An intresting thought... With everything getting computerised and worse.. going onto the Internet even if they were careful to spell out the computer had to be able to talk to other computers a 7-11 self serve slurppe machine set up to automaticly order more surp when it gets low over the Internet could get him in truble and he wouldn't even know he was accessing a computer. He has been out of the loop for so long he may have accessed many networked computers and never even known he came near a computer at all. Would a remote controll qualify as the kind of computer that could get him in truble? What about a portable MP3 player? If a friend let him watch a move vea real video. over the net would that be a violation... It is something to think about
Hehe.. Vote for people [like me] who are against this sort of BS. Lacking someone to vote for run for office... or get someone to run...
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Some people in law enforcment would like to see it become illegal to publish any information on illegal drugs. This addatude comes from people who are desprate to find a way to stop illegl drug use and feal the freedom of speech is getting in the way. However no one is going to give up THAT MUCH freedom for anything.
But so few people understand the Internet they could pass any kind of censorship and the majority wouldn't realise it.
This is why they try to ban stuff on the Internet they'd never ban in printed form. Becouse in printed form they can't get away with it but on the Net it's a whole diffrent story.
Anyway cool article:) Illiad kicks butt You can of course get ahold of him on IRC [he's gona kill me] on Undernet on the #UserFriendly channel. Illiad is like not into the herro worship thing... I rember he was saying something on channel about how people would walk up to him and say "Are you THE Illiad?" and it would make him nervous.
This is good it keeps it from going to his head:) So treat him like you'd treat anyone else on IRC...
In pennence you must do one of the folowng... 1. Break a Windows OEM CD 2. Order and eat a McDonalds super sized meal or equivlent of any fast food place 3. Grow a beard.... 4. drink a 3 letter bottle of cola [hard to find] or 2 2 letters
If you've allready done one of thies then consider penence paid and may the source be with you:)
Microsofts lacing marketting hype with the word "Open" is an appeal to the open source community. Most open source users who use open source operating systems do so becouse: It's open, free, Unix based, or Not Microsoft. In all thies cases Microsoft dose not have a flicker of hope. Windows isn't open, isn't free, is Microsoft and is so diffrent from Unix that it makes Dos look like a Unix wanabe. Microsoft forgets to quickly it's bad name and expects casual open source users to switch to Windows as quickly as casual Mac users did with Windows 95. In short I feel comfortable sitting back and laffing at Microsofts "open" marketting. It shows we are winning:) and some day soon we will all be using MsLinux..... just kidding....
The first intelegent civilisation to receave our galatic spam sends a message back so powerful it causes a planet wide blackout. The spammers assume the strong "!!!NO!!!" means send your salesmen. When they send back the salesmens bleached bones the spammers send there lawyers. The aliens respond by sending there warlords. The warlords find that we killed the spammers the moment they had no lawyers to protect them. We introduce the warlords to the Internet and then we have 2,000 years of peace prosparity and warlord porn.
Times accual choices will not be influenced by this poll. It's just something to see who the public would pick if they could. Chances are the person Time picks will not have even made the top 100. Linus might make it inside the top 100.. Maybe.. There are however far more worthy contributors. On the other hand if he dose make it that will be less for who he is and what he's done than what it all represents. Linus didn't change the world into a world where people all over the world would willingly work together. That world existed. He simply made use of it. Linus represents what we have become and where we are going.
I've seen a counter to the Pathos example and that is "It's about freedom, like free beer". This comment is effective in 3 ways.... It's effective for the same reason calling open source "communist" is effective. However not everyone views communism as a bad thing EVERYONE wants freedom. It's short. Sound bytes carry well. Some people have short attention spans and it just makes life easy when you can make it quick and short. Some people don't take notice unless you say "sex" or "beer".. sex is more effective but "beer" is more politicly correct.
