I didn't even mention corporations, that was someone else. I was just making an observation that our standard of living and what we deem as essential possessions and such have changed considerably since the era of the space race. America isn't poorer than it was before, the funding could be had.. but I don't think most folks would want to make any sacrifices in order to free up money to fund truly large space programs.
Yes, if it was cheaper, it'd be more likely to happen. Also true that if there was revenue to be had either through tourism, mining, or who knows what.. that could also make it happen. Virgin and SpaceX might get there. Who knows.
That depends on what you view our role to be in this existence. You can send a robot up a mountain too, but climbers generally prefer to climb it themselves. I'm not in favor of spending a fortune on human space travel right now, but at the same time.. can you imagine our existence if we went with the lowest cost option for everything in life?
You're reading ideology into a non-ideological comment. I greatly prefer that people retain as much of their income as possible. I would love it if we could choose parts of the government to fund voluntarily rather than the funds be removed from our pay before it ever hits our checking accounts. I don't ever expect to see that happen, but it could create a government that is actually "for the people".
The point I was trying to make is that a lot of great things were done during the race to the moon, but the average family didn't have the kind of possessions that we take for granted today. If everyone made do with what they had during that time period, there would be money to fund a more aggressive space program.
The only thing I can say about the moon is that with the technology we have today compared to what we had back then, I would think we'd be able to get people on the moon for a heck of a lot less money. Why bother? I have no idea. Maybe as a stepping stone to Mars. Why go to Mars? No idea there either, but then again, why do so many people go mountain climbing?
Another way of looking at it is that money that could have gone to a space program is now in the homes in the form of smartphones, cutting edge PCs, home entertainment systems, etc. No one wants to sacrifice for a greater good if it means not getting the latest new iPhone.
I can tell you've never been to a town meeting. Everyone complains about the various city employee unions. In my city, the teacher's union stalled on contract negotiations until the students were back in school, then threatened to strike if their demands weren't met. Which was great since teachers aren't allowed to strike because it was obvious to lawmakers that this scenario would happen. Then look at all the cities declaring bankruptcy because they can't afford the pension liabilities because the unions crafted themselves such sweet deals that they're impossible to fund.
Did you read the parent comment that said doctors want us to die? Hospitals have their issues, but I mention them only because you're likely to find doctors there.
If the engineering work was done in any country other than the US, they probably didn't break any laws. Whoever was involved with certifying the vehicles as being compliant would probably be the criminal, but you'd have to wonder if they were even aware of this "feature" in those vehicles.
I'd like to see a list of names of the people responsible for this FDA provision that enables this asswipe to control distribution. It's interesting that none of the linked articles mention how that got passed.
Massachusetts already had a very high percentage of its population insured, unlike the whole of the nation. There wasn't much consternation about it because it didn't rely heavily on one group to pay or subsidize the insurance of another group. Even so, it hit hard times when the economy took a nose-dive and the Obama administration had to bail it out, lest it be used against passing the ACA. Romneycare also failed to reduce ER visits as promised, ER visitation actually increased. It also led to difficulty for new patients trying to find primary care doctors and led to longer wait times for a good number of patients. Had the media not been in the tank, they could have brought all of this to light. I wonder how much of this was covered up by Deval Patrick while he was governor.
Yea. I'm cynical, but.. it is easier to sit on the couch and come up with reasons not to do any physical activity. It's too bad too, because the select few that manage to get past that end up having a great time. It's one of those chicken and egg things.
I did have a pretty spectacular crash years ago that almost ended me, but I was back riding in less than two weeks. Wasn't easy, but like you said.. there are things you have to get past in order to a live a life that was worth living. If you give up all the things you enjoy, what's the point?
I think we're mostly saying the same thing? The AC I replied to seem to be saying the opposite, that racers are highly trained and would be less likely to be harmed because of that. Commuting, recreational riding, and competition are all different and not all that comparable to each other. Racing is a higher risk since it involves a bit of risk taking to win, and you're pushing everything to the limit. The other two may not be as safe as travel by motor vehicle, but they're not dangerous. Of course a vehicle with a safety cage, crumple zones, air bags, seatbelts and an extra set of wheels will be safer. Cyclists have two wheels, some LEDs, and a styrofoam cup on their heads.
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I didn't post the article.
Yes, you can group people by any number of different characteristics that really have no relevance to the workplace.
If we want to treat people as equals, perhaps we shouldn't think of each other as belonging to arbitrary groups.
I didn't even mention corporations, that was someone else. I was just making an observation that our standard of living and what we deem as essential possessions and such have changed considerably since the era of the space race. America isn't poorer than it was before, the funding could be had.. but I don't think most folks would want to make any sacrifices in order to free up money to fund truly large space programs.
