All of the so called "window managers" for Win32 are nasty hacks; they install a global handler for WM_NC* messages and handle them before the normal code sees them. This breaks other apps that customize their titlebar.
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let me expand what you said a little bit. QT themes are faster than GTK (what you meant, even if you don't know it) "Pixmap" themes. GTK theme engines work in the same way as KDE themes, and are equally fast. There is nothing stopping anyone from writing a QT pixmap theme like the one GTK has, but it would be equally slow (Someone may very well have written it by now). The reason most GTK themes are Pixmap themes is because its several orders of magnitude easier to make than an engine.
Now that the facts are out of the way, stop spreading FUD.
I suspect that all these people whining about memory usage could use a quick refresher in how memory works in UNIX. This goes for the people who say "X SUCKS because it uses 25 megs of RAM!" when they have a 16 meg TNT card in their computer, too. Newsflash #1: the X server mmaps the video buffer into its address space! (For the less clueful out there, this means subtract your video ram from the memory usage reported by the X server). Newsflash #2: Libraries are also mmaped into the address space! (So is the executable for that matter).
Ok, so all these libraries are getting counted multiple times, they still all add up, you say? UNIX demand pages executables and libraries into memory, so big, featureful libraries are good, since you only pay for the parts you use! (well, in 4kb chunks on intel, but you can't have everything).
This should all be put in a "troll-FAQ" somewhere; I'm tired of seeing the same stupid trolls over and over again. Yes, X, GNOME, and KDE all have flaws, some of them large, but NONE are insurmountable, and the progress in all these areas (Have you seen XFree 3.9 yet?) has been amazingly rapid.
The spelling and diction remind me of "Gerald Holmes" The difference, of couse, being that the author of "Gerald Holmes" is not a trolling fool. Have a nice day.
So we should stop trying to make cars safer? Obviously there are risks in anything, but if we can control them, we should take steps to reduce them. Obviously, there are some risks we have no control over. Computer security is not one of them.
Window managers run as the user, and do not listen over the network. As such, a buffer overrun in a window manager would not gain an attacker anything. X on the other hand, runs as root (and by default listens on port 6000). block port 6000 at the firewall, and tunnel X through ssh. If you're hyper-paranoid, boot off a write protected floppy, and run tripwire (binary and database) on a burned CDROM. make sure that tripwire is statically linked! Might want to put ssh on that CD too.
getadmin. the eEye IIS buffer overrun. the IIS ftp server buffer overrun. etc. All clearly cases of misconfiguration; The admin configured the machine with NT and not a secure OS.
"Any decent 4ack should be..." -- 4ack translates to "Aack" I suspect you mean "h4ck." Someone please kill me, I just picked a nit with someone's 31337-sp33k!
All the effects that 3DFX's marketing dept has renamed the "T-Buffer" have been around (IN OPENGL!!) for years. At least the BitBoys call it by its proper name, which is an accumulation buffer, instead of letting the marketing department rename it, complete with lame story about the chief engineer. I suppose pandering to idiots sells 3D hardware.
I'm gonna pick one more nit. CD audio is in fact 176400 BYTES/sec, not 176. its 44100 samples per second times 4 bytes per sample (16bits, 2 channels). Also, this comes out to 1411200 BITS/sec. I don't know much about DVD, but I doubt the bitrates are comparable, since DVDs usually hold compressed data, whereas CDs are uncompressed.
This GPV drivel is almost as annoying as that "Gnulix" crap. Fortunatly, the Gnulix lamers appeared to have died/procured a clue. I wonder how long it'll take before the GPV folk do likewise?
You missed his point totally. Its predatory pricing when Intel/Burger Heaven are taking a loss in the short term, knowing that since they have more cash on hand, they can run everyone else out of business. Once all the competition is taken care of, prices begin to rise. AKA dumping.
Go look at them again. The number of polygons onscreen in some of those shots are orders of magnitude better than anything the q3 engine can do on today's PCs. q3 is an excellent engine, but its hamstrung by the hardware it runs on. Even the biggest, baddest ass PIII with a TNT2 can't come close to an Infinite Reality2.
Its been going around on the hotline servers and IRC for over 2 months now, that I know of. Lots of people have seen it a while ago, in its precut form. Of course, I don't promote pirating movies, but its something to be aware of.
Before soundcards were reasonably priced ($150 for a SB1.0), I hooked the eight data pins from my parallel port up to a cheap 8 bit dac (forgot the part #) and even powered it off the port! No other parts needed, and I played Wolf3D with it, since it ended up being compatitble with the Disney Sound System! They charged $50 for the DSS, and it cost me about $3 for the DAC. One of the mod players supported it too, but its name escapes me. Homebrew hardware is always the most fun.
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according to the /. uptime meter, its been up for 4 and a half days. So the last outage was obviously due to something other than the OS.
Perhaps if your text is 3 or 4 pages long, but using an intellimouse to scroll down 90 pages would, in a word, SUCK.
