesadillas and watch the Ravens spank the Giants like they stole something! Maybe the Super Bowl isn't your thing, okay *shrug*, baseball is just a painful reminder of how long it is between the Super Bowl and the start of Monday Night Football. But I like excellence in any of its forms. And the fact is, if you *like* the game of football--and I do--today was a good day to watch football. And the ads were really disappointing overall. The Kasparov, the Bob Dole Pepsi ad, and the Running of the Squirrels were the best of the evening. Overall, a weak showing--GREAT football game though! Cheers LF

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    5. Re:what is this? by Zico · · Score: 1

      The Matrix thing was cool. I've seen people complain that it was too jerky, but big deal — it's not pretending to be a seamless real-time kind of thing. It's like someone complaining that the tape they made of a lo-fi band doesn't sound 100% true. The way they could zoom around and show a clear running lane and things like that was very nice.

      The Super Bowl doesn't have a large pre-teen girl audience, which is exactly why they brought in the boy bands, so that they could increase their ratings among those demographics. The hard core football fans are going to be watching anyway. It's the same reason why the networks ruin their sports coverage by giving us all those sappy personal profiles — it gives the female audience that normally wouldn't turn in a reason to watch.

      The E*trade monkey was awesome again, although I was hoping that they'd have a later commercial with him happy and dancing again. That and the Bob Dole/Pepsi commercial and the yuppies/"What are you up to?" commercial are the only things that made me laugh. Oh yeah, the EDS/Running of the Squirrels was funny, too, but the fact that it was a total ripoff of their Cat-herding commercial last year was disappointing.

      Like I said, the yuppies commercial was funny, but I wonder what the reaction would've been if parallel racial stereotypes would've been played with. Say, a takeoff of those student achievement commercials with black kids inventing a new kind of pager with which to sell drugs, or an Ebonics spelling bee. Somehow I don't think they'd be seen with such good humor...


      Cheers,

    6. Re:what is this? by vroon · · Score: 1

      what do you mean it was a good football game? it was one of the most pitiful displays of athetics i've seen in a long time. i was so bored that i started sleeping during the game and waking up for the commercials. no one did anything for the first half. the only part that was worth watching was the back-to-back kickoff runbacks.

    7. Re:what is this? by KahunaBurger · · Score: 3
      The Super Bowl doesn't have a large pre-teen girl audience, which is exactly why they brought in the boy bands, so that they could increase their ratings among those demographics. The hard core football fans are going to be watching anyway. It's the same reason why the networks ruin their sports coverage by giving us all those sappy personal profiles -- it gives the female audience that normally wouldn't turn in a reason to watch.

      uh, yeah. "I hate sports, but gee, they have sappy personal profiles of people I don't care about. better tune in!"

      I know some women who were planning on watching the Bowl, and they either a) really REALLY liked football and couldn't wait to see the game, b) were in an office pool, or c) thought the commercials might be cool. In other words, the exact same reasons men were planning on watching.

      Its possible that once they are watching, women like the profiles more than men (though hero worship is pretty thick amoung football watching guys, so I wouldn't bet on it) but you have the cause and effect mixed up. Women have constituted a good chunk of superbowl viewers for years, the sponsors are just now waking up and considering that part of their audience.

      Like I said, the yuppies commercial was funny, but I wonder what the reaction would've been if parallel racial stereotypes would've been played with. Say, a takeoff of those student achievement commercials with black kids inventing a new kind of pager with which to sell drugs, or an Ebonics spelling bee. Somehow I don't think they'd be seen with such good humor...

      yeah, funny how poking fun at people on the top of the heap is taken better than kicking those already at the bottom. Who would have thunk it? (sarcasm off)

      Didn't see the commercial, but I'm curious how much "racial" stereotyping was actually going on as opposed to class stereotyping. The latter has always been very common in "blue collar" humor, the former much rarer.

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    8. Re:what is this? by Darby · · Score: 1

      baseball is just a painful reminder of how long it is between the Super Bowl and the start of Monday Night Football.

      Right on Lady Fractal. That is the best description of that game I have ever heard ;-)


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    9. Re:what is this? by MadAhab · · Score: 1
      The Super Bowl doesn't have a large pre-teen girl audience, which is exactly why they brought in the boy bands, so that they could increase their ratings among those demographics. The hard core football fans are going to be watching anyway. It's the same reason why the networks ruin their sports coverage by giving us all those sappy personal profiles — it gives the female audience that normally wouldn't turn in a reason to watch
      That's not really true. I know some of the people who make those sappy personal profiles and they make them because the network bigshots think you are too stupid to enjoy sports without them.

      But n'stink? Yah, right, that's what goes together, 13yo girls and drunken superbowl fans. And I can see that Budweiser, EDS, and E*trade really need to reach out to 13yo girls. Great.

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  11. I agree, although the monkey was great... by smoondog · · Score: 1

    After the "We spent 200000 in this add", etrade monkey ad from last year, Adding the monkey with the sock puppet was great. Other ads aren't very good. Didn't find the kasparov add that funny, but I'm biased against all soft drink ads. The squirrel ad was pretty funny when compared the cat hearders from last year.

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  12. Yup, the game must be very exciting by Kwelstr · · Score: 1

    You know if you are rating commercials... well, how low can you get?

    Super Bowl watching is for suckers. I like football, but not this commercial atrofy.

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  13. Pepsi and Doritos by Ratteau · · Score: 1


    Id have to say its a tie so far between Pepsi's Kasparov commercial, and the return of Ali Landry for Doritos. You just dont expect that outcome there :)

  14. Budwieser by jcampb12 · · Score: 4

    The Bud commercials have been pretty good, esp the one with "What are you doing?," "Just watching the market, drinkin' an import" and "Hey Jimmy, pick up the cordless." Just shows that you have a sense of humor when you can make fun of yourself. BTW--anyone else notice that it is no longer the Budwieser blimp, it's the Budwieser.com blimp. I think they missed that bandwagon by a year.

    1. Re:Budwieser by rabtech · · Score: 2

      BTW--anyone else notice that it is no longer the Budwieser blimp, it's the Budwieser.com blimp. I think they missed that bandwagon by a year.

      LOL... more proof that humans have this knack for restating the obvious. For example: (refer to 'Hitchhiker's Guide')

      "It's a nice day outside."

      "You are very tall."

      "WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!1"
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    2. Re:Budwieser by Pfhreakaz0id · · Score: 2

      The interesting thing I thought about that is ... have you noticed there have been a lot more commercials ridiculing "faggy" import beers by Coors, Bud, and other American swill beers lately? I think, thanks mostly to the microbrewery movement, Americans are discovering real beer. Not that there's anything wrong with a tradition light Pilsner (i.e. Coors & Bud) but people are finding out there's a lot more to beer than that.

      Your typical American housewife saying she "doesn't like beer" is about like someone saying they don't like bread when all they've eaten is Wonder Bread (plain white bread, for those abroad).


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  15. Commercials not as good this year by BenCaxton · · Score: 1

    I don't think the commercials are as good this year as they were in past years... I have always liked the bud ads in the past but there just kind of boring this year. No Frogs. The snickers ones are alright though. You would think that for what an ad spot costs they would be more entertaining.

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  16. E*Trade by adamk007 · · Score: 1
    I agree. So far only E Trade has had decent commercials. The rest are just generic.

    Not as good as the previous Super Bowls, I'm disappointed.

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  17. Did anyone see the "other" commercial?? by Triode · · Score: 2

    I was watching Futurama (sorry) since I had not seen it in a long time and there was no game on that channel :) when I saw a (bah!) M$ commercial. New one, about how _reliable_ thier servers are. It showed an empty office with servers in it and spoke of how everyone was home enjoying milk and cookies with no worries because Redmond was running the show. I wonder if this is just to tout the "new" OS, or M$ standard campaign to make you forget about all of those outages last week at thier server farm...

    1. Re:Did anyone see the "other" commercial?? by 1337d00d · · Score: 1

      Well, all the MS people were out eating milk and cookies, and so nobody noticed the servers go down. But they can still run YOUR servers!!

    2. Re:Did anyone see the "other" commercial?? by Saint+Nobody · · Score: 2

      it looks to be a whole new campaign. i saw two of those tonight. one for their database software and one for their web server software. both of them made me want to attack somebody with a sharpened slackware cd.

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    3. Re:Did anyone see the "other" commercial?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It says they can run for DAYS without attention. Even a whole WEEK, I think it said. Are you sure it wasn't just part of Futurama, tho?

    4. Re:Did anyone see the "other" commercial?? by Mr_Icon · · Score: 4

      when I saw a (bah!) M$ commercial. New one, about how _reliable_ thier servers are. It showed an empty office with servers in it and spoke of how everyone was home enjoying milk and cookies with no worries because Redmond was running the show.

      I first saw it on Comedy Central, so I just figured it was part of the program.

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    5. Re:Did anyone see the "other" commercial?? by Wonko42 · · Score: 2
      This is Microsoft's new "reliability" ad campaign, which was launched a week or so before their DNS went down and they got DOSed. There's been talk recently that Microsoft may cut back on the campaign now so as to avoid making it look like a bad joke.

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  18. superbowl....riiight by esoteric0 · · Score: 1

    like i'm going to waste 4 hours sitting around watching a bunch of overpaid, overweight, sweaty smelly guys run up and down a field after a dead pig.

    1. Re:superbowl....riiight by Micah · · Score: 1

      That's exactly what I thought. I only "watched" it because my church young adult group had a party over it. The ads beat the tar out of the game.

    2. Re:superbowl....riiight by Nicolas+MONNET · · Score: 1

      That's exactly what I thought. I only "watched" it because my church young adult group had a party over it. The ads beat the tar out of the game.

      There's two things I hate above everything else. Football, and religion. War, torture, crime ... well even intelligent people get angry at times.


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    3. Re:superbowl....riiight by mgblst · · Score: 1

      All the adds are crap anyway... Same rubbish as always

      They just tell you that they are good so that you watch them...Well not you, but the other fools.

    4. Re:superbowl....riiight by bytor4232 · · Score: 1

      Thank-you.

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    5. Re:superbowl....riiight by Nicolas+MONNET · · Score: 1

      Hey fucknut, did he preach or try to convert you? No. So sit the fuck down and shut your cock-sucking piehole. The man said he helps youth, which is far more than your selfish ass has ever contributed to society.

      Ewwwwwww .. You said 'fuck'. I'm shocked.


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  19. Make that 2 cameos by Ratteau · · Score: 5


    the pets.com puppet had a killer cameo

    Yeah, he looked great on Brittney Spears' arm during the halftime show.

  20. what's with random punctuation? by zyqqh · · Score: 2

    CueCat's colons were lame. accenture's ">" in the middle of nowhere is LAME. Is ASCII the newest trend du jour with marketroids or what? Maybe in a few years we'll start seeing IPOs with names in pure l33t5p34|
    Oh wait. mind[avg_marketroid]==mind[avg_script_kiddie]. Mystery solved.

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    1. Re:what's with random punctuation? by BarefootClown · · Score: 4

      It's not ASCII, it's an accent. Musical notation uses a ">" character to indicate that a note should be accented (3/4 value and one dynamic level louder, give or take). An interesting use of symbols, but a poor choice if people don't get it.

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    2. Re:what's with random punctuation? by Primer+55 · · Score: 1

      Look at Borland -- some consultancy decided they should change their name to Inprise, and the name confusion never fully sorted itself out before they gave up on it. The sci/tech offspring of larger companies have lost respectable names and become things like Agilent, Lucent, and Imation. WHY?

      This is Andersen Consulting finally getting what they deserve. Forget about the name people know and care about -- just put some buzzwords in a blender and create a new, vague, futuristic sounding name.

      It's getting bad, too. Within a year after moving to Minneapolis, I got all my bills from companies with completely different names. US West is now Qwest, NSP is now Xcel energy, Paragon Cable is now Time Warner Cable, and Norwest Bank is now Wells Fargo. God forbid I also have Aerial^H^H^H^H^H^HVerizon wireless, too. My company also changed its name, but that was because it only made sense.

      Speaking of getting what's deserved, the Giants are getting theirs today. It should have been the Vikings getting their asses kicked by Baltimore, not the Giants. Then again, I'm partial.

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    3. Re:what's with random punctuation? by Catch22RG · · Score: 2

      Ever looked at sheet music before? Accented notes (notes played louder than others) are marked with a ">" above them.

    4. Re:what's with random punctuation? by Tower · · Score: 2

      I was discussing the Accenture name change with the others at my superbowl party today (I'm a Giants fan in Rochester, MN... it will be very lonely tomorrow) - we can't figure out why a company who only has mindshare through their name would change the only thing they have going for them... of course, if they are anywhere near as bad as I've heard (and could guess from the quality people from my school that they hired "Hey, you barely graduated - want a job?") maybe the name change is a good idea...

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    5. Re:what's with random punctuation? by jslag · · Score: 1
      we can't figure out why a company who only has mindshare through their name would change the only thing they have going for them


      Easy. Aurthur Anderson was going to sue them into the stone age if they didn't change.

    6. Re:what's with random punctuation? by Fishstick · · Score: 2

      yeah, seems to be the trend with renaming your company lately...

      telcordia (bellcore)
      lucent (bell labs)
      accenture (andersen?)
      verizon (GTE + ameritech?)
      cingular (forget which companies this used to be)

      ...and my least favorite

      convergys (my company, used to be Cincinnati Bell)

      WTF is with these dopey names?

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    7. Re:what's with random punctuation? by odin53 · · Score: 1

      This is Andersen Consulting finally getting what they deserve.

      Andersen Consulting *had* to change their name. It was part of the deal with Andersen (the accounting company) when they decided to part ways for good (Andersen Consulting and Andersen had been at each other's throats for years). Now the choice of "Accenture" may not have been the best, but they couldn't use "Andersen Consulting" anymore...

    8. Re:what's with random punctuation? by dbremner · · Score: 1

      It wasn't a voluntary name change. There was a lawsuit. Anderson Consulting took Arthur Anderson Co. to court and lost(they had both split off from the original Anderson Consulting). As part of the judge's ruling, they lost their right to the Anderson name.

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    9. Re:what's with random punctuation? by Azog · · Score: 2

      But the accent was over the t! That doesn't make sense at all!

      Torrey Hoffman (Azog)

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    10. Re:what's with random punctuation? by hexx · · Score: 1

      Cingular was Cellular One
      Verizon was GTE and Bell Atlantic
      if i remember correctly...

    11. Re:what's with random punctuation? by Darkstorm · · Score: 1

      verizon was bell atlantic. I know I live in thier area and the phone bill now has "verison" planted on it.

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    12. Re:what's with random punctuation? by Darkstorm · · Score: 1

      Well, if I remember correctly Borland was bought by or merged with some company who had the corba technology they wanted (and some other enterprise technologies) and for some silly reason they decided that inprise was a good name. But every version of delphi I got still had borland in much bigger letters than inprise. And I think since they probably got more people who typed in www.borland.com than inprise they must have figured out borland is a well known name for develpment software. They got smart and are going back to what has worked over the years.

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    13. Re:what's with random punctuation? by Nailer · · Score: 2

      I was discussing the Accenture name change with the others at my superbowl party today (I'm a Giants fan in Rochester, MN... it will be very lonely tomorrow) - we can't figure out why a company who only has mindshare through their name would change the only thing they have going for them...

      The name change occured because Andersen Consulting is no longer associated with Aurthur Andersen or Andersen Corporation, who now have their own consulting arm, Arthur Andersen Consulting, as of around a year ago. In fact, I do believe there was some degree of legal action between the two former family members over the split.

    14. Re:what's with random punctuation? by RobNich · · Score: 1

      Convergys is a marketing survey, DirecTV call center, and billing(/collections?) company. They were spun off and needed a new name.

      I worked there as a temp when it was still Cincinnati Bell and owned stock in Cincinnati Bell when it was spun off (and now own stock in both).

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    15. Re:what's with random punctuation? by jefft · · Score: 1

      What's even worse, when I hear the name, I hear "ack censure". Do they really want their company associated with official disapproval?

    16. Re:what's with random punctuation? by Fishstick · · Score: 2

      >Cingular was Cellular One

      That may be true for the area you live in, but Cellular One was a licensed brand name that many companies used (here in Chicago it was once Rogers/Cantel which sold to SBC - McCaw used to go by C1 in many markets before AT&T bought them)

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    17. Re:what's with random punctuation? by Fishstick · · Score: 2

      Verizon is more than just one company. I beleive it is a consortium of wireless spin-offs, which probably does include the NYNEX/BAMS wireless operations. Here in Chicago, Ameritech's wireless was spun off because SBC bought up Ameritech and already owned one other wireless license. If memory serves, GTE bought it and and their wireless ops are now part of Verizon (the Ameritech wireless store down the street from me got a new sign a few months ago. Still the same crap service, I'm told).

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    18. Re:what's with random punctuation? by Fishstick · · Score: 2

      You are talking about Matrixx. Cincinnati Bell had CBIS (cin bell info sys) and Matrixx which were split off to form Convergys. The Cincinnati Bell Telephone merged with IXC to become Broadwing.

      Convergys does still run the old direct marketing and customer care operations along with a big chunk of AT&T that it bought. That part of the company is the CMG (customer management group, I believe) and the information systems part is now IMG (information management group) which runs a wireless billing outsourcing service bureau.

      I happen to work in the Chicago office. Did you work in Florida or (probably) Utah?

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    19. Re:what's with random punctuation? by Darkstorm · · Score: 1

      Hmm, possibly, but I do know that bell atlantic...the big slow dumb phone co that provides local telephone service now goes by verizon. There wireless went that way also. I guess they just wanted to get the "bell" out of their name

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    20. Re:what's with random punctuation? by Mignon · · Score: 2

      Yeah, these companies are getting like all those '80's metal bands that had random umlauts all over the place.

    21. Re:what's with random punctuation? by RasputinAXP · · Score: 1

      Don't forget that Verizon's name is made up of "Veritas" and "Horizon." Being that Veritas means "truth" in Latin, the marketroids didn't pay much attention to what that would've meant, as I see it as "the truth is over the horizon, so you'll never be near it when you deal with us." At least when you think about it, that is.
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    22. Re:what's with random punctuation? by shyster · · Score: 1
      I used to work in FL for Convergys. AFAIK, there was the CMG group (which you mentioned) which billing ops for AT&T, Sprint (I think SprintPCS, but I could be wrong about that) and a handful of others.

      Then, there was the IMG group which did outsourced tech support for various computer manafacturers and ISP's. Dell and Gateway were the 2 biggest accounts, I think. But they were working on landing NEC and Hewlett-Packard when I left. Don't know who the ISP's were, however.

    23. Re:what's with random punctuation? by mstra · · Score: 1

      "Now the choice of "Accenture" may not have been the best"

      It always makes me think of a car model...

      "New, from Oldsmobile...Accenture!"

      Of course...I heard from some Anderdrones that one of the "runner up" names was "MindRocket."

      *sigh*

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    24. Re:what's with random punctuation? by Fishstick · · Score: 2

      >Then, there was the IMG group which did outsourced tech support for various computer manafacturers and ISP's

      no, not really. the IMG is the part that runs billing systems like Atlys, Catalys, ICOMS, Cellware, etc. I should know because I work for that division, (we do the billing for AT&T wireless).

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    25. Re:what's with random punctuation? by carlos_benj · · Score: 1
      Ever looked at sheet music before? Accented notes (notes played louder than others) are marked with a ">" above them.

      I thought the accent was for an accentuated attack.

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  21. Poor Pets.com by KingAdrock · · Score: 1

    That E*Trade commercial really took a shot at pets.com! Not that it wasn't funny, but OUCH! Overall, the commercials have been OK. I think everyone expects way too much in recent years.

  22. The perfect super bowl Ad... by km790816 · · Score: 1

    Monkey...on a horse...saying Wasssup!

    1. Re:The perfect super bowl Ad... by Gnight · · Score: 1

      Actually, a crying monkey in a VW trading stocks and talking on a cellphone while sipping on a cold pepsi would be a little closer.

      Either that or Bob Dole doing the "WASSSSUPPP?!?" with a cold Bud in his hand.

      -Gnight

  23. Superbowl? What superbowl? by zCyl · · Score: 3

    The commercials must be pretty boring if we're all here pushing reload on Slashdot. :)

  24. Re:Snort by Brolly · · Score: 1

    uh...some of the commercials are funny. i think youre taking this a BIT too seriously...

  25. Insightful?? by Ratteau · · Score: 1

    Damn, I wish I hadnt posted so I could mod this one down as flamebait.

  26. in retrospect.... by Brolly · · Score: 1

    i've always found the commercials of the current year to be "sub-par," or something along those lines. i think things just seem better when you think back to them, rather than when you are actually viewing them.

  27. Irresponsible journalism. by Urban+Existentialist · · Score: 4
    I think it is disgraceful that Hemos is trying to judge the best commercial before the superbowl is even over. Other advertisements will be discouraged from showing up due to the media having prematurely made up the American mind, especially before the repeats on the West Coast are fully over.

    This is exactly like how the News Agencies called the result of the election before it was truly over. We require, in a proper democracy, that our influential media hold its tongue and refuse to offer influential opinion before the contest is done.

    I can only hope that commercials yet to declare will not be disheartened, and will show up to stake their claim despite this knee jerk reaction.

    Shame on you Hemos.

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    1. Re:Irresponsible journalism. by mduell · · Score: 2

      especially before the repeats on the West Coast are fully over.

      Unlike some other events, the SuperBowl is broadcast live across the US, as well as to some other countries.

      Mark Duell

    2. Re:Irresponsible journalism. by whydna · · Score: 1

      Damn, that's gotta be the lowest UID i've seen around here in quite some time... >=)

      -Andy

    3. Re:Irresponsible journalism. by fluxrad · · Score: 2

      hrm....anyone else find it ironic that the superbowl was played in....

      Florida!


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    4. Re:Irresponsible journalism. by WEs666 · · Score: 1

      damn dogg! you're right.