Any time you have an open forum of communication someone [or a lot of someones] will scream fuzzy blue mud about the fuzzy blue mud. Complaining about the complaining is a true irony. Your right people should have cooler heads about this. On the other hand you could talk untill your blue in the face and get nowhere. Thats why we have moderators:) This allows a group of people to demoderate useless complaning and crying down. But allass the complainners out weigh the moderators.
I enjoy a good rant myself.. but thats what a home page is for.....
They could just block the site however whomever it is who accually wants it gone more than likely won't be happy with it being alive and well outsite of China. This seems to be getting to the level of a religous crusade. Just my prospective:) As for a technicly knoladgable reporter... a reporter could a. grab the news agentcys SysAdm, b. Talk with tech savy teenager, c. Contact a Linux user group who was in news recently. Reporters are pritty good at getting information when they really try.
I guess it could be spoofed but it's no easy effort. Douptful someone could do it and then fail to crack the victoms computer.
I've heard of Christan Buddhism. Some xtians get fearful over anything that dosn't come from the Bible. I say xtians becouse I have a lot of respect for real christans.. but thats a diffrent topic:)
If a government is so fearful of one group [however larg] that they'd do this then it won't be long before they let there paranoia distory the government. "paranoia will distory ya" Ok historicly paranoid governments have lasted for a very long time so don't expect this put put an end to the Chinese government any time soon.
Naa not 1984... nooo... Now come let Big Brother brain wash err help you set asside your fears... yes thats it.. come to the ministry of truth and we'll help you... yes we will...
In a realistic vent I wonder what they are affrade of.. is it pure paranoia? Or dose it threaton someone personally [the way one phlosophy threatons members of an oposing phlosophy]
LUnix might work better on a PDA than Linux. However at current date only Linux has been ported to any PDAs.
Porting LUnix should be a trival effort sence the operating system is so small. [it has to be it's made to run on the Commodore 64]
There is a small system dependent libary than needs to be replaced. Do that and recompile with a compatable c compiler [GCC if it compiles binarys for the target PDA] and go:)
No you don't understand.. I want you to prosecute. Making it illegal to uncover a persons idenity would screw up the legal system. I just want the employer to have to finish the process... Start it in cort prove it in cort finish it in cort. Drop the case and it ends there...
It's been argued that open source is dangerous becouse a back door could be added by any random cracker. While true this ignores the fact that such a back door could just as easlly removed where as a closed source counterpart can only be removed by the very person or persons who put it in to start with. If this becomes law the whole argument is trunned on it's head. Not only would it become more likely to happen in closed source than open but it could be company policy. A feature to disable illegal copys. By it's very nature illegal copys of open source do not exist making such a feature meaningless.
I guess thats what you get when you rely on Yahoo to keep your identity a secret. The sadest part of the story is when an employer filed a lawsute just to discover who of there employees were talking trash about them. Once they have the identitys they can use that information any way they like.
Maybe it should be against the law to apply information learned in this way outside of the legal action it was origianly ment to be applyed to.
Quick summery of comments [pays to read before posting] It's a hardware thing. Accually thats a good thing [tm] software solutions cost in CPU time.
Remember the origianl Amigas? Everything done in coprocesors. Let the Amiga do things much more powerful PC couldn't.
Anyway it's allwase wise to make shure there is sorce code to ask for. As with this case there is no code and then there is the BeOs/Linux hybred that apparently dosn't even use Linux.
Just becouse the managers ordering the computers know what Linux is dosn't mean they know what will happen on a Linux box with 8 Xenon IIIs. My guess is SGI found a way to make it work but don't count out the "They'll buy it anyway" factor. It's not SGIs style to market to the idiot quotent but you never know.
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An intresting thought... With everything getting computerised and worse.. going onto the Internet even if they were careful to spell out the computer had to be able to talk to other computers a 7-11 self serve slurppe machine set up to automaticly order more surp when it gets low over the Internet could get him in truble and he wouldn't even know he was accessing a computer.