Yes, if it was cheaper, it'd be more likely to happen. Also true that if there was revenue to be had either through tourism, mining, or who knows what.. that could also make it happen. Virgin and SpaceX might get there. Who knows.
That depends on what you view our role to be in this existence. You can send a robot up a mountain too, but climbers generally prefer to climb it themselves. I'm not in favor of spending a fortune on human space travel right now, but at the same time.. can you imagine our existence if we went with the lowest cost option for everything in life?
You're reading ideology into a non-ideological comment. I greatly prefer that people retain as much of their income as possible. I would love it if we could choose parts of the government to fund voluntarily rather than the funds be removed from our pay before it ever hits our checking accounts. I don't ever expect to see that happen, but it could create a government that is actually "for the people".
The point I was trying to make is that a lot of great things were done during the race to the moon, but the average family didn't have the kind of possessions that we take for granted today. If everyone made do with what they had during that time period, there would be money to fund a more aggressive space program.
The only thing I can say about the moon is that with the technology we have today compared to what we had back then, I would think we'd be able to get people on the moon for a heck of a lot less money. Why bother? I have no idea. Maybe as a stepping stone to Mars. Why go to Mars? No idea there either, but then again, why do so many people go mountain climbing?
That would learn them.
Another way of looking at it is that money that could have gone to a space program is now in the homes in the form of smartphones, cutting edge PCs, home entertainment systems, etc. No one wants to sacrifice for a greater good if it means not getting the latest new iPhone.
How is that possible? We need to know that in the cases of contaminated food.
And bad hair. Trump 2016!
I can tell you've never been to a town meeting. Everyone complains about the various city employee unions. In my city, the teacher's union stalled on contract negotiations until the students were back in school, then threatened to strike if their demands weren't met. Which was great since teachers aren't allowed to strike because it was obvious to lawmakers that this scenario would happen. Then look at all the cities declaring bankruptcy because they can't afford the pension liabilities because the unions crafted themselves such sweet deals that they're impossible to fund.
I've never seen a home with a sign out front that says "this is a gun free home."
I wonder why that is.
We could kick it up a notch and offer an app blocker for unethical apps.
What are you, left handed or something?
Did you read the parent comment that said doctors want us to die? Hospitals have their issues, but I mention them only because you're likely to find doctors there.
If the engineering work was done in any country other than the US, they probably didn't break any laws. Whoever was involved with certifying the vehicles as being compliant would probably be the criminal, but you'd have to wonder if they were even aware of this "feature" in those vehicles.
Doctors want us to die? Interesting. That must be why so many people die at hospitals.
That would be a first for a federal three letter agency.
Regardless, this thing stinks. If it's the legislature, they need to fix this and be held to account. If it's a misinterpretation by the FDA, same.
This has nothing to do with patents.
I'd like to see a list of names of the people responsible for this FDA provision that enables this asswipe to control distribution. It's interesting that none of the linked articles mention how that got passed.
Gas is under $2/gal here in the northeastern US.
Massachusetts already had a very high percentage of its population insured, unlike the whole of the nation. There wasn't much consternation about it because it didn't rely heavily on one group to pay or subsidize the insurance of another group. Even so, it hit hard times when the economy took a nose-dive and the Obama administration had to bail it out, lest it be used against passing the ACA. Romneycare also failed to reduce ER visits as promised, ER visitation actually increased. It also led to difficulty for new patients trying to find primary care doctors and led to longer wait times for a good number of patients. Had the media not been in the tank, they could have brought all of this to light. I wonder how much of this was covered up by Deval Patrick while he was governor.
Yea. I'm cynical, but.. it is easier to sit on the couch and come up with reasons not to do any physical activity. It's too bad too, because the select few that manage to get past that end up having a great time. It's one of those chicken and egg things.
I did have a pretty spectacular crash years ago that almost ended me, but I was back riding in less than two weeks. Wasn't easy, but like you said.. there are things you have to get past in order to a live a life that was worth living. If you give up all the things you enjoy, what's the point?
I think we're mostly saying the same thing? The AC I replied to seem to be saying the opposite, that racers are highly trained and would be less likely to be harmed because of that. Commuting, recreational riding, and competition are all different and not all that comparable to each other. Racing is a higher risk since it involves a bit of risk taking to win, and you're pushing everything to the limit. The other two may not be as safe as travel by motor vehicle, but they're not dangerous. Of course a vehicle with a safety cage, crumple zones, air bags, seatbelts and an extra set of wheels will be safer. Cyclists have two wheels, some LEDs, and a styrofoam cup on their heads.
That's a sign of a poor manager. The good ones know not to issue that request over email.