    5. Re:Irresponsible journalism. by cancrman · · Score: 1

      not normally one to comment on moderation, but whoever moderated this as "informative" is on crack.

      "especially before the repeats on the West Coast are fully over."

      That's all I gotta say. If you don't know why I quoted the above text you don't belong on this board.

      Pete

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    6. Re:Irresponsible journalism. by Nightpaw · · Score: 1

      And his comment is currently rated as a troll. These guys get no freaking respect.

    7. Re:Irresponsible journalism. by Rew190 · · Score: 2
      Could you possibly whine anymore and take this out of context? This article isn't a piece of journalism, it's a post by a geek asking other geeks what they thought about the commercials on a superbowl. It's not an attack on the democratic world as we know it, for Christ's sakes, chill out.

      It's kind of ironic that there are those in the /. community that constantly attack the people behind it for mispelling or doing something as "harmful" as asking for an opinion, yet the only thing these people can seemingly do is whine about how Slashdot is killing the free world and wasn't what it was, etc. OK. Taco can't spell. Maybe Hemos should have considered the time zones. But if all you can do is whine about it then I'm much more worried about the community that makes up Slashdot than those who actually run it.

    8. Re:Irresponsible journalism. by MicroBerto · · Score: 1
      I suppose I have to agree with both viewpoints here.

      First off, it is a touch irresponsible that something has been reported before its finish. At the same token, this is slashdot, and does not need to be professional. In fact, I don't WANT it to be professional, I like hemos for who he is. Also, this is the Superbowl -- not a big deal.

      I know that many people made a big deal of Mozilla's Milestones being prematurely posted (twice), but the Super Bowl commercials aren't even close to the importance of that (and Mozilla M17 release wasn't of utmost importance either!)

      So just relax kids, lets have fun and stop acting like professionals. I liked some of Bud Light's commercials, by the way. This has nothing to do with the 6 Bud Lights in my fridge either (that's a story in itself).... :)

      Mike Roberto
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    9. Re:Irresponsible journalism. by Nightpaw · · Score: 1

      Might want to polish up the old sense of humor, Mark.

    10. Re:Irresponsible journalism. by PurpleBob · · Score: 1

      Great sense of humor you've got there. Go read the original comment again.
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    11. Re:Irresponsible journalism. by xantho · · Score: 1
      Could you possibly whine anymore and take this out of context?

      likewise.

    12. Re:Irresponsible journalism. by Rew190 · · Score: 1

      At the time of posting it was at a score of 5, being insightful. I didn't see any humor in it anyhow, show me where it is exactly.

    13. Re:Irresponsible journalism. by majestyk2000 · · Score: 1

      Yes, it isn't being covered very well by the 'respectable media', but the truth is that the Superbowl isn't exactly over.

      As we speak, both conferences are putting together teams of 'counters', who will pore over the field looking for dimples to indicate where other scoring opportunities might have occurred that weren't counted.

      The results are expected by March 12th.

  28. Find here the commercials by Felipe+Hoffa · · Score: 3

    If you want to look at those comercials, you can always go to adcritic.

    (I just want to be helpful, if you think I am a karma whore, mod me down).

    Fh

    1. Re:Find here the commercials by StuccoHead · · Score: 1

      Alot of good this does me adcritic doesnt support Unix

    2. Re:Find here the commercials by antdude · · Score: 2

      The server seems to be up now. But who knows for how long ;).

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    3. Re:Find here the commercials by Felipe+Hoffa · · Score: 1

      Alot of good this does me adcritic doesnt support Unix

      Then wait for OS X, it's unix (somehow) and it's apple.

      In the meantime maybe you can watch last year's spots using Real player at superbowl-ads.com

      Fh

    4. Re:Find here the commercials by MrEd · · Score: 1

      Reverse psychology, works every time...

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  29. Running with the Squirrels by jaciii · · Score: 1

    I thought EDS's running with the squirrels was a roit. Made me think of Linux.

    1. Re:Running with the Squirrels by Fishstick · · Score: 2
      Obviously a vast improvement over their previous effort, the cat herding spot. I thought that was the dumbest spot I'd ever seen.

      I caught the pamplona running with the bulls/squirrels ad about halfway through (gotta tape the 'bowl so you don't miss the commercials during potty-breaks) and thought it looked funny. Then I realized it was the sequel to the cattle/cat drive spot and wasn't as impressed once I realized it was EDS.

      My all-time favorite still has to be the e-trade (or whatever) one last year with the guys in the garage with the monkey (we just wasted a million bucks!)

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    2. Re:Running with the Squirrels by Nightpaw · · Score: 1

      > I caught the pamplona running with the > bulls/squirrels ad about halfway through
      > (gotta tape the 'bowl so you don't miss the
      > commercials during potty-breaks) and thought
      > it looked funny.

      No, you have to TiVo the 'bowl.

    3. Re:Running with the Squirrels by the+Epopt · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the ad became a lot worse once you realized who did it. The same ad would have been a lot better with a different logo at the end, wouldn't it?

      And it's extra-bad that both the cat-herding ad and the running-with-the-squirrels ad are rated #1 by the viewers. Anything that anyone likes can't be any good.
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    4. Re:Running with the Squirrels by cvas · · Score: 1

      Maybe I missed something, but what is with the animosity towards EDS?

    5. Re:Running with the Squirrels by cvas · · Score: 1

      Maybe I missed something, but what is wrong with EDS?

    6. Re:Running with the Squirrels by Fishstick · · Score: 2

      >Anything that anyone likes can't be any good.

      Right. Prime example - AOL :-P

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  30. Pepsi ads by Brian+See · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised no one has commented on the first Pepsi ad. The Kasparov one was funny, but the one with Bob Dole spoofing his role as Viagra spokesman was priceless. (Oops, that was the Mastercard spot...)

    Seriously, is that the new Pepsi schtick? Celebrities mocking themselves....At least it's better than the curly-haired kid.

    1. Re:Pepsi ads by Mojojojo+Monkey+Inc. · · Score: 1

      I couldn't stand any of the pepsi ads... at least they didn't have the evil little girl on anymore, I would have stabbed myself in the eye after watching that for the millionth time.

    2. Re:Pepsi ads by larryj · · Score: 1

      I agree. I thought the Pepsi ads were kind of lame. The Bob Dole was OK, but you could see the Karsparov one coming a mile away. They're just not that funny (IMHO) and they're too 'easy'. And what's with 'the joy of cola'? It's a soft drink. Anything's better than that annoying little girl though.

      Along the same lines, someone tell Cingular that it's just wireless service for cryin' out loud. The disabled artist who expresses himself was just a bit much.

      I also think the Budweiser 'wasssup' commercials have run their course. Let it die.

      The running of the squirrels was my favorite.

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  31. Re:Replacement for AdCritic for poor Canadian by mr100percent · · Score: 1

    So what do you want better? Hi-quality Quicktime, streaming, butt-ugly realplayer, or craptastic WiMP? Quicktime is great.

  32. pika by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 1

    the Kasparov ad was hella friggin cool. But it would have killed you to wait until the game was over to post?
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    1. Re:pika by sporty · · Score: 1

      How about "I'm sorry". The key word to save any relationship, any friendship and to prevent the schedule of nookie :)

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  33. Bah. by BilldaCat · · Score: 2

    Is anyone else but me annoyed by the elitist 'I'm too good for the Super Bowl' air around here? :|

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    1. Re:Bah. by Stiletto · · Score: 1


      Hmm.. Maybe because despite what TV viewing statistics tell us, not all of us suffer from Drooling Mass-ism.

    2. Re:Bah. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You mean, like slashdot posting a story about Superbowl ads?

    3. Re:Bah. by SubtleNuance · · Score: 1

      Let me make it clear to you, there will be no 'air' about it: *I* am too good for the Superbowl

      The 'super bowl' is a rital of group hysteria, with no value and base exicution. It is 'MentalMcNuggets for the Masses'(TM) at its worst. The only thing worse than the football is professional wrestling, and from what Ive read the WWF will be a football league next year...

      No-mind announcers, glitzy commercialism and the rest makes me laugh at 150 Million Americans every year.

    4. Re:Bah. by SubtleNuance · · Score: 1

      Exicution is execution - damn. Its hard to be pompous when you don't check your spelling.

    5. Re:Bah. by BilldaCat · · Score: 2

      Well, give me your MentalMcNugget then, because I am apparently one of the few 'geeks' that enjoy sporting events. There seems to be this attitude that to properly fit in, you are not allowed to like sports of any sort, that all jocks are evil (I play hockey, does that make me a jock?), etc., and that's just what I found a little annoying and wanted to get off my chest. Ohwell.

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    6. Re:Bah. by Tower · · Score: 2

      >the WWF will be a football league next year...

      Ah, you must mean the XFL, starting in a week or two. Yeah, not the pinnacle of human achievement.
      >The 'super bowl' is a rital of group hysteria, with no value and base exicution (sic)

      As for myself, I watch the superbowl every year because I am a football fan. I ignore the pre-game hysteria, switch channels at halftime, and don't really care all that much about the commercials. I am interested in seeing a number of highly skilled players in a game that I myself played for a number of years. If you watch it for the game, it is great (except when your team loses 31-7). The announcers and all the rest are rather easy to tune out, and heck, sometimes a little mind-numbing time is the best relaxation a brain can have.

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    7. Re:Bah. by Engelbot · · Score: 1

      Keep in mind that Slashdot is a pretty geek-heavy community, and many of us had a lousy time in high school and college courtesy of the people who are now playing football. This can make for extended bitterness. Q.v. Beer and Circus .

    8. Re:Bah. by Derek+S · · Score: 1

      Rugby's cool, but have you seen the sorts of injuries that American football produces? All that padding just encourages players to throw their huge bodies around harder. In sports without helmets, participants tend to have the common sense to not use their heads as battering rams.

    9. Re:Bah. by bytor4232 · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty annoyed, I'll tell ya that. There is nothing wrong with football. If you don't like the subject, don't read the comments. It would be like me slamming the Anime articles. I just dont read the damn things!

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    10. Re:Bah. by FreeMath · · Score: 1

      Clairification: The game itself is okay, but the way it is portrayed in America is sick. I would like to know howmany people actually watched for the game...

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  34. My $0.02 by cecil36 · · Score: 1

    I didn't get a chance to watch the entire Super Bowl, because I was busy doing academic research. However, I did join my friends in the residence hall for about half an hour of the game, leaving shortly after the Raisins scored the first TD (fsck you, Modell!). The one commercial I did enjoy was the Bud Light commercial with the couple seated together on the couch. I'll take that as a lesson to not get my groove thing going while holding one or more bottles of carbonated beverages. I'm sure that can kill a relationship in a nanosecond (unless she's EXTREMELY forgiving).

  35. What would you do? by Emperor+Cezar · · Score: 1

    I was thinking a couple months ago. What would I do if I had as much money as Billy Gates.
    Then the answer came to me. I would wait until the superbowl and during the half-time show I would walk out into the middle of the field.
    Thier would be thousand dollar bill dropping like rain. The cammera would zoom close to my face and I would say "Because I can" and that would be it.

    Also, what did everyone think of the Britany Spears, Nsync, and Nelly singing an AeroSmith song?

    Just my 3.14 cents.

    1. Re:What would you do? by warped6 · · Score: 1

      Aerosmith rocks! Who were those teenyboppers? And why were they allowed on stage?

    2. Re:What would you do? by Zico · · Score: 2

      Hey, I love football and all, and I wouldn't complain about getting showered with 1000 dollar bills, but I think Bill Gates took the high road this week when he donated $100 million to AIDS research.

      On a related note, didn't one or more of the Slashdot guys say that they'd be donating some of the money they made on the VA Linux IPO? Did anything ever come of that? (Just curious, I really have no idea one way or the other.)

      Cheers,

  36. American commercials are very bad by MSBob · · Score: 1
    I haven't seen the commercials you mentioned but I expect them to be pretty lame. As someone who recently moved from the UK to Canada I generally feel that TV in general and commercials in particular are of extremly low quality here. They are generally very noisy (to the point that I hit "mute" every time they come on) and in your face. British ones at least try to amuse and some are pretty good at that. There are exceptions however, one of the best ads I've seen so far is the Tivo golf commercial. It's quite funny actually unlike those other "funny" US commercials where the punchline is so blatantly obvious that only retards could laugh at them.

    I'm pretty grumpy 'cause i don't have good telly anymore. I'd trade my 60 US cable channels for the five I had back in the UK. I thought the license was a rip off. Now I think it's a bargain.

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    1. Re:American commercials are very bad by Mojojojo+Monkey+Inc. · · Score: 1

      "Ordinary" commercials usually annoy people here, but since most companies that air commercials during the superbowl try to make them funny, or at least interesting, (they spend so much fuckin money on em, they better make em good!) some people enjoy watching the commercials as much as the game.

      Suffice to say, this years crop of commercials was *definately* not as memorable as last years, or the year before that. The "wassup" commercial became a sudden cultural phenomenon, and the dot-com commercials were fairly good too (40% of the commercials last year were by dot-com companies.) A lot of the dot-com commercials last year were good, mostly because the companies weren't trying to advertise a product, but just get their name recognized.

      Half of this year's commercials were advertisements for TV shows on CBS (the network hosting the game) and most of the rest were fairly boring... 4 or 5 memorable ones maybe, the rest I really didn't even like.

    2. Re:American commercials are very bad by Amanset · · Score: 1

      Talking of Ads, does anyone know where I can find an MPEG of the Blackcurrant Tango "You're an exchange student, aren't you Sebastian" ad from a coupel of years ago (the on ethat finished on the white cliffs of Dover with the harriers and the boxing ring)? That has to be, hands down, my favourite ad ever and I can't find it for the life of me.

  37. Re:"What do you folks think?"..... by Sxerks · · Score: 1

    Sports and commercials are a waste of time. Instead of wasting my time watching it I'm writing assembly code for my HC12, oh what fun!

  38. superbowl.adcritic.com by jesser · · Score: 5

    If only superbowl.adcritic.com weren't superbowled... oh wait, posting this isn't going to help, is it?

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    1. Re:superbowl.adcritic.com by antdude · · Score: 2

      Don't forget to vote on the commercials :).

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    2. Re:superbowl.adcritic.com by cyberdonny · · Score: 1

      They only have quicktime and Windows media. Why no real media?

    3. Re:superbowl.adcritic.com by theCoder · · Score: 1

      Because real media sucks? (maybe it's just the player)

      The real question is why no MPEG?

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    4. Re:superbowl.adcritic.com by Sabalon · · Score: 1

      cause real is crap - christ, it gives network congesstion on local hard drive files

  39. Super Bowl - It Super SUCKED!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4

    I think I speak for everyone here when I say the Super Bowl super sucked. Unless youre a retard, in that case, you speak for yourself.

    Pick your favorite mocking quote:

    "This disturbing commercial was brought to you by...Pepsi!"

    "Oh look! Its Sting, and his little portable Pakistani friend!"

    "Welcome to Super Bowl 35! Here's Sting Singing A Song About A Prostitute!"

    "Our fans might not like that we're on stage with a band like N'Sync...But..its like, we do that all the time."

    "Ok, everybody! Lets Punt!"

    "Let's kick! And kick some more!! We like kicking!"

    "And now, for the useless 3D instant replay."

    "New York - We Suck Balls."

    "Accenture -- Even We Don't Know What We Make."

    "I read PROPAGANDA

    1. Re:Super Bowl - It Super SUCKED!! by Mojojojo+Monkey+Inc. · · Score: 1

      haha I pointed out to someone that the duet-singer guy looked like Sandler, and he agreed with me too... Although Sandler *did* make an appearance right before the halftime show.

    2. Re:Super Bowl - It Super SUCKED!! by MJN222 · · Score: 1

      Well, the game overall wasn't too exciting. There were some exciting plays though. I'd also have to say that the 3D instant replay wasn't useless. When Jamal Lewis rushed to the corner for a touchdown and the Giants challenged the call, the best view was courtesy of the "useless" 3D instant replay. On a side note, everyone I was watching the game with and I thought that the 3D replay was pretty damn cool. Since we go to CMU, where the technology was developed, we are a bit partial, but I still say it was pretty damn cool.

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    3. Re:Super Bowl - It Super SUCKED!! by RoninM · · Score: 1
      ... the best view was courtesy of the "useless" 3D instant replay.

      Too bad the referees still got it wrong. He clearly didn't have possession of the ball when it broke the plane of the end zone. Note how it shifted between his hands as he basically threw the ball into the end-zone. Admittedly, the ball stayed in bounds and was recovered by the Ravens (not for a touchdown, since you can't purposefully fumble the ball forward for a gain), so it should have been Ravens ball about 4 inches out from the end-zone... So it was probably a non-issue. But there was a great opportunity there: play it from the side and stop it just where the ball breaks the plane, turn the camera back to look straight at him, and you can see the separation between the ball and his hand. I saw it real-time, while EyeVision was turning around the play, and later several times from tape playback.

      They should've, BTW, shown some of those hard hits on EyeVision...

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    4. Re:Super Bowl - It Super SUCKED!! by Kristopher+Johnson · · Score: 1
      My favorite quotes were from the players while they were introduced. I think they were something like

      "Let's f***ing rock!"

      and

      "Let's beat those mother f***ers!"

      I'm surprised CBS doesn't have a few seconds of delay that would allow them to bleep this out.

    5. Re:Super Bowl - It Super SUCKED!! by frantzdb · · Score: 2
      Perhaps it's just a nerd thing, but here at Harvey Mudd the 3D effects got more audience response than most of the rest of the game. It's very cool technology and instant replays are a great place to debut it.

      BTW: The people making it have a web page which I havn't seen linked to: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/virtualized-reality/main.htm l

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    6. Re:Super Bowl - It Super SUCKED!! by Nicolas+MONNET · · Score: 1
      You meant, "let's fucking rock" and "let's beat those mother fuckers"? What's so wrong with saying "fuck"? Are you advocating censorship?

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    7. Re:Super Bowl - It Super SUCKED!! by cybercuzco · · Score: 1
      Fuck yeah Im fucking advocating fucking censorship. If any fuck on this fucking planet could just up and say fuck any fucking time he pleased it would be fucking chaos. Fuck man, think of the children. They would be so fucking corrupted its not even fucking funny. I for one agree that CBS fucked up big time when they didnt bleep out fuck.

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    8. Re:Super Bowl - It Super SUCKED!! by bytor4232 · · Score: 1

      I actually liked it, but I am into defence. Most people are not, they like to see scoring. Everyone at the party I was at hated it, because they wanted to see lots of TD's. It wasn't as exciting as say UofM's Citris Bowl, but hey, NFL can't hold a candle to college ball.

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    9. Re:Super Bowl - It Super SUCKED!! by portnoy · · Score: 1
      "Accenture -- Even We Don't Know What We Make."
      That's because they don't make anything. They used to be Anderson Consulting, but a month ago lost their name in a legal battle with Arthur Anderson after the firm's consulting arm decided to strike off on its own.

      Actually, I think their commercials were exactly what they wanted -- they need to boost their name recognition, so they flooded the SB with incomprehensible commercials where the only thing you remember is the name `accenture'.

    10. Re:Super Bowl - It Super SUCKED!! by Mr.+Piccolo · · Score: 1

      Dude, the ball was in his hand when it broke the plane. If that's not posession, I don't know what is.

      Not that it mattered...

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  40. Pepsi Ad? by Eight+Star · · Score: 1

    Hey Hemos, you can't put a pepsi link here now, it's coke day.



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  41. For those that don't live there ... by mxs · · Score: 1

    ... the wondrous internet brings us all the ads from the superbowl, delivered directly into our homes

  42. Cingular by Eli · · Score: 1

    I still don't understand what "self expression" has anything to do using a mobile phone...

    1. Re:cingular by saintlupus · · Score: 1

      I hadn't even heard of Cingular since like last week, where did they come from?

      they used to be cellular one.

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    2. Re:cingular by acoopersmith · · Score: 1

      Cingular has only been around for a couple of weeks - it was formed by the merger of the cellular divisions of BellSouth & SBC (Southwestern Bell/Pacific Bell). Full details are on their web site of course.

    3. Re:cingular by fork442 · · Score: 1

      i was waiting to see an Epilepsy Foundation logo or something. it really pisses me off that cingular uses heart touching stuff like that to sell cellular phone bullshit.

    4. Re:Cingular by netmeister · · Score: 1

      This is a commonplace thing with ads now. They can't just sell product because nobody would buy. Now they have to sell you a lifestyle adjunct...anybody else noticed the philosophical tripe that is advertising today?

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    5. Re:cingular by yumitori · · Score: 1

      Based on his speech patterns and such, I suspect the gentleman in the Cingular ad has muscular dystrophy, like an acquaintance of mine. It's quite unfortunate that too many people immediately label those with physical limitations 'retarded gimps'. Brilliant individuals like Stephen Hawking have shown that intelligence is not restricted to those who are without wasting diseases (indeed, most all of us are 'retarded' compared to him), and the featured artist in the ad proves that talent may also be found in those who are not whole of body. Perhaps there was more to be gained from the ad than a simple plug for a phone company, but if so, there are those who seem to have missed the message.

    6. Re:Cingular by Metrol · · Score: 2

      Now they have to sell you a lifestyle adjunct... anybody else noticed the philosophical tripe that is advertising today?

      Nope. Going now on the second year of my forgetting to pay my cable bill on time. Haven't had any kind of broadcast tv into the house since then. This xmas I got an MP3 car stereo, so now I don't even listen to the radio very often. My only outlet to popular media is through the Internet, where I can damn well decide how to block the non-stop advertisements.

      What's really amazing is how little you actually miss by not watching TV all the time. Oh sure, I can't talk about a game involving 2 teams I have no emotional or geographic connection to, but somehow I still get by.

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    7. Re:cingular by carpoon · · Score: 1

      Actually, the guy in the cingular ad has cerebral palsy, and is an incredibly gifted painter. He was also the subject of the short documentary that won the oscar last year. And he is a good friend of mine.