All of the so called "window managers" for Win32 are nasty hacks; they install a global handler for WM_NC* messages and handle them before the normal code sees them. This breaks other apps that customize their titlebar.
let me expand what you said a little bit. QT themes are faster than GTK (what you meant, even if you don't know it) "Pixmap" themes. GTK theme engines work in the same way as KDE themes, and are equally fast. There is nothing stopping anyone from writing a QT pixmap theme like the one GTK has, but it would be equally slow (Someone may very well have written it by now). The reason most GTK themes are Pixmap themes is because its several orders of magnitude easier to make than an engine.
Now that the facts are out of the way, stop spreading FUD.
I suspect that all these people whining about memory usage could use a quick refresher in how memory works in UNIX. This goes for the people who say "X SUCKS because it uses 25 megs of RAM!" when they have a 16 meg TNT card in their computer, too. Newsflash #1: the X server mmaps the video buffer into its address space! (For the less clueful out there, this means subtract your video ram from the memory usage reported by the X server). Newsflash #2: Libraries are also mmaped into the address space! (So is the executable for that matter).
Ok, so all these libraries are getting counted multiple times, they still all add up, you say? UNIX demand pages executables and libraries into memory, so big, featureful libraries are good, since you only pay for the parts you use! (well, in 4kb chunks on intel, but you can't have everything).
This should all be put in a "troll-FAQ" somewhere; I'm tired of seeing the same stupid trolls over and over again. Yes, X, GNOME, and KDE all have flaws, some of them large, but NONE are insurmountable, and the progress in all these areas (Have you seen XFree 3.9 yet?) has been amazingly rapid.
Which is why any secure system uses Kerberos, or MD5 hashes. The existance of shadowed password files speaks greatly about the security of crypt.
The spelling and diction remind me of "Gerald Holmes" The difference, of couse, being that the author of "Gerald Holmes" is not a trolling fool. Have a nice day.
So we should stop trying to make cars safer? Obviously there are risks in anything, but if we can control them, we should take steps to reduce them. Obviously, there are some risks we have no control over. Computer security is not one of them.
Window managers run as the user, and do not listen over the network. As such, a buffer overrun in a window manager would not gain an attacker anything. X on the other hand, runs as root (and by default listens on port 6000). block port 6000 at the firewall, and tunnel X through ssh. If you're hyper-paranoid, boot off a write protected floppy, and run tripwire (binary and database) on a burned CDROM. make sure that tripwire is statically linked! Might want to put ssh on that CD too.
getadmin. the eEye IIS buffer overrun. the IIS ftp server buffer overrun. etc. All clearly cases of misconfiguration; The admin configured the machine with NT and not a secure OS.
add a new device, compile a module, insmod said module. no downtime needed.
"Any decent 4ack should be..." -- 4ack translates to "Aack" I suspect you mean "h4ck." Someone please kill me, I just picked a nit with someone's 31337-sp33k!
All the effects that 3DFX's marketing dept has renamed the "T-Buffer" have been around (IN OPENGL!!) for years. At least the BitBoys call it by its proper name, which is an accumulation buffer, instead of letting the marketing department rename it, complete with lame story about the chief engineer. I suppose pandering to idiots sells 3D hardware.
I'm gonna pick one more nit. CD audio is in fact 176400 BYTES/sec, not 176. its 44100 samples per second times 4 bytes per sample (16bits, 2 channels). Also, this comes out to 1411200 BITS/sec. I don't know much about DVD, but I doubt the bitrates are comparable, since DVDs usually hold compressed data, whereas CDs are uncompressed.
How'd you do that? The moderation system always removes the dropbox from comments I'd already scored.
"elite" has become an insult lately. I suggest "31337" as a replacement. *grin*
This GPV drivel is almost as annoying as that "Gnulix" crap. Fortunatly, the Gnulix lamers appeared to have died/procured a clue. I wonder how long it'll take before the GPV folk do likewise?
Better go read about how a transistor works before you start posting. Classical physics says nothing about electron "holes"
You need an excuse to do some serious partying?
Ask apple.
You missed his point totally. Its predatory pricing when Intel/Burger Heaven are taking a loss in the short term, knowing that since they have more cash on hand, they can run everyone else out of business. Once all the competition is taken care of, prices begin to rise. AKA dumping.
Go look at them again. The number of polygons onscreen in some of those shots are orders of magnitude better than anything the q3 engine can do on today's PCs. q3 is an excellent engine, but its hamstrung by the hardware it runs on. Even the biggest, baddest ass PIII with a TNT2 can't come close to an Infinite Reality2.
Its been going around on the hotline servers and IRC for over 2 months now, that I know of. Lots of people have seen it a while ago, in its precut form. Of course, I don't promote pirating movies, but its something to be aware of.
I always thought he was an AI, running on a old C64 in rob's basement, bent on world domination!
Before soundcards were reasonably priced ($150 for a SB1.0), I hooked the eight data pins from my parallel port up to a cheap 8 bit dac (forgot the part #) and even powered it off the port! No other parts needed, and I played Wolf3D with it, since it ended up being compatitble with the Disney Sound System! They charged $50 for the DSS, and it cost me about $3 for the DAC. One of the mod players supported it too, but its name escapes me. Homebrew hardware is always the most fun.