That's the problem right there. You cannot demand that people work for your company for free. At a minimum, you're violating minimum wage laws. It doesn't matter how straight forward the exercise is. It takes long enough to get past phone screens and first and second round interviews, we don't need to demand more time from potential hires. They either have a job they're trying to leave or they're busy with a job search. Having them do "homework" says that you don't respect people's time and you're probably the type of outfit that has people working nights and weekends.
Exactly. But it works both ways. You and I are probably better off not working for a company that does things like that, whereas others may enjoy being trampled on in the workplace at all hours, on all days.
If you lease an apartment, are you indentured to the property owner? This is as stupid as college brats complaining that they're in debt for six figures. Don't sign something that you think is too expensive. You have that option. If more people did it, those contracts would become more reasonable by necessity. What you can't do is agree to something and then complain that it's unfair. You opted in to that arrangement!
We're doomed because in our country a car driver can publicly shame a CEO and bring international attention to bad business practices? Oh, the horror! The end is near! The end is near!
We're Americans, they're not. That's the point. If we choose to admit others, that's our choice, but nothing compels us to do so. We certainly shouldn't do so when it's a threat to national security. Attitudes like yours are why people are getting molested by the TSA for exercising their right to travel. That is a violation of the Bill of Rights, you fuckstick.
Health care facilities negotiate costs with insurers. If they negotiate badly, that's on them. Insurance serves as a check and balance for the patient by disallowing excessive charges for things like surgery. If insurance only pays half what was asked for and the hospital happily takes it, you know they're overcharging. Now try that without insurance. Good luck.
I don't think there's much of a choice for non-citizens. Look at what open borders get you, tourism numbers in France are way, way down. No one wants to deal with frequent terror attacks and rioting.
Yes, and it's a shame so many local papers sold out. It's a disservice to their readership. There are a lot of problems with local papers. Honesty is a big issue. My local paper had a very lively online community, but they didn't like the fact that the comments pointed out the bias or inaccuracies of many of their reports. Up went a paywall and out went pseudo-anonymous accounts. It absolutely killed them. Worse, the local papers' websites are the hosts for the nastiest, most annoying advertising. Some of them are unmanageable even with adblocking. I would pay a subscription for unbiased content and unfettered commentary and I'm sure a number of people would, forgoing the need for heavy advertising.. but that's a tall ask for the old media and sadly we can't always have what we want. So we go to Facebook or other social media venues to fill the whole that local news used to. They need to adapt with the times or disappear like payphones.
I don't think it's the price so much as the narrowed field of view. They cut some corners there presumably to save on costs. I would have bought into it if not for that, and I'm sure I'm not alone.
No it can't. There's value in local news teams that you don't get with national or international outfits. That's why the televised networks usually have local news followed by national and world news. Most people are primarily interested in their area, and only the top stories beyond.
Like the coward said, this isn't a traditional software product. This is hardware, API, and a bunch of other things in an area (AR) that doesn't have much groundwork laid. Most orgs wouldn't even take the risk of being that cutting edge.
Like the iPhone that was only for right-handed users?
I don't know if MS ever published any numbers, but it looks like the first version was targeted mostly at developers, which makes sense. You pay for the hardware and you get a jump start in producing a software product for it, without waiting for a general release. That's not at all unusual and is actually a good thing. It sounds like they were doing parallel development with version two and version three at different points in the development life cycle. If two had issues that couldn't be worked out in a reasonable amount of time doesn't it make sense to drop the release and focus on the next one? These things happen with large, cutting edge projects. At least MS is trying to innovate, there hasn't been much new from Apple other than the "courage" of removing every port possible from their devices.
Where do you work? would you be ok with your employer coming up to you and for no reason telling you to clean out your desk and get out? would you be ok with not getting any compensation at all, just told to GTFO?
Considering I could just say "I quit" and do the same thing, yes.
Software development isn't the "hardest stuff". Trying to run a company, pay your employees, keep the customers happy, keep the lights on.. all of that doesn't just happen on its own. If it was so easy, you'd be running your own company rather than whining about it.
If he was suspected of espionage they should have secured a warrant. They also can't tear apart his home without a warrant. I get that you're taking the path of least resistance, but I'm at the other end. I'd rather risk further provocation in order to defend what I think is right. The problem is, not many people will do that anymore, the authorities know this, and our rights are becoming indefensible.
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"you have to work for it."
That's the problem right there. You cannot demand that people work for your company for free. At a minimum, you're violating minimum wage laws. It doesn't matter how straight forward the exercise is. It takes long enough to get past phone screens and first and second round interviews, we don't need to demand more time from potential hires. They either have a job they're trying to leave or they're busy with a job search. Having them do "homework" says that you don't respect people's time and you're probably the type of outfit that has people working nights and weekends.
I think that was a play on my username. ;)
If you believe anything in advertising you've got bigger problems.