    8. Re:cingular by puck71 · · Score: 1

      Well, first off, I believe he calls himself a gimp in the commercial, and secondly I'm talking about retarded in the a) comparitive sense and b) physical sense, not the mental sense, which I suppose is the more common use of the word. Anyway, I realize he's obviously very gifted, but I still found it disappointing when he was seemingly exploited for commercial profit, but reading one of the other replies apparently he's happy with the arrangment too, so I guess it's all good.

  43. Budweiser, Pepsi by ca1v1n · · Score: 2

    Ok, Budweiser is parodying their own commercials. Pepsi is parodying Viagra commercials. This is pathetic. Sure, some of them are a little amusing, but amusing is all over the place. Some are even hilarious, but come on. How about product information? Oh, wait, people don't really care about that, do they?

    1. Re:Budweiser, Pepsi by CaseyB · · Score: 2

      Re:Budweiser, Pepsi

      That subject is proof positive that the advertisers have accomplished exactly what they were trying to do.

    2. Re:Budweiser, Pepsi by SubtleNuance · · Score: 2

      That subject is proof positive that the advertisers have accomplished exactly what they were trying to do

      Not exactly - being aware of mass market consumer-pods like Budweiser and Pepsi ARE NOT going to make me (and maybe the poster) buy these things... in fact I will never buy these things because I believe in economically sound industry that dosnt rely on brainwashing the unwashed masses in order to survive. I actually like to know something about the item i intend to buy - and seeing 30 seconds of dancing frogs on Television is only going to make me assume that their product is actually the commercial (the marketing 'come-on') and NOT lager or cola.

      And therefore will suck shit because it is made to appeal to ~200Million mindless yankees who actually watch the superbowl to get their jollies from 30 second adverts...

    3. Re:Budweiser, Pepsi by Tower · · Score: 2

      I lost all respect for Bob Dole a long time ago, but some of this stuff is really ridiculous...
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    4. Re:Budweiser, Pepsi by DanTilkin · · Score: 1

      I take it you're looking for Taste-o-vision(tm), then? Just about all of their potential customers have tried the product. There's not much more they can do than keep the name fresh in people's minds. When you think of cola, they want you to think "Pepsi".

  44. The game was just awful by Fervent · · Score: 2
    I'm, of course, a Giants fan (NY area -- I normally root for the Jets) but this game was just awful. The Giants didn't even bother to play. (That, combined with the fact that the Ravens made their offense look like a joke).

    Hell, my little brother just switched over to the movie "Little Giants" on NBC. This isn't going to bode well for Survivor, either, with their pilot going on tonight. I could care less about the show (I was one of the few and the proud that didn't watch any of it last season), but if I were CBS I'd be shitting in my pants right now. Most people have probably switched channels.

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    1. Re:The game was just awful by Primer+55 · · Score: 1
      The Giants offense is a joke. It's just too bad that the Vikings' defense is, too.

      The Vikes will be around next year, just like every other season. We'll get you next time, if you're even worth it next season.
      /end Vikings posturing

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  45. Running of the squierrels by Sabalon · · Score: 2

    That's been my fave so far. Made me laugh and it had a good point.

    I liked the silicon ad...oh wait, that was Ms. Spears at half time. :) *drool*

  46. American Legacy Foundation... by Misch · · Score: 2

    Well, the most poignant one was the American Legacy Foundation's assault on the Philip Morris positive smear campaign. I think that's the one that's going to stand out in people's minds... I wish they'd show that one a little bit more throughout the year.

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    1. Re:American Legacy Foundation... by damiangerous · · Score: 2

      Poignant? I'd be embarassed to be that old guy. "The tobacco companies say everything has changed. Everything but their deadly and addictive product." So DON'T SMOKE it! Seriously, is there anyone who started smoking in the past 10, or even 20 years, who is ignorant of the health risks? Is it SO hard to quit that nearly anyone older who wanted to couldn't have done so? No. It's the ultimate example of today's prevalent victim mentality. "I'm not responsible for my health problem, those evil tobacco companies made me smoke!" The tobacco company offered a product YOU chose to buy. No one made you smoke, and it's no one's fault but your own if you die of smoking related illnesses.

    2. Re:American Legacy Foundation... by Mojojojo+Monkey+Inc. · · Score: 1

      What would you do if you found out 50 years from now that beer or Jolt cola had byproducts in them that made you addicted to them, and also destroyed your health... hmm well Mt. Dew is rumored to shrink your nuts, and caffine is fairly addictive, that's proven at least.

      Cigarettes didn't come with warnings on them until fairly recently, compared with the amount of time that people have been smoking them... and since the tobacco companies have been tailoring their products to get people as addicted as possible, something needed to be done. People dying from emphasymia (sp?) or lung cancer now most likely didn't know 50 years ago that smokin cigarettes would do this to em.

      Cigarettes all come with warnings now, so its fairly obvious, but how many other products are ALLOWED to be sold that kill that high a percentage of the people who use em?

      I really don't think the shock-value that these ad campaigns utilize is really necessary... anyone who starts smoking now pretty much realizes you can get addicted to em & that they're not good for you. But if the cigarette corporations went under I wouldn't feel sorry for em at all.

    3. Re:American Legacy Foundation... by Misch · · Score: 1

      If we find out that a product is dangerous in 50 years, then, "oh well, that's life." But if you've lied to me for 50 years because you've known it all along, and you perjure yourself in front of Congress in saying your product is not addictive, when your companys' records say otherwise, and I am stuck paying for the costs of your product's aftereffects, then you owe me a hell of a lot!

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    4. Re:American Legacy Foundation... by linuxpimp · · Score: 1

      I agree; I thought the voicebox guy was a vivid image that might prevent people from smoking, and I can imagine that his generation didn't know smoking caused cancer. But the second ad with the 46 year old woman's husband was stupid. Assuming she died recently, this means she started smoking in the 1970s, well within the era of Surgeon General warnings, and a few years before the antismoking groups really got started. She knew it caused cancer, but smoked anyway and died, and now we're supposed to be mad at the tobacco companies? I feel sorry for her family, but where is the personal responsibility.

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    5. Re:American Legacy Foundation... by Mojojojo+Monkey+Inc. · · Score: 1

      cars can be used in a safe way, they have a useful function. cigarettes are not useful.

  47. More powerful than the Slashdot Effect... by localroger · · Score: 2

    ...they have been SuperBowled.

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  48. Does anybody remember by dervish121 · · Score: 1

    When Aerosmith was actually a cool rock band? I was never a big fan, but Jesus, dancing with some fucking teen band and Britany "one set of implants away from being a hairdresser or a cashier" Spheres... umm Spears.

  49. Where Are The "MATRIX" Replays?! by BRock97 · · Score: 4

    Reading in the local paper, the big draw of this super bowl were, as the paper put it, Matrix like replays. After having watching 3 quarters, I must say that it is a big let down. I guess a brief look at the technology is waranted:

    They have setup thirty-some cameras around the stadium that allow a continuous feed of imagery to computer located in the bowels of the programming center. This is all done via fiber, and is supposed to create that cool camera panning effect where the camera stops, swings around, and you are behind the play.

    That is a simple overview, but it gets the idea across. My take is that it is a little early to be seeing this. First off, only a select few plays even need this type of replay feature, and I believe the viewer only saw it two times before the half-time show. When it was used, it was jerky, and very, VERY pixelated. I don't see why they didn't just switch camera angles. This is specially true after hearing how much they spent to do something they hardly do. Maybe in a few years, computers can do interpolation, make it smoother, all that stuff, but for right now, leave it out of the game.

    As for best commercial, I would have to vote for the new "Wassup" with the Wall Street guys. Too much fun!

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    1. Re:Where Are The "MATRIX" Replays?! by Rahga · · Score: 4

      Quite simply, I don't think the technology was implemented correctly in an unsuitable stadium.

      I don't believe that the control of the cameras have worked right. The two methods that would handle it the best would be to implant a tracking device into the football, the same way they do for FOX puck trak and the 10-yard-line. The other is to track the game directly from above, but you lack that in an open air stadium.

      I couldn't quite figure out how they were directing the cameras in this game, but it wasn't smooth.

      The other truth is that 30 cameras simply isn't enough. 104 would be good for a smooth 4 second 360 degree spin. When you rotate 180 around a play in a half oval on 15 cameras in one or two seconds, of course its going to look sucky. :)

    2. Re:Where Are The "MATRIX" Replays?! by __aaahtg7394 · · Score: 1

      There were a few cases where it came out _very_ nice. overall it did suck, though. I think the source of the "problem" is the use of digital video. like it or not, digital video sucks, always has sucked, and will continue to suck for awhile. This is why i'm curious how CNN's supposed switch to field editing will work out.

      Anyway, my suggestion is to make a hemisphere over the field of sorts, so instead of switching camera angles, you simply "camera hop" to the new angle, much much smoother than just the jump. And not use digital cameras =)

    3. Re:Where Are The "MATRIX" Replays?! by dhovis · · Score: 1
      In CBS's defense, it is a new technology. They started developing it two years ago as a showcase technology specifically for this Superbowl.

      You could really see its potential in the one play where the Raven's running back appeared to throw the football across the goal line. They were able to rotate around him and see both when he dropped the ball and whether he was across the goal line at the time. Doubling or tripling the number of cameras next year (as well as using higher quality cameras) and you'll probably see it on every replay. Heck, in a couple of years, it will probably be installed in every NFL stadium, and it will probably make instant replay much more effective.

      On the other hand, using it on Steven Tyler during the halftime show was just wrong. At least they didn't use it on Brittany Spears.
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    4. Re:Where Are The "MATRIX" Replays?! by polyiguana · · Score: 1

      Here is some <a href="http://dev.web.cs.cmu.edu:6666/testReleases<nobr>/<wbr></wbr></nobr> demo/40.html">information</a> about the technology they are using, from <a href="http://www.cmu.edu">Carnegie Mellon University</a>.

    5. Re:Where Are The "MATRIX" Replays?! by polyiguana · · Score: 1

      Here is some information about the technology they are using, from Carnegie Mellon University. (Sorry for not linking properly.)

    6. Re:Where Are The "MATRIX" Replays?! by The+Bastard · · Score: 1

      I don't think you're seeing the forest for the
      trees. While the quality wasn't the best, this also wasn't The Matrix (or, more specifically, a movie), where one had the luxury for another take, or of time for editing. This was live TV, and performing this in near-realtime. Plus, it was done for around $2 million, if I recall.

      All in all, I thought it went well for the first time. Keep in mind that you have to crawl, then you walk, then you run.
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    7. Re:Where Are The "MATRIX" Replays?! by Spyky · · Score: 2

      More camera's could have helped the "jerkiness" but also remember, that in the matrix, frames were interpolated in between. No way to do that in realtime with computers available today, even at TV resolution and not film resolution. Not in the time it takes to make an instant replay. It actually probably takes a lot of juice just to grab all of the still frames and splice them into a single several second piece. Hey, in 20 years, I bet we'll see this a lot more, and it will look a lot nicer Spyky

    8. Re:Where Are The "MATRIX" Replays?! by HoldenCaulfield · · Score: 1
      While the quality of the replays wasn't the greatest, I was pretty impressed with how well all the angles actually fit together. They used the rotation thing all over the field, both at the end zones and then center of the field. There was an earlier post on the original story that mentioned the difficulties involved here.

      Having done a bit of work with trying to get things to line up in microscopes, the optics part impresses me, where they were able to get zooms and field of views to line up. The ability to do it in realtime is pretty nifty too.

      And yes, the resolution was lower, but for a proof of concept, I'd say it went pretty well . . .

    9. Re:Where Are The "MATRIX" Replays?! by rebelcool · · Score: 1

      what i think happened is they were probably using low-resolution videocams (could they have even been vhs? The quality looked that way). Probably because they would have to have an array of cameras around the stadium..normal cameras are *extremely* expensive. Thousands and thousands of dollars. Perhaps as a trial thing they opted for the lower cost cams and things to see how well the feature went over before investing several million in an unpopular system.

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    10. Re:Where Are The "MATRIX" Replays?! by Cookie+Monster · · Score: 1

      feh, with a single sgi computer they could have done that realtime. As it was it was just simple still scene #xxxxxxx pan right from camera 87 to camere 103
      Hell prolly dosen't even need an sgi ... maybe an old amiga :P
      freaking simple stuff that wouldn't rate a b in a high school science project.
      sheesh

      I am disgusted at all the "oooo matrix film trick"
      ahs people say when they see some simple high speed film slowdows.

      On the other hand I did like the new bud "true" wassup commercial - the end was espcially stupid.
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    11. Re:Where Are The "MATRIX" Replays?! by Kristopher+Johnson · · Score: 1
      The cameras are really low-res. And they really should use some sort of morphing/tweening technology when switching from view to view to eliminate the jerkiness.

      Actually, what they really should do is paste ping-pong balls all over the players' uniforms, and get the system to digitize the positions and create a full 3D model. Then we could play Quake on the Super Bowl field and keep track of the action while fragging each other.

    12. Re:Where Are The "MATRIX" Replays?! by Maurice · · Score: 1

      If they had depth information in addition to the cameras they could digitally interpolate between frames. Would have looked much better. You're right though.

    13. Re:Where Are The "MATRIX" Replays?! by deadl0ck · · Score: 1

      The things I heard about the "Matrix like replays" where that they where going to use them sparingly as to not over endulge in the technology.

      I recall hearing this last night. Not sure of the broadcast, but I also heard it during the pregame show. I can't quote the actual broadcsts as I just upgraded to KDE 2.01 last night and I spent the better part of this morning trying to figure out why kslideshow.kss wouldn't show my Pr0n until I hex edited the binary to a /tmp dir, why does the programmer hard code a directory? Anyhow, I digress.

      Also, as this is a new technology to a *LIVE* broadcast as opposed to a recorded broadcast like the cinema. I thought the shots where used appropriatly.

      Does anyone remeber when the "Reverse CAM!" was a big thing? WOW! They will show the same shot but on the other side of the field! Wow! And SloMo was a big hype at one time I believe.

      Of couse now we all expect those things, like this new technogy will in the future, when its perfected of course.
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    14. Re:Where Are The "MATRIX" Replays?! by donutello · · Score: 2

      Hey, it's just new technology. I'm pretty sure once it matures and as processing speeds increase, we will be able to get smooth real-time (you don't have to pause to change angles) motion at high-res. I thought it was pretty cool for a brand-new technology. I'm pretty sure that the first time they had multi-camera shots in a game there were problems with those back then but gradually the producers got better at using multiple angle replays as part of the broadcast.

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    15. Re:Where Are The "MATRIX" Replays?! by Xenopax · · Score: 1

      Actually I thought the replays were quite useful.

      Though they may have not been very smooth they allowed us fans to see plays from various angles to see if the correct call was being made. For instance a touchdown by the Ravens was being displuted and you could see the side angle which showed the ball over the line and the front view which showed the ball in his hands. They did this also for runs down the sideline. It's very useful for analysis of instants of plays where you need several camera view to figure out what is going on.

    16. Re:Where Are The "MATRIX" Replays?! by CaveBot · · Score: 1

      The Eye View system is an early version of a system designed to create full 3-D models of live action. The idea is if you film a scene from enough different angles you can create a 3-D model and play it back from any virtual camera position you want.

      I thought Eye View was pretty neat. Yes the it was jumpy, yes it was grainy but it did do a good job of showing what was going on about half the time they used it. The article I read about said that if they only used it 3 times they would be happy, well they used it a lot more than 3 times.

      The full 3-D system is being developed at Carnegie Mellon University and Zaxel Systems

      Now the half time show sucked rocks. It was a 10 minute concert not a half time show. Maybe DCI should do a half time.

    17. Re:Where Are The "MATRIX" Replays?! by nocomment · · Score: 1

      you mean like the touch-down that almost wasn't a touch down???
      seemed pretty handy there...


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  50. The attack on Phillip Morris. by Rahga · · Score: 4

    Lame. I'm sorry old guy in the bed with a destroyed trachea, but Phillip Morris wont change their product until idiots like you decide to stop putting a roll of burning tobacco between your lips. Quit bitching and accept responsibility for what you have done to yourself.

    As for your foundation and that damn Truth campaign, take your frikking money and shove it somewhere where the sun _does_ shine. I'd rather see those billions of dollars go to finding cures for muscular distrophy or cancers that AREN'T self inflicted.

    1. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by malice95 · · Score: 2

      > Quit bitching and accept responsibility for what you have done to yourself.

      Noone is bitching that they havent screwed
      themselves over by smoking.. Up until 7 days ago
      I smoked for 15 years. Yes I knew it was bad, Yes I wanted to quit.. Guess what. Its VERY VERY difficult to do. I have finally done it with the help of Zyban. Many studies say that smoking is more addictive then heroein. Unless you smoke you have no reason to bitch about those ads. They are designed to get smokers to think about quitting and give then some incentive. It amazes me that the cig companies put out ads touting how great they are and how they help charities, yet at the same time they manipulate the levels of nicotine and add in other chemicals to give nic more of a kick to keep people hooked.

    2. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Fixer · · Score: 5
      manipulate the levels of nicotine and add in other chemicals to give nic more of a kick to keep people hooked.
      This is a lie. Complete shit. But the truth is more sinister...

      Okay, people titrate their drug usage, whether it's alcohol, tobacco or heroin. This means they adjust how much they take to achieve a specific, desired level of effect. Nicotine is no different.

      Now, recall that, for some years now, a number of groups have been trying to force the tobacco companies to reduce the levels of nicotene in their products. I wonder if they have been financed by the tobacco companies themselves? Why?

      Because, by reducing the amount of the drug in each cigarette, you will SMOKE MORE to achieve the same dosage. And the cancer risk comes from total smoke exposure. So, the idea is this: Even though each cig has less drug in it, you end up smoking, and buying, more of them. Which increases your risk of developing cancer. And makes you poorer.

      Tobacco is addicting enough, they certainly don't need to add anything to it to make it more so. To be honest, I say that the anti-smoking crowd has collaberated (unwittingly, perhaps) to line the pockets of PM et. al, and to kill us smokers off even faster.

      Hence, I roll my own. I've gone from a pack a day of 100's to 10-12 regular sized cigs, per day. It also costs about $7.50 per carton's worth.

      So get your facts straight.

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    3. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by sik+puppy · · Score: 1

      They have been called coffin nails for a century for a reason. The question is who forced you to take the first one? I used to smoke until I got the right incentive to quit, fortunately while I was still in college - getting laid and getting a job (this just as the anti-smoking nazis were getting started with no smoking buildings, etc)

      It is hard to quit, but not that hard - mind over matter, etc. Coke is far far scarier.

      My .02

      ps - since you just quit a week ago, the worst is already over - you've got it made if you don't slip. After the next week, it should be straight forward. Besides, save what you spent on smokes for a year and go buy a nice Alpha running bsd or linux.

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    4. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by whoop · · Score: 1

      Life is about decisions. If someone decides to get in their car, drive to the grocery store/gas station/cigarette machine at the local strip club, tell the clerk, "I want a pack of cigarettes," pay for the item, light a match/cigarette, puff, puff, puff, puff, etc, it's their decision. Repeat for multiple years. Go to doctor and he says, "You have cancer, emphazima(?), etc." Then all these people (not specifically you) cry, "I've been screwed by Phillip-Morris, pay for my hospital bills!"

      The same can be said for just about everything people whine about nowadays. It's been known for numerous years unprotected, having many partners, one night stands, etc tends to eventually lead to some disease. But dammit, it's fun. So we blame the CIA for inventing AIDS to wipe out blacks, gays, etc (one of the funnier theories I heard once). People will invent any story to take the blame away from themselves.

      Hell, a local Casey's gas station fired a couple of workers for stealing candy bars and eating them. What was their decision after this? Call the local news and cry that, "Everbody did it."

      Then again, I'm goofy. And I did decide to write this post. I am not addicted to Slashdot. =)

    5. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Deslock · · Score: 1
      Do other companies do unethical and illegal things for the sake of profits? Yes. Is the old guy with the destroyed trachea responsible for his own actions? Yes.

      But neither of those facts excuse Phillip Morris from also being responsible. They are guilty of covering up the fact that 1st and 2nd-hand smoke is harmful (which they've lied about for decades) while also manipulating nicotine levels to get people even more addicted. That makes them accountable and they deserve a Hell of a lot worse than they are getting. These people should be jailed.

      But because that won't happen, fining them to the brink of bankruptcy and taxing them to pay for these "The Truth" adds is a better alternative to doing nothing (You're also forgetting that 2nd-hand smoke is not neccesarily self-inflicted).

      My biggest gripe, other than the guilty parties not going to jail, is that the government should be using money taken from tobacco only for cigarette related health care / education / advertising.

      That said, there were much better commercials during the Superbowl.

    6. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by tswinzig · · Score: 2

      Lame. I'm sorry old guy in the bed with a destroyed trachea, but Phillip Morris wont change their product until idiots like you decide to stop putting a roll of burning tobacco between your lips. Quit bitching and accept responsibility for what you have done to yourself.

      It's one thing when you come down this hard on a teenager or even someone thirty or forty years old. But the "old-timers" that are addicted to nicotene have a legitimate gripe... the tobacco companies lied and schemed to hook people when it wasn't public knowledge that smoking can give you cancer.

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    7. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by mperrin · · Score: 1
      Lame. I'm sorry old guy in the bed with a destroyed trachea, but Phillip Morris wont change their product until idiots like you decide to stop putting a roll of burning tobacco between your lips. Quit bitching and accept responsibility for what you have done to yourself.

      I'd say he *has* accepted responsibility, actually, the responsibility of trying to get other people out there to not make the same mistake as he did. What, he's supposed to say "oops, I screwed up." and just sit in bed? No, this guy's working trying to actually make the world a better place by preventing other people from ending up like him. Have you taken any action to make the world a better place today?