He has been out of the loop for so long he may have accessed many networked computers and never even known he came near a computer at all.
Would a remote controll qualify as the kind of computer that could get him in truble?
What about a portable MP3 player?
If a friend let him watch a move vea real video. over the net would that be a violation...
It is something to think about
Very unlikely....
I just don't see anyone wanting this enough to do that.
"So the question is, what do we do about it?"
Hehe.. Vote for people [like me] who are against this sort of BS.
Lacking someone to vote for run for office... or get someone to run...
Some people in law enforcment would like to see it become illegal to publish any information on illegal drugs.
This addatude comes from people who are desprate to find a way to stop illegl drug use and feal the freedom of speech is getting in the way.
However no one is going to give up THAT MUCH freedom for anything.
But so few people understand the Internet they could pass any kind of censorship and the majority wouldn't realise it.
This is why they try to ban stuff on the Internet they'd never ban in printed form. Becouse in printed form they can't get away with it but on the Net it's a whole diffrent story.
Anyway cool article :) Illiad kicks butt
:)
You can of course get ahold of him on IRC [he's gona kill me] on Undernet on the #UserFriendly channel.
Illiad is like not into the herro worship thing...
I rember he was saying something on channel about how people would walk up to him and say "Are you THE Illiad?" and it would make him nervous.
This is good it keeps it from going to his head
So treat him like you'd treat anyone else on IRC...
In pennence you must do one of the folowng...
:)
1. Break a Windows OEM CD
2. Order and eat a McDonalds super sized meal or equivlent of any fast food place
3. Grow a beard....
4. drink a 3 letter bottle of cola [hard to find] or 2 2 letters
If you've allready done one of thies then consider penence paid and may the source be with you
My english teacher liked to point out spelling errors in newspapers.
BTW I wasn't a very good student....
It's the ultimate power light :)
Microsofts lacing marketting hype with the word "Open" is an appeal to the open source community. :) and some day soon we will all be using MsLinux..... just kidding....
Most open source users who use open source operating systems do so becouse: It's open, free, Unix based, or Not Microsoft.
In all thies cases Microsoft dose not have a flicker of hope.
Windows isn't open, isn't free, is Microsoft and is so diffrent from Unix that it makes Dos look like a Unix wanabe.
Microsoft forgets to quickly it's bad name and expects casual open source users to switch to Windows as quickly as casual Mac users did with Windows 95.
In short I feel comfortable sitting back and laffing at Microsofts "open" marketting. It shows we are winning
I can't use realplayer as it dosn't like my soundcard as a result downloading the mp3 is my only hope.
Sadly I can't. The server dosn't respond. It acts like it's down.
What are the chances of setting up some mirrors?
How much are you charging :)
The first intelegent civilisation to receave our galatic spam sends a message back so powerful it causes a planet wide blackout.
The spammers assume the strong "!!!NO!!!" means send your salesmen. When they send back the salesmens bleached bones the spammers send there lawyers.
The aliens respond by sending there warlords. The warlords find that we killed the spammers the moment they had no lawyers to protect them.
We introduce the warlords to the Internet and then we have 2,000 years of peace prosparity and warlord porn.
Times accual choices will not be influenced by this poll. It's just something to see who the public would pick if they could.
Chances are the person Time picks will not have even made the top 100.
Linus might make it inside the top 100.. Maybe..
There are however far more worthy contributors.
On the other hand if he dose make it that will be less for who he is and what he's done than what it all represents.
Linus didn't change the world into a world where people all over the world would willingly work together. That world existed. He simply made use of it.
Linus represents what we have become and where we are going.
I've seen a counter to the Pathos example and that is "It's about freedom, like free beer".
This comment is effective in 3 ways....
It's effective for the same reason calling open source "communist" is effective. However not everyone views communism as a bad thing EVERYONE wants freedom.
It's short. Sound bytes carry well. Some people have short attention spans and it just makes life easy when you can make it quick and short.
