This is true, however the default configuration will not be changed for most users so it is justifiable to analyze the security "out of the box" as opposed to "with tweaked by an expert".
It's a little gadgety, but it's still quite impressive.
The customizable home page is well done, with a way to customize the columns that Google does not have (and I've oft wished they did), and the ability to add multiple pages which I could easily find a use for.
The "local" maps are generally well implemented. They show significantly more map than Google maps and the 'zoom' effect keeps you from losing your place easily when switching zoom levels... sure you have to wait for it to load the first time, but so what?
The zoom on "images" is nice too, though there are some quirks when you actually try to load a page that an image is on that I don't care for, but whatever, it's all new and I'm sure they'll fix the bugs in a relatively intelligent way.
Any loading problems people have had probably relate to it being new and slashdotted. I'm not having any issues with it at the moment (using a gecko-based browser on Linux).
Whatever, it's very nice. Half the complaints about it would probably magically disappear if it was a Google product anyways.
As much as I hate to say it (and hate to see it), Microsoft is making some big moves on the web and with Vista and they're going to have a pretty damn nice suite of tools available when Vista actually launches. Micosoft is doing a pretty good job of keeping Apple and Google from conquering their respective domains.
Now, if Apple would just buy Google (or visa-versa, or merge, or something) then *that* would up the ante quite a bit.
It doesn't necessarily "do" anything differently, but unless someone whips up a suite of applications to support authoring dynamic and interactive content with SVG and canvas, it doesn't really matter what they do (not in the "widespread adoptance" sense anyways).
Zope3 provides a lot of what Plone and CMF added to Zope2, so there is less of a need for Plone in Zope3. There are a lot of questions as to weather or not Plone will have a place in Zope3 at all (depending on who you ask). Some of the core Plone developers think it does, and they will be slowly moving things to Zope3 (probably over the next year) by backporting some of the new Zope3 features to Zope2 via a Zope2 product called Five.
Glossary:
Zope2
Application Server
CMF
Content Management Framework for Zope2 (all the tools developers need to write a content management system.
Plone
Content Management System built on top of CMF. Basically a CMF with a solid UI.
BTW: it is generally safe to assume that a framework is something that is made for developers/programmers, and a system is something for end-users.
Here is what happens to your data on publicknowledge.org:
Address information is used to query the US Post Office's Web API in order to determine your full 9 digit zip code (yes it would be easier if we just asked for this information, but most people don't know their 9 digit zip code).
The 9 digit zip information is used to query the Project Vote-Smart database (which they have graciously provided to us) in order to determine who your representatives are.
Your list of representatives is compared to the list of representatives that are set to receive the 'action' which in this case is the phone call , though various other methods are supported by the system, such as sending faxes.
The union of your representatives and the representatives for the 'action' is used for the following page, which gives you a list of those representatives and their contact information. In other 'action' formats (such as the fax) the representative information is used to generate a form letter and send it to the representatives office.
None of your information is stored beyond that point. For more information you can read the Public Knowledge Privacy Policy linked at the foot of every page on the site.
The whole system is currently referred to as the Public Action Manager but will be properly released under the name Athens. All the code is Open Source (GPL) and can be found Subversion repository.
All that being said, I have no clue what problem you are experiencing but I have filed it as a bug regardless. I'm sorry that you think it is intentional and not a bug in the page or Mozilla itself.
Until I discovered that the so called Public Knowledge site had taken over Mozilla, and disabled my menu's for normal browser operations completely.
I wrote the software in question and there is no "menu disabling" code in there. The site has been live for over a year now and we have had no reports of your problem, perhaps you could be more specific about what is happening and where?
Feel free to message me with any additional information.
Why am I not hearing about Red Hat, Mandrake, Suse, FSF, Debian, GNU and everyone else who has any sort of legal entity suing the pants off of SCO for slander? SCO has been going around blasting the pants off of Linux for months without any evidence to back it up...do we really have to wait for the original suit to goto court before we do anything? Can't someone shut them up? It's the worst smear campaign I've ever seen...
Cant you just set your webserber to listen on a diffrent port?
I think the general Net users are smart enough to toss in a:81 to access a personal web page if you tell them to.
I dont think anyone would "let" any worm into thier system on a voluntary basis, but if you read the story I believe it will tell you that the Cheese worm enters via a port that the 1ion worm leaves open. So, if you get the Cheese worm you have already been attacked and most likely didnt know about it.
The fact is, if you are security concious and have all the latest patches and follow the proper regime for maintaining your system, it is fairly unlikely that your system will ever get compromised......and if you "let" any worm into your system you should be shot without any hesitation.....though in this case if the Cheese worm _can_ get into your system it seams to mean that you have already been attacked and your sysem is not trustable...so what harm could it do?
# Tom von S.
# -------------
# "Nuclear weapons can destroy all life on earth,
Hey, Slashdot, perhaps you will remember some of the articles youve had in the past about headlines that make wild claims and then give the special circumstances in the fine print? Well, what the fuck are you doing now? The main point of the article about e-gold was NOT the credit card fraud, the owner even states that he stopped accpeting credit cards because of the fraud problem, the point was "why did the secret service raid e-gold?".
so...stop tossing around crap
# Tom von S.
# -------------
# "Nuclear weapons can destroy all life on earth,
Slashdot Mirror
This is true, however the default configuration will not be changed for most users so it is justifiable to analyze the security "out of the box" as opposed to "with tweaked by an expert".