      I agree, smoking is stupid - but at the same time, I've lost a fair number of relatives who I loved dearly to lung cancer. My mom's sister wasn't stupid. She was a damn intelligent woman, a loving mother, and had the best damn sense of humor in my whole extended family. But she got hooked on cigarettes back in the 60s and it took its toll, fatally. My uncle's partner passed away a few years ago, and let me tell you, a collapsed lung is an ugly thing. Drowning in your own blood is an ugly thing. But even after this, even knowing how deadly they were, it took my uncle Bob years to quit himself, because of how addictive the things are.

      Are these people's deaths their own fault? To some extent, yes. But honestly, they made their decisions to smoke 30-some years ago, back when they didn't know any better. But the tobacco companies did. That's a crime. And today everybody knows better, or at least they should. And so I applaud the man in the commercial - and everyone else in that foundation - for working on getting the information out, so that people know the consequences of their decisions.

    8. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Ryokurin · · Score: 3

      it takes something seriously wrong for you to see before you quit or decide not to smoke.

      Mines was when I worked at wal-mart and a guy with a destroyed trachea and a oxygen tank came up to me and asked me where the cigarettes where. That completely turned me off.

    9. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by dimator · · Score: 2

      I don't understand this mentality at all. Someone prove this wrong for me, so I can understand:
      If there were no tobacco companies, all those who have died from tobacco related ailments would not have. Bottom line.


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    10. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Rahga · · Score: 2
      What, he's supposed to say "oops, I screwed up." and just sit in bed


      Yes. That is exactly what he should say.


      30 seconds. No catchphrases. No slogans ("Truth!"). No jokes. If that man said "I am a smoker. I screwed up." and spent the remained of the remainder of the time looking at the camera while beeps of a heart monitor run in the background, that would make a lot more of a difference than saying, essentially, "Phillip Morriss did this to me."

    11. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by PurpleBob · · Score: 1

      That's a blatant oversimplification. If there were no tobacco companies, it would either be an anomalous violation of supply and demand, or it would be because smoking was illegal. In that case, a good number of people would be dying from black-market tobacco, or perhaps from other, more dangerous substances sold as tobacco.

      People are idiots, and you can't stop them from finding a way to kill themselves.
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    12. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Fixer · · Score: 1
      Try this:
      If there were no automobile companies, all those who have died from driving related accidents would not have

      It's not a matter of proving you wrong, or right. It's not germane. The real truth is, that we do alot of things that are damaging to ourselves, but we choose to do those things anyway. Our problem as Americans is that we tend to not take responsibility for those actions.

      What you have to come to terms with is this: It's okay. There's nothing wrong with someone choosing to do something bad to themselves. They think it's worth it. They understand the risks.

      So, yes, if there were no Tobacco companies, far fewer people would have died (possibly). And that's absolutely meaningless, unless you intend to outlaw the sale, manufacture and possession of tobacco?

      I'm certain we could all use more crime in this country, so sure, go ahead. Outlaw 50 million people. I'll get the marshmellows for the fire down at city hall.

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    13. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by blowhole · · Score: 1

      Hence, I roll my own. I've gone from a pack a day of 100's to 10-12 regular sized cigs, per day. It also costs about $7.50 per carton's worth.

      what, you want a sticker?

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    14. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Fervent · · Score: 2
      Are you kidding? That's like saying alcoholics would be addicted to O'Doulls because they like the taste of the beer. And we all know where the sale of non-alcoholic brew has gone.

      Nicotine is a drug, as is alcohol. It is designed to keep people hooked onto the thing they are consuming.

      You don't see people who like soda struggling to quit. Or those who like to comb their frequently. In your mind, just the repeated action represents the addiction.

      Oh, and by the way, smoking kills you. That's how they lose customers. If they were striving to make more money, they would make a less cancerous cigarette.

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    15. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Rahga · · Score: 2

      Let's see. Researches think Tobacco started growing in America roughly 8,000 yesrs ago.

      About 3,000 years ago, it is believed that Indians started finding ways to smoke the plant which had thrived in many areas.

      We've found pictoral records created by the indians that document smoking activities created about 1,200 years ago.

      On 1492-10-12, Columbus recieved tobacco leaves, "certain dried leaves which gave off distinct fragrances" as indian gifts.... which he later threw away.

      Around 1497, Tobacco started getting smoked in Europe.

      Need I go on? People have been smoking for centruies before the founders of modern day cigarette manufacturers were concieved.

      "If there were no tobacco companies, all those who have died from tobacco related ailments would not have." is the most ridiculous thing I have read in all my life. Hopefully my children will never attend the same schools you attended. It obviously must have been teaching out of those "new" history books, the ones that say the equator runs through Texas.

    16. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2

      Sure, they've denied it ever caused cancer and had tons of "proof" from well-financed studies. Big Tobacco didn't admit that smoking led to cancer until 1998. Lying, manipulating, advetising focused on children, these things make them liable and I have no sympathy for them.

      Its very easy in hindsight to ride the high horse now that you can see through their deception. Your "everybody knows" attitude is pretty unconvincing as everybody knew asbestos was safe. Let thetruth.com keep up the good work, especially when most of their ads are aimed at children, the very group big tobacco was trying to hook.

    17. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by donutello · · Score: 2

      If there were no car companies, all those who have died from car accidents would not have.
      If there were no airline companies, all those who have died from plane crashes would not have.
      If there were no alcohol companies, all those who have died from a drunk driver would not have.

      Neither of these arguments make any sense. They sell a product which has the potential for harmful side-effects. Name an industry and I think I'll be able to come up with someone who would still be alive were it not for that industry. None of those are the fault of the industry, but the fault of the people using the product and plain old misfortune. Feel free to enact laws to regulate the business or make the business illegal if you think the risks are too bad. But don't blame them for carrying out a legal business which politicians are too scared to make illegal but at the same time want to screw over because it's popular to do so.

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    18. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by dimator · · Score: 2

      The difference is that those indians didn't know any better, and a few thousand of them got addicted. Cigarette companies knew (or at least found out real quick) that cigarettes were addictive and lethal, and chose to hide the facts, and sometimes just directly lied about them to millions of people. So my point was not that tobacco companies supplied tobacco. It was that they supplied tobacco and lies about it's health risks at the same time to a populous(sp?) that was not yet educated enough to know better. Is that right?

      Hopefully my children will never attend the same schools you attended. My schools taught me that cigarettes kill. I hope whatever school your kids attend teaches them that.


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    19. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by dimator · · Score: 2

      People are idiots, and you can't stop them from finding a way to kill themselves.

      Then why is heroin illegal? cocaine? LSD? By your argument, we should allow all these things, and when people are dying and living in gutters, addicted to black tar, well, hey, people are stupid, they should have known better. The only reason cigarette companies exist is because they were here a long time ago--before any of these other drugs were prevalant, and before the dangers of such things were known. Now, they are big and huge, and have lots of money for politicians, who like getting elected.

      anomalous violation of supply and demand
      s/demand/addiction
      Is it right to make billions of dollars off of a product that serves no purpose other than pacifying addictions?


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    20. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by deadl0ck · · Score: 1

      Hmm, a 13-17 yeard old is shown in commercials that smoking is K00l, pre-2000. Those youngsters are now addicted to a narcotic. Damn L4m3r$.

      Its not like the new L4m3r$ have installed MS windows or anything. Damn L4m3r$ not knowing anything when they are young! THey should have installed Linux or BSD instead.

      Circa Yk2+20...

      Lame, sorry old guy he installed Windows when he was young, he is a Lu$er. Quit bitching and fry his ass! ......

      You did get that Nicotine is an "Addictive Drug" from the commercial? No?

      Did you also note that its was also until recently a Frikkin Commercial Drug? Nicotine is an over the counter narcotic promoted commercially! The Ad was trying to show how that industry is abusing
      commercialism and you mock it?

      PS: The above mention of MS was not intended to discredit MS as a company that sells products that are addictive, but to show that marketing sells things that consumer thinks they need or want, even though those things are not what the seller intended them to be, or the consumer thought they purchased.

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    21. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by dimator · · Score: 2

      The automobile line is a cop-out. Do automobiles serve a purpose? Is that purpose worth the loss of human life? Are peoples' lives enriched/improved by having automobiles?

      Yes, yes, and yes. Can you argue the same for cigarettes? They are absolutely useless. Addicts no longer smoke because of the flavor, or because they like to. They smoke because they're addicted.

      If I drive an automobile, I can say "hmm... I dont like cars, I'll walk." If I smoke a pack of cigarettes, can I say the anolog, with just as much ease?


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    22. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by peterarm · · Score: 1

      No, you dumb shit:

      When cars and airplanes are USED CORRECTLY the end result is not (barring freak accidents or accidents from other people not using the product correctly) death.

      When cigarettes are used correctly, the end result is quite often death.

      Let's play a game: Which one of these three things doesn't belong?

      (Alcohol is tougher to judge, since it does cause health problems among addicts. However, as an ex-smoker who is a "social drinker" I can vouch for how much more addictive nicotine is than alcohol. Of course, if you're not fortunate enough to have good genetic "tolerance" for alcohol that's another, tragic, story.)

      But you're probably just trolling, so I won't spell it out for you anymore. Connect the dots...

    23. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Malcontent · · Score: 1

      You seem to think that the blame is either 100% one way or 100% the other way. You are claiming that the tobacco companies share 0% of the blame for the guy's cancer.

      I say the blame is shared. You can't absolve yourself of making addicting and lethal drugs and selling them and lobbying congress to keep it legal and hiding evidence and lying to congres during an investigation and advertising to kids and then claim it's all their fault.

      So pick a percentage greater then zero and less then a hundred and be reasonable. I say the tobbacco companies at lear 40 to 50 percent resposible for the epidemic of sickness they have caused what do you say?

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    24. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Looking around me, its clear that people have a much harder time giving up automobiles than giving up cigarettes. I tend to think that this points more to cars being bad than smoking being good, but you're analogy is idiotic at best.

    25. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Rahga · · Score: 2

      You missed the entire point, and failed to defend your original argument:

      "If there were no tobacco companies, all those who have died from tobacco related ailments would not have."

      As a defense against my historical view, you say:
      "my point was not that tobacco companies supplied tobacco. It was that they supplied tobacco and lies about it's health risks at the same time to a populous(sp?) that was not yet educated enough to know better."

      Under that line of thought, then, the real problem is that they tricked the American public into thinking that smoking was fine as far as health is concerned, right?

      Well, guess what? Now the people know better. Everbody knows that cigarettes can cause lung cancer and other diseases. Today, every box is stamped with the Surgeon General's WARNING. Virtually every claim made by tobacco companies prior to the appliation of the warning label has been smashed.

      And guess what else! Today, there are millions of smokers still out there. The differnce now is that they are all just educated smokers who KNOW that they shouldn't smoke, but do anyway.

      And after all that, you still haven't said WHY we wouldn't have the tobacco death toll we have today if it weren't for tobacco companies. As with any other drug, as long as there is a demand for tobacco, someone will be there to supply it. Hell, if tobacco companies did not exist, smokers would get their kicks from a good old corncob pipe and hand-ground tobacco! Smoking would be far less regulatable than it is today.

      My point is, smoking and smokers existed before tobacco companies, and would continue to exist without them. Tobacco companies were CREATED to serve a market. To say that "If there were no tobacco companies, all those who have died from tobacco related ailments would not have." would be to say that smokers would not exist if there were no tobacco companies in the first place, and _that_ would be a LIE. So, what's good for the goose is... ?

      Only 3 things will change the tobacco problem:
      #1: First, what created the problem will be (and is) the primary killer of the problem. Decades ago, "Keeping up with the Joneses" shot cigarette use to it's all time high point, not marketing. Popular ideas have a great track record at being bad ideas. Slavery, Disco, and (IMHO) Abortion Rights, for example. Nowadays, smoking is considered by "the Joneses" to be a disgusting, smelly, and fatal habit. Not fanshionable at all. Hurrah!

      #2 is death. As a demotivator calendar once said, "It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others." Show a hardcore smoker a friend who is dying because he is drowning in the fluids of his own depleted lungs, and I'll show you a person who finally decides he needs help kicking the habit. Fortunately, the mere though of cancer has been enough to get a large part of smokers to reconsider their habit, but sometimes it's just not enough.

      #3: Time. When combined with #1 and #2, social change just takes time.

    26. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Nicolas+MONNET · · Score: 2

      Oh, and by the way, smoking kills you. That's how they lose customers. If they were striving to make more money, they would make a less cancerous cigarette.

      You've missed the point by a very long shot.

      Nicotine is addictive. Nicotine is mildly toxic. However ... nicotine is the lesser of the cigarette's dangers. Tar is the danger, what causes cancer. You would'nt smoke that tar if you were'nt addicted to nicotine, obviously; BUT if you are, and are'nt going to quit, the less nicotine per cigarette, the more tar you will get.

      Besides, nicotine has some positive effects, such as intellectual stimulation, while tar has none.


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    27. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Ryano · · Score: 2

      They should have used the all-time classic Onion headline:

      Phillip Morris Lawyer Denies Cigarettes are Cylindrical
    28. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

      > On 1492-10-12, Columbus recieved tobacco leaves, "certain dried leaves which gave off distinct fragrances" as indian gifts.... which he later threw away.

      Yeah, but that was the marijuana. This article's about the "other" stuff some people smoke.

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    29. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by gimpboy · · Score: 1

      Unless you smoke you have no reason to bitch about those ads.

      i smoke. every time i try to enter a public building-i smoke. when i was a child around my parents-i smoked. when i go into a resturant with a smoking section-i smoke (a no smoking section in a resturant is like having a no pissing section in a pool). so even though i don't pay $3.00 a day for someone elses habit, i still get all of the cancerous benifits. so i think that anyone who has to be around smokers has the right to bitch, because weather or not they choose to they smoke. that decision has been by the "addicts" for them.

      remember also that like most addicts it was a choice. noone held you down a forced heroin in your veins, and noone cramed the butt in your mouth. if anyone deserves to bitch it's not the smokers, but the people who are forced to deal with them.



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    30. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by gimpboy · · Score: 1

      i'm sorry but they have been called cancer sticks and coffin nails for over 100 years. so if that guy was 110 you might have a case.

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    31. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by kelzer · · Score: 1
      Show a hardcore smoker a friend who is dying because he is drowning in the fluids of his own depleted lungs, and I'll show you a person who finally decides he needs help kicking the habit.

      WTF? Isn't that what the ad was doing? The ad you were complaining about? Showing what could happen to you if you smoke?

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    32. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by big_cat79 · · Score: 1

      What gets me is that the same people who complain about the tobacco companies killing people is that they ignore alcohol. Alcohol also kills people, whether its long and slow like cirrosis of the liver, or quickly as in a car crash while driving drunk. It seems like a double standard to me. Despite parallels between the two:

      1) You must choose to do either.
      2) You can die a slow death.
      3) You can harm/kill others doing it (second hand smoke or drunk driving accident).

      Hyprocisy at its worst.

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    33. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Mr.Phil · · Score: 1

      But that's the problem.

      With the public not wanting to take RESPONSIBILITY for thier actions, they need to find someone to blame. Cig companies provied that because everyone hates cigs... even smokers.

      You've really got to be a fucking moron to thing "Gee, let's stick this flaming stick in my mouth that makes me cough, and belches out black smoke from tar. It's not bad for me."

    34. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Black+Perl · · Score: 1
      When cars and airplanes are USED CORRECTLY the end result is not (barring freak accidents or accidents from other people not using the product correctly) death.

      When cigarettes are used correctly, the end result is quite often death.

      Let's play a game: Which one of these three things doesn't belong?

      Airplanes? Here's my rationale:
      1. The most common cause of vehicle-related deaths is driving under the influence. I can choose not to drive under the influence.
      2. I can choose not to smoke.
      3. I can fly in an airplane, use it "correctly", and still go plunging to my death due to circumstances out of my control.

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    35. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Sethb · · Score: 2

      Of course, Phillip Morris runs ads touting that they gave $2 million to the halfway house for runaway kids.

      Yup, they gave $2 million to that charity. Then they spent $118 million to brag about it on T.V.

      Why do I think that they didn't do it out of the goodness of their hearts?
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    36. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by gimpboy · · Score: 1

      When cigarettes are used correctly, the end result is quite often death

      have you ever heard of all things are fine in moderation? if you smoke 1 cigarette every day or two you will probably be fine. it's when you smoke too much you have problems. i know. they are addictive-anything you do and enjoy is addictive. you know yourself better than anyone. if you are predispositioned to addiction-then stay away from things you are likely to become addicted to.

      people get addicted to alcohol all of the time. is that the responsability of the budwiser? no ultimately it's up to you. same goes for fat people and food (of which i am). do i blame hostess for making those puff balls oh so fluffy? no i choose to eat. if i eat too much it's my fault.

      by the way calling people a dumbshit really doesnt bring out the best in them.

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    37. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by gimpboy · · Score: 1

      so you honestly didnt think smoking led to cancer until 1998 when the medical experts of the tobacco lobby admited it? were you really living in a dream world that long? you know that they have been called cancer sticks and coffin nails for over _100_ years right?

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    38. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by NecroPuppy · · Score: 2

      Show a hardcore smoker a friend who is dying because he is drowning in the fluids of his own depleted lungs, and I'll show you a person who finally decides he needs help kicking the habit.

      WTF? Isn't that what the ad was doing? The ad you were complaining about? Showing what could happen to you if you smoke?


      No... That ad was showing a random person, who may well have been an actor, in a hospital bed, with several medical devices hooked up to him.

      The message they were sending was that he was in this situation because of cigarette induced afflictions, but we don't know the Truth, pun intended, of that statement.

      Like all advertising, they are just trying to get their message across. And, like all 'rightous' causes, they will use any means necessary.

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    39. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Kintanon · · Score: 2

      Interesting thing about Zyban, it was originally, and still is, proscribed as an anti-depressant and as an alternative to ritalin for ADDers under the name Wellbutrin. And it costs about half as much under that name as it does under the name Zyban. It also can cause siezures if you've had siezures before. Overall it seems to be pretty effective, my wife just started on it and it seems to be doing her a world of good.

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    40. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Fervent · · Score: 2
      Intellectual stimulation? Oh I forgot, Einstein smoked cigarettes.

      Give me a break.

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    41. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Nicolas+MONNET · · Score: 1

      Intellectual stimulation? Oh I forgot, Einstein smoked cigarettes. Give me a break.

      Duh! Why this sarcasm? It has been proven by psychological studies. It's a really easy test -- get a set of people to do an IQ test, get a similar set to do an IQ test while under the influence of nicotine, watch those on nicotine perform better, QED.

      Being toxic does'nt mean it can't have positive effects -- hell, all the dope athletes use DO have positive effects (amphetamines, steroids, etc ...) ... along with very detrimental ones.


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    42. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Backspin · · Score: 1

      Because, by reducing the amount of the drug in each cigarette, you will SMOKE MORE to achieve the same dosage.

      By this line of logic, then, would you be likely to smoke less if the dosage in each cig were increased? Somehow I doubt it.

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    43. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Jim+Haskell · · Score: 1

      "I have eight watches. None of them are fake."

    44. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by HyperbolicParabaloid · · Score: 1
      The problem with your argument is that the vast majority of smokers started smoking when they were children. By "Children" I mean tean-agers, which will probably annoy many /.ers, but it's the truth (no pun intended): 15 year olds are not the best decision makers in the world when under the influence of peer pressure.

      I hear you saying, "Can't Quite! Of course they can quit if they WANT to!".
      Here's a quick biology lesson: nicotine is a good substitute for dopamine, a synaptic transmitter in your brain. If you supply nicotine to your brain then your brain will slow production of dopamine. If you quit smoking and stop supplying nicotine your brain doesn't work as well, which is why some people (those who use their brains) have a hard time quitting.
      What you SHOULD have said is that tabaco comapnies won't change there product as long as they can get enough children addicted each year, which is why they use cartoon characters and trading card to market their products.

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    45. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Darby · · Score: 1

      same goes for fat people and food (of which i am)

      Ummm.... You're food?
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    46. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by tswinzig · · Score: 2

      Did you read what I said? They were hooked BEFORE it was public knowledge. They were lied to about the product when the tobacco companies KNEW they were lying, that their product killed, that they were making it more addictive through the use of chemicals.

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    47. Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by tswinzig · · Score: 1

      All I can tell you is when my dad was growing up (he's almost 60), cigarettes were not well known to be bad for you. Shit, they had commercials saying (or implying) they were good for your health!

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  51. cingular by puck71 · · Score: 1

    I hadn't even heard of Cingular since like last week, where did they come from? And that ad where they had that retarded gimp artist, I was intrigued and like "that guy's pretty cool" and then I saw it was an ad for cingular and I was left to wonder how the hell a gimp artist who can't even speak intelligently can promote cell phones . . oh well

  52. Pepsi has the best ads by invdaic · · Score: 1
    In general they are pretty dissapointing, but I think the Pepsi ads (Bob Dole was somewhat scary, but good, and Kaspaov was really funny) have been darn good.

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  54. Fedex ejector seat by tube013 · · Score: 2

    I really liked the fedex ad at the very beginning.. with the high power springs and the last line where the guy says he'll really miss the dog.

  55. Halftime Sucked by eclectro · · Score: 2

    The only thing I liked about halftime was Britney in her tight pants. The rest sucked. My mother says that was because I am getting older and that the show didn't belong to my generation. Not that any superbowl halftime has been "good", just that this one was not as well done as previous superbowl halftimes.

    So who is right??

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    1. Re:Halftime Sucked by jonbrewer · · Score: 1

      Britney and NSync were outclassed by Aerosmith. They really looked weak next to a band with serious musical talent. The rapper seemed to hold his own but I'd never heard of him. (guess I'm too old.)

      It sure would've been cool to see Run DMC up there with Aerosmith. :-)

    2. Re:Halftime Sucked by linuxpimp · · Score: 3

      I'm just waiting for Aerosmith to get back on heroin and start rocking again. Their last three albums are all sound alike "sensitive" ballads. I mean, if you're going to wear vinyl form-fitting pants at sixty years old, you gotta have attitude, man. Drugs, songs about drugs, sex with barely legal groupies, songs about said groupies, and obscene lip/tongue gestures are what made them rock gods in the seventies. Had Steven Tyler molested Britney live on stage before an audience of millions, I would have a newfound respect for them. As it is, they suck.