Some people don't take notice unless you say "sex" or "beer".. sex is more effective but "beer" is more politicly correct.
Any time you have an open forum of communication someone [or a lot of someones] will scream fuzzy blue mud about the fuzzy blue mud. :) This allows a group of people to demoderate useless complaning and crying down.
Complaining about the complaining is a true irony.
Your right people should have cooler heads about this. On the other hand you could talk untill your blue in the face and get nowhere.
Thats why we have moderators
But allass the complainners out weigh the moderators.
I enjoy a good rant myself.. but thats what a home page is for.....
They could just block the site however whomever it is who accually wants it gone more than likely won't be happy with it being alive and well outsite of China. :)
This seems to be getting to the level of a religous crusade.
Just my prospective
As for a technicly knoladgable reporter... a reporter could a. grab the news agentcys SysAdm, b. Talk with tech savy teenager, c. Contact a Linux user group who was in news recently.
Reporters are pritty good at getting information when they really try.
I guess it could be spoofed but it's no easy effort. Douptful someone could do it and then fail to crack the victoms computer.
I've heard of Christan Buddhism. :)
Some xtians get fearful over anything that dosn't come from the Bible.
I say xtians becouse I have a lot of respect for real christans.. but thats a diffrent topic
If a government is so fearful of one group [however larg] that they'd do this then it won't be long before they let there paranoia distory the government.
"paranoia will distory ya"
Ok historicly paranoid governments have lasted for a very long time so don't expect this put put an end to the Chinese government any time soon.
Naa not 1984... nooo...
Now come let Big Brother brain wash err help you set asside your fears... yes thats it.. come to the ministry of truth and we'll help you... yes we will...
In a realistic vent I wonder what they are affrade of.. is it pure paranoia? Or dose it threaton someone personally [the way one phlosophy threatons members of an oposing phlosophy]
LUnix might work better on a PDA than Linux.
:)
However at current date only Linux has been ported to any PDAs.
Porting LUnix should be a trival effort sence the operating system is so small.
[it has to be it's made to run on the Commodore 64]
There is a small system dependent libary than needs to be replaced. Do that and recompile with a compatable c compiler [GCC if it compiles binarys for the target PDA] and go
No you don't understand.. I want you to prosecute.
Making it illegal to uncover a persons idenity would screw up the legal system.
I just want the employer to have to finish the process...
Start it in cort prove it in cort finish it in cort. Drop the case and it ends there...
It's been argued that open source is dangerous becouse a back door could be added by any random cracker.
While true this ignores the fact that such a back door could just as easlly removed where as a closed source counterpart can only be removed by the very person or persons who put it in to start with.
If this becomes law the whole argument is trunned on it's head. Not only would it become more likely to happen in closed source than open but it could be company policy. A feature to disable illegal copys. By it's very nature illegal copys of open source do not exist making such a feature meaningless.
I guess thats what you get when you rely on Yahoo to keep your identity a secret.
The sadest part of the story is when an employer filed a lawsute just to discover who of there employees were talking trash about them.
Once they have the identitys they can use that information any way they like.
Maybe it should be against the law to apply information learned in this way outside of the legal action it was origianly ment to be applyed to.
Quick summery of comments [pays to read before posting]
It's a hardware thing. Accually thats a good thing [tm] software solutions cost in CPU time.
Remember the origianl Amigas? Everything done in coprocesors. Let the Amiga do things much more powerful PC couldn't.
Anyway it's allwase wise to make shure there is sorce code to ask for. As with this case there is no code and then there is the BeOs/Linux hybred that apparently dosn't even use Linux.
It could be just supply and demand...
Just becouse the managers ordering the computers know what Linux is dosn't mean they know what will happen on a Linux box with 8 Xenon IIIs.
My guess is SGI found a way to make it work but don't count out the "They'll buy it anyway" factor. It's not SGIs style to market to the idiot quotent but you never know.