Would you prefer if there were obfuscated controls and banner ads?
Do you want to go ahead and quickly hack up a page like this:
http://finance.google.com/finance?cid=16701613
?
Google thrives on the simple and powerful interfaces they create. It's half of what got them where they are today.
It's a little gadgety, but it's still quite impressive.
The customizable home page is well done, with a way to customize the columns that Google does not have (and I've oft wished they did), and the ability to add multiple pages which I could easily find a use for.
The "local" maps are generally well implemented. They show significantly more map than Google maps and the 'zoom' effect keeps you from losing your place easily when switching zoom levels... sure you have to wait for it to load the first time, but so what?
The zoom on "images" is nice too, though there are some quirks when you actually try to load a page that an image is on that I don't care for, but whatever, it's all new and I'm sure they'll fix the bugs in a relatively intelligent way.
Any loading problems people have had probably relate to it being new and slashdotted. I'm not having any issues with it at the moment (using a gecko-based browser on Linux).
Whatever, it's very nice. Half the complaints about it would probably magically disappear if it was a Google product anyways.
As much as I hate to say it (and hate to see it), Microsoft is making some big moves on the web and with Vista and they're going to have a pretty damn nice suite of tools available when Vista actually launches. Micosoft is doing a pretty good job of keeping Apple and Google from conquering their respective domains.
Now, if Apple would just buy Google (or visa-versa, or merge, or something) then *that* would up the ante quite a bit.
It doesn't necessarily "do" anything differently, but unless someone whips up a suite of applications to support authoring dynamic and interactive content with SVG and canvas, it doesn't really matter what they do (not in the "widespread adoptance" sense anyways).
So someone finally made a great distro out of Debian and it's a bad thing?
I agree, that's just embarassing.
Ooh, watch, this will be fun...
Zope3 provides a lot of what Plone and CMF added to Zope2, so there is less of a need for Plone in Zope3. There are a lot of questions as to weather or not Plone will have a place in Zope3 at all (depending on who you ask). Some of the core Plone developers think it does, and they will be slowly moving things to Zope3 (probably over the next year) by backporting some of the new Zope3 features to Zope2 via a Zope2 product called Five.
Glossary:
Zope2
Application Server
CMF
Content Management Framework for Zope2 (all the tools developers need to write a content management system.
Plone
Content Management System built on top of CMF. Basically a CMF with a solid UI.
BTW: it is generally safe to assume that a framework is something that is made for developers/programmers, and a system is something for end-users.
Does trillian offer anything Gaim doesn't?
*I* never suggested you were a kook :)
Here is what happens to your data on publicknowledge.org:
None of your information is stored beyond that point. For more information you can read the Public Knowledge Privacy Policy linked at the foot of every page on the site.
The whole system is currently referred to as the Public Action Manager but will be properly released under the name Athens. All the code is Open Source (GPL) and can be found Subversion repository.
All that being said, I have no clue what problem you are experiencing but I have filed it as a bug regardless. I'm sorry that you think it is intentional and not a bug in the page or Mozilla itself.
Feel free to message me with any additional information.
Regards,
Tom
IANAL:
Why am I not hearing about Red Hat, Mandrake, Suse, FSF, Debian, GNU and everyone else who has any sort of legal entity suing the pants off of SCO for slander? SCO has been going around blasting the pants off of Linux for months without any evidence to back it up...do we really have to wait for the original suit to goto court before we do anything? Can't someone shut them up? It's the worst smear campaign I've ever seen...
No shit.
Cant you just set your webserber to listen on a diffrent port? I think the general Net users are smart enough to toss in a :81 to access a personal web page if you tell them to.
I dont think anyone would "let" any worm into thier system on a voluntary basis, but if you read the story I believe it will tell you that the Cheese worm enters via a port that the 1ion worm leaves open. So, if you get the Cheese worm you have already been attacked and most likely didnt know about it.
The fact is, if you are security concious and have all the latest patches and follow the proper regime for maintaining your system, it is fairly unlikely that your system will ever get compromised......and if you "let" any worm into your system you should be shot without any hesitation.....though in this case if the Cheese worm _can_ get into your system it seams to mean that you have already been attacked and your sysem is not trustable...so what harm could it do?
# Tom von S.
# -------------
# "Nuclear weapons can destroy all life on earth,
no,
features == bugs
but
bugs != features
as
bugs == idiocy
quite often
# Tom von S.
# -------------
# "Nuclear weapons can destroy all life on earth,
maybe a good "Goodbye Cruel World" damn...shoulda posted AC
# Tom von S.
# -------------
# "Nuclear weapons can destroy all life on earth,
Hey, Slashdot, perhaps you will remember some of the articles youve had in the past about headlines that make wild claims and then give the special circumstances in the fine print? Well, what the fuck are you doing now? The main point of the article about e-gold was NOT the credit card fraud, the owner even states that he stopped accpeting credit cards because of the fraud problem, the point was "why did the secret service raid e-gold?".
so...stop tossing around crap
# Tom von S.
# -------------
# "Nuclear weapons can destroy all life on earth,
Depression in and of itself cannot kill you.
True, but by the same logic neither can AIDS.
(please, no hasty responses to this)
# Tom von S.
# -------------
# "Nuclear weapons can destroy all life on earth,