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    3. Re:Halftime Sucked by sharkey · · Score: 1

      I rather enjoyed the low-cut shirt, too. Too bad the silicone makes them too hard to bounce out :<(

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    4. Re:Halftime Sucked by donutello · · Score: 2

      The only thing I liked about halftime was Britney in her tight pants

      What?! And you totally missed her.. umm.. things? I have to confess first that I haven't really seen many pictures or videos of her before but when she came on TV the first thing I thought was "Wow, she has nice (things)" and when I said it loud, most people in the room said that was what they were thinking too.

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    5. Re:Halftime Sucked by sconeu · · Score: 3

      Obviously the NFL is going for the all-important pre-teen girl demographic, with the Backstreet Boys doing the National Anthem, and *N'Sync & Britney at halftime.

      At least they got Ray Charles to sing "America the Beautiful". Gotta love the way Ray sings it!

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    6. Re:Halftime Sucked by n-baxley · · Score: 1

      things? What are you? Twelve?

    7. Re:Halftime Sucked by rcharbon · · Score: 1

      What, you're older than Aerosmith and still live with your mother???

    8. Re:Halftime Sucked by andy@petdance.com · · Score: 1
      Obviously the NFL is going for the all-important pre-teen girl demographic, with the Backstreet Boys doing the National Anthem, and *N'Sync & Britney at halftime.
      I dunno, I think that Britney was aimed right at my 33-year-old horny male demographic.

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    9. Re:Halftime Sucked by alexjohns · · Score: 1

      They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - B.F

      I can't believe Barney Fife would say that. No way! Which episode was that in? Did Otis have something to with it? Sounds more like something Floyd would say. Or Aunt Bee.
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    10. Re:Halftime Sucked by scarhill · · Score: 1
      Whaddya mean, halftime sucked? It was the highlight of the whole evening.

      Think of it, fifty-something Steve Tyler singing Walk This Way to Britney Spears. "You ain't seen nothin' 'til you're down on a muffin", indeed!

  56. Re:Why is this posted on Slashdot? by po_boy · · Score: 1

    You mean 2 days ago? Seems a little late to be posting that, doens't it?

  57. Cingular ads did their jobs... by yawhcihw · · Score: 1

    Well. Cingluar ads did their jobs. I came back from the game after giving up all hope of a Giant win, and went to the Cingular website...

    baa baa baaaa

  58. Re:Why is this posted on Slashdot? by pandich · · Score: 1

    Amen. Why the hell would geeks be watching a football game? I can safely say I have never watched a football game on TV or in real life. I mean...what gives?

  59. The whole damned thing... by rivendahl · · Score: 2

    This whole Super Bowl was relatively uneventful. A guy got his helmet knocked off but that it's. I guess it's not what it used to be. As for the commercials, well, you're right. There weren't many. Of course I'd like to know where they got the panning cameras they used to shift views during game play? E*Trade may have ripped off the Matrix but didn't the Super Bowl camera men do that too? Only, it made sense when they did it.

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  60. Snickers commercial... by methodic · · Score: 2

    I think the best commercial was the Snickers commercial when this guy was on the side of the street selling talking dolls, and some guy came up and asked him for the 'wazzzzzup' guy, and he smashed him! At last! Victory! That has been the most obnoxious series of commercials I have seen in years. There is nothing more annoying than hearing that phrase being repeated 50 times a day, so needless to say when the guy stomped that 'wazzzzzup' doll, I was cheering myself. In fact, I think there is a hunger inside me right now. ;)

  61. the superbowl curse... by ndfa · · Score: 2

    so with a lot of the companies that had the big adds last year gone (ie. they are on f$!@dcompany.com) this year, you think this was a concern to HotJobs.com ? I mean Etrade actually has some money that comes in from its users... Hmm. lets see if we lose any from this year!

    Game got boring, but the three fg's in 40 some seconds was worth the time!

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    1. Re:the superbowl curse... by DMaster0 · · Score: 1

      not that they need a superbowl curse or anything, but I'm willing to bet "accenture" will be the first .com from this years bowl to be on f---edcompany.com's nice little dirt sheet. Isn't it a Bad Thing when you have to remind people in large bold letters at the bottom of an add "formerly a company you don't know anything about either!" ?

    2. Re:the superbowl curse... by ndfa · · Score: 2

      accenture is the kind of company that makes its money from providing consulting services to companies that are "in tough times", so i am willing to bet that they are gonna do just fine!
      The reason for the change in name was more of a market move as they become more directed towards the tech firm.....

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    3. Re:the superbowl curse... by netmeister · · Score: 1

      Read the bottom of the screen on those commercials - Accenture used to be ANDERSON CONSULTING. They're not a dot.com, and they have tons of money/business.

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    4. Re:the superbowl curse... by s390 · · Score: 2

      "accenture is the kind of company that makes its money from providing consulting services to companies that are 'in tough times'"

      Wrong - Andersen Consulting (now Accenture) always made (and still makes) lots of money by low-balling consulting bids to get their foot in the door, then overcharging through change orders as long as they can get away with it. True stories: Farwest Federal S&L, a mortgage loan origination system, $2M bid vs $12M final bill - they were forced out of business, CEO was fired, etc. The Michigan unemployment bureau (I forget what its doublespeak name was), an unemployment benefits system, ~$10M bid vs ~$70M final bill for a system that didn't perform well - crippled them for a decade or more. The tales are many; most are buried by clients who won't admit to having been overcharged.

      Better to make a deal with the devil than hire Andersen Consulting, er... Accenture - at least the devil tells you up front that you're selling your soul to him.

  62. EyeVision by The+Bastard · · Score: 2

    One of the reasons for the jerkyness was that they were only using 33 video cameras, as compared to 100+ still cameras in The Matrix. The video was a bit grainy (I'm a video network engineer, so that's striking me as a bit curious.), but I agree; for a first time thing, this was good. A few years will see some remarkable improvements. I think, that www.superbowl.com is going to have EyeVision snippets online.
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    1. Re:EyeVision by xscarecrowx · · Score: 1

      Yeah it proved its worth on that half dropped touchdown, only if it wasn't grainy. I hope they continue to improve upon it both in picture quality and cost effectiveness of using it.
      It would be sad if it ended up being a one time only Super Bowl XXXV gimick.

    2. Re:Eyevision by talks_to_birds · · Score: 1
      Actually, I thought that it came out OK..

      It *was* VR-style: definitely looked manipulated, but that replay of the 4th quarter Ravens touchdown was pretty awesome.

      It's something to think about what must be going on there.

      I think I heard they have several hundred cameras around the stadium, so what they've got to do is meld all the different views together to create the sensation that you're flying around the stadium, all the while dealing with different focal lengths, etc etc..

      Or maybe all the cameras are syncronized so that one joystick just focuses on one target with crosshairs..

      I dunno. It's got possibilities..

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    3. Re:Eyevision by Skankmofo · · Score: 1

      the articles said they had thirty-something cameras (34 sticks in my head for some reason). As for the goal line touch down, the only real angle that mattered was the line of site from the sideline of the goal-line and they have had cameras on both sides of the goal-line for awhile.
      I didn't expect it to be matrix quality, but aside from the ability to have all the camera's focus on a spot dynamically, this is hardly a breakthrough...

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    4. Re:EyeVision by bytor4232 · · Score: 1

      Although it was grainey and jerkey, I loved it. It will be a big improvement on sports if they utilize it everywhere else, especially Hockey. Can you immagine using it in a fight. "Lets see that jab at a different angle! Oh, and look at the takedown! Classic Hanson Brothers!!!"

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    5. Re:EyeVision by shyster · · Score: 1
      BS-you could plainly see that was a TD just from the regular replays. Which, BTW, were infintely clearer and more informative than their EyeVision crap.

      EyeVision looked like something spliced together with MGI PhotoSuite (not even VideoSuite, since it was so damn choppy), pr perhaps just an animated GIF. If you watch the replay on the Net with RealPlayer at 28.8kb or below, trust me, you're getting the full effect-it really was that crappy.

  63. I Personally think the half-time show was good... by madhatter01 · · Score: 1

    The half time show was great... of course, what guy wouldnt like britney in that shit. Oh man! the only thing that sucked was that none of them did their own songs... i'm not a really big fan of aerosmith, but i didnt mind it... Is anyone else sick of N'SYNC? For the most part i just put it on mute and watched britney shake what shes got. I hope she never grows old. I also felt that the little rap by Nelly was out of place, but thats ok. Behind all the complaints i still feel it was a good performance.... hell with the game.... BORING!

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  64. is this super bowl sunday, or super ad sunday? by eudas · · Score: 1

    it seems mildly disturbing that the major focus these days is not necessarily on the super bowl football game, but instead the advertising/media coverage. it makes you wonder if one day, the football game will be phased out entirely. while i'm not a fan of football, i'd much rather watch football than ads...

    just my $0.02.

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  65. The Truth by FunOne · · Score: 2

    Isn't ironic that same people who yelled about the dirty tactics and half-truths of tobacco advertising are the ones who sponser and run 'The Truth.' It too is half-truths and blame shifting, just now its coming from another source.

    If you're too dumn to realise that sucking the smoke from fire into your body is bad, well, thats what natural selection is for.
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    1. Re:The Truth by Ian+Schmidt · · Score: 2

      If you're too dumn to realise that sucking the smoke from fire into your body is bad, well, thats what natural selection is for.

      Hear, hear. That's the real Truth.

      As for best commercials, my personal Top 5:
      1) Kasparov vs. everything
      2) "Whazzup" with the aliens
      3) "Whazzup" with the tragically white guys
      4) The dead dot-coms ad (nice smack around of the pets.com sock puppet - I can't believe those morons were suing Triumph The Insult Comic Dog!)
      5) The old guy doing the Matrix fight scenes (it was infinitely better than the lame low-res Matrix-style replays during the game)

    2. Re:The Truth by cybermage · · Score: 1
      If you're too dumn to realise that sucking the smoke from fire into your body is bad, well, thats what natural selection is for.

      I think Dennis Miller said it best:

      "If you're telling me that you didn't know that smoking was bad for you, well you're lying through the hole in your trachea... It's fscking smoke, people."


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  66. VW commercial by ChunkOChowder · · Score: 1

    I know I'm going to get ripped on cause my favorite commercial wasn't for a .com (although the etrade with the monkey/cowboy was excelent), but I really enjoyed the VW GTI comercial. I laughed my ass off when the GTI fell out of the tree... Plus, I'm a big VW/Audi fan, so there ya go. Yeah, 1.8T.

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    1. Re:VW commercial by Maurice · · Score: 1

      Those were sweet 17" rims on that GTI. Myself I have the Wolfsburg edition Jetta (the one on the commercial where they are running away from the bear).

    2. Re:VW commercial by MattHaffner · · Score: 1

      It wast the only good commercial of the whole night, as far as I saw. What a waste of money! :)

  67. superbowl ala matrix by fluxrad · · Score: 3

    WTF was up w/ the 3d shit going on there.

    "You can punt the ball, and stay in wonderland."

    "Or...you can run the kickoff back for a touchdown and i'll show you just how deep the rabbit hole goes"


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  68. That George Foreman one reminded me of an IMac by piku · · Score: 2

    I was like "WTF a smaller IMac?" and then they showed some food in it.

    The new IMac - it cooks, it multitasks, it still has no floppy.

    1. Re:That George Foreman one reminded me of an IMac by Deanasc · · Score: 1

      Because 1984 doesn't have to be like 1984.

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  69. Cingular "gimp" commercial by Skankmofo · · Score: 1

    Someone tell me, were these Cingular commercials supposed to be funny? I don't know if i'm supposed to feel bad about laughing at that gimp artist commercial, but me and everyone I was watching it with were rolling. I feel kinda bad about it, but what does cingular expect when they air a commercial like that to 1 billion people, half of them being drunk.

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  70. What's really interesting. by Deanasc · · Score: 1

    I kid you not. Before 6pm on Super Bowl Sunday there were ticket "STUBS"(!!!) for this game for sale on ebay. The sellers are saying I'm going to the game and you can buy my authentic stub from me tomorrow (nyah nyah). What a great country we live in.

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  71. Squirrels? by bennybobw · · Score: 1

    What about the squirrel add with the spoof about the bull run in Spain? I thought that was hilarious... Besides the ones everyone else mentioned, everything else has been pretty blah... Not as good as previous years.

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  72. Re:Snort by caffeinated_bunsen · · Score: 1

    There are a few that haven't been converted, though. I spent most of today in front of this computer, reading /. and playing some cool old games from when graphics sucked so much that games couldn't get by on looks alone. Background music was provided by several artists, mostly Arlo Guthrie, MC Hawking, and Purple Motion. My roommate was down the hall, watching the game with somebody who actually has a TV in their room. In short, all those companies paying millions for commercial time can have their TV-addicted zombies. I'm going back to my game of Master of Orion.

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  73. What about the imac themed.... by enrico_suave · · Score: 1

    What about ol' George Foreman's Imac themed grills? With the urban/techno/quasi-rapping george?

    It was like a half-ass Shatner delivery with bad audio effects...

    Do we need a "blue-berry" mean lean grilling machine? Really now??!!!

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  74. super bowl ads by olmanrvr · · Score: 1

    yea I agree..but the bud ad with the white boys doing "what's going on?" was pretty good..the disappointing thing was the game itself...just a shame the Giants couldn't hang in there...

  75. cindy crawford by linuxpimp · · Score: 1

    They just (the game has been over for 10 or 15 minutes) replayed the old school Pepsi commercial with Cindy Crawford. Sweet! Forget your cgi Jar-Jar wassup aliens; this is how commercials were meant to be made. Now why couldn't we have had a super slow-mo 280 degree camera pan of her?

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  76. Ads picks: by talks_to_birds · · Score: 1
    (Hey! that's all the Super Bowl's good, for anyway..)

    The "Tomb Raider" movie trailer (opening in June) looked intriguing, as did "The Mummy Returns"...

    [Princess] Fergie and the bedtime story was pretty funny..

    The first E*Trade ad was great: a tie-in to last year's pets.com with the sock-dog, and the chimp with the tear rolling down his cheek *was* cool..

    My personal fave: the EDS "Running of the Squirrels" (a take-off on the running of the bulls at Pamplona, Spain) was a great reprise of last year's best, the "Herding Cats" ad..

    The second Budweiser ad was great: a preppie take-off on the "Wassup" series with yuppie white guys going "What are you doing" that ends with two black guys watching their tv with uncomprehending looks on their faces..

    The Visa ad was cool: chick vaccuming an apartment while her slacker boyfriend watches a cartoon - I saw this as a take-off on the "Waddaya think this is, a Holiday Inn?" guy.. (maybe it *was* that guy..)

    Bob Dole and the Pepsi satire of a Viagra ad was good..

    Novell's ad sucked and was *not* new - can you say "going down in flames"?

    The I-Mac-colored George Forman fat-free grillers were -- ah -- what?

    The Budweiser "Wassup" series, with the dog unmasked as an alien aboard the mothership was great..

    The cingular ad with the disabled guy, an artist who couldn't really speak and who painted with a brush in a contraption on the top of his head, was best "inclusionary" ad and best "serious" ad..

    (What the hell's a cingular? ;-)

    monster.com with the corpse in the coffin that wouldn't stop smiling was OK..

    All the anti-smoking ads were pretty good; best was the computer-generated voice that turned out to be a guy in a hospital bed with one of those larynx artificial voice-boxes..

    The Target ad, ending up all in red, at the end was OK..

    And so it goes..

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    1. Re:Ads picks: by mjisgod · · Score: 1

      >the dog unmasked as an alien aboard the mothership was great

      Not just great, but amazing! Who would have thought that they could have possibly done anything more with the same ass Wassap idea? Not me, between the "What are you doing?" and the dog, they by far had the best showing. Now everybody (and their dog =) will be saying "What are you doing?" ... thus making their one hit wonder a two hit How'd they do that.

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    2. Re:Ads picks: by drix · · Score: 3

      You've got to be kidding me. That Cingular ad was ludicrous, bordering on offensive. It really sickened me to see them take what was a very cool and eye-opening short and parlay it into a sales-pitch for fucking cellular phones. I hate their name, I hate their logo, and now, I hate their advertising department as well. You've got to wonder what kind of "genious" overpaid, MBA-type moronic PHBs would sign off on not only that stupid, annoying name, but then pick that stupid paint-splotch of a logo, and then, come back for thirds and sign off on such a stupid, frivolous, and sometimes insulting advertising campaign. I for one think that whoever the guilty party is should be promptly fired or demoted to the mail room.

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    3. Re:Ads picks: by Tackhead · · Score: 2
      >That Cingular ad was ludicrous, bordering on offensive. It really sickened me to see them take what was a very cool and eye-opening short and parlay it into a sales-pitch for fucking cellular phones.

      As the most politically-incorrect person I know...

      As the guy who said "Whoa, cool!" at the Christopher Reeves ad - while other PC types were saying it exploited the disabled.

      Even I found the Cingular ad disappointing. Excellent Public Service Announcement. Would have fit in great with the Accenture "Now it gets interesting" theme and gotten a "wow, cool!" from me.

      His self-expression through his art, overcoming his motor dysfunction, was damn cool.

      But to go the extra leap and say that he could overcome his speech impediment and "express himself" over a Cingular cellphone was an insult - not so much to the audience - but to the guy and his art.

      The disability had nothing to do with it - imagine Picasso/Beethoven coming on TV and saying that a cellphone was just as useful a tool for self-expression as a paintbrush/orchestra. Puh-leeze.

      (My vote for the winner: The sock puppet. "Invest Wisely" - E*Trade and discount brokers having been a big part of the message last year that "if you get an account with us, you don't need good research assistance, any average Joe can make $BIGNUM in the markets!". Oh, the irony!)

  77. Eyevision by Skankmofo · · Score: 1

    I was disappointed by the Eyevision. I was expecting it to be much higher quality, but it looked like a low quality quicktime VR movie. They could have at least gotten the zooms to be more in sync (no pun intended), so each angle didn't jump back and forth. It is a really great idea, but I hope it improves by next season...the camera's themselves just seemed to produce low quality film, like the lighting was off.

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  78. What game did you watch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You typed this comment out long before the game even started, hoping for a 3-0 final score, did you? Buying into the media hype of no offense? The game was DAMN exciting. Back-to-back kickoff returns for TD. Interceptions are one of the most exiting things that can happen in football, and there were some good ones.

    I can forgive you if you are from Cleveland, but thats about it.

    1. Re:What game did you watch? by PurpleBob · · Score: 1

      Whoa, you're shitting me. Are you actually trying to get me to believe that exciting things happen in football?
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  79. Re:Snort by Verteiron · · Score: 1

    Wow, I thought I was the only person left in the world that still listened to S3Ms.

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  80. my favorites... by syrinx · · Score: 1

    * the Fedex ad with the chairs. The people shooting out the roof was great.

    * both Snickers ads... the first one with the annoying car alarm going off and then the sofa falls on it.. and the second one with the little dolls people were stepping on. "Do you have one for 'your sister is hot?'" *SMASH*

    * both Bud commercials... "what are you doing?" "what are YOU doing?" "drinking an import, watching the market close"..... but I liked the dog/alien one better. "what did you learn from Earth?" ".......WAZZUP!!!!!!" sure it's annoying, but it's funny. :)

    * my favorite would have to be the 'running with the squirrels'. I don't even remember what the ad was for, but i thought it was a great commericial.

    As for the halftime show... I will never be able to listen to "Walk This Way" again. And if I had a tiny bit of respect for Aerosmith before this, I don't now.

    And as for the actual game... uh... whatever. I don't care much. I'm from Cleveland, I'm not allowed to like the Ravens, though.

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    1. Re:my favorites... by Giordana · · Score: 1

      Favorite Commercials:

      • Budweiser and Bud Light (espcially the "alien" ad)
      • EDS-"Running of the Squirrels"
      • Cingular-"Artist" and "Peter and the Wolf"
      • E*Trade-"Bank" and "Fall of the Dot-coms"

      Least Favorite:

      • Levi's "Donor"
      • The George Foreman Grill. I thought it was for a new model of Powerbook.

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  81. The Halftime show was disappointing. by Giordana · · Score: 1

    In past years, I watched to other networks' unofficial halftime shows (usually the Simpsons) because halftime shows are usually very overhyped. That didn't seem to be an option this year (and I don't have cable), so I was forced to watch the official show.

    First of all, I thought "Nelly" would be singer Nelly Furtado, not a rapper I've never heard of.

    N*Sync and Aerosmith doing their song was fine, but when they threw in Mary J. Blige (who looked like she had just rolled out of bed), Brittany Spears, and Nelly, it became a bad case of "too many cooks".


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    1. Re:The Halftime show was disappointing. by madhatter01 · · Score: 1

      but honestly.... britney was not appealing?

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    2. Re:The Halftime show was disappointing. by InkDancer · · Score: 1

      It also became a bad case of shitty music.

    3. Re:The Halftime show was disappointing. by Bishop282 · · Score: 1

      :First of all, I thought "Nelly" would be singer Nelly Furtado, not a rapper I've never heard of.

      I was hoping that Nell Carter had redone her image and gotten a "cool" name, but then it turned out to be a guy.

  82. The EDS 'running with the squirrels' by jrimmer · · Score: 1
    The best ad was EDS' "running with the squirrels" right near the beginning of the game.

    Though the Cingular ad with the disabled gentleman painting was very well done. Too bad he's just whoring himself out for a wireless company. With not even a mention of a charity or support organization for the disabled it was an empty, cheap ploy.

    "When you run with the squirrels you have to think like the squirrels." Too funny.