Exactly. But it works both ways. You and I are probably better off not working for a company that does things like that, whereas others may enjoy being trampled on in the workplace at all hours, on all days.
It doesn't matter if it goes into a product or not. You're employing the candidate by having them complete a software project.
If you lease an apartment, are you indentured to the property owner? This is as stupid as college brats complaining that they're in debt for six figures. Don't sign something that you think is too expensive. You have that option. If more people did it, those contracts would become more reasonable by necessity. What you can't do is agree to something and then complain that it's unfair. You opted in to that arrangement!
We're doomed because in our country a car driver can publicly shame a CEO and bring international attention to bad business practices? Oh, the horror! The end is near! The end is near!
You ask people to do work for your company and don't compensate them for it?
We're Americans, they're not. That's the point. If we choose to admit others, that's our choice, but nothing compels us to do so. We certainly shouldn't do so when it's a threat to national security. Attitudes like yours are why people are getting molested by the TSA for exercising their right to travel. That is a violation of the Bill of Rights, you fuckstick.
Health care facilities negotiate costs with insurers. If they negotiate badly, that's on them. Insurance serves as a check and balance for the patient by disallowing excessive charges for things like surgery. If insurance only pays half what was asked for and the hospital happily takes it, you know they're overcharging. Now try that without insurance. Good luck.
Why we would vote for people that want to make it easy for terrorists to enter the country?
I don't think there's much of a choice for non-citizens. Look at what open borders get you, tourism numbers in France are way, way down. No one wants to deal with frequent terror attacks and rioting.
Yes, and it's a shame so many local papers sold out. It's a disservice to their readership. There are a lot of problems with local papers. Honesty is a big issue. My local paper had a very lively online community, but they didn't like the fact that the comments pointed out the bias or inaccuracies of many of their reports. Up went a paywall and out went pseudo-anonymous accounts. It absolutely killed them. Worse, the local papers' websites are the hosts for the nastiest, most annoying advertising. Some of them are unmanageable even with adblocking. I would pay a subscription for unbiased content and unfettered commentary and I'm sure a number of people would, forgoing the need for heavy advertising.. but that's a tall ask for the old media and sadly we can't always have what we want. So we go to Facebook or other social media venues to fill the whole that local news used to. They need to adapt with the times or disappear like payphones.
I don't think it's the price so much as the narrowed field of view. They cut some corners there presumably to save on costs. I would have bought into it if not for that, and I'm sure I'm not alone.
The government finds the government not guilty, hardly surprising.
This is just like Hillary and her emails. She broke the law and everyone knows it but the FBI wouldn't act "because Hillary".
Or like the AHA with Obama warning the Supreme Court that overturning his precious law would be "unprecedented".
Or like Benghazi where we still don't know what the hell happened or who ordered our assets in the area to stand down.
Or like the BP spill where the Mines and Minerals Service wasn't held to account for not enforcing existing regulations.
Etc..
Plenty of rage we're coming off of that is valid rage.
Not to mention.. if you like your plan you can keep it and the average working family will save $2000 on their premiums.
No it can't. There's value in local news teams that you don't get with national or international outfits. That's why the televised networks usually have local news followed by national and world news. Most people are primarily interested in their area, and only the top stories beyond.
Like the coward said, this isn't a traditional software product. This is hardware, API, and a bunch of other things in an area (AR) that doesn't have much groundwork laid. Most orgs wouldn't even take the risk of being that cutting edge.
AR vs VR. Apples vs oranges.
You've never worked on a large project where the decision was made to skip a release and put everyone on the next one?
Like the iPhone that was only for right-handed users?
I don't know if MS ever published any numbers, but it looks like the first version was targeted mostly at developers, which makes sense. You pay for the hardware and you get a jump start in producing a software product for it, without waiting for a general release. That's not at all unusual and is actually a good thing. It sounds like they were doing parallel development with version two and version three at different points in the development life cycle. If two had issues that couldn't be worked out in a reasonable amount of time doesn't it make sense to drop the release and focus on the next one? These things happen with large, cutting edge projects. At least MS is trying to innovate, there hasn't been much new from Apple other than the "courage" of removing every port possible from their devices.
Where do you work? would you be ok with your employer coming up to you and for no reason telling you to clean out your desk and get out? would you be ok with not getting any compensation at all, just told to GTFO?
Considering I could just say "I quit" and do the same thing, yes.
Who killed the TPP?
Yes, an uprising for the proletariat!
Software development isn't the "hardest stuff". Trying to run a company, pay your employees, keep the customers happy, keep the lights on.. all of that doesn't just happen on its own. If it was so easy, you'd be running your own company rather than whining about it.
If he was suspected of espionage they should have secured a warrant. They also can't tear apart his home without a warrant. I get that you're taking the path of least resistance, but I'm at the other end. I'd rather risk further provocation in order to defend what I think is right. The problem is, not many people will do that anymore, the authorities know this, and our rights are becoming indefensible.
He's a US citizen.