    1. Re:The EDS 'running with the squirrels' by drix · · Score: 3
      Isn't that sort of the whole premise of Cingular? Something about this company has really rubbed me the same way. Lemme see if I can spell it out.
      1. SBC and BellSouth say: we aren't making enough money! How can we trick people into forking over more of it to us?
      2. Marketroid responds: let's merge and hire one of those big naming firms so come up with something distinctive that will stick in people's minds. Well pay them $2 million dollars in return for a 6-11 letter word. Just like Agilent! Yeah!
      3. Dumb, naive, MBA-educated, spoon-fed presidents of SBC & BellSouth respond: Yeah! This should help us maximize market capitalization through strategic synergizing while at the same time optimizing and streamlining our labor pool to eliminate duplicity (read: layoffs). Yeah!
      4. Marketroid responds: also, since the product we are trying to sell is about as common as, say, air, in the United States, we need to implement a new, metaphorical marketing campaign based on freedom of expression and personal liberty. This should help potential customers to forget that 3 out of every 5 of them already have a cellular phone. Yeah!
      5. MBAs: Yeah!
      6. Marketroid: one more thing: we're going to concoct some touching shorts using a gifted artist afflicted with multiple sclerosis. In their minds, people will equate this man's triumph of passion & communication over enormous physical difficulties with our cell-phones. Then they'll want to buy more cell-phones. Yeah!
      7. MBAs: Word! ... so who's up for steak?
      Everything about this company screams of "profit-motive, profit-motive, profit-motive." It's like, how dumb do they think we are?

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    2. Re:The EDS 'running with the squirrels' by Mr.Phil · · Score: 1

      I thought that a company wants to scream "Profit-Motice"

      Otherwise the would be screaming "We'll be bankrupt in 6 months."

      Yeah!

  83. Bob Dole's little blue friend... by donutz · · Score: 1

    ...obviously the winner! I'm not a big fan of pepsi commercials (though I drink their soft drink) but this one's a winner!

  84. No enless money supply this season by Knightmare · · Score: 1

    Turns out most of the moronic venture capital firms have either given up on retarded online business models or closed their own doors.... Too bad, I was looking forward to watching the commercials and taking bathroom breaks durring the game... oh well.

    1. Re:No enless money supply this season by Knightmare · · Score: 1

      I don't actually spend the entire quarter in the bathroom, I just usually find the commercials more interesting so I use the restroom durring the game so I don't miss them ;)

  85. SuperBowl Ads by Glasswire · · Score: 1

    Actually I thought the cinqular wireless ad with the disabled painter was interesting. Still not clear on why cinqular expects to be associated with creativity. The real question is: If my old cell phone was not "wireless", where were it's wires? Silly name....

  86. What do I think of ads during the superbowl? by gridsleep · · Score: 1

    I don't.

  87. Re:Snort by Rombuu · · Score: 2

    It's a sad thing to know that a football player makes more than any scientist,

    Why is that sad? There are plenty of scientists, but far fewer who can play professional football at the highest level. Supply and demand. Plus, you have to factor in the fact that the average career of a professional football player is 3 years... actually, the compensation differences don't seem that large.

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  88. Re:Why is this posted on Slashdot? by gimpboy · · Score: 1

    You mean 2 days ago? Seems a little late to be posting that, doens't it?

    some would argue that it is a little early for /.

    use LaTeX? want an online reference manager that

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  89. The fat dog commercial by Wansu · · Score: 1

    That one where the guy fed the little dog everything in the fridge to make room for the beer had me howling. Yessir.

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    1. Re:The fat dog commercial by talks_to_birds · · Score: 1
      Yeah!

      That one was good!

      I was out taking a -- er.. -- I missed most of it but caught the end and liked the dog and the dog-door.

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    2. Re:The fat dog commercial by linuxpimp · · Score: 1

      I thought it was too predictable. Maybe I wasn't drunk enough.

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  90. It's pretty sad... by vanillicat · · Score: 1

    ...when superbowl is watched more for the commercials than the game. Are commercials that good? Or is football that bad?

  91. top commercials... by Kha0S · · Score: 1

    first off, I agree... the game was weak. the so-called "matrix-style" graphics were weaker. however, they were a step... about 70 more cameras, better tracking, and a little bit of tweening, and it'd be much better.

    as far as the commercials were concerned, my favorites:

    1. eTrade ghost-town of dead .com's
    - the pets.com puppet made me fall off the couch with laughter
    2. EDS "running of the squirrels"
    - weren't these the same guys who did the cowboy cat round-up a year or two ago?
    3. Budweiser's yuppies
    - I'll be getting a lot of mileage with "how are you doing!"
    4. Volkswagen's car-stuck-in-tree
    - it was silly. 'nuff said.
    5. Snickers and the satisfyingly crushable "voodoo dolls"
    - your sister is pretty. and it happens to lots of guys.

    all told, the commercials were decent, but not incredible. someone had better give the guys on madison ave. a good kick in the arse.

  92. Re:Snort by linuxpimp · · Score: 1

    And its not all that fun to watch science. Unless the experiment involves toxic chemicals or fire. Reminds me of the "Far Side" cartoon where (IIRC) evil alien overlords force their human prisoner to differentiate equations in a packed stadium for their amusement.

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  93. Re:Snort by arseonick · · Score: 1

    I think the point is that sports contribute nothing to society, and in fact damage it.

  94. Marketing is about making you think you need stuff by weakethics · · Score: 1

    ... that you probably really don't. It is one of the most fucked up things about capitalist society, along with lawyers. Don't buy into the hype. Commercials are bad for you. They are attempts to brainwash you. And you think that you like it.

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  95. Re:i dont like the superbowl! by ladyfractal · · Score: 1

    What I want to know is how you felt about the Superbowl. :) Okay, I've said it elsewhere and I'm not trying to spam this topic nor am I from Baltimore but a good football game is a sight to see and the Ravens defense walked in ready to kick ass and chew bubblegum. That was a terrific game, much better Super Bowl than in the last few years. (Geekgrrls do sports!) Cheers LF

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  96. Not many good ones at all... by aiken_d · · Score: 4

    Man, it was like the ad agencies conspired this year.

    Ad: Computer Associates "Roosters on wall street"
    Premise: A bunch of roosters mob a big city and then create a shockwave at sunrise
    Subtext: You are such an idiot you don't even know you need us until a farm animal tells you.

    Ad: Pepsi "prisoners steal our machine"
    Premise: A coke and pepsi machine sit next to each other for months/years. Eventually the inmates from a nearby prison tunnel under and steal the pepsi machine.
    Subtext: Convicted felons prefer Pepsi.

    Ad: Budweiser "white men can't wassup"
    Premise: a bunch of dorky white guys drinking heinkein look like idiots doing more or less the same thing as all the idiots in normal budweiser "wassup" commercials.
    Subtext: White people are dorky and our customers look down on them. Oops, our customers are 85% white. Our customers are stupid and can't be as cool as our commercials.

    Ad: Levi "corpse donor" 569 jeans
    Premise: A "cowboy" kills himself on a coin-op pony and his jeans are delivered to a loser who can't afford his own.
    Subtext: Idoiot cowboys buy our stuff, kill themselves stupidly, and if you're a loser you'll want their used jeans

    Ad: CBS Becker "Airtime Abuse"
    Premise: Two characters from a CBS show sit around commiserating about how outrageous it is that the network uses the superbowl to "flog" its poorer shows.
    Subtext: Our show sucks, CBS is abusing its viewers, and isn't it funny that we come right out and say it?

    Ad: Levi "corpse donor" 569 jeans
    Premise: A "cowboy" kills himself on a coin-op pony and his jeans are delivered to a loser who can't afford his own.
    Subtext: Idoiot cowboys buy our stuff, kill themselves stupidly, and if you're a loser you'll want their used jeans

    I could go on and on. I sat there stupefied that almost every single commercial had a subtext talking about how stupid the company's target audience is. I mean, sure, you'd have to be stupid to drink Bud, but isn't it adding insult to injury to *tell* people that at the same time you sell them product?

    The movie ads were ok. Too bad none of the movies themselves looked any good. But at least the ads didn't play the "morons will go see this movie" angle too strongly. Better than you can say for most of the ads.

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    1. Re:Not many good ones at all... by RoninM · · Score: 1
      "white men can't wassup"

      Don't be ridiculous. It was upper-class preppies can't wassup. One of them wasn't even white.

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    2. Re:Not many good ones at all... by donutello · · Score: 2

      Ad: Volkswagen "car in the tree"
      Premise:
      Some idiot let the clutch out too soon and the car has so much power it ended up in a tree
      Subtext: Our customers are so stupid that they think a car will land in a tree right-side-up and the guy who let out the clutch too soon would magically appear on the ground below it without the car.

      PS: It's just an attempt at humor. I thought it was a pretty funny commercial.

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    3. Re:Not many good ones at all... by nathanm · · Score: 1

      Did you see the Dodge commercial after the superbowl?

      All the apples fall out of a tree, then a red Dodge race car falls out, "this car's one bad apple."

      How's that for a coincidence?

  97. Re:Marketing is about making you think you need st by talks_to_birds · · Score: 1
    "Commercials are bad for you. They are attempts to brainwash you. And you think that you like it."

    Well!

    Thank you for saving me from myself!

    Fortunately, and despite what you seem to think, I *do* have a mind of my own...

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  98. Digital video don't suck. by kobotronic · · Score: 1
    I disagree that digital video sucks. Most things on network TV these day is put together and edited digitally. Only low budget local TV stations still use linear editing on tapedecks. Studio quality high-end digital video cameras and editing equipment using high bitrate storage, produces very nice picture quality, and still frames of these all-digital picture sources look as nice as anything else you might have. There's quite a difference between Digital-S and Mini-DV, if all you have for digital video reference is the consumer format.

    But the 'matrix' Eyecam stuff at superbowl was indeed a bit disappointing. It did look grainy, pixelated and murky, and the rotation was very crude. Although one can see how it was done (the numerous cameras trained at the same spot, digital instant playback with selectable camera source..) I'd like to know the specifics of the system. Like, what sort of cameras were used, what lenses, how were they all aimed at the same spot, what software and hardware was used to put it all together. Did they have field tracking cameras with crosshairs from two angles used to compute the location? What are the full range of capabilities of the system? Can they replay the whole game from any camera angle? Is the picture quality available good enough to do interpolation later on? How do the controller work? ... and what could they do to improve the system (more, better cameras, higher framerate, split-frame offset shutter sync permitting super slowmotion, all that. Maybe there's an idea for an article there.

  99. We are the Lamed-Vov by drxyzzy · · Score: 1

    Thanks for the rant. It's lonely sometimes being the only one in the group who's never seen an episode of Survivor, or not even *wanting* to set foot inside the Home Depot that just opened up down at the mall.

    1. Re:We are the Lamed-Vov by Zico · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's lonely because people don't want to hang around with someone who feels superior for having different tastes than them. I could care less if one of my friends didn't feel like watching the football game — it's his life. Maybe you didn't mean your post to come off like this, but you remind me of this dumb bitch from high school who would proudly tell anyone who would listen that she'd never stepped into a K-mart in her entire life. BFD.


      Cheers,

    2. Re:We are the Lamed-Vov by IronChef · · Score: 1


      What's wrong with Home Depot? Power tools... non-power tools... all kinds of gadgets and fasteners... It's almost as much of a geek paradise as Marvac Dow Electronics.

  100. Relevance by curmi · · Score: 1

    Ok, A few points about this: 1) What does the super bowl have to do with "News for Nerds" 2) What relevance does this have outside the US? If I was to have suggested a topic on TV ads during the Aussie Rules grand final, do you think it would get posted on slashdot? I know it wouldn't. Do you guys realise there is a world outside the US? These days Slashdot has degenerated to an American-centric Mac-bash site - it has almost no relevance in the modern world. Very sad, as it used to be my favourite news site.

  101. Re:The pan-around thing is fucking lame by Micah · · Score: 1

    probably because doing it smoothly would require an infinite number of cameras...

  102. Re:Replacement for AdCritic for poor Canadian by Micah · · Score: 1

    Easy. Real any day, since it's the only one that works on Linux.

    Hopefully Ogg Vorbis will come to the rescue soon with a video codec.

  103. Re:Snort by Absolute0 · · Score: 1

    I disagree. There's more to life, the universe, and everything than the advancement of human knowledge alone. Sports are a great amusement, and I wouldn't choose to live in a world without them. No, they're not going to improve society, fight world hunger, cure AIDS, or end inner-city violence. But looking at their entertainment factor alone, they're worth the mega-bucks spent by competing corporations, the occasional uber-fan, and the general competition prompted by fanaticism. The way I see it, the world is a more enriching, entertaining, vivid experience with a diverse realm of experience. It's great to have a cause like the advancement of science and/or knowledge. But a world that was only science/knowledge wouldn't be worth living in. It'd be a chore to go through...like a rice cake with no topping.

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  104. New Troll Mascot by crazy_swimmer · · Score: 1

    Anyone in favor of replacing Natalie Portman with Britany Spears, say 'I'

    I!

    1. Re:New Troll Mascot by glomph · · Score: 1

      Replace Britney Spears with a bowl of
      wobbly lime Jell-O.... Oh, wait, who
      could tell the difference? The Jell-O is
      more intelligent!

    2. Re:New Troll Mascot by linuxpimp · · Score: 2
      Anyone in favor of replacing Natalie Portman with Britany Spears

      Naw, Britney would have to be in a major scifi movie trilogy to appeal to the /. crowd. Maybe she can make a cameo in the "Lord of the Rings" films as Frodo's ladyfriend, Dildo Boobins.

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  105. What happens to failed pro footballers? by Goonie · · Score: 2
    Plus, you have to factor in the fact that the average career of a professional football player is 3 years.

    Warning: dumb questions from a foriegner here

    So what happens to all the players that only play one or two seasons of pro football, or don't get drafted , given that (unlike soccer or in my case, Aussie Rules) there doesn't appear to be "minor leagues" - if you don't make it or fall out of the system, you'll never play football again.

    Is even the base pay so high that even a rookie who doesn't really make it set themselves up for life? Do they all go and buy bars and forever moan about the injury/coach/whatever that derailed their careers? Is there a charity to look after these unfortunate souls? ;)

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    1. Re:What happens to failed pro footballers? by superkorn · · Score: 2
      I don't know what happens to the wash outs, but there are several "minor-league" type places, such as NFL Europe, Arena Football, or soon the XFL, where they could go. Players do sometimes go to these leagues first and then to the NFL later (the most famous being Rams quaterback Kurt Warner, a former Arena player)

      The people who wash out altogether I assume get jobs and go back to being "normal" because the base pay in the NFL is not that high compared to most American pro sports. Around 100k if I remember right. Football actually has fairly low salaries. Even the really highly paid players usually earn about 8-9 million $ a year, which is a far cry from the 25 million a year Alex Rodriguez is now making in baseball, or the several NBA players earning 20 million or more per year (Shaquille O'Neal and Kevin Garnett come to mind...)

    2. Re:What happens to failed pro footballers? by nomadic · · Score: 2

      Is even the base pay so high that even a rookie who doesn't really make it set themselves up for life? Do they all go and buy bars and forever moan about the injury/coach/whatever that derailed their careers? Is there a charity to look after these unfortunate souls? ;)

      The NFL has a supposedly generous pension plan; if you played long enough, you could be pulling in over $10,000 a month. Even short-term players make enough to survive on, especially if they have a football-related disability, which increases their monthly check.
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  106. Poor quality by sharkey · · Score: 1

    True, they weren't quite what I was expecting. Did anyone else notice that the cameras were not all in sync? On the coaches challenge in the fourth, concerning the close call on the touchdown, it seemed that one or two cameras were a frame nehind the others. The players (Was it Dilfer?) right hand came off the ball and moved behind it, then on the next rotation stop, it was back on again.

    Not anywhere near the Matrix, but definitely a HUGE step in terms of proof-of-concept. Anything which let's us get better/more angles on the action is a plus in my book, and connecting them in this way made it a whole lot easier to relate each angle to the others. Definitely a good start.

    OT - Did you notice that they either broadcasted the introduction of the starters in real-time, or the censors were real slow on the button? Siragusa's "F***!" came through very clearly in Indy, and another Raven followed his example. I guess they didn't expect NFL milionaires to swear?

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  107. It's sad... by P.Student · · Score: 1

    They comemerate the Gulf War, a conflict over oil, but they don't mention that 14 years ago to the day 7 people gave their lives to try and further science. I'm glad at least the Slashdot community remembered Challanger, I wish the rest of America could think about something other than their pocket books for a change.

    1. Re:It's sad... by jazman_777 · · Score: 1

      What annoyed me was that Gumbel guy went on about how these military guys made some sacrifice for their country. Sure, they were obedient to their superiors, even to the point of death, but I sure don't remember Hussein threatening our shores in any way whatsoever. What the heck were we fighting for? If I recall correctly, he overran some sultanate or kingdom or something. Did I miss something? I was in grad school when it all happened.

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    2. Re:It's sad... by Metrol · · Score: 3

      Couple of disclaimers before I get into this. First off, I didn't see the TV show in question. Secondly, I am a Gulf War veteran. Went over with the 1st TAC Fighter Wing out of Virginia with the very first deployments that occurred in August prior to actual combat.

      I just love it when folks get themselves thinking they understand something about foriegn affairs and economics start talking about this war. You evidently don't quite appreciate just how important either oil or Saudi is to us.

      Whether we like it or not, our entire way of life today is heavily dependant on a steady flow of oil. It affects pretty much every means of transportation, which in turn effects the cost of food and pretty much any other thing you might purchase. Ask anyone living in the north eastern part of the United States what happens to their quality of life when they can't afford heating oil. At a high enough cost, people die. When food is priced beyond the reach of the poor, people die. It sucks; our use of oil as a primary means for power is just stupid; but that's the reality in which we entered that war.

      As to the political reasons, we weren't going there to protect Kuwait. We were there to protect Saudi. Aside from the bulk of the oil fields that the US buys from being there, this is the hub of the entire Islamic world. 2 of the 3 holy places in Islam sit within the borders of Saudi. They had a couple of thousand troops sitting at their northern border heavily armed. Had we let that area of the world go to a wacko like Saddam, do you honestly think we'd continue to be a player there politically? This is especially important to note as we continue our efforts to negotiate peace treaties.

      Yes, we greedy American types went to fight a war about oil. Hell, I went to go fight a war about oil. And for that, the trucks that bring the food to your local grocery store can afford the gas to do so. Your momma can afford to actually by that food, and put the gas in the SUV that brought it home. Bunch of greedy capitalists.

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    3. Re:It's sad... by Metrol · · Score: 2

      What annoyed me was that Gumbel guy went on about how these military guys made some sacrifice for their country.

      Yes we did. Good God, don't they teach any kind of history at those grad schools? Were you so insulated as to not have seen any news, or were you too busy getting drunk?

      What's REALLY sad is how folks such as yourself will go watch a movie about those events and assume it's an accurate telling of the history. I suppose reading a book or even a web page would be too much to ask.

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    4. Re:It's sad... by Tackhead · · Score: 1

      Metrol: Dude, you rock. Couldn't have said it better myself.

    5. Re:It's sad... by jazman_777 · · Score: 1

      You never did answer my question. Do you even know the answer? What were you fighting for? Low oil prices? (BTW, where are those low oil prices now?) Our military sure weren't defending American soil. America wasn't attacked at all. Nor was Israel (our 51st state).

      I did concede that the military did risk their lives; I wonder how many of these wondered if foreign military adventures were part of what they signed up for. Maybe that's why enlistments are seriously down these days.

      I have watched NO movies about those events (can anyone expect to get accurate history from TV? that includes the "news" shows). I have never been drunk in my life. And the history that gets taught at grad schools is generally by the court historians who are apologists for the regimes whose lapdogs they are. And I do read web pages: http://www.antiwar.com among many others, which generally has links to articles from news outlets all over the world.

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    6. Re:It's sad... by Metrol · · Score: 2

      Feel free to read my other reply. More importantly, you might try reading a book or two.

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  108. It's NOT a monkey by mrwalker · · Score: 2

    Monkies have tails, apes do not. That was a chimpanzee. There's a difference.

    1. Re:It's NOT a monkey by Muckermaffick · · Score: 1

      Neither am I. Ad was cute, but did anyone else find it strange that ETrade is effectively comparing its customers to chimps? The contextual message is bizarre. The chimp wanders misty-eyed through the ruins of the e-commerce world that has collapsed, taking with it billions in capital, much of it from inexperienced individual investors (ie. ETrade target market). The somber text message is 'Invest wisely.' Ergo, ETrade chides its faithful chimps for failing to do so. In essence, ETrade is warning away customers...perhaps it's time to reconsider that block of EGRP in my portfolio?

  109. Re:Snort by arseonick · · Score: 1

    I guess you have a point. I never have been able to `enjoy' things like art, sports, etc (I just don't `get it' as people have told me...)

  110. Or was it? by update() · · Score: 2
    When Jamal Lewis rushed to the corner for a touchdown and the Giants challenged the call, the best view was courtesy of the "useless" 3D instant replay.

    That's what I thought at first but -- given that the 3D view is a reconstruction based on x camera angles, how can you tell if a given camera angle is real footage or an approximation? Here's yet another point where technology makes it easy to confuse reality with reenactment.

    1. Re:Or was it? by Azog · · Score: 2

      No! You missed the technology preview at the beginning! That 3D stuff was real camera footage - all of it. They have several hundred cameras set up around the rim of the statium, all controlled by custom software that can coordinate them. They all feed into "custom" hard drive video recorders and there's software that can basically do "matrix" style video tricks in near real time.

      Frankly, seeing how they did that that was the coolest part of the whole 4 hours of TV. Although the halftime show with AeroSync was amusing.

      I agree with your thought that technology is sometimes making it harder to tell what's real and what's "reconstructed", but in this case, all the "EyeVision" stuff was real, and based on switching very quickly between hundreds of cameras.


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    2. Re:Or was it? by spencerogden · · Score: 1

      Actually it was only about 33 cameras

    3. Re:Or was it? by donutello · · Score: 2

      Actually it wasn't hundreds of cameras, more like 10.

      Those images were obtained by interpolating the frames between two cameras. I think about 5 frames between each pair of cameras.

      Why do you think they had to pause the video to change angles? They didn't have the processing speed to do realtime interpolating between 5 sets of frames so they took two frames at the same time and interpolated between them to obtain 5 frames.

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  111. Three Letters XFL. by poet · · Score: 1

    If you want to watch football. Watch a league that has the sole purpose of actually playing football.

    It is unlike our current "NFL" which is more interesting in saving their corporate sponsorships than entertaining an already comatose audience.

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    1. Re:Three Letters XFL. by linuxpimp · · Score: 1

      The XFL is about image far more than the NFL is. The image is "we're violent beast men that will focus on cracking heads instead of 'protecting the quarterback' or dancing after touchdowns, then go home and diddle the well-endowed cheerleaders afterwards," but it's an image nonetheless. (It's owned by Vince McMahon for cryin' out loud!) That being said, I can hardly wait for the season to begin.

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  112. Re:Snort by Rombuu · · Score: 1

    Just don't bitch because you can't get decent health care, why in 50 years when you have Alzheimer's (or some other disease), that there's still no cure.

    Surely you are not making the asinine argument that without football there would be a cure for alzheimers. Its not like its a zero sum game where money that isn't spent on football would go to.. well anything...

    Stupid American's - the rest of the world loves that your shitty country is going down the toilet.

    Sure, whatever, guess that's why we have to turn away people....

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  113. Sorry, Didn't Bother by boogahboogah · · Score: 1

    Watched a movie instead. I did tune in for a few moments, though, and saw two kicks and then two run backs for touchdowns. After that... turned the movie back on .

  114. Re:i think by Vanguard(DC) · · Score: 1

    hahahahahhahaha...

    too bad we rule the free world..

    enough said.

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  115. Dot.com's vs SuperBowl by stigmatic · · Score: 1



    Some dot.com's should follow the E-Bay commercials context and get out of the advertising business.

    More companies are in a rush to get their companies known without having a strong company to back it, spending millions for 30 seconds on Super Bowl airtime.

    How is a super bowl ad going to help a dot.com when, most of the males watching are in a partylike mood often too drunk to log on to the net and view a web based site they see in a commerical.

    Following suit was IBM's commercial where the CEO was clueless. This shows much of the aura of those who were in charge of the now defunct dot.com carnage.

    Companies like Pepsi and Budweiser stand to make more no matter how much they spend since their products are geared for the show, while a dot.com is not.

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  116. Bear, Honey by RovingSlug · · Score: 1

    I really liked the one in the 4th quarter where the guy sprayed honey all over his camping buddy to escape the bear.

  117. Funny Cingular Tidbit by OS24Ever · · Score: 2

    For those that don't know, when the name change came into affect all the AT&T Wireless & other companies that merged together phones change the logo over night. A co-worker's non-techy brother came by and told him he dropped his phone and now it's in Spanish. They spent days trying to figure out how to get it to quit saying 'Cingular' on the screen before they knew that the name had changed and this was the new one.

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  118. george foreman grill! by rebelcool · · Score: 1

    the lean mean fatreducing machine! That was great. They're not that expensive..pretty popular with college kids.

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  119. Re:Marketing is about making you think you need st by linuxpimp · · Score: 1
    I know its chic to criticize advertising, and I like a good postmodern novel as well as anybody, but I think that characterizing advertising as "everything that's wrong with capitalism" is an exaggeration. First of all, capitalism (and European capitalism/socialism where governments tax but don't nationalize industry) has led to the first large affluent class in history. Rather than having bread lines, most Americans have disposable income. Second, history shows that people like having stuff, whether its commoners' wooden dolls or nobles' pricey silks from far-off lands. The desire to have stuff may well have to do with social status (e.g. Bordieu's theory of "cultural capital") or Freud's "death drive", the avoidance of thinking about one's mortality by preoccupying your mind with worldly matters.

    But it's not the "fault" of capitalism; rather, capitalism gives people the ability to fulfill their desire to collect. Advertising, then, is a way to get people to collect your product instead of the numerous others available.

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  120. Not I by Felinoid · · Score: 2

    Accually I rember in high school the whole "Jocks" vs "Geeks" thing... ummm my memorys may be diffrent than yours however...
    That whole jock pleading for his life thing really effects your prespective on life..

    There is a stereotype that exists that geeks are weak antisocal introverted computer freaks and jocks are strong violent socal airheads..
    Not true on both counts...
    Basicly people think the stereotypical bully is a jock... really he's a loser...

    Sports needs some intelect. Obveously stratagy is not the whole game but the strongest airhead jock is dead with a little planning...

    In short the "I'm above that" is really just "I'm better than that bully back at my high school".. That bully never made it into the NFL etc.. The jock you beat at chess did.. Or maybe he beat you...
    As for the lunitic sports fans.. don't seem much diffrent than the luntic video game fanatics.. They are just plain nuts...

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    1. Re:Not I by bytor4232 · · Score: 1

      The jocks in my school didn't pay me any attention. Your right, the bullies didn't play sports, they were just assholes nobody liked, especially jocks.

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  121. Re:Snort by Zico · · Score: 1

    LOL. Damn, you sound stupid and bitter. Great combination! So anyway, what are you trying to say? That only Americans are superior enough to cure Alzheimer's? Why wouldn't the countries which don't "worship" sports and commercials be able to come up with a cure? And I guess those countries plan to keep all the cures for themselves instead of sharing them with Americans. Oh, the horrors! I am so fearful of the future now — I have only your wise post to make me see the light!


    Cheers,

  122. Re: the George Foreman grill by markhb · · Score: 2

    When I saw this, the first thing I thought of was, "Jobs is gonna sue."

    Now, I think, "I hope he does, and I hope Foreman smacks him upside the head."

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  123. Lets Go Mets! by quakeaddict · · Score: 3

    wait'll next year!
    (I've been coding for quite a few hours this weekend)

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  124. Half-watching the Superbowl? by crashnbur · · Score: 1
    Is that the same as watching half the Superbowl, as I did? I didn't intend to. I generally dislike professional football, and I didn't care to see it... but those that decided to drop in and ruin my relaxing evening did.

    So I caught the second half of the game. Everyone there was rooting for New York. I don't like the city of New York (it's too much for me, or something), and I loved Baltimore the only time I've been, so I rooted for Baltimore. I'm unfamiliar with either team, so it seemed like a good team to go for. By the end of the game, they all hated me. :-)

    I didn't really care for the game much; I only really paid attention when the commercials came around. And do you want to know my favorite one? I don't know why, but I thought it was funny. I believe it was late in the fourth quarter... NSync showed up on some old guy's step and told him thanks for telling his kids not to drink, etc., and it turned out being a Budweiser commercial. I thought it was incredibly ironic at first that Budweiser was using NSync in their commercial since half of them can't drink, and even more ironic that an alcholic beverage was taking a "don't let your kids drink" stance, since kids seem to be the number one consumers of beer in this country.

    Ah well. Good game, I guess. Good commercials. Good night.

    1. Re:Half-watching the Superbowl? by netmeister · · Score: 1

      Everybody in N'Sync is at least 30 years old...

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    2. Re:Half-watching the Superbowl? by crashnbur · · Score: 1
      Justin Timberlake was born Jan 31, 1981. 18 years old.
      Josh "JC" Chasez was born Aug 8, 1976. 24 years old.
      Joey Fatone was born Jan 28, 1977. 23 years old.
      Lance Bass was born May 4, 1979. 21 years old.
      Chris [long last name] was born October 1971. Okay so he's old.

      Either way, none of them are thirty years old.

  125. Re:superbowl ad's by mr100percent · · Score: 1

    Goto Adcritic and look it up. Was it cat herders?

  126. Nerd Superbowl Party by JM_the_Great · · Score: 2

    "Hey, quite down, the commercials are on!"

    "Okay, game's back, so what were you saying about that..."


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    1. Re:Nerd Superbowl Party by Mr.Phil · · Score: 1

      Close to this happened at my house...

      Used the game breaks to

      1. Laundry
      2. Put PC back together after Lan Party.
      3. Play with birds
      4. Take apart optical mouse to see if I could change the red LED to blue.
      5. Made dinner.

      Every time the commercials came on, it's time to run to the TV. I loved the Volkswagen GTI in a tree commercial, the E-Trade chimp-n-horse, and the "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?" Bud commercial.

  127. Accenture vs. Arthur Anderson by Eric+Green · · Score: 4
    The basic problem: Arthur Anderson Consulting was originally a spinoff of Arthur Anderson Accounting, with its principles being partners in the accounting firm but being IT people rather than accountants. That didn't work too well, because the consulting firm was much more profitable than the accounting firm, yet the partnership agreement said that all partners shared equally in the profits of the combined company. So the IT people wanted out. They did things that Arthur Anderson didn't like, like charge Arthur Anderson major bucks to maintain Arthur Anderson's IT infrastructure. So Arthur Anderson said "Fine, we'll start our own internal IT consulting outfit." So Anderson Consulting said "Wait, no, you have a contract with us." So Arthur Anderson said "You can't use our name anymore, and we're going to sue you for the $15 billion dollars that the contract says you have to pay us if you go your own way." So lawsuits flew, squabbles happened, and eventually they settled it via arbitration. Anderson Consulting owed no $$$ to Arthur Anderson, but in exchange had to change their name. And so it goes in the wonderful wacky world of big business. See this link for a story about the whole deal.

    [Note: Details have been changed in order to protect the easily bored. Take nothing for granted, check all facts yourself, yada yada yada.]

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    1. Re:Accenture vs. Arthur Anderson by Nicolas+MONNET · · Score: 1
      It spelled Andersen, not Anderson.

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  128. Re:Budweiser, Pepsi - WRONG! by enneff · · Score: 1

    (accidentally checked the AC box :)

    Saturation advertising has been proven time and time again to be far more successful than logic-driven marketing. Examples:

    Coca-Cola. While in the USA Pepsi is more popular, in every other country in the world Coke is numer 1. Why? Because everyone knows that 'Coca-Cola is IT.' The Coca-Cola symbol is one of the most widely recognised brandings in the world, that is why people buy it.

    At a major train station in Melbourne, Australia (where I live) a chocolate company, Cadbury, has bought all the advertising spaces in the place. About every six months they plaster the place with one specific product, at present it's a 'Picnic' chocolate bar. (I don't know if these exist in the USA) Anyway, I've only ever eaten one of these before in my life, and I didn't enjoy it that much, but the other day I found myself reaching for a Picnic as I went for my weekly chocolate purchasing voyage.

    Saturation advertising works at a subliminal level. Hell, one of the biggest hurdles for marketing types is getting people to _remember_ the product name, let alone have it on the tip of their tongues.

  129. Re:Master Card by netmeister · · Score: 1

    I switched back to CBS late and caught part of that commercial...thought it was taped procedings at the US Patent office.

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  130. Accenture name change... by Eric+Green · · Score: 2
    Err, no, the Accenture name change is a result of a lawsuit between Arthur Anderson Accounting and Anderson Consulting. One of the provisions of the settlement was that Anderson Consulting had to change their name. In exchange, they did not have to pay Arthur Anderson Accounting $15 billion dollars. It was the surprise settlement of the year 2000, the accounting firm was rubbing their hands together at how much they could soak the consulting firm for in exchange for the consulting firm being able to go free (the contract between the two said the consulting firm had to pay $15 billion, the consulting firm was saying that the accounting firm had violated that contract by starting their own IT consulting firm but the accounting firm said "maybe, but not $15 billion worth!"), and the arbitrator kicked them in the nuts, awarding the accounting firm $0 in damages. Zero. Zilch. None. But the consulting firm had to find a new name, because the arbitrator said "if you are no longer associated with Arthur Anderson, you cannot use their name."

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  131. HDTV ads - Shut Up RCA by ec_hack · · Score: 1

    I was watching the HDTV feed and not only did we have different announcers, but we saw somewhat different ads. RCA had an ad for HDTV, set at a golf tourney that ran about 10 times. Apparently, they forgot that if someone was watching the HDTV feed, they already own one! Idiots.

  132. Addiction-Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by Geek+In+Training · · Score: 2

    OK, so my coworkers are addicted to nicotine and get to take 3-5 15 minute smoke breaks outside every day?

    Well, I'm addicted to sex; I want to be able to cut out twice a day to screw my wife, girlfriend, hooker, etc. in the bushes next to the smoking area, Dammit!

    :) This is America! I want my equal freedoms!

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    1. Re:Addiction-Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by gimpboy · · Score: 1

      i agree. i once told my boss that i wanted to take a masterbation break every hour or so. he said if i could masterbate every hour then more power to me. ;)

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    2. Re:Addiction-Re:The attack on Phillip Morris. by beddess · · Score: 1

      no one is continuously focused on work for the whole day. if you aren't going out for a smoke you're just doing something else

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  133. An Aussie View by Lysander+Luddite · · Score: 1

    Being in Australia I had a unique (for me) viewpoint on the commercials. Thank God I didn't see them! Sure I saw the computer projected Kodak ads on the field and that horrible spinning sign in one of the endzones. And I did see FedEx also projected onto the grass on the field, but that's it.

    Fox Sports carried the game here and there were no US commercials on it. Even the voiceovers for CBS shows (and the sideline commentary) were removed. Instead I saw a lot of shots of the Superbowl audience and players with no sound. I also saw a few ads for Aussie sports on Fox Sports, but that was maybe every 3-4 US breaks and lasted a fraction of the time the US spots run.

    I telll ya nothing like seeing the world's biggest commercial showcase absent the commercials!

    I have confidence that nobody will see this as informative.

  134. Is that horse high enough for you? by dimator · · Score: 2

    You're calling 150 million americans brain-dead morons? YOU are "more intelligent" than those 150 million?

    It's a football game. It's ads that make most people laugh. And it's Brittney Spears. It's when we loosen our ties, and have some fun with friends.

    Elitism makes me puke. You don't like something, say you don't like it, but don't insult everyone else who might enjoy it.


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    1. Re:Is that horse high enough for you? by RobNich · · Score: 1

      Um, yes, I would consider most geeks more intelligent than the rest of the country. Many of us were outcasts in school because of our intelligence. We were more interested in programming or video games or doing projects than the "boring" stuff that the rest of the school was doing (they were being children, we were growing up). We have jobs that people admit out loud that they can't wrap their heads around.
      As far as the game is concerned, I don't think that watching the game is very exciting, I prefer to play it (which I rarely do anymore).
      As far as the commercials, they will continue to play the same commercials throughout the next year and into the future. Hell, some of them are from months ago! If the commercials were worth it, they keep playing them, and someone makes a show based around them (one of which aired last night on CBS).

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    2. Re:Is that horse high enough for you? by Stiletto · · Score: 1


      150 million Americans? Yea I'd say that number is pretty spot on.

      The super bowl has to be the biggest example of scripted, sanitized entertainment, strained and drained for the huge "Drooling Idiot" demographic. Go on. Watch it. Let me get you a bib...

    3. Re:Is that horse high enough for you? by Smallest · · Score: 1

      Geeks are outcast for being geeks, not for being smart. There are plenty of smart jocks, and stupid geeks. Ever go into a Radio Shack ? Those guys are geeks, but they ain't none too smart.

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  135. No lawsuit by Eric+Green · · Score: 2
    It actually never made it to court. I believe that several lawsuits were actually filed, but then the two parties decided to take it to binding arbitration rather than spend decades winding it through the courts. Anderson Consulting won in that they did not have to pay the $15 billion to Arthur Anderson that the partnership agreement said, but in exchange they had to give up the Anderson name. All in all, Anderson Consulting probably won here -- you can buy a lot of name recognition with $15 billion.

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  136. 2001 by acoopersmith · · Score: 1
    I was surprised there weren't more ads referencing 2001 - the closest I saw was Pepsi's Kasparov vs. Computer ad, and I didn't see a single ad from Apple, one of the companies most responsible for making the Superbowl ads what they are today. (Although at first I thought the George Foreman Grills were some new Apple notebook.)

    Apple missed the perfect chance to merge their 1984 classic with 2001 - just imagine this ad:

    [Footage from 2001 of HAL's memory being removed, chip by chip] In March 2001, Apple Computer will release MacOS X, with memory protection, so one bad program can't corrupt the entire computer. And you'll see why 2001 won't be like 2001.
    Ok, so it's an ad only a geek could love - perhaps better would have been an over-the-top tongue-in-cheek Microsoft ad like this:
    [Footage looks just like original Apple ad, except this time the woman has on a t-shirt with a penguin instead of a Mac logo, and the hammer bounces off the screen instead of making it explode.] In 2001, Microsoft will release new products to control your computer, your network, your video games, your telephone, your handheld PC, and even your TV. All your information, controlled by the products of one company decidated to showing you why 2001 will be just like 1984.
    (This is probably why they only pay me to write software, not TV ads.)
  137. Where did that ad come from? by qqaz · · Score: 1

    Has anyone ever heard of that American Legacy (or whatever) group that did those ads? How can they afford a Super Bowl ad?

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  138. Gimp artist? by yerricde · · Score: 1

    I don't know if i'm supposed to feel bad about laughing at that gimp artist commercial

    That "gimp artist" commercial didn't have anything to do with GIMP, did it?


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    1. Re:Gimp artist? by Skankmofo · · Score: 1

      no not at all...it was a commercial about a retarded artist who paints with his head and saying how he "expresses himself."

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  139. mountain dew by drew · · Score: 1

    i think the highlights of last years game were the mountain dew commercials. they didn't have any this year (pepsi sponsored the game, i take it) but i saw a mountain dew commercial involving a spaceship after the game that was probably the best commercial i've seen since last superbowl.

    unfortunately i can't describe it any where near well enough to do it justice.

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  140. excuse me but what is this superbowl???? by yulek · · Score: 1

    is it some sort of linux kernel upgrade? a new security hack? or maybe a stoner's dream come true?

    confused in san francisco
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  141. ... MY opinion by ebyte · · Score: 1

    I hate professional football, as it is today. The game is cool in it's own right, but the players who make the big buck$ in the current industry are complete morons. I think half of them would be serving a different kind of time if it wasn't for the NFL and the massive amounts of cash that is poured in by fools that think it is real.

    Reminds me of the WWF

    But lets give half tonight a ring, make them heroes, and welcome them to Canton.

    Actually, a few of the billionaires from the WWF are pushing a new league which might be of interest to the /. crowd. At least it might be a bit more real. The players might play for the love of the game. If the game deserves that. We all understand passion counts. I'll guess we'll see. Check out the XFL. It might make the game a bit more realistic.

    With that said... I also live in the community of the guys that were stabbed to death (allegedly) by the VIP of tonight's game.

    Humm, maybe we should ban violent video games.

    Role models;

    Interesting where we place our elite.

    Go defense!

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  142. Re:I think you're right by Priam · · Score: 1

    Silly! No one watches the Superbowl commercials with the intent of actually going out and buying any of these products! It's just that the Superbowl is traditionally a showcase for the most clever and amusing commercials of the year.

  143. Novell?? by twocents · · Score: 1

    I'm totally out of the loop in regards to what Novell has been up to of late, but I was surprised to see them run some commercials several times tonight. Any reason they are showing up on the tube more?

  144. But they don't have ALL the ads! by SuperRob · · Score: 2

    They're missing the crucial Aliens "Whazzup!" ad! What the fuck ... I mean, probably one of the funniest ads and they don't even have it up to be rated. This is like the Florida Fucking Recount all over again ...

    1. Re:But they don't have ALL the ads! by antdude · · Score: 2

      Rob, they are still encoding and posting. I think they had to deal with server issues earlier. :(

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  145. Re:Why is this posted on Slashdot? by eclectro · · Score: 2

    My heart goes out to those people in India, and the Superbowl is "frivolous" compared to that tragedy any day.

    Being on the otherside of the world makes it remote enough that people can shut it out of their minds. But it would have been nice if their had been a moment of silence before the game, and it would have been bigger if the network had cancelled one of its "I love Raymond/monday lineup" ads and had given it to the Red Cross.

    The sad thing is that it seems to have bothered so few. What's more, our "moral" leader Dubya is falling behind other nations giving aid. If our nation gives a dime for federal aid, they should cut a check for this without "having to be asked."

    So yeah, the tragedy is not that people watched a game, but that so little consideration about the tragedy in India was given on the national level, or even at the game.

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  146. Bud Ads online, but not for Linux by Noodles · · Score: 1

    They have the ads available on their website. They give you a choice of viewing them with Quicktime or Windows Media Player. Gee thanks, I think I'll just visit the Guinness site... no wait!! The entire Guinness web site can't be viewed from a Linux browser.

  147. Epidemiology 101 by rjh · · Score: 2
    First rule of epidemiology:
    1. Until you've found someone suffering from the disease, you haven't found the disease.
    How is this relevant to the epidemiology of smoking? Namely, that while the link between lung cancer and smoking is well-established, the link between secondhand smoke and mortality is far less so.

    If secondhand smoke kills tens of thousands of people each year, then why is it I don't know anyone who's died from secondhand smoke? How do they come up with these numbers of tens of thousands dying each year from it? Are those actual, clinical diagnoses of "you have lung cancer triggered by high exposure to secondhand smoke", or are those inferred mortality statistics?

    If those numbers are culled from aggregate diagnoses throughout the US, what's the criteria for diagnoses? If I live with a smoker and die of a virulent influenza (a respiratory ailment), does that get counted as a "secondhand smoke" death since "everybody knows that were it not for the secondhand smoke you wouldn't have fallen ill"?

    What if, instead of living with a smoker, I hang out after work a couple of nights a week in a smoke-filled bar?

    What if my only connection to tobacco smoke comes from walking out the side entrance at work and inhaling the fumes from the smokers there?

    The link between secondhand smoke and lung damage is far from certain. Most of the numbers on secondhand smoke are inferred numbers, not direct observations; and the criteria which are used to determine secondhand smoke illness are oftentimes arbitrary and shifting.

    There's a hell of a lot of politics surrounding tobacco nowadays. Best bet: doubt everything. Don't believe the hype from either side, whether that side be Philip Morris and RJR Nabisco, or whether that side be Truth.
    1. Re:Epidemiology 101 by gimpboy · · Score: 1

      i see your point and i agree. i however grew up around parents who smoked. i developed asthma around 16 and after i moved out for college my breathing improved greatly. i went to college in arkansas for 5 years-now i live in pittsburgh and breathing has gotten a little worse (nothing like living with my mom though). so i cannot make any scientific conclusions, but i personally feel there is a relationship.

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  148. best halftime show ever by awatters · · Score: 1

    Britney, Aerosmith, Backstreet, Nelly, and Mary J. Blige...the halftime show was the best I've ever seen. And Nelly and Mary J. Blige, while having no significant lines in "walk this way," gave the show significant street credibility. A triumph for marketing!

    1. Re:best halftime show ever by Targetman · · Score: 1

      so what are you? 10?

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  149. watching pro sports == idle process by Carmen+Electron · · Score: 2

    I'd live in a world without professional athletes in a second. Which is not to say a world without sports or entertainment - that would suck. But given the choice between pro sports and goatse.cx, I'm not too sure which one I'd pick.

    Too much of what's "Wrong With America" (TM) these days is that people are content to just sit back and watch other people do things that they'd like to be doing if they weren't so lazy/stupid/unmotivated. So-called Reality TV is really just the opposite. For a huge number of people, Reality TV would be a show consisting of some slob sitting on the couch watching sitcoms and sports. Really entertaining, isn't it. Instead, you get to watch other people having fun. Wow. Sign me up.

    Sure, it's entertaining, but it doesn't get you anywhere. You spend your welfare check or dotcom stock options on the biggest TV you can find and plop yourself down and veg for as long as you possibly can. Maybe I just don't get it either, but there's a reason the lowest common denominator just keeps getting lower, and it's not because too many people have stopped worshiping sports 'heroes' and gone out and done something useful with themselves. Why bother being successful myself if I can just go buy a jersey that looks just like one worn by someone who already made it. Even if I've never met them. All this for only $59.95? Woah.

    Comparing pro sports to art is like comparing a wastepaper basket to a landfill. Sure, watchin the game (having a bud, if you like) is something to do with spare brain cycles, but it's not entertainment. Go play a sport - that's fun, and probably good for you! Go look at some art - learn something, talk to people, run for office, hack an OS, but WHY sit on your ass paying your hard-earned cash to line the pockets of some multimillionaire who probably goes home every night and secretly laughs at you and your fellow sheep. Until he ODs on the coke your money bought him, or gets busted for raping/beating someone and becomes a great role model for your kids. After all, HE made it, and all you ever did was buy a replica of his shirt.

    So sure, go ahead, watch your little heroes run around in their spandex pants, have your little riots when your team loses/wins. I'm not going to try to stop you. But I sure as hell reserve the right to laugh at you.

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    1. Re:watching pro sports == idle process by Rombuu · · Score: 2

      Wow, you are so cool railing against the man. Can I suck your cock, please?

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    2. Re:watching pro sports == idle process by Carmen+Electron · · Score: 1

      When you're done with your mom's we'll talk.

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    3. Re:watching pro sports == idle process by aonifer · · Score: 1

      Sure, watchin the game (having a bud, if you like) is something to do with spare brain cycles, but it's not entertainment. Go play a sport - that's fun, and probably good for you!

      I agree that too much emphasis is placed on professional sports in this country, but...

      Go look at some art

      Why is it bad to watch professionals play sports but good to look at someone else's art?

      I like to watch professional sports for the same reason I like to look at art or listen to music. I like to watch (or in the case of music, listen to) people doing what they are really good at.

  150. If this is ..... by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    ... stuff that matters, I am Tux the penguin.

    Is there a way to moderate down the original poster....????

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  151. Australian Rules Football by CarrotLord · · Score: 2
    I think that the fact that the ads in Superbowl are considered more interesting than the Superbowl itself speaks volumes about the quality of American Football... Here in Australia, we watch the Footy and get more beer in the Ad breaks...

    see some REAL MAN'S FOOTBALL

    :)

    rr

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  152. Re:superbowl ad's by m3000 · · Score: 1

    The prime example of that was Accenture. What the hell are they selling???

  153. Kasparov ad -- from champ to putz by Voltaire99 · · Score: 1

    Wow. It's not enough to have been humbled by a machine and a younger player: now he's being pushed around by a soft drink company. So much for the glowering champeen!

  154. Re:Budweiser, Pepsi - WRONG! by larryj · · Score: 1

    Pepsi's more popular in the U.S. than Coke? I thought Coke had bigger sales. Maybe it's just because I live in Atlanta where the only time you hear 'Pepsi' is when you ask for Coke and they ask you, "will Pepsi be OK?". Not really, but I think I'll live...

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  155. For the last time... by wetson · · Score: 1

    ...it is/was Andersen not Anderson!!!

  156. Cingular history... by weave · · Score: 3
    Once upon a time, Cellular was created, and God (the gov) said there'd be two carriers in each market, the "A" side and the "B" side. The baby bells got the B side and the A side went to various other companies, telcos, independants.

    Most of the As got together and franchised a name, Cellular One. They also created roaming agreements between them so they could compete with the less diverse B side (which is a good thing when you want seemless roaming).

    Then the various PCS and GSM outfits came along, and Bs started buying As and each other. Verizon (a mish mash of a helluva lot of telcos) eventually bought a cellular one franchise in Southeast U.S. and with it somehow the rights to the name Cellular One. This forced the other Cellular One franchiesees to rename their franchise.

    So now we have two of the biggest cell companies with two stupid names, Verizon and Cingular.

    But I have a feeling they may not have had much choice. These days, you look for an available domain name first, and then name your company, not the other way around! There probably isn't many domain names left that are less than 10 chars with a few vowels in them....

  157. Re:Why is this posted on Slashdot? by davidmb · · Score: 1

    Not mine, but then again I don't live in the US and therefore don't give a toss about American "Football".

    Let's see if Slashdot covers the Five Nations Rugby this year...

  158. The best commercials that never were by jesser · · Score: 2

    Found this great article through adnews.com: The best commercials that never were (National Post).

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  159. commericals by dmuntz · · Score: 1

    cingular commercials SUCKED, come on!

    Now, the Pepsi commercials were hilarious, and the Budweiser commercials.

  160. Re:EyeVision and how it kinda sorta works by chowpalace · · Score: 1

    I was fortunate enough to get a tour of the production facilities at RayJay on Friday with the Technical Producer Larry Barbatsoulis, and he gave me some info on the EyeVision setup.... the 33 cameras all have the same aspect ratio. He mentioned that auto-focusing was somewhat limited given the distance the cameras were from the field's crown. Some background on the process: the cameras are positioned by a cameraman in a trailer outside the stadium. He has a tripod mounted camera (without a camera) he has a display mounted where the camera normally is. otherwise he plays the same role as studio or cameramen inside the stadium. The entire game is recorded onto 2 TeraBytes worth of server space located onsite. He said it does indeed take up that much space... so much for real video for replay purposes (which he said could be instantaneous) the feed is routed from the storage drives to Digital Video. Otherwise the data is backed up onto DVD. Conicidentally, these arent HDTV cameras, and I dont remember if he said that these particular camera feeds were broadcast on the HDTV signal. The Super Bowl had 8 cameras dedicated to HDTV, with a wholly different broadcast team.

  161. Irrational. by rjh · · Score: 2

    The only reason cigarette companies exist is because they were here a long time ago

    The only reason anything exists is because either (a) it was just created or (b) it's been around. What's your point?

    If your point is that tobacco would be considered a drug regulated by the FDA were it to be brought to market today, I repeat: what's your point? Aspirin (and other NSAIDs) are surprisingly potent analgesics and have low overdose levels. After I (accidentally) nearly overdosed on acetaminophen, my doc ruminated that, if aspirin and other NSAIDs were introduced to the market today, they'd be considered prescription drugs because of their potency and lethality.

    So if we're going to retroactively ban cigarettes because they're harmful, going against centuries of tradition, why don't we also retroactively turn aspirin and NSAIDs into prescription drugs?

    The answer is that in a country governed by the people, the people get to decide what's illegal and what's not. The people don't want cigarettes to be illegal, nor do they want aspirin to be a prescription drug.

    Thus, it won't happen.

    Period.

    Is it right to make billions of dollars off of a product that serves no purpose other than pacifying addictions?

    Why, let me get this straight. You want to ban the first cup of morning coffee, too? After all, that has "no purpose other than pacifying addictions".

    But let's not go there right now, because to go there gives your argument more credibility than it possesses. There is a useful purpose served by tobacco, other than fulfilling an addiction. The purpose is, I like it.

    I enjoy a stogie on occasion, once a month or two months, when something happens which is worth commemorating. It could be getting a software release out the door; it could be celebrating a birthday; it could be a stogie after a great baseball game. But for personal reasons, I smoke cigars to commemorate personal milestones.

    Am I addicted? Not if I can go six weeks without a Rothschild.

    Do I find tobacco useful? Certainly.

    So your argument--that there exists no useful purpose for tobacco other than to feed addictions--falls flat on its face. There are a lot, repeat, a lot of people like me. We smoke tobacco because we like it, not becuase we need to. We drink single-malt Scotch because we enjoy the taste of a premium liquor, not because we're alcoholics.

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  162. Wash Water by snookerwolf · · Score: 1

    Most of these commericals were bland. However, EDS does get a couple claps for the running of the squirrels. I also think the George Fore-Mac grill was kind of interesting.

  163. Who cares about the Superbowl??... by featheredfrog · · Score: 1
    ...when my local PBS broadcast ALL TWELVE of the Fawlty Towers episodes back-to-back!!

    Que?

    ff

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  164. Re:Football by Targetman · · Score: 1

    nice talk, potty mouth. I'm a huge "european football" or soccer fan. I've coached it for over 10 years. But I don't get all pissed-off about what it's called.

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  165. Re:I think.. by bytor4232 · · Score: 1
    NFL really sucks. I am a football fan, but in the purest sence. I can't stand the NFL, its ruining the game. Like the second to last touchdown. The guy was being tackled and the ball was flying from his hands. Just because he was touching it as it was falling over the goal line they counted it as a touchdown. Bullshit. In college ball, he has to have control of the ball as well as touch it on the ground.

    That and the fact that all the players act like assholes.

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  166. Re:Replacement for AdCritic for poor Canadian by NickV · · Score: 1

    REAL Player is the MOST AWFUL, EVIL, PIECE OF SHIT PROGRAM IN THE WORLD.

    Speaking from the windows perspective (it's not THAT bad for Linux,) it has to have the most awful installer in the world. It:

    1) It installs MILLIONS of tray icons

    2) It forces you to register tons of times

    3) it changesyour default players (even though it asks, it does it regardless of what you say)

    4) It's very hidden on the web site (plus is easy to find however!)

    5) It's codec sucks. (sorenson might be not be around for linux, but it rocks) And it's not an open-source/closed-source issue either, since real is just as anal about their codec

    6) When you install, it subscribes you to tons of mailing lists... and here's the kicker. When you install, it shows you a window with email lists you can join, and they are all unclicked... until you scroll to the bottom and see three clicked on by default! How evil is that!?

    7) Even when all startup programs are closed and not setup for startup, there still is a sneaky one that pops up a month after install informing you "Did you know you're computer can make MP3s? Try RealJukebox!"

    8) It comes with RealJukebox ... more bloat.

    Sorry, I know this was a bit offtopic. But I can't stand Realplayer advocacy. Real is an evil, evil company. Just because they support Linux, doesn't make them any better. It takes me 30 minutes to clean my system up from all the damage after a Real installation. And it still never gets completely clean.

  167. make me laugh by mach-5 · · Score: 1

    I think that all commercials should be funny or slightly humorous to some degree. If I have to sit through endorsements, at least don't bore me to death. I found myself laughing quite a few times during the superbowl. For this reason, I think the advertisers did a pretty good job.

    On another, slightly off-topic note, I think the half-time show was actually quite good. Even though it was a strange mix of performers, I liked the way they just got up on a stage, and did their music. There was no wierd flags, dancing, or strange interpretive art performances. Props to E*Trade for the half-time show.

  168. Re:The pan-around thing is fucking lame by bytor4232 · · Score: 1

    It served its purpose for instant replays. I don't care about the quality, just the technicial aspects of what went-wrong/happened.

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  169. "I have lost many friends to the squirrels." by JustinAlias · · Score: 1

    Of the dozens of commercials shown during the Super Bowl (the exact number of them escapes me at the moment), only two really stood out from the crowd. My personal favorite of the night has to be the commercial featuring the "Running of the Squirrels". I wish I could remember the name of the company that it was advertising, but I honestly can't. A direct result from too much of the ale, perhaps?

    The Honorable Mention has to go to Volkswagon commercial. A very creative one, I thought.

    offtopic rambling: Just what percentage of football fans actually listen to Sting/Spears/Nsync/etc? It makes me wonder why they were even considered for appearances.

    1. Re:"I have lost many friends to the squirrels." by Mr.Phil · · Score: 1

      EDS for the squirrels or "Ed's"

  170. Do you remember when? by Microsift · · Score: 1

    The SuperBowl ad is just another innovation for which we owe Apple our neverending thanks!

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  171. "OK guys... by MasterVidBoi · · Score: 1

    ... the game's back on." "Lets go and get some more chips and dip"

  172. Re:Super Bowl Sucked??? by bytor4232 · · Score: 1

    It wasn't a waste of time if your a Ravens fan! hehe

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  173. commericals by abbccc · · Score: 1

    I still like the elephant busting from the stolen peanut truck....... i thought the was-sup aliens was kinda lame.

  174. Cingular Ad were Homosexually Suggestive by shpoffo · · Score: 1

    i'm not a bigot or hoomophobic - i jsut think the Cingular ads were all rather homosexually suggestive. Or maybe it's just kind of a rorschach test..... =P -shpoffo

  175. Smirnoff by White+Roses · · Score: 1
    Perhaps it was just a local ad, but the best one I saw was the Smirnoff vodka commercial (I'm probably misspelling the vodka's name). It's a re-hash of all the recent bear-attacks-campsite commercials that Toyota and Wendy's (to name two) are making, but far more hilarious.

    Yes, it is funny when the one guy hoses the other guy with honey and then takes the drinks and the women.

    The Snicker's commercials were also pretty good. Those damn car alarms have to go. And all those little dolls, priceless.

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  176. What, no links? by vattervi · · Score: 1

    If you would like to see the ads again, go to

    http://www.adcritic.com

    And the truly lazy, here are some of the ads that stand out - links go to the QuickTime versions... sorry, it was either that or Windows Media Player format :(

    E-Trade: Dot-Com Graveyard
    Budweiser: What Are You Doing?
    EDS: Running With The Squirrels

    Enjoy.

  177. Nelly! by Funk_dat69 · · Score: 1

    That rapper was Nelly! He rules. To bad the Rams didn't make it back to The Game, it woulda been an STL party! Plus I'm pretty sure the Rams woulda beat tha pants off either of those teams. FUNK!

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  178. Who were the animated corpses next to Britney? by ellem · · Score: 1



    and where can I see pic of her in her outft?


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  179. Smirnoff Ice by Squib · · Score: 1

    Apparently, I was the only person in the entire world who saw that damn Smirnoff Ice commercial, with the bears and the honey and the chasing with the hurting, glayven. I thought it was high-larious! Anybody else concur?

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    1. Re:Smirnoff Ice by Mr.Phil · · Score: 1

      That one's not new... it's been playing in my area (mid michigan, usa) for about 3 weeks now

  180. The E-Trade commercial was a re-tread with a twist by SirTreveyan · · Score: 1

    I guess everyone was too young to remember the "Keep America Beautiful" ad campaign back it the 70's. It featured an Indian riding horseback though a littered landscape. The clincher of that commercial was a tear rolling down the Indian's face. So while the E-trade commercial was funny...it definately wasnt original.

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  181. There was this one ad... by ellem · · Score: 1

    that wasn't too funny but the last line was hillarious.

    And that's all I can remember about it. I think it may have involved chips of some kind.

    Not the Fla. vote one though.
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  182. ridiculopathy.com tv spot by tenzig_112 · · Score: 1
    did anyone see it?

    I was told it was going to run in the middle ad break in the 2nd quarter. I'm worried that our check didn't clear in time...

    soon to offer an IPO...

  183. Re:The E-Trade commercial was a re-tread with a tw by ellem · · Score: 1

    ---Not a retread. That was an allusion (to allude to.) Like an indirect reference. To make you go, "Hey I know what they're doing," notice how well it worked.

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  184. Re:i think by Vanguard(DC) · · Score: 1

    lol...

    well put.

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  185. Where is the Alien Whassup commercial by cylcyl · · Score: 1

    I could not find it on Adcritic. Why? They said that they had all the commercials!

  186. UPDATE time wrong?? by omega9 · · Score: 1

    How come the UPDATE to the original post is time-stamped "01/29 06:29 PM"? Right now by my watch it's 1/29 1:43pm.

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  187. Look at the Numbers by dman123 · · Score: 1
    It may not be interesting to you, but there are more posts at >=1 on this story right now than the next 7 stories combined.

    People obviously care enough to comment on it.

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  188. Re:Look at the Numbers - Disclaimer by dman123 · · Score: 1

    Disclaimer to previous post: ...Numbers are according to the /. story filters I set up. Your mileage may vary.

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  189. Bigtime Consulting aka Indenture... by graveyhead · · Score: 1

    indenture.ac formerly known as "bigtimeconsulting.com" is a wonderful parody of Accenture, from an insider in the know.

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  190. EDS: Aimed at the bulls we didn't see? by IanWestray · · Score: 1
    The whole "you don't have to fear the big brutes, you have to worry about the agile small competitors" message to the squirrel ad was just wrong, wasn't it?

    If you had a medium-sized IS company right now, would you fear web start-ups? Or would you, instead, be worried that Microsoft would undercut your core technology release and then tie you up in obstructive litigation until you starved or accepted the buyout on their terms? The 900-pound bull(y) in Redmond is a hell of a lot scarier than the little guy reading the comic about Charles Atlas.

    The irony is that the commerical was aimed at "the bulls" -- the ponderous big competitors mentioned in the tag line. If you're a huge corporate IS interest, then yes, it makes sense to hire someone to take out the little, mobile runts who want part of your God-given market. That's the only way the ad even makes sense, if you think about it.

  191. dont forget Bud by kdecker · · Score: 1

    The budweiser commercial at the beginning was absolutely hilarious as well.

  192. Re:Slashdot: News for Americans by an_to_nio · · Score: 1

    Seconded.

  193. Re:Why is this posted on Slashdot? by Darby · · Score: 1

    There's a great sports bar in San Diego with over a hundred screens (Sports City),

    Where is this place?


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  194. adcritic doesn't support Lunix/Unix by dturley · · Score: 1

    which means hemos is a windows user?

  195. They must be cool... or at least expensive by imevil · · Score: 1

    I belong to that group of people who would tape the superbowl for the commercials.
    I didn't, but I watched some. Well, most of them weren't that good. But they were expensive. With lots of important people.

  196. What they should have done by kaoshin · · Score: 1

    is used the matrix replay thing when the scuffle broke out. You couldn't see if any punches were even thrown from regular camera angles. Guess we need to wait till the XFL for that kind of action?

  197. Post-post-modernism? by Dr.+Chop+Chop · · Score: 1
    Did anyone else notice how many commercials were only funny because they contained references to other commercials (which were funny in the first place because they commented on popular culture?)

    I want to see a commercial where the E-trade monkey and the Pets.com puppet get together and paint a Campbell's soup can while mindlessly jabbering "WAZZUP!@#" to each other...

  198. Cartoon Network by belg4mit · · Score: 1

    Well it sounds like the Cartoon Network had the best commercials. They had wonderful parodies of last year's Monster commercials, recent Volkswagen and GAP ones as well.

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  199. Re:Super Bowl Sucked??? by TheReverend · · Score: 1

    Yes... and I can probably assume that I'm the only Ravens fan here :-)

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  200. Danger Will Robinson!!! Danger!!! by PhilosopherKing · · Score: 1

    I would be very careful with using only one source for your popular media. (I'm assuming current events is what you mean) You run a very high risk of unintentionally missing out on a lot of information. Such as: GWBjr. yanking federal aide if a program counsels about abortion abroad, an oil tanker spilling half its fuel in the Galapogos Islands, and the India quake. I'm not saying stay plugged into Fahrenheit 451 TV-parlour, just read a newspaper twice a month, a variety mag(Discover/NewsWeek/etc) once a month. The evening news once a week.

    Just try to stay away from limitation, especially when it's marketed as specialization.

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  201. Re: The Cingular Artist by dalesun · · Score: 1

    I guess Cingular is trying to connect self-expression with cell phone use. It's a stretch, but not any more than the themes in most ads. I first thought that the add was exploitive, but then I went to Cingular's web site and read about Dan Keplinger (the artist), visited his web site, and read what he and others had to say about the commercial. Dan says: "I think Cingular showed courage to do something really different and something significant about the importance of self-expression." and "it gave me an unbelievable opportunity to show the world - a hundred million people - my art. It doesn't get any better than that. I hope that my talent, my art and my fighting spirit communicate their message. And I hope that people remember the gift that we all have - the gift of self-expression." What ad is better than that? And did Cingular or Dan benefit more? Now I really think it was a great ad!

  202. windoze only by dturley · · Score: 1

    Well,the adcritic site states they don't support unix. Sure are a lot of windoze users on /. !

  203. ya, well by IceCreamBrain · · Score: 1

    Um who were the jerks who started smoking in the first place? Americans like to blame business for their own problems. If people smoked in moderation then we woulden't have those problems.

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  204. Re:Marketing is about making you think you need st by Rakarra · · Score: 1
    ... that you probably really don't.

    Wow, sounds like a good portion of the Slashdot articles these days: "Look at this really cool